Arizona Opening Line: State -14.5

[TrapGame]

San Diego State is a bad team. Their defense was very weak up front.

[Commercecomet24]

Arizona has a legit qb but a lot of question marks every where else and as you said SDSU absolutely sucks. Az will struggle getting anything going against our defense.

[Kingbarkus]

Looking at one of their fan forums last night, they thought it was going to be anywhere from -3 to -6. Lol. It may end up being a sellout.

[msstate7]

I think that's a solid line...
42-28 state

[KOdawg1]

I'll take a two touchdown win on the road after midnight our time zone.

[msstate7]

I'll take a two touchdown win on the road after midnight our time zone.

Absolutely.

[Commercecomet24]

I think we'll put up 50+ against az. Their defense is really really slow and we'll also be able to get more rush yards against them.

[TrapGame]

I think we'll put up 50+ against az. Their defense is really really slow and we'll also be able to get more rush yards against them.

SDS's QB was missing wide open dudes that Will won't.

[WhiskeyPirate]

Jaden Delaura was recruited by Leach out of Hawaii. He?s athletic, will take off and run and is an explosive player. He also tends to take chances and is not really a typical air raid q b, doesn?t sit in the pocket and methodically read defenses. He also doesn?t do well if he gets hit a lot. I think our defense will give him a lot of trouble but he is a very hot or cold player IMO.

Interesting that line is close to what Vegas gave for Memphis 16. The over is 61.5.

Arizona is an entirely different team with 60% roster turnover and transfers. Their DC is a pac 12 guy who is familiar with The air raid. They don?t blitz much.

I can?t see them running the ball well against us.

[Commercecomet24]

SDS's QB was missing wide open dudes that Will won't.

Yep.

[Commercecomet24]

Jaden Delaura was recruited by Leach out of Hawaii. He?s athletic, will take off and run and is an explosive player. He also tends to take chances and is not really a typical air raid q b, doesn?t sit in the pocket and methodically read defenses. He also doesn?t do well if he gets hit a lot. I think our defense will give him a lot of trouble but he is a very hot or cold player IMO.

Interesting that line is close to what Vegas gave for Memphis 16. The over is 61.5.

Arizona is an entirely different team with 60% roster turnover and transfers. Their DC is a pac 12 guy who is familiar with The air raid. They don?t blitz much.

I can?t see them running the ball well against us.

Very good assessment on all accounts

[chef dixon]

I'm seeing -7.5

[msstate7]

I'm seeing -7.5

Then I like us with that line

[Tater]

-9.5 on Fanduel

Hammering

[Coach34]

-7 on draftkings-120

[WhiskeyPirate]

I did not wager on The Memphis game, had I thought about it I would have. If this line is seven I’m seriously thinking about going to the sports book.

College football if you pick your spots is doable, nfl is not, at least for me. I stay away from betting nfl games.

They may see this as a trap game with Miss St looking ahead. I don’t think so, we will dominate the O and D lines IMO.

[Bothrops]

San Diego State is a bad team. Their defense was very weak up front.

We'd have a good DL for a PAC school. I hope we can stay against the firewall a little more and not drift off in deep space. That shit scares the hell out of me.

[Jack Lambert]

I went over to one of their message boards and they mostly said they knew nothing about us but they were going to win.

[99jc]

yeah, they are delusional dumbasses and when we skull drag them those rednecks will fade away in the desert heat.

[HancockCountyDog]

I would keep laying the points on this team until it bites you.

I think we are vastly underrated by the betting public.

[R2Dawg]

I went over to one of their message boards and they mostly said they knew nothing about us but they were going to win.

Watching the national media or even the SECN I can see why that is true. Also if they ain't talking about us we must suck. I'd be confident if I were them too. I think they could be in for a rude awakening or someone will be.

[Homedawg]

Where was it 14.5?? That's nowhere to be found.

[memsu06]

Maybe the zero respect and coverage of us in the media will help us with them.

Then it will continue after we win because the game will finish so late.

We're going to need to kick LSU's ass on their own turf to get respect.

[msstate7]

Where was it 14.5?? That's nowhere to be found.

I haven't saw it either. I thought that was a great line bc that's where I had us winning by. Now the line looks too good to be true imo

[Prediction? Pain.]

San Diego State is a bad team. Their defense was very weak up front.

I didn't watch that game but your take sounds on point. From the box score and the postgame recap I read, they got pushed around by an Arizona offense that totally sucked last year.

Still, keep in mind that San Diego State returns 7 starters from a defense that finished Top 16 nationally in scoring D, total D, and FEI defensive efficiency. They lost more on offense but they went 12 - 2 last year with a 24-point win over Arizona in Tuscon and a win over Pac-12 champ Utah. They've also won 10+ games in four of the last seven years. This year may be down for them. But they've been a solid program over the past decade. (Last losing season was '09.) On paper, at least, I'd say a big win over San Diego St. on the road is more impressive than a big win against Memphis at home and that Arizona's transfer QB and new WR1 (a 1,000+ yard guy last year) look solid.

That said, we're a veteran SEC team with a great passer, great skill position players, a solid OL, and good players at every level of the D. I agree we should be favored.

[Lord McBuckethead]

We literally have not been mentioned, as far as I saw, a single time since play began Saturday.

[Homedawg]

I haven't saw it either. I thought that was a great line bc that's where I had us winning by. Now the line looks too good to be true imo

At 14.5 I'd take Arizona. At 7 no thanks.

[Coach34]

Draftkings locked it at -7 so u couldn’t bet it anymore. It’s now -9

I took it big. We will beat them by double digits

[Jack Lambert]

San Diego State is a bad team. Their defense was very weak up front.

I just went to You Tube and watch highlight of their game. SDS's D Line is small.

[BeardoMSU]

I worry the lack of humidity in the air may make Will's throws sail...**

[TrapGame]

I just went to You Tube and watch highlight of their game. SDS's D Line is small.

Yes, SDS has a small D.***

[MetEdDawg]

I have a personal philosophy that I won't bet on any game we are in.

That being said, if the line is -7, that's shockingly low.

I think as some have said we are vastly underrated and now is the time to take advantage of the eye test with Vegas odds across the board. Lot of early lines that look tasty.

[TheLostDawg]

Maybe the zero respect and coverage of us in the media will help us with them.

Then it will continue after we win because the game will finish so late.

We're going to need to kick LSU's ass on their own turf to get respect.

If we do that, they'll just say LSU is needing to adjust to a new coach and they aren't great.
We just need to keep winning.

[TrapGame]

If we do that, they'll just say LSU is needing to adjust to a new coach and they aren't great.
We just need to keep winning.

Correct. If we beat LSU it will be about how LSU is down this year and BK has his work cut out for him. It will never be about how good we are.

[msstate7]

Correct. If we beat LSU it will be about how LSU is down this year and BK has his work cut out for him. It will never be about how good we are.

Isn't everyone here saying lsu is down this year?

[TrapGame]

Isn't everyone here saying lsu is down this year?

Well, yeah. They are. But we have lost to "down" LSU teams before.

[msstate7]

Well, yeah. They are. But we have lost to "down" LSU teams before.

Yes we have, and that's why I'm always nervous about playing them

[Catfish]

A new coach has a huge affect on his players. Sometimes they come together and sometimes they don't. No doubt LSU has some top athletes in their program but they weren't in sync last night. Time will tell but it just kind of feels like they ain't that inspired with their new coach. Hope I'm wrong.

[WinningIsRelentless]

A new coach has a huge affect on his players. Sometimes they come together and sometimes they don't. No doubt LSU has some top athletes in their program but they weren't in sync last night. Time will tell but it just kind of feels like they ain't that inspired with their new coach. Hope I'm wrong.

This is the downfall of the portal. Kelly is going to look like an idiot starting that kid a qb. In his mind he needed the speed on the field because ND never had any. You need speed in the right spots.

[msstate7]

This is the downfall of the portal. Kelly is going to look like an idiot starting that kid a qb. In his mind he needed the speed on the field because ND never had any. You need speed in the right spots.

I don't know that I'd count out Daniels just yet. He had the 4th best QBR in the sec this weekend.

[WhiskeyPirate]

Kelly?s Cincy teams relied on team speed and a running q b. He chose a q b who will struggle to pass, and I think most teams in the sec will try to shut down the run and dare them to pass. He made a mistake.

LSU still has the athletes and their defense could give us real trouble. FSU q b has great mobility, he could throw on the run and buy time. We can?t do that, we have to hope the o line doesn?t allow pressure, but they are going to get through at times with their talent.

Will be a tough game on the road.

[WSOPdawg]

A new coach has a huge affect on his players. Sometimes they come together and sometimes they don't. No doubt LSU has some top athletes in their program but they weren't in sync last night. Time will tell but it just kind of feels like they ain't that inspired with their new coach. Hope I'm wrong.

Looks like their All-American WR Boutte removed all of this LSU content from his social media account last night. He doesn't appear to be wanting to "come together."

Also, there appears to be "chemistry" issues across many teams that brought in a large # of transfers. Watching the OM running back Zach Evans talking about how they "don't need no QB when he'll run for 200 yards, and Bentley will run for 200 yards, and Judkins will run for 200 yards, and Bullock will run for 200 yards." All the while, the non-transfer original players that have bled and sweated with Altmeyer feel he should be starting while the new transfers side with Dart. Gonna be interesting to see how this develops.

[WhiskeyPirate]

LSU lost a big DL to knee injury suffered while celebrating last night too.

[TrapGame]

LSU lost a big DL to knee injury suffered while celebrating last night too.

That was crazy.

We get Crumedy back for LSU. Jett Johnson will play out of his mind. Jordan Davis will step up. Arnett will blitz LSU's QB ten ways from Sunday.

If LSU's defense just rushes 3 most of the night Will will carve them up like a turkey. They'll have to bring some pressure which I hope allows Will to go down field more.

It will be a good game.

[PGHBulldogBG]

Was ND not willing to match what LSU was giving Kelly? I still find that move extremely odd. He had Notre Dame the best they have been in a long time during his tenure there. He had a pretty clear path every year to a NY6 bowl every year at minimum with playoff chances several years due to an easy schedule and no conference affiliation. Sure he would have Clemson here and there but no one else in the ACC is that scary especially with FSU Miami and VT down. Now he is at LSU and has to deal with 6 SEC west teams who have all outperformed almost all the ACC teams and other teams on their schedule in the last few years. It just seems like a really strange move

[WhiskeyPirate]

Was ND not willing to match what LSU was giving Kelly? I still find that move extremely odd. He had Notre Dame the best they have been in a long time during his tenure there. He had a pretty clear path every year to a NY6 bowl every year at minimum with playoff chances several years due to an easy schedule and no conference affiliation. Sure he would have Clemson here and there but no one else in the ACC is that scary especially with FSU Miami and VT down. Now he is at LSU and has to deal with 6 SEC west teams who have all outperformed almost all the ACC teams and other teams on their schedule in the last few years. It just seems like a really strange move

BK is a bit of a mercenary and not your typical ND coach. ND has academic requirements and generally doesn’t openly cheat. LSU has no academic standards, does openly cheat and Louisiana is a gold mine of talent. I can see his logic.

Tiger Droppings blames their current situation on Orgeron being placed on low T treatment and viagra. Their O line is struggling.

[Commercecomet24]

Matt Wyatt nailed it on Twitter:

He said LSU pass play is called "scramble", lol.

[Azcatman]

Thought I would pop in and answer any questions you might have about our team and especially Tucson if you are making the trip down. Last time we saw the Pirate we lit him up for 52 but of course you guys are much different and we have been digging ourselves out of the Sumlin grave. Should be a fun night and hope you all can stay up late and watch

[ZedFedder]

Arizona did secure one of the top portal WRs (Cowing) and a top freshman WR (McMillan). I think State will win, and will win by 2 TDS, but it isn’t the same Arizona squad as last year. Cowing had 150+ yards receiving in their game.

[Azcatman]

Thought I would check in and answer any questions about the cats or Tucson if you are coming down to the gane. Last time we saw the Pirate in Tucson we hung 52 oh him in a win. Far tougher this Saturday as we are still digging out from the Sumlin grave he dug for us.

[BlackSailsDawg]

Kelly?s Cincy teams relied on team speed and a running q b. He chose a q b who will struggle to pass, and I think most teams in the sec will try to shut down the run and dare them to pass. He made a mistake.

LSU still has the athletes and their defense could give us real trouble. FSU q b has great mobility, he could throw on the run and buy time. We can?t do that, we have to hope the o line doesn?t allow pressure, but they are going to get through at times with their talent.

Will be a tough game on the road.


I saw that we had a huge explosive play off a scramble. Will it be a tough game? Yep! but that's the SEC. I just don't see that LSU team handling this team.

[BlackSailsDawg]

That was crazy.

We get Crumedy back for LSU. Jett Johnson will play out of his mind. Jordan Davis will step up. Arnett will blitz LSU's QB ten ways from Sunday.

If LSU's defense just rushes 3 most of the night Will will carve them up like a turkey. They'll have to bring some pressure which I hope allows Will to go down field more.

It will be a good game.


I would think he would be more selective due to the type of scrambler he is. You send too much too often, we better hope he doesn't make it past the first level. He'll average 10 yards a carry! I think he will blitz, but he will make it selectively. Speed... outside CB like with Forbes or Banks

[TrapGame]

I see we are now -8 vs AZ. That -14.5 line disappeared quick. I guess Vegas wanted to get some money in on AZ. I'd bet the line will be -10 by kickoff.

[Coach34]

I see we are now -8 vs AZ. That -14.5 line disappeared quick. I guess Vegas wanted to get some money in on AZ. I'd bet the line will be -10 by kickoff.

Draftkings opened it at 7 and now its up to 10. I got it at 9 last night

[TrapGame]

Draftkings opened it at 7 and now its up to 10. I got it at 9 last night

10 already?! May hit -12 by kickoff. I think we win this game by at least two touchdowns.

[Tater]

10 already?! May hit -12 by kickoff. I think we win this game by at least two touchdowns.

Fanduel had it at -8.5 this morning while I was traveling through Tennessee and I loaded up. It's now -11.5.

Also toyed with a couple of Fanduel's less than normal options because they looked fun. Gives you the option to do a ton of teasers other than the typical +6,+6.5,+7.

Took a -6.5 4 team teaser at +6600
Bama -27 at Texsa
State -15 vs. Zona
UTk -13 at Pitt
Kansas State -14 vs. Mizzou

They also have every number from +3 to +14 point. Feel like that 14 point swing makes it cake in NFL bets. Wonder how many games just naturally end in that 28 point window around the spread.

[Jack Lambert]

yeah, they are delusional dumbasses and when we skull drag them those rednecks will fade away in the desert heat.

My uncle lived there and I visited several times before he died. Tucson is not a red neck city. Now if you get out in the desert you probably on to something. You be surprise how much they think and dress like us. They talk different but pretty much the same values and way of thinking.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Matt Wyatt nailed it on Twitter:

He said LSU pass play is called "scramble", lol.

Jayden Daniels was their ONLY offense last night, and some of their fans were calling for him to be benched

[Commercecomet24]

Jayden Daniels was their ONLY offense last night, and some of their fans were calling for him to be benched

Yes he was and he was literally running for his life the whole night

[Jack Lambert]

That was crazy.

We get Crumedy back for LSU. Jett Johnson will play out of his mind. Jordan Davis will step up. Arnett will blitz LSU's QB ten ways from Sunday.

If LSU's defense just rushes 3 most of the night Will will carve them up like a turkey. They'll have to bring some pressure which I hope allows Will to go down field more.

It will be a good game.

If Jet was my son I would be worried sick for his health. Talk about reckless abandonment. He is not scare to hit or take a hit from anyone.

[Coach34]

Jayden Daniels was their ONLY offense last night, and some of their fans were calling for him to be benched

He missed alot of reads throwing the ball.

[Hot Rock]

Believe this ? rain in forecast in Tucson Saturday. Now, what do you think about it?

[Commercecomet24]

He missed alot of reads throwing the ball.

He's a one read take off guy been like that his whole college career

[Goldendawg]

I thought from reading all the posts here on how much a 2021 1-11 team with a new coach(?) and 50* new portal players had improved, that there was no way we could win a "trap game" with our returning SEC team against mighty AZ. Don't forget the game is also past our bedtime. Didn't we forfeit and all bets are off? Seriously, if we don't win this game, we are in for a very long, losing season. I think not. Hail State!

[TrapGame]

I thought from reading all the posts here on how much a 2021 1-11 team with a new coach(?) and 50* new portal players had improved, that there was no way we could win a "trap game" with our returning SEC team against mighty AZ. Don't forget the game is also past our bedtime. Didn't we forfeit and all bets are off? Seriously, if we don't win this game, we are in for a very long, losing season. I think not. Hail State!

We are vastly more talented than AZ.

As one AZ message board guy wrote: "MSU runs the same defense as San Diego State and we handled them just fine."

If I was in football operations that would be printed out in large font and stuck on every defensive player's locker.

[Quaoarsking]

Believe this ? rain in forecast in Tucson Saturday. Now, what do you think about it?

Not seeing that anywhere

[Tater]

I thought from reading all the posts here on how much a 2021 1-11 team with a new coach(?) and 50* new portal players had improved, that there was no way we could win a "trap game" with our returning SEC team against mighty AZ. Don't forget the game is also past our bedtime. Didn't we forfeit and all bets are off? Seriously, if we don't win this game, we are in for a very long, losing season. I think not. Hail State!

At this point I don't know what to tell you. You've not listened to what people (and I am one of them) have told you.

It's not so much the team that I'm scared of. It's the "PAC-12 After Dark" moniker. Those games just go dumb sometimes. We play this game in any other time slot or if it was against a non-PAC12 team at that time then there's no concerns.

Some things just defy logic, like how Iowa's QB has a 1:8 TD:INT ratio in his last 7 games and Iowa is 5-2. You can't explain it. The PAC 12 After Dark just is. Don't be surprised if we are a victim. And then don't be surprised if it's our only loss prior to Bama. Draw no conclusions from this game.

[WhiskeyPirate]

They have a huge O line, a pretty good rb from FSU and a good receiver. Their q b is streaky and when he’s on he’s good and hard to contain. They could give us some problems if we aren’t focused. Their D is a mystery with a new DC but he’s from the pac 12, and has faced Leach before.

They are a decent team and due to a huge amount of transfers don’t bear any resemblance to last years team.

[Extendedcab]

At this point I don't know what to tell you. You've not listened to what people (and I am one of them) have told you.

It's not so much the team that I'm scared of. It's the "PAC-12 After Dark" moniker. Those games just go dumb sometimes. We play this game in any other time slot or if it was against a non-PAC12 team at that time then there's no concerns.

Some things just defy logic, like how Iowa's QB has a 1:8 TD:INT ratio in his last 7 games and Iowa is 5-2. You can't explain it. The PAC 12 After Dark just is. Don't be surprised if we are a victim. And then don't be surprised if it's our only loss prior to Bama. Draw no conclusions from this game.


LOL, yeah, some sort of voodoo is going to bite us in the rear end! We either play well (we are ready) or we don't (we are not ready)! It is as simple as that!

[TrapGame]

LOL, yeah, some sort of voodoo is going to bite us in the rear end! We either play well (we are ready) or we don't (we are not ready)! It is as simple as that!

And this is not lost on Leach. You could tell by the last couple of pressers. He knows the PAC12. Also per Steve the usual away football schedule has been tweaked for the west coast. They are staying up later Friday and getting up late morning Saturday.

[Azcatman]

If any of you are coming out for the game, feel free to ask questions. Should be a fun game…..hopefully

[Jack Lambert]

Thought I would pop in and answer any questions you might have about our team and especially Tucson if you are making the trip down. Last time we saw the Pirate we lit him up for 52 but of course you guys are much different and we have been digging ourselves out of the Sumlin grave. Should be a fun night and hope you all can stay up late and watch

Give us time. We are still talking about our Saturdays game and the LSU game.

[99jc]

Give us time. We are still talking about our Saturdays game and the LSU game.

lol that was a classic

[CovertDawg]

The San Diego State starting QB only made 10 pass attempts. Not sure an offense could have prepared Arizona less for what they are going to see from Leach and Company. Rogers might throw that many on the opening drive. Random tidbit, Jalen Mayden now plays SAFETY at San Diego State. https://goaztecs.com/sports/football/roster/jalen-mayden/7671

[WhiskeyPirate]

The San Diego State starting QB only made 10 pass attempts. Not sure an offense could have prepared Arizona less for what they are going to see from Leach and Company. Rogers might throw that many on the opening drive. Random tidbit, Jalen Mayden now plays SAFETY at San Diego State. https://goaztecs.com/sports/football/roster/jalen-mayden/7671

Athlon preview for both SDSU and Arizona are pretty good write ups.

SDSU lost three starting O lineman and their leading rusher. That explains some things.

Arizona added 41 players in the spring and 15 in the summer. Jed Fisch is mentioned as a ?motivational guru/marketing genius/ceo type?.... barf. Really they could have skipped the BS and said he was given a big NIL check book.

[Goldendawg]

I stand corrected. The "Pac-12 after Dark" will get us, much like "LSU voodoo" because they are so close to New Orleans. "Dead Indian Burial Ground" hurts us at home. No wonder it is so hard to be a State fan and we are a constant also ran. We are doomed Saturday night, but will still beat every SEC game except GA/AL. WOW.**** Hail State and we beat AZ or I reluctantly eat all that bitter crow!

[Tater]

I stand corrected. The "Pac-12 after Dark" will get us, much like "LSU voodoo" because they are so close to New Orleans. "Dead Indian Burial Ground" hurts us at home. No wonder it is so hard to be a State fan and we are a constant also ran. We are doomed Saturday night, but will still beat every SEC game except GA/AL. WOW.**** Hail State and we beat AZ or I reluctantly each all that bitter crow!

I bet on State -8.5 FWIW. I'm just telling you to not to be surprised. I watched that Wazzu - UCLA 2019 game. I know what I saw. It defies logic.

https://theathletic.com/1231850/2019/09/23/bubble-screen-the-delight-of-pac-12-after-dark/

[Goldendawg]

I bet on State -8.5 FWIW. I'm just telling you to not to be surprised. I watched that Wazzu - UCLA 2019 game. I know what I saw. It defies logic.

https://theathletic.com/1231850/2019/09/23/bubble-screen-the-delight-of-pac-12-after-dark/

Am a State fan who saw my first game against Memphis at Crump Stadium at age 8. Nothing surprises me at this point. Really need this win for an above average year and momentum to LSU. Surely we can overcome the "Pac 12 at Night" with Leach's experience in that atmosphere and our talent superiority/experienced team will get the win. Hail State!

[Azcatman]

Let me extend the olive branch and answer any questions you Might have if your headed to Tucson

[Azcatman]

Are visitors not welcomed here?

[ScoobaDawg]

Are visitors not welcomed here?

Not generally. And new posters aren't allowed to post without approval

[Goldendawg]

Are visitors not welcomed here?

Don't feel bad sometimes fellow Dawgs get a rough time. How do you feel about the game, your chances to win, & the so-called "Pac 12 After Dark" issue from your perspective? Heck, we have a bama fan who posts here regularly.

[DownwardDawg]

We are vastly more talented than AZ.

As one AZ message board guy wrote: "MSU runs the same defense as San Diego State and we handled them just fine."

If I was in football operations that would be printed out in large font and stuck on every defensive player's locker.

We may run the same defense, but our athletes are mean, big, and fast. Oh yeah, and nasty.

[Commercecomet24]

We may run the same defense, but our athletes are mean, big, and fast. Oh yeah, and nasty.

This. If you watch the az/sdsu game you'll see sdsu has an undersized defensive line and lb corps and not near the speed we have on defense

[DownwardDawg]

This. If you watch the az/sdsu game you'll see sdsu has an undersized defensive line and lb corps and not near the speed we have on defense

Our defense is going to shock the hail out of them in the 1st quarter. How will they respond?

[Jack Lambert]

Are visitors not welcomed here?

As long as you are not a Mississippi Bear you are welcome here. You might have to prove you are not one of those douche bag from up North Mississippi. For the record I think you are a Arizona Fan. I am worried about the game. Our last couple of games played out West did not go well for us. Altitude, times zones and travel seems to be the problems. Also WE will be at a disadvantage having SEC refs calling the game. They never do us right on the out of conference road games. Watch we will get screwed a couple of times. Our team plays several games every year in stadiums with crowds 100K plus. Crowd is not the issue. However I always look forwards to the return visit to our Stadium. It is small with a bout 62K but it is the loudest stadium your team will ever play in. One more thing spelling does not apply here.

[PCHSDawg]

Welcome Azcatman.

[TrapGame]

Give us the low down Azcatman.

The AZ message boards are pretty cocky after beating SDSU.

[FISHDAWG]

Are visitors not welcomed here?

yes and welcome ... how's your pass rush ?

[Azcatman]

Guess it took a few days for the admins to approve me

Looking forward to the game Saturday. We have been in the football abyss since Sumlin. We had gone to 8 bowls from 08-17 until he got here. We had the dumber Stoops brother (Mike) and Rich Rod as our coaches before stumbling Sumlin.

We know Leach and in fact hung 59 on him in 17. Of course he didn’t have SEC level lineman so this will be much different. Most of us were not behind the Jedd Fisch hire but we now know we were wrong. He has done a great job turning over the roster in a few short years. He was hired Christmas 2020 so he didn’t have his recruits until this year. When you see a bunch of tall Libby players out there, think freshman. He worked the portal well this past year so we have 50 new players on our roster.

Our secondary is our strength on defense but can we get any pressure on your QB? Also if we can’t run it we are toast

[Azcatman]

Pass rush has been better. Kyon Barrs is a potential Sunday guy and Echols is a transfer from USC. Jalen Harris is big and strong but I think he lacks speed off the edge. It remains to be seen if we can pressure your QB well enough

[Azcatman]

The campus is beautiful if anyone will be coming out to Tucson. Tailgating on the mall is fantastic. Just say hi and smile and you will be very welcomed. The stadium is a bit old (1929) and needs some refreshing but that got sidetracked due to Covid.

The student section is by far the best in the conference, 10k strong and loud. This won’t be Death Valley or the swamp though. We have new field turf laid down this summer. Could get some rain but it never rains long in the desert.

[Azcatman]

Someone said our fans were cocky after our win? I think excited is more accurate. A sense of hope is back and optimism abounds. Most are hoping for a close game and maybe we can pull it out late (pun intended with the 8pm start).

We have been bad for far to long so I am sure you can understand a road win tastes pretty good. If this was basketball, cocky would fit. It’s football and hopeful is all we have LOL

[R2Dawg]

yes and welcome ... how's your pass rush ?

I think this is a key to the game and maybe every game MSU plays. The second part is how many men does it take to get pressure?

If Will gets all day, then can you out score us because we got guys who get open in space and Will will find them. Only other way is we don't score in the red zone.

[State82]

Are visitors not welcomed here?

Hell, our own get devoured around here. Don't worry about it.

[Azcatman]

Haha not worried about it at all. We can’t do much real talking being so bad in the recent years. Just want to welcome you all to Tucson. Planning on coming out to Starkville next year

[Azcatman]

Your kids are not quick to approve posts that’s for sure but zi assume they have lives unlike a lot of us who spend to much time on message boards LOL

[ScoobaDawg]

Your kids are not quick to approve posts that’s for sure but zi assume they have lives unlike a lot of us who spend to much time on message boards LOL

You should be cleared now.

[memsu06]

I worked in AZ for several months recently. Very scenic state. Wish I was working there now then I could go see this game.

Even if it rains I wouldn't worry too much. The humidity is so low water will evaporate very quick. I was in a steady rain one time and never got wet. It was evaporating at the same rate it was coming down.

I think state wins but they need to take the game serious.

Then we can focus on LSU who's fighting to be relavent.

[Azcatman]

DJ Williams is a guy you should know. He was at Auburn and Malzahn recommended him to Fisch. He is in the RB rotation with Wiley (our best pass catcher ou th of the RB’s) and a true freshman, Jonah Coleman. They will rotate in and out almost every play. We generally use a one back set with a TE but we go double TE’s every now and then.

Fisch worked for Belichek and McVey and this offense is supposedly the rams offense. Nansen is calling the defensive signals for the first time in his career. He did really good against SDSU. We gave up one TD and one FG. They got a FG on a turnover and we blocked our own punt in the end zone. It really wouldn’t surprise me if this game went under the number

I do worry about your defense as I think Arnett is a really good hire by Leach

[Dawgology]

AZ comes at a perfect time for state. Before the year started I thought they would be worse than Memphis butni think they may be a little better. Going to be a good step up type test leading into LSU

[TrapGame]

Sports Book and Pearl River has us -12 now. Caesars has us -11 now.

Per Bartoo Arizona has Vandy level talent. Their QB is the most talented guy on the team.

Time to take care of business Dawgs.

[PMDawg]

Also if we can?t run it we are toast

I love seeing this! Run defense is our strength. Get ready to hear Jett Johnson's name A LOT.

[parabrave]

You should be cleared now.

Only if he can tell us what type of Aircraft is the big blackish/blueish one at the Pima Air Museum. Seriously was in Tuscon years ago and the only time I ever saw a "Mountain Lion Crossing" sign on a golf Course.

[R2Dawg]

Guess it took a few days for the admins to approve me

Looking forward to the game Saturday. We have been in the football abyss since Sumlin. We had gone to 8 bowls from 08-17 until he got here. We had the dumber Stoops brother (Mike) and Rich Rod as our coaches before stumbling Sumlin.

We know Leach and in fact hung 59 on him in 17. Of course he didn?t have SEC level lineman so this will be much different. Most of us were not behind the Jedd Fisch hire but we now know we were wrong. He has done a great job turning over the roster in a few short years. He was hired Christmas 2020 so he didn?t have his recruits until this year. When you see a bunch of tall Libby players out there, think freshman. He worked the portal well this past year so we have 50 new players on our roster.

Our secondary is our strength on defense but can we get any pressure on your QB? Also if we can?t run it we are toast

If you are run heavy, I think that plays well for us unless you catch us in a blitz at a good time you can break one but general line up and run it will be tough sledding. We have a good backend but we get burned at times too. This will be a really good measuring stick for AZ. If yall play us well, I think yall will have a good year and bowl. If not, may depend on how good PAC10 is.

[Pancho]

dumber stoops and rich rod...........

[Azcatman]

Your going to run into the AZ fan that thinks we will go 12-0. That’s random at its best. Most I talk to are taking a measured approach. You guys have a defense that is right behind Bama and Georgia. That’s really good company. Our coach has preached being more physical and we have a strength coach who was at Bama for 5 of their championships. Our guys are bigger and stronger and we did run again SDSU last week but they ain’t you.

Weather could be an issue. There is a tropical storm drawing some moisture into the area so we might get some rain. I doubt it is heavy but that could help us. The other helpful thing is we have played Leach a lot and are very familiar with this style. Different level of athletes but it still should help some.

[DownwardDawg]

Your going to run into the AZ fan that thinks we will go 12-0. That’s random at its best. Most I talk to are taking a measured approach. You guys have a defense that is right behind Bama and Georgia. That’s really good company. Our coach has preached being more physical and we have a strength coach who was at Bama for 5 of their championships. Our guys are bigger and stronger and we did run again SDSU last week but they ain’t you.

Weather could be an issue. There is a tropical storm drawing some moisture into the area so we might get some rain. I doubt it is heavy but that could help us. The other helpful thing is we have played Leach a lot and are very familiar with this style. Different level of athletes but it still should help some.

This is a good take. Good post. Thanks for posting.

[Cowbell]

Your going to run into the AZ fan that thinks we will go 12-0. That?s random at its best. Most I talk to are taking a measured approach. You guys have a defense that is right behind Bama and Georgia. That?s really good company. Our coach has preached being more physical and we have a strength coach who was at Bama for 5 of their championships. Our guys are bigger and stronger and we did run again SDSU last week but they ain?t you.

Weather could be an issue. There is a tropical storm drawing some moisture into the area so we might get some rain. I doubt it is heavy but that could help us. The other helpful thing is we have played Leach a lot and are very familiar with this style. Different level of athletes but it still should help some.

Welcome - and thanks for the good info. This game will be close in my opinion, as we have yet to do well in road games vs. other conferences,

[Coach34]

They will have alot of problems with our speed on both sides of the ball

[Commercecomet24]

They will have alot of problems with our speed on both sides of the ball

This is going to be the biggest difference and unless we turn the ball over a bunch it will be to much for az, overcome.

[BulldogBear]

Haha not worried about it at all. We can?t do much real talking being so bad in the recent years. Just want to welcome you all to Tucson. Planning on coming out to Starkville next year
When that happens we can definitely hook you up with the food/beverage options in Starkville.

And on that note, what I'm really in the market for is an awesome Sunday brunch in the Phoenix area where we're staying. The original Sunday plan was to drive up to the trailhead that leads to the Granite Mountain Hotshots Memorial, but with us getting back so late from Tuscon I've tabled that for 2024 when we come out to play ASU. Mrs. BulldogBear will be along for this trip so instead of the hike I thought the dinner cruise on the riverboat in Canyon Lake Sunday evening sounded good. So, we don't want to eat a late lunch. Thought of finding some place to go church Sunday but we'll probably sleep too long after the late night.

[TUSK]

If you slakkadacktyls ain't drunk and yellin' "Ess E See" by the 3rd, I'm cancelling your SECebt Card, dammit!!!

[Azcatman]

While the canyon cruise is scenic I would suggest taking a drive up to Sedona and driving the back road down to Prescott and Jerome. Our game wont end until 12:30am and it is easy to get back on the freeway to Phoenix but it’s still 2 hours there.

Tucson has much better Mexican food than Phoenix but Phoenix has a greater option of really good restaurants. Pretty boring drive on I-10 and it can get crowded going down so give yourself another 30 minutes. Take the Grant exit and turn right on Campbell then right on Speedway to access parking areas. Some pay lots may charge you $10 but you can find parking. Head south from there and go to the mall for tailgating. Concert starts at 5 or 6 I think. You will see the Hall of Champions at McKake center, the Flandreau Planitarium, the softball field and on the mall is the USS Arizona memorial. It’s bell rings after every UofA victory so it’s been pretty quiet lately LOL

[BulldogBear]

While the canyon cruise is scenic I would suggest taking a drive up to Sedona and driving the back road down to Prescott and Jerome. Our game wont end until 12:30am and it is easy to get back on the freeway to Phoenix but it’s still 2 hours there.

Tucson has much better Mexican food than Phoenix but Phoenix has a greater option of really good restaurants. Pretty boring drive on I-10 and it can get crowded going down so give yourself another 30 minutes. Take the Grant exit and turn right on Campbell then right on Speedway to access parking areas. Some pay lots may charge you $10 but you can find parking. Head south from there and go to the mall for tailgating. Concert starts at 5 or 6 I think. You will see the Hall of Champions at McKake center, the Flandreau Planitarium, the softball field and on the mall is the USS Arizona memorial. It’s bell rings after every UofA victory so it’s been pretty quiet lately LOL


I would love to hear the USS Arizona Bell, but not this Saturday lol

[Schultzy]

If you slakkadacktyls ain't drunk and yellin' "Ess E See" by the 3rd, I'm cancelling your SECebt Card, dammit!!!

You haven’t been a State fan long enough.