MLB Draft

[ZedFedder]

It looks like a bunch of our signees are being selected in the first few rounds. What are the chances they still come? I have seen Highfill, Dakota J, Holcombe, Loftin all selected in the first 200 or so picks.

[parabrave]

It looks like a bunch of our signees are being selected in the first few rounds. What are the chances they still come? I have seen Highfill, Dakota J, Holcombe, Loftin all selected in the first 200 or so picks.

1st rounder and they are gone.

[Hambone]

All 4 of those will not be selected in the first round. Jett Williams looks to be the only one going in the first.

[Homedawg]

If anyone of them get drafted in the first ten rounds they are gone. Meaning, the team is willing to pay and knows they can sign them. Not much wasting of picks anymore

[AlSwearengen]

If anyone of them get drafted in the first ten rounds they are gone. Meaning, the team is willing to pay and knows they can sign them. Not much wasting of picks anymore

Well, looks like this class is gutted.

ETA: I went and checked and the first 2 rds are today, so I guess none have been “selected” yet. I guess the OP meant they are projected to be chosen in those spots.

[MetEdDawg]

If anyone of them get drafted in the first ten rounds they are gone. Meaning, the team is willing to pay and knows they can sign them. Not much wasting of picks anymore

This isn't necessarily true. With the reduction of minor league teams, you don't have to stockpile so many picks, so saving slot money to go after higher end folks is the name of the game. It's why the Braves traded what they did for the comp. 1st round pick the other day. They want more pool money (2.2 million dollars more) and not necessarily whoever they draft in that spot.

Kids might get picked in the first 5 rounds with teams knowing full well they are going to low ball to either try and steal a kid and/or save on pool money to sign other kids. Or low ball seniors and save pool money.

MLB has had to get smart with NIL now directly competing with their college talent pool. Guys in the 3rd through 5th round can go to college and get some decent money now if you go below slot, which some teams will do.

I'll be interested to see how teams spend money this year. But I don't think it's a guarantee guys are gone in certain rounds because the money has to be right.

[Homedawg]

Well, looks like this class is gutted.

ETA: I went and checked and the first 2 rds are today, so I guess none have been “selected” yet. I guess the OP meant they are projected to be chosen in those spots.

What are you talking about? Gutted how??

[Homedawg]

This isn't necessarily true. With the reduction of minor league teams, kyou don't have to stockpile so many picks, so saving slot money to go after higher end folks is the name of the game. It's why the Braves traded what they did for the comp. 1st round pick the other day. They want more pool money (2.2 million dollars more) and not necessarily whoever they draft in that spot.

Kids might get picked in the first 5 rounds with teams knowing full well they are going to low ball to either try and steal a kid and/or save on pool money to sign other kids. Or low ball seniors and save pool money.

MLB has had to get smart with NIL now directly competing with their college talent pool. Guys in the 3rd through 5th round can go to college and get some decent money now if you go below slot, which some teams will do.

I'll be interested to see how teams spend money this year. But I don't think it's a guarantee guys are gone in certain rounds because the money has to be right.
What I said is absolutely true. Teams don't take many chances on guys they can't sign in the first ten rounds . I know how it works. If they go in the first ten rounds don't count on seeing them. It doesn't mean they aren't a top ten round prospect if they are taken. Just the teams don't like the players signability.

[somebodyshotmypaw]

Kumar Rocker drafted #3 overall.

[Catfish]

Kumar Rocker drafted #3 overall.

Hope he's finally healthy.

[somebodyshotmypaw]

Hope he's finally healthy.

He’s probably agreed to a value below the slot. That gives the rangers more money to use in other rounds.

[somebodyshotmypaw]

#1 pick - son of MLB all-star Matt Holliday
#2 pick - son of MLB all-star Andruw Jones
#3 pick - son of college All-American and NFL player Tracy Rocker

[EdwardDrayton]

Kumar Rocker drafted #3 overall.

Sure didn?t expect his name at #3.

Rangers now with Leiter and Rocker.

[Hambone]

He’s probably agreed to a value below the slot. That gives the rangers more money to use in other rounds.

Well he was drafted 10th overall last year and didn’t sign. So why would he take less money? Well, under slot money.

[AlSwearengen]

What are you talking about? Gutted how??

Reading the original post, I thought he was saying that those signees had already been drafted. That combined with your post saying that a team that drafts a player in the first 10 rds knew they could sign them led me to believe they were going to sign.

I misunderstood the original post.

[msstate7]

Where is sims gonna be drafted and who are the braves getting at 20?

[KOdawg1]

Where is sims gonna be drafted and who are the braves getting at 20?

Sims is likely in the second round.

Wouldn't be surprised to see the Braves go with Connor Prielipp or Jackson Cannon.

[msstate7]

Sims is likely in the second round.

Wouldn't be surprised to see the Braves go with Connor Prielipp or Jackson Cannon.

I asked the question like a DA knowing I wouldn't know the player. Thanks anyway. Hopefully braves get sims in 2nd

[SilentSteel16]

Rumor is Sims after 60 he will be back in Starkville

[Homedawg]

Where is sims gonna be drafted and who are the braves getting at 20?

Later than he should and he's going to be the first pitcher in the draft not named rocker to make it to the bigs. I'll say LS at 36

[Homedawg]

Rumor is Sims after 60 he will be back in Starkville

Unless boras is his advisor and he's an idiot.... no.

[EdwardDrayton]

Rumor is Sims after 60 he will be back in Starkville

Thinking he?ll go 50-55. Hard to imagine he would come back even at 60.

[smootness]

Reeeeeally hope we can get Dylan Lesko to fall.

[EdwardDrayton]

14th pick Jett Williams to the Mets. And so it begins.

[Tater]

Rumor is Sims after 60 he will be back in Starkville

He wouldn't be ready for next season unless he just super humans it. It's usually minimum a year, up to 2 years. He'd be smart to take anything 7 figures imo.

[Tater]

It's not about what number they are drafted at btw. It's about the money offered.

Rocker went third but also signed 2 million under slot. Teams can manipulate that slot a lot to sign guys.

[Homedawg]

Reeeeeally hope we can get Dylan Lesko to fall.

So much for that

[EdwardDrayton]

Reeeeeally hope we can get Dylan Lesko to fall.

Wow. You must have rubbed that genie lamp extra hard. LOL

[Homedawg]

14th pick Jett Williams to the Mets. And so it begins.

We knew that was happening... just hang on to the rest. Lose one and that's still good.

[Commercecomet24]

We knew that was happening... just hang on to the rest. Lose one and that's still good.

Yeah this. You know everyone's gonna lose some to the draft just keep it to a
minimum.

[EdwardDrayton]

We knew that was happening... just hang on to the rest. Lose one and that's still good.

Little doubt he was going early. We just seem to fight this every single year all the way down the line.

[AlSwearengen]

why were we hoping for Dylan Lesko to fall?

[smootness]

why were we hoping for Dylan Lesko to fall?

To the Braves at 20 cause that kid is a massive stud.

[Homedawg]

Little doubt he was going early. We just seem to fight this every single year all the way down the line.

If you're recruiting properly, it SHOULD happen every year. Every single year. Just like vandy, lsu. They will lose plenty. Sign the best and go from there.

[MetEdDawg]

To the Braves at 20 cause that kid is a massive stud.

Not happening now. Taken at 15.

There's word that the Braves are interested in LoTan 2nd or 3rd round. I would imagine they go pitcher at 20 and try and find an available catcher 2nd round now that Langeliers is gone.

Wouldn't be shocked to see the Braves take a college senior with their 1st round compensatory pick or someone out of high school they want to low ball and be ok not signing because they'll end up with a compensatory pick again next year.

[EdwardDrayton]

why were we hoping for Dylan Lesko to fall?

I assumed with Horton and Gabe Hughes off the board, he was thinking the Braves at 20.

[SilentSteel16]

Yes it is about where they are picked. After 60 lots of your extra slot value and draft capital is tied into your first 2 picks unless you just blow it. A lot of younger position guys going which means that alot of slot money is going away. You hit in the 60s most guys aren’t getting a lot of slot money.

[Coach34]

Homedawg says Top Ten rounds and he is pretty on point- but Top 5 rounds fo sho. Scouts lose jobs over picks not signing in the top 5 rounds now. Dont expect anybody in the top 5 rounds to pass up the money and go to college with the way things are now

[SilentSteel16]

Also, if you need 2 years to start CTing again then your career is probably over. UCL injuries that is.

[Homedawg]

Homedawg says Top Ten rounds and he is pretty on point- but Top 5 rounds fo sho. Scouts lose jobs over picks not signing in the top 5 rounds now. Dont expect anybody in the top 5 rounds to pass up the money and go to college with the way things are now

The reason I say ten is bc if a team goes and picks 3 college srs in rounds 3-5 they've saved a lot of money. Then pick a flyer in round 8 or 9 they can pay him lots. But your point is spot on.

[SilentSteel16]

The reason I say ten is bc if a team goes and picks 3 college srs in rounds 3-5 they've saved a lot of money. Then pick a flyer in round 8 or 9 they can pay him lots. But your point is spot on.

Exactly, but if you go hs rounds 1 and 2 then go after a SO in college at round 3 you are not getting a discount. The discount come from 4th and 5th year college guys. Don’t get me wrong, I would be shocked to see Sims back BUT with the amount of HS guys going there won’t be many discounts early.

[MetEdDawg]

The reason I say ten is bc if a team goes and picks 3 college srs in rounds 3-5 they've saved a lot of money. Then pick a flyer in round 8 or 9 they can pay him lots. But your point is spot on.

Gray Fenter is this. 7th round and got I believe 2 million. We all thought we had him when he dropped that far until we heard how much above slot he was going to get.

[Commercecomet24]

If you're recruiting properly, it SHOULD happen every year. Every single year. Just like vandy, lsu. They will lose plenty. Sign the best and go from there.

Yeah, heck Om has about 5 commits ranked in top 3 rounds.

[Coach34]

Sims aint coming back. Give that up.

[SilentSteel16]

Just relaying what a scout told me this morning. The Reds don’t believe they could sign him. Take it for what it is worth.

[Homedawg]

For those paying attention, vandy has lost 4 guys already. They do every year. They don't get everyone, never do. They just sign more than everyone else.

[EdwardDrayton]

I hope the Astros rue the day they drafted that TN putz.

[Homedawg]

Just relaying what a scout told me this morning. The Reds don’t believe they could sign him. Take it for what it is worth.

Ha the reds, I'm sure they want 50 cents on the dollar , there is a reason they suck every year. Heck he probably told them he wanted 4 million so he wouldn't have to play for them!!!!����.... sims is going to sign.

[Coach34]

Ha the reds, I'm sure they want 50 cents on the dollar , there is a reason they suck every year. Heck he probably told them he wanted 4 million so he wouldn't have to play for them!!!!����.... sims is going to sign.

haha- yeah. Anybody thinking MLB wont get Sims is kidding themselves. We could NIL him for maybe 150K- MLB is going to give him a million plus. Best of luck to him

[SilentSteel16]

Zona great pick by them.

[Homedawg]

I said 36. Guess I wasn't to far off. ... but the reds ....

[KOdawg1]

Congrats Lando.

Go be great.

[SilentSteel16]

Homedawg you can say what you want but I know for a fact that he was looked at very very very hard about 3 picks earlier but they were afraid of his number.

BTW the “source” has been a scout for 35 years. He has probably forgotten more stuff about professional baseball than a lot of us combined know of baseball. And I have a little length to my teeth on pro ball.

[Homedawg]

Homedawg you can say what you want but I know for a fact that he was looked at very very very hard about 3 picks earlier but they were afraid of his number.

BTW the “source” has been a scout for 35 years. He has probably forgotten more stuff about professional baseball than a lot of us combined know of baseball. And I have a little length to my teeth on pro ball.

Ok great.... he won't be here next year. Guess I know more about this situation than him or you.

[Coach34]

Homedawg you can say what you want but I know for a fact that he was looked at very very very hard about 3 picks earlier but they were afraid of his number.

BTW the “source” has been a scout for 35 years. He has probably forgotten more stuff about professional baseball than a lot of us combined know of baseball. And I have a little length to my teeth on pro ball.

say what you want- but Sims is about to sign with Arizona for alot of money. You were simply- wrong

[SilentSteel16]

How was I wrong? I said what the rumor was and yes pick 60 was going to be the cutoff.

[mparkerfd20]

2.26mil slot value, but he won't get close to that. Congrats tho Lando. Go be great!

[SilentSteel16]

All I know was 1.8 plus was not going to be an option for the Reds. That was the number I was told a little less than 12 hours ago and that was for 32nd.

[Patrick Tibbons]

You also said he was looked at hard 3 picks earlier but his number scared that team off.

[Homedawg]

2.26mil slot value, but he won't get close to that. Congrats tho Lando. Go be great!

He'll get close to that.

[Homedawg]

All I know was 1.8 plus was not going to be an option for the Reds. That was the number I was told a little less than 12 hours ago and that was for 32nd.

Again, the reds wanted 50 cents in the dollar. He's a top 20 pick taken at 34. Reds suck. Have since I was a kid. Too cheap. As I said previously, he will be the first pitcher in the bigs not named rocker.

[mparkerfd20]

He'll get close to that.

Define close? He won't get 2mil

[Coach34]

He will get 2MM or so. Anybody thinking he wont is an idiot

[Commercecomet24]

Sims will get 2 million.

[EdwardDrayton]

How was I wrong? I said what the rumor was and yes pick 60 was going to be the cutoff.

Some knowledgeable folks on here Silent and sometimes they can act a little unpolished Lords of the Manor. But it’s worth the price of admission which is, well, you know.

[SilentSteel16]

Yes Sims will get that much. The Reds weren’t willing to give that. Not sure why just what I was told.

[SilentSteel16]

Unpolished… that is a great description. But there was nothing that I said that was not factual. Not real sure at what part I was “wrong”

[Homedawg]

Define close? He won't get 2mil

Ok

[SilentSteel16]

Might be a little bias but I think Arizona is winning this draft. Haha

[BeardoMSU]

Define close? He won't get 2mil

Correct. It was 2.26 mil...

[Homedawg]

Correct. It was 2.26 mil...

He's saying he won't get slot

[EdwardDrayton]

He's saying he won't get slot

I can see both sides. Is a guy coming off UCL really worthy of a full 2.26 slot value? On the other hand, do you really want to start out on that note with your #1 pick? Probably not.

However, from our perspective, it doesn’t matter. 1.8, 2.0 or 2.26, he’s still pulling on a Dbacks uni.

[ScoobaDawg]

Tanner at 55 to reds

[mparkerfd20]

I don't think Landon will get slot. I hope I'm wrong. I wouldn't give someone coming off UCL who hasn't pitched a competitive inning since 2 mil either. I want Lando to sign for millions. I just expect it to be around 1.8.

[SilentSteel16]

Almost like the Reds had a presence in Starkville…

[KOdawg1]

LoTan was the best defensive catcher I've ever seen at State. He also battled through a lot of injuries no one knew about and showed toughness throughout his career. His HR vs Vandy in game 3 was when it really started to set in that we were about to win it all. Thanks for being a Dawg Logan and best wishes on your career.

[EdwardDrayton]

Tanner at 55 to reds

Outstanding. Happy for him. When I first saw it I thought it was Cleveland. Thank goodness it’s the Reds. No one should ever have to wear a uni with ‘Guardians’ on it. :)

[Commercecomet24]

I don't think Landon will get slot. I hope I'm wrong. I wouldn't give someone coming off UCL who hasn't pitched a competitive inning since 2 mil either. I want Lando to sign for millions. I just expect it to be around 1.8.

Ginn got 3 mill drafted with pick 52 than sims at 34 and with Tommy John and sims is a better pitcher. He'll get his 2 mill+

[mparkerfd20]

Ginn got 3 mill drafted with pick 52 than sims at 34 and with Tommy John and sims is a better pitcher. He'll get his 2 mill+
Ok. Hope so.

[Commercecomet24]

LoTan was the best defensive catcher I've ever seen at State. He also battled through a lot of injuries no one knew about and showed toughness throughout his career. His HR vs Vandy in game 3 was when it really started to set in that we were about to win it all. Thanks for being a Dawg Logan and best wishes on your career.

Agree. Logan played on one leg pretty much all this year. Ankle was injured against Tulane and never really got better because he caught pretty much every game accept for the midweeks.

[BeardoMSU]

How about upperclassmen from around the league we'd like to move on (e.g., DeLucia)?

[Homedawg]

LoTan was the best defensive catcher I've ever seen at State. He also battled through a lot of injuries no one knew about and showed toughness throughout his career. His HR vs Vandy in game 3 was when it really started to set in that we were about to win it all. Thanks for being a Dawg Logan and best wishes on your career.

The best defensive catcher and amen to the rest. Sigh of relief for sure

[Homedawg]

How about upperclassmen from around the league we'd like to move on (e.g., DeLucia)?

Delucia won't be back

[Todd4State]

How about upperclassmen from around the league we'd like to move on (e.g., DeLucia)?

Probably a round 3-5 guy if I had to guess.

[Todd4State]

The thing about Sims- had he come back he would have been rehabbing a good bit of the year probably. I love Sims. He's one of my favorite MSU players of all time. I will never forget him coming out of the bullpen the Sunday game against Ole Miss in 2021 and the crowd going nuts because you knew it was over. And of course, he was lights out in game 3 of the finals. But the sad reality is it's best and time for both us to move on.

[Captain Falcon]

The thing about Sims- had he come back he would have been rehabbing a good bit of the year probably. I love Sims. He's one of my favorite MSU players of all time. I will never forget him coming out of the bullpen the Sunday game against Ole Miss in 2021 and the crowd going nuts because you knew it was over. And of course, he was lights out in game 3 of the finals. But the sad reality is it's best and time for both us to move on.

The frustrating part with Sims is we only got one full season with him because of COVID and the injury. That one full season was as dominant of a year as any pitcher we?ve ever had. Sucks for us and for him that he wasn?t able to have a longer run in college baseball.

[Saltydog]

I've been watching games at the Dude since '77 and the only pitcher that remotely had a year close to Sims last year was Lindgren (dubbed the strike out factory by the Yanks GM) in '14. I actually think his numbers may have been a little better than Sims if I"m not mistaken. That curveball of his was unhittable. Problem was, it almost had too much break on it. He was a catcher's nightmare. Nonetheless, Sims may be my all time favorite Dog.

[MaroonFlounder]

That curveball of his was unhittable. Problem was, it almost had too much break on it. He was a catcher's nightmare.

You sure you're not thinking of Lindgren's slider?

If I remember correctly, that's the pitch of his that exploded so much the catcher couldn't catch it.

He struck out a lot of guys that reached on swing strike 3 passed balls.

[Saltydog]

You sure you're not thinking of Lindgren's slider?

If I remember correctly, that's the pitch of his that exploded so much the catcher couldn't catch it.

He struck out a lot of guys that reached on swing strike 3 passed balls.

Yes, you are correct Flounder.........I just went and looked up Lindgren's numbers........

Take a look at these stats and he wasn't even the closer. That was Holder, who was actually better in '13 than he was in '14...........

Record 6-1
ERA 0.81
Runs 9 / ER's 5
IP 55.1
K's 100
BB's 25
Hits 23
2b's 0
3b's 1
Hr's 0
SV's 3
WP's 18
HBP 8

[BrunswickDawg]

Just saw a stat that Sims is our 19th 1st round pick, with 9 of those being from 2012-2022. That's moving a ton of talent through DNF.

[somebodyshotmypaw]

We are early in round 5. The draft has been good to us so far. We knew Jett wasn't coming. We knew Logan Tanner and Sims weren't staying. Other risks haven't been chosen yet.

[MetEdDawg]

So far we are good through the 3rd and 4th rounds. No losses yet. 5th and 6th round is where we really need to look for a guy like Loftin

[somebodyshotmypaw]

So far we are good through the 3rd and 4th rounds. No losses yet. 5th and 6th round is where we really need to look for a guy like Loftin

My assumption is that if a guy is taken in the first 10 rounds, he's probably gone. I assume these teams are working out the numbers and getting a commitment from the player before they actually draft him.

[somebodyshotmypaw]

We are deep into the 5 round. The slot has just dropped below $350,000.

[ScoobaDawg]

all clear thru 5.

[somebodyshotmypaw]

We are starting the 6th round. Slot is now less than $320,000.

[somebodyshotmypaw]

Derek Diamond of Ole Miss picked early in the 6th

[ScoobaDawg]

2 rebels early in the 6th..diamond and dunhurst. see ya

[maroonmania]

Derek Diamond of Ole Miss picked early in the 6th

No DeLuca? If OM gets him back to school to pair with Elliott again they are going to have a dominant rotation

[somebodyshotmypaw]

Dunhurst and DeLucia are gone. Slot is now below $285,000

[maroonmania]

2 rebels early in the 6th..diamond and dunhurst. see ya

Diamond is no big loss.

[ScoobaDawg]

No DeLuca? If OM gets him back to school to pair with Elliott again they are going to have a dominant rotation

there he goes... 181 to the guradians

[somebodyshotmypaw]

Going into round 7. The slot is below $250,000. We are in good shape so far.

[somebodyshotmypaw]

Preston Johnson goes as the first pick in round 7

[ScoobaDawg]

All clear thru 6... 5 minute break then 7-10. slot drops to 249k with first pick in 7th.

Gotta feel good about Loftin

[somebodyshotmypaw]

Preston to the Orioles. They probably have already worked a deal.

[ScoobaDawg]

Preston johnson to balt with 1st pick of 7th.

[somebodyshotmypaw]

about halfway through the 7th. Slot is less than $225,000

[basedog]

Preston johnson to balt with 1st pick of 7th.

If I was Preston I would take the 249K.

[somebodyshotmypaw]

If I was Preston I would take the 249K.

I assume the deal is agreed upon. I have no idea if it's above or below the slot.

[Commercecomet24]

If I was Preston I would take the 249K.

Same here. He's not gonna get anymore if he decides to come back next year, and would more than likely get less.

[Coach34]

Gotta feel good about Loftin

Absolutely. They were wanting 1st round money or he is going to college was the word.

[somebodyshotmypaw]

KC Hunt and Jackson Fristoe still undrafted. Kam James also undrafted so far.

[Commercecomet24]

Absolutely. They were wanting 1st round money or he is going to college was the word.

Yeah I've heard the same. Of course it's always possible they could finagle the slot money to get him more but highly unlikely.

[Coach34]

KC Hunt and Jackson Fristoe still undrafted. Kam James also undrafted so far.

All 3 almost assuredly coming back now

[Commercecomet24]

KC Hunt and Jackson Fristoe still undrafted. Kam James also undrafted so far.

Not surprised at this at all. The folks i've talked to don't rate any of the 3 of them very highly on their draft boards at this time. In fact Kam has slipped quite a bit.

[ScoobaDawg]

Yeah I've heard the same. Of course it's always possible they could finagle the slot money to get him more but highly unlikely.

Slot's below 200k now. Would be VERY difficult to slide a mil at LEAST to that amount to get him to sign.

[basedog]

All 3 almost assuredly coming back now

Not surprised a bit. Who knows for sure right now but I'm not sure any would make a major league team?

[BrunswickDawg]

Absolutely. They were wanting 1st round money or he is going to college was the word.

I'm thinking that a number of our recruits put word out they wanted to go to college. If we end up only losing Williams then we have had a very strong recruiting cycle.

[Coach34]

Not surprised at this at all. The folks i've talked to don't rate any of the 3 of them very highly on their draft boards at this time. In fact Kam has slipped quite a bit.

His lack of power is killing his stock....kept Tanner out of the 1st round also

[Commercecomet24]

Slot's below 200k now. Would be VERY difficult to slide a mil at LEAST to that amount to get him to sign.

Oh yeah I agree completely. It has been done before but extremely unlikely.

[Commercecomet24]

His lack of power is killing his stock

This. And he really doesn't have a position. I haven't talked to anyone who thinks he can make it in pro ball as infielder. His only shot is in the outfield but it appears he's gonna have to stay at 3B for us, because our outfield looks pretty good right now, but of course that could change.

[basedog]

Not surprised at this at all. The folks i've talked to don't rate any of the 3 of them very highly on their draft boards at this time. In fact Kam has slipped quite a bit.

Great minds think alike my friend! LOL

[Hambone]

I know, this is the draft thread, but how is Cade, Base?

[Commercecomet24]

Great minds think alike my friend! LOL

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to basedog again.

[somebodyshotmypaw]

We are into the 9th inning. Slot is now below $164,000

[ScoobaDawg]

Brad Cumbest to Colo in the 9th. pick 266

Thanks for the memories Mule!

[662dawg]

This. And he really doesn't have a position. I haven't talked to anyone who thinks he can make it in pro ball as infielder. His only shot is in the outfield but it appears he's gonna have to stay at 3B for us, because our outfield looks pretty good right now, but of course that could change.

I don't think he beats out Alford at 3b next year. Kam may get a shot at RF some(with Kellum at DH), DH & play 3B occasionally.

If we end up signing Skenes things get awful interesting.

[basedog]

I know, this is the draft thread, but how is Cade, Base?

I was told "he will be fine". I'm just gonna get this out there as I have been asked many times about Cade. It's a personal "family" disconnect, I want be commenting on Cade this fall. I hope you guys can understand as I stay in my lane.

[ScoobaDawg]

Josh Hatcher to Texas in the 10th... good for him

[BrunswickDawg]

Josh Hatcher to Texas in the 10th... good for him

Good for Hatch!

[ScoobaDawg]

There goes Elko... in the 10th pick 311.

[ScoobaDawg]

Day 2 is done! Very likely we get all our recruits now.

[ScoobaDawg]

well evidently Bill Knight was going to transfer here and just got drafted

[HoopsDawg]

Big loss on Knight. Damn. Look for Alford at 3B with Kam to the OF.

[MetEdDawg]

well evidently Bill Knight was going to transfer here and just got drafted

Might be where Kam James ends up playing. Not many folks talked about Knight but he was going to be a solid portal pickup for us. Likely gone now.

[ScoobaDawg]

Might be where Kam James ends up playing. Not many folks talked about Knight but he was going to be a solid portal pickup for us. Likely gone now.

Yea... 150k slot value... not gonna get that next year as a 5 year sr.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Big loss on Knight. Damn. Look for Alford at 3B with Kam to the OF.

Watch & see if Ethan Groff gets drafted tomorrow.

[somebodyshotmypaw]

If we lose Bill Knight, then it opens a spot for possibly Downs in the outfield, or Alford plays 3rd and Kam James moves to the outfield. It also makes Skenes more important (he would presumably DH).

The final day of the draft will be interesting for sure. But I like where we currently stand.

Edited to say that I'm assuming that Knight will be leaving. I believe the team had a deal with Knight, or else they would not have drafted him.

[KOdawg1]

Pretty good day today. Losing Knight sucks but that was always a possibility, I just hadn't thought of it.

Probably going to get all our recruits to campus which is good for us next year and in the future

Watch for Kam, KC, Fristoe, and a way outside shot at Hancock. Feeling good about things as of now.

[KOdawg1]

Watch & see if Ethan Groff gets drafted tomorrow.
Pretty solid plan B if not

[HoopsDawg]

We are going to have a completely different team next year I count 25 incoming freshman and transfers. Only have about 15 returners. 5 have to get cut and 8 will be walk-ons.

[ScoobaDawg]

We are going to have a completely different team next year I count 25 incoming freshman and transfers. Only have about 15 returners. 5 have to get cut and 8 will be walk-ons.

Indeed and far from down. Let's get skenes and groff from Tulane... And maybe one or two more

And oh boy the competition this fall...

[KOdawg1]

We are going to have a completely different team next year I count 25 incoming freshman and transfers. Only have about 15 returners. 5 have to get cut and 8 will be walk-ons.

Good. I hope next year's team has very few similarities to this years team

[HoopsDawg]

Indeed and far from down. Let's get skenes and groff from Tulane... And maybe one or two more

And oh boy the competition this fall...

Skenes is the key. Let's hope we don't blow it like we did in Hoops.

[BrunswickDawg]

Our both handed pitcher seems to be liking Starkville so far....
https://twitter.com/_loocijntje/status/1549207779570753538?s=21&t=nhRtcVyFbTonC46RCTiqAQ

[Todd4State]

We are going to have a completely different team next year I count 25 incoming freshman and transfers. Only have about 15 returners. 5 have to get cut and 8 will be walk-ons.

Yes we are. I think it's much needed. We need to transition over to Lemonis's players.

If we escape rounds 11-20 unscathed our class this year reminds me a bit of the 2016 class we brought in with Mangum, Small, Stovall, etc. Except the 2016 class took some hits when we lost Austin Riley and Grey Fenter who we had a reasonable chance of getting to MSU.

[somebodyshotmypaw]

Yes we are. I think it's much needed. We need to transition over to Lemonis's players.

If we escape rounds 11-20 unscathed our class this year reminds me a bit of the 2016 class we brought in with Mangum, Small, Stovall, etc. Except the 2016 class took some hits when we lost Austin Riley and Grey Fenter who we had a reasonable chance of getting to MSU.

Agreed. Jett, Sims, and Logan Tanner were locks. They were signing and everyone knew it. So far, Knight is the only one that we’ve lost that we had a shot at (assuming he signs, and I believe he will sign). But we could get the entire signing class minus Jett.

[BrunswickDawg]

Yes we are. I think it's much needed. We need to transition over to Lemonis's players.

If we escape rounds 11-20 unscathed our class this year reminds me a bit of the 2016 class we brought in with Mangum, Small, Stovall, etc. Except the 2016 class took some hits when we lost Austin Riley and Grey Fenter who we had a reasonable chance of getting to MSU.

That was actually the '15 class - were freshman in the '16 season. That class was pretty impressive - even with a number of guys who never played and transferred out. 17 out of 24 got drafted at some point between '15 and '19.

[Saltydog]

Our both handed pitcher seems to be liking Starkville so far....
https://twitter.com/_loocijntje/status/1549207779570753538?s=21&t=nhRtcVyFbTonC46RCTiqAQ

I'd love to get this kid on campus. What are the chances he'll have TJ surgery on both arms before he leaves.......

[SilentSteel16]

I'd love to get this kid on campus. What are the chances he'll have TJ surgery on both arms before he leaves.......
In the words of the late great Lucious Washington ………..
“Don’t you put that evil on me Rickey Bobby, Don’t you put that on us!!!”

[BrunswickDawg]

I'd love to get this kid on campus. What are the chances he'll have TJ surgery on both arms before he leaves.......

He's on campus. So, I hope this is him saying "drafting me now won't bring enough $, so I'm staying"

[Commercecomet24]

He's on campus. So, I hope this is him saying "drafting me now won't bring enough $, so I'm staying"

This. He's been enrolled in summer school.

[ZedFedder]

He throws left handed to lefties and right handed to righties… but I’d love to let him throw one game right handed on Friday night and then bring him back Sunday and start as a lefty. I don’t see any reason why we couldn’t do that!

[ScoobaDawg]

He throws left handed to lefties and right handed to righties… but I’d love to let him throw one game right handed on Friday night and then bring him back Sunday and start as a lefty. I don’t see any reason why we couldn’t do that!

Ugh just no. we aren't gonna burn this guy to the ground like that.

[ZedFedder]

Ugh just no. we aren't gonna burn this guy to the ground like that.

If he throws with different arms, I don’t see how it would.

[ScoobaDawg]

KC hunt in the 12th to pirates at pick 350

[Randolph Dupree]

If he throws with different arms, I don’t see how it would.

The arm gets all the attention, but talk to guys that go on short rest and the legs are just as crucial.

[ScoobaDawg]

LSU just lost their transfer SS... from Baylor

[ScoobaDawg]

Fristoe to the Yanks in the 12th...pick 370

[Hambone]

Fristoe was one of my favorite players. I know he didn’t have a great year this year but the potential was through the roof.

[Commercecomet24]

The arm gets all the attention, but talk to guys that go on short rest and the legs are just as crucial.

Yep the legs and core are crucial without them the arm don't matter. All your power comes from the core and legs.

[somebodyshotmypaw]

Will be interesting to see if KC Hunt and Jackson Fristoe stay at MSU. It's almost guaranteed they leave in rounds 1-10. When drafted in rounds 11-20 it becomes a crapshoot.

[BrunswickDawg]

This draft has been interesting, and I think indicative of the changes to the minors. In the first 10 rounds roughly 50 HS kids were drafted vs. roughly 250 college players. That trend seems to have continued today.
With the reduction in MiL teams, MLB is going to want to spend less in player development and will really only be taking "sure thing" high school players and investing in international signees.
College Baseball will be the new A-AA baseball. I like it.

[msstate7]

This draft has been interesting, and I think indicative of the changes to the minors. In the first 10 rounds roughly 50 HS kids were drafted vs. roughly 250 college players. That trend seems to have continued today.
With the reduction in MiL teams, MLB is going to want to spend less in player development and will really only be taking "sure thing" high school players and investing in international signees.
College Baseball will be the new A-AA baseball. I like it.

I don't follow the draft at all anymore, but do they still draft a buncha college seniors in the top 10 rounds to save pool money and then draft guys in these rounds to go overslot?

[ScoobaDawg]

Thru 15... only lost Fristoe and Hunt so far.
5 minute break time...

[BeardoMSU]

Thru 15... only lost Fristoe and Hunt so far.
5 minute break time...

should we not expect them back?

[ScoobaDawg]

should we not expect them back?

I wouldn't expect Fristoe back... he needs some dedicated work to figure out his struggles. so talented.
KC is the question... would be great to get him back but who knows.

[SilentSteel16]

If he throws with different arms, I don?t see how it would.

Yeah, um that is not how that works….

[ScoobaDawg]

16th rd - Kamren James to TB - pick 494 - as a SS lol
He gone. Good luck Kam.

[ScoobaDawg]

Groff from Tulane is now what we are NOT wanting to see...

[Saltydog]

What's he get at that slot $15K........He could prolly get that in NIL money.........He'd be a fool not to come back.......

[ScoobaDawg]

What's he get at that slot $15K........He could prolly get that in NIL money.........He'd be a fool not to come back.......

There isn't slot money past 10th round.

[somebodyshotmypaw]

What's he get at that slot $15K........He could prolly get that in NIL money.........He'd be a fool not to come back.......

Doesn't everyone in rounds 11-20 have a $125,000 bonus limit per pick? Certainly you can offer less. I'm not sure. Maybe someone can clarify.

[Commercecomet24]

What's he get at that slot $15K........He could prolly get that in NIL money.........He'd be a fool not to come back.......

A dozen baseballs and a team logo bag, That's about it

[ScoobaDawg]

Brady neal lsu commit just drafted by KC in the 17th... interesting

[somebodyshotmypaw]

Doesn't everyone in rounds 11-20 have a $125,000 bonus limit per pick? Certainly you can offer less. I'm not sure. Maybe someone can clarify.

I found it on the internet. Players in rounds 11-20 can sign for up to $150,000 without counting against the team's bonus pool. If they sign for more than that, any amount over $150,000 counts against the team's bonus pool

[somebodyshotmypaw]

Justin Bench of Ole Miss just drafted by the Giants. For obvious reasons, I assumed the Reds would draft him.

[The Federalist Engineer]

I wouldn't expect Fristoe back... he needs some dedicated work to figure out his struggles. so talented.
KC is the question... would be great to get him back but who knows.

Now that JF is a pro, he will get a surgery and get right. No way he was helping MSU in 2023.

No way he went from Alex Lange 2.0 to what he became without an issue. He was even on the USA Collegiate Team a year ago.

[ScoobaDawg]

Well theres Jurrangelo Cijntje in the 18th round to the brewers... think we are safe though

[Coach34]

I expect James to return. He still has leverage and his supposed asking number is about 6 times higher than 150K

[Johnson85]

16th rd - Kamren James to TB - pick 494 - as a SS lol
He gone. Good luck Kam.

He may just be ready to move on, but you'd think for how little money he's going to get at that spot he'd be thinking about whether he will have more fun being in college next year or playing in the minors.

[somebodyshotmypaw]

Well theres Jurrangelo Cijntje in the 18th round to the brewers... think we are safe though

I think you've got the wrong player. The Brewers drafted a righthander. Our guy is a lefthander. Must be a different guy with the same name.

[ScoobaDawg]

I think you've got the wrong player. The Brewers drafted a righthander. Our guy is a lefthander. Must be a different guy with the same name.

Incorrect. He's listed as S/S meaning switch. Not sure what page ya looking at or following but im following here and the live audio
https://www.mlb.com/draft/tracker/2022/all/round/18

[somebodyshotmypaw]

Incorrect. He's listed as S/S meaning switch. Not sure what page ya looking at or following but im following here and the live audio
https://www.mlb.com/draft/tracker/2022/all/round/18

My joke fell flat.

[somebodyshotmypaw]

Matt Wyatt just got drafted. He's a little old, but good luck to him.

[ScoobaDawg]

Matt Wyatt just got drafted. He's a little old, but good luck to him.

Oh the fun of the what was it 40/50 round drafts... Nellie.. Snoop... Lebron James future kid...

[somebodyshotmypaw]

it's over. Kellum Clark and Groff did not get drafted.

[ScoobaDawg]

The draft is now over. Whew.

[ScoobaDawg]

Confirmed . He's staying

https://twitter.com/_LooCijntje/status/1549502310006620160

[maroonmania]

So basically, Mule and Knight could have essentially gotten the same money drafted in the 20th round as they will get going in the 9th round? I guess the only difference is they are more likely to get slot money in that 9th round than the full 150K in the 20th?

[The Federalist Engineer]

Confirmed . He's staying

https://twitter.com/_LooCijntje/status/1549502310006620160

By damn, we have an amphibian on the team. I will buy his Branded Amphibian hat. Todd should get a royalty for Amphibian TM.

Kam is going to be great next year if he returns. Huge returner because he and Luke can be the needed leaders.

[SilentSteel16]

I think with this years record and outcome plus the very late draft pick, James is going to be very very motivated and having taken a big bite of his humble pie, may yet become the leader we need him to be. I expect James to make a huge jump this year at whatever position he plays.

[KOdawg1]

Couldn't have asked for a better few days for our signing class. Loftin, Cijinte, Holcombe, Highfill, Jordan are all guys who could've gone in the top 5 rounds, but we're going to get them to campus.

I think Kam and KC could come back. Just depends how the money shakes out. Fristoe is likely gone and he needs to honestly. Hancock hopefully comes back now.

Bill knight getting drafted sucked, so now hopefully we pivot to a guy like Groff. Still need to land Skenes. That's our ace. Land those two and maybe another bullpen arm, and we're an Omaha team.

[ZedFedder]

I’d rather have Knight, but Groff would be a SOLID plan B.

[Homedawg]

I expect James to return. He still has leverage and his supposed asking number is about 6 times higher than 150K

I expect him to sign

[BeardoMSU]

Well theres Jurrangelo Cijntje in the 18th round to the brewers... think we are safe though


Confirmed . He's staying

https://twitter.com/_LooCijntje/status/1549502310006620160

Hell yeah!

[KOdawg1]

Sounds like the only player we had drafted that might come back is KC and he might go pro too.

[basedog]

Things are changing so fast with baseball; I think all the drafted Msu guys will take what is offered, not sure any would get much more money next year in the draft anyway.
Like I said, times are changing in sports.

[Commercecomet24]

Something to remember about guys drafted rounds 11-20. The most they can get is150k(last year it was 125k). Last year less than half of those players drafted got the full amount. Quite a few got as little as 20-30k. The average was about 75k. Just because mlb teams can pay as much as 150k doesn't mean they will.

[Coach34]

Something to remember about guys drafted rounds 11-20. The most they can get is150k(last year it was 125k). Last year less than half of those players drafted got the full amount. Quite a few got as little as 20-30k. The average was about 75k. Just because mlb teams can pay as much as 150k doesn't mean they will.

Exactly. That's why I'll be surprised if we lose all 4 of them.

[Coach34]

I expect him to sign

Then he really wants out of Sville

[somebodyshotmypaw]

Something to remember about guys drafted rounds 11-20. The most they can get is150k(last year it was 125k). Last year less than half of those players drafted got the full amount. Quite a few got as little as 20-30k. The average was about 75k. Just because mlb teams can pay as much as 150k doesn't mean they will.

Agreed Commerce. A lot of guys are only offered $25,000 take it or leave it. One note is that I think a team can pay over $150K. But if they do, any amount over the $150k counts toward the slot pool. So you would only offer over $150,000 to a round 11-20 player if you had left over slot money from rounds 1-10. But offering a round 11-20 player LESS than $150K does not give you extra money to spend elsewhere. I could be somewhat wrong on this, but it probably won't matter in the case of Hunt, Fristoe, and James anyway.

[Patrick Tibbons]

2.26mil slot value, but he won't get close to that. Congrats tho Lando. Go be great!

Nice call. He got $2,347,050. Almost $100k OVER slot.

[HoopsDawg]

Agreed Commerce. A lot of guys are only offered $25,000 take it or leave it. One note is that I think a team can pay over $150K. But if they do, any amount over the $150k counts toward the slot pool. So you would only offer over $150,000 to a round 11-20 player if you had left over slot money from rounds 1-10. But offering a round 11-20 player LESS than $150K does not give you extra money to spend elsewhere. I could be somewhat wrong on this, but it probably won't matter in the case of Hunt, Fristoe, and James anyway.

Teams can definitely pay more than 150K. Mari Boyd was an 11th rounder and just signed for 647,500.

[Coach34]

lol- James already has Tampa Bay Organization on his Twitter but no announcement of that paycheck he got....interesting

[Homedawg]

lol- James already has Tampa Bay Organization on his Twitter but no announcement of that paycheck he got....interesting

It will be announced. He's among several guys that signed that it says has agreed to terms, on mlb. But the amount isn't out yet. It will be. It's public knowledge

[Homedawg]

Teams can definitely pay more than 150K. Mari Boyd was an 11th rounder and just signed for 647,500.

If they paid him that, they have lost their minds.... he had zero leverage. Well, not true, he could have gone to juco.... but that's nuts. He can run like the wind... avg arm at best, .... below avg hitter and won't project to be above avg ever I don't even think avg. and same w power.
ETA forgot who drafted him. Phillies. Go figure.

[Commercecomet24]

Nice call. He got $2,347,050. Almost $100k OVER slot.

Yeah pretty much everyone knew he'd get a little over slot, well accept for one or two.

[Commercecomet24]

Teams can definitely pay more than 150K. Mari Boyd was an 11th rounder and just signed for 647,500.

They can but very very few teams do. in fact less than half the players even get the 150k. Most are gonna get 50-75k. Just go look at what guys in rounds 11-20 got in the last couple years.

[SilentSteel16]

Yeah pretty much everyone knew he'd get a little over slot, well accept for one or two.

Yeah the slot value was a minimum value for Sims. I talked directly to the head of SA for the Reds and he told me straight to my face that he didn’t think they could afford Sims at 32. They definitely wanted him and I was also told that LoTan would sign for anything 6 figures and check it out, he signed for less than slot value for his spot.

We have some pretty well connected people on here but we also have a lot of blowhards as well.

[SilentSteel16]

Considering they signed pick 18 at almost 2 million over slot they had to look elsewhere otherwise Sims would be in Reds organization along with LoTan.

[mparkerfd20]

Yeah pretty much everyone knew he'd get a little over slot, well accept for one or two.

Glad he did. I was wrong. Very happy for him.

[HoopsDawg]

12th rounder Jackson Fristoe signs for $272,500. Good for him!

[ScoobaDawg]

12th rounder Jackson Fristoe signs for $272,500. Good for him!

Yep really hope they can help him put it together... Got some special talent if he can get his head right

[Coach34]

Good for Jack. Hopefully they can get him straight

[HoopsDawg]

Josh Hatcher, 10th rounder, signs for $1,000. Damn.

[Homedawg]

Josh Hatcher, 10th rounder, signs for $1,000. Damn.

That's why they take him in that slot. To save 150k for another guy. He had no choice

[HoopsDawg]

That's why they take him in that slot. To save 150k for another guy. He had no choice

I know, but they could have thrown him a bone and given him 10K. I guess he can always say he was a 10th round draft pick.

[Homedawg]

I know, but they could have thrown him a bone and given him 10K. I guess he can always say he was a 10th round draft pick.

go look, there are lots of guys getting 2500 to sign. dodger's had at least two i know in the first 10 rounds.

[ZedFedder]

It feels like Skenes is the tipping point of whether this off-season is considered a major success vs just an okay one. And I don’t feel great about him.

[Commercecomet24]

go look, there are lots of guys getting 2500 to sign. dodger's had at least two i know in the first 10 rounds.

Yep just like every business they'll save a buck where they can.

[Pancho]

It feels like Skenes is the tipping point of whether this off-season is considered a major success vs just an okay one. And I don’t feel great about him.

Why not?

[Saltydog]

Why not?

Because he hasn't committed and is taking ov's to other programs.........That sure doesn't give me the warm/fuzzy.........