Tennessee Catcher tested hot for PEDs.

[Pinto]

Hmmmm

[StarkVegasSteve]

This is least surprising thing to come out of the first day of the tournament. The only surprising thing is that he was the only one caught.

[msstate7]

Lol

Is there a rule where more players are tested when one player fails?

[TNDawg35]

He ain’t the only one…

[StarkVegasSteve]

Lol

Is there a rule where more players are tested when one player fails?

Rumor is they all are being tested tomorrow before their game. I will probably tune in and watch now. If they play really tight or start pressing I think we will have our answer on if there will be more positives. The funny thing is I can say I considered this an almost automatic guarantee that they would either be popped for PEDs or juiced bats before the tourney was over. And usually with PEDs, it is not an isolated incident.

[TNDawg35]

Rumor is they all are being tested tomorrow before their game. I will probably tune in and watch now. If they play really tight or start pressing I think we will have our answer on if there will be more positives. The funny thing is I can say I considered this an almost automatic guarantee that they would either be popped for PEDs or juiced bats before the tourney was over. And usually with PEDs, it is not an isolated incident.

Bats have to be thoroughly tested before Omaha. There is a reason they went 0-2 last year when they got to that big stadium. They are doing nothing more than what Arkansas used to do when he was there. However Ark picked and chooses wknds they used them. TN used them the whole damn season. There is a reason they had like 40 more home runs than the 2nd nearest team…

[basedog]

Lol

Is there a rule where more players are tested when one player fails?

You still say he is best coach in NCAA?

[confucius say]

Link? Confirmed it's ped?

[Santiago]

How long does it take to flush out and not be detected? Just wondering if the other players tested tomorrow have time to get out of system, or does it take weeks to get out

[msstate7]

You still say he is best coach in NCAA?

Yes, his results are outstanding. If it's proven he's cheated to get them, then yeah, I'll have to re-evaluate

[Santiago]

Yes, his results are outstanding. If it's proven he's cheated to get them, then yeah, I'll have to re-evaluate

So far overall.... 0-2 in Omaha for him.

[msstate7]

So far overall.... 0-2 in Omaha for him.

Yeah, that's sucks. The fact he took over a Tenn program that hadn't been in a regional in 14 years though, makes it impressive as hell he made it to the CWS. He followed that up with an sec championship. Now we gotta see how this season turns out

[Commercecomet24]

I'm not surprised by this at all. He probably won't be the only one.

[Commercecomet24]

Yeah, that's sucks. The fact he took over a Tenn program that hadn't been in a regional in 14 years though, makes it impressive as hell he made it to the CWS. He followed that up with an sec championship. Now we gotta see how this season turns out

If they don't win it all I think you would
have to classify this team as the biggest under achievers of all time. They've got a lot of pressure on them to win it all. Now conversely if they win it all they may go down as arguably the greatest college team of all time.

[msstate7]

If they don't win it all I think you would
have to classify this team as the biggest under achievers of all time. They've got a lot of pressure on them to win it all. Now conversely if they win it all they may go down as arguably the greatest college team of all time.

I think baseball playoffs (mlb and college) are a crap shoot. I think you should be judged as a coach on how you position yourself to succeed in the postseason more than how you actually do there. For example, I don't think the brave or state were the best teams in their league last year, but they got hot when it counted... I don't think lemonis or snit flipped that hot switch.

ETA... now if you lose in a regional/division series every year after being great all year, then yeah, that should me a mark against you

[SilentSteel16]

Almost sounds like Hugh Freeze and Ole Miss ……….

[Santiago]

Yeah, that's sucks. The fact he took over a Tenn program that hadn't been in a regional in 14 years though, makes it impressive as hell he made it to the CWS. He followed that up with an sec championship. Now we gotta see how this season turns out

So far, he sounds like Bianco in that regard*** He is a good coach, but something this year about his team is odd in the numbers they are putting up.

[Commercecomet24]

I think baseball playoffs (mlb and college) are a crap shoot. I think you should be judged as a coach on how you position yourself to succeed in the postseason more than how you actually do there. For example, I don't think the brave or state were the best teams in their league last year, but they got hot when it counted... I don't think lemonis or snit flipped that hot switch.

ETA... now if you lose in a regional/division series every year after being great all year, then yeah, that should me a mark against you

Maybe but you're still judged on winning championships. Winning a championship declares you as the best team that year regardless. Now if you want to say the most talented may not win it that's another story but the team that wins the NC is by definition the best team.

ETA Lemonis and Snits decision making put their teams in position to win a championship.

[basedog]

Maybe but you're still judged on winning championships. Winning a championship declares you as the best team that year regardless. Now if you want to say the most talented may not win it that's another story but the team that wins the NC is by definition the best team.

ETA Lemonis and Snits decision making put their teams in position to win a championship.

I agree. No way would I say he is best coach, one or two years they have been good. There is no team gonna dominate in the Sec, it’s way too competitive with a bunch of good teams and programs. Cheating is just a short cut to success, time will tell and maybe Tn will be exposed now.

[Homedawg]

I think baseball playoffs (mlb and college) are a crap shoot. I think you should be judged as a coach on how you position yourself to succeed in the postseason more than how you actually do there. For example, I don't think the brave or state were the best teams in their league last year, but they got hot when it counted... I don't think lemonis or snit flipped that hot switch.

ETA... now if you lose in a regional/division series every year after being great all year, then yeah, that should me a mark against you

So Bianco is great.... until he's not...

[msstate7]

So Bianco is great.... until he's not...

I think he's a good coach, who was really good. Was Polk bad, good, or great?

[basedog]

Polk was better than Bianco who is a good coach. Great is for Coaches like Saban, it's about championships for elites.

[Commercecomet24]

Polk was better than Bianco who is a good coach. Great is for Coaches like Saban, it's about championships for elites.

This. Only way to judge greatness is championships. If you don't win em you're good not great. That's how success is measured. Lot of good coaches out there who just don't have that little extra to be great.

[confucius say]

Polk went to Omaha 8 times I believe. With 3 different programs. That puts him in a different class than bianco, who is good too.

[Coach34]

Polk was The Goat as far as program building- he showed everybody else how to do it. All the things that had to be included besides in-game coaching
He recruited well but so many times his teams lacked in an area that never would allow him to win a title
Very good coach but the lack of a title hurts him tremendously. He's Marv Levy

[msstate7]

This. Only way to judge greatness is championships. If you don't win em you're good not great. That's how success is measured. Lot of good coaches out there who just don't have that little extra to be great.

So Gary Gilmore (coastal Carolina) is a better coach than Polk? Not sure I buy that

[Coach34]

When has the NCAA only tested 1 player? Something isnt right about this story

[basedog]

Polk was The Goat as far as program building- he showed everybody else how to do it. All the things that had to be included besides in-game coaching
He recruited well but so many times his teams lacked in an area that never would allow him to win a title
Very good coach but the lack of a title hurts him tremendously. He's Marv Levy

I agree! Well thought out post. Like ur take "Goat" on building a program.

[msstate7]

Polk was The Goat as far as program building- he showed everybody else how to do it. All the things that had to be included besides in-game coaching
He recruited well but so many times his teams lacked in an area that never would allow him to win a title
Very good coach but the lack of a title hurts him tremendously. He's Marv Levy

Marc levy is football, and I'd say the best football wins it all much more often than the best baseball team.

[Homedawg]

When has the NCAA only tested 1 player? Something isnt right about this story

They don't. It's several that get randomly tested at regionals and supers.

[msstate7]

They don't. It's several that get randomly tested at regionals and supers.

Could've been just 1 Tenn player though, right?

[Maroonthirteen]

Almost sounds like Hugh Freeze and Ole Miss ???.


You nailed it. They def have that DB, cheating, cocky vibe.

I knew they were juicing. It's so obvious.

[Commercecomet24]

So Gary Gilmore (coastal Carolina) is a better coach than Polk? Not sure I buy that

I said championships(plural). You can win one and still be a good but not great coach. You win more than one you could enter that great category. Success is measured by championships that's just the way it is. There's obviously other things that would make one a good coach, program building, recruiting, etc but to be judged elite you have to win the big one.

[Coach34]

So Gary Gilmore (coastal Carolina) is a better coach than Polk? Not sure I buy that

He was more successful than Polk....He was not as good over his career

The title matters but you also have to look at other things. Dan Marino never won a title but is probably the best passer in NFL history. Trent Dilfer won a title.

[msstate7]

I said championships(plural). You can win one and still be a good but not great coach. You win more than one you could enter that great category. Success is measured by championships that's just the way it is. There's obviously other things that would make one a good coach, program building, recruiting, etc but to be judged elite you have to win the big one.

So where you rate Bobby cox with just 1?

[Coach34]

Could've been just 1 Tenn player though, right?

No- they test multiple players on each team

[BrunswickDawg]

So where you rate Bobby cox with just 1?

I'm all Braves, but Bobby was arguably the best "in season" manager of all time, and arguably the worst "post season" manager of all time.

[msstate7]

No- they test multiple players on each team

Then that sorta throws out the rampant juicing allegation

[Coach34]

So where you rate Bobby cox with just 1?

I rate him as shitty winning 1 with a Hall of Fame pitching staff. Bobby Cox rates somewhere around Art Howe as a manager. At least Art Howe could hit

[Commercecomet24]

So where you rate Bobby cox with just 1?

I love Bobby and he's a Hall of Famer and it hurts me he didn't win more titles but he'll go down in history as a manager who should've won more titles but didn't close the deal. He got out managed in some of them. Just the way it is. To be the MAN you have to win when it counts. That's my opinion and if yours is different that's fine but I judge players and coaches on winning championships but that's just me.

[OLJWales]

STATE players tested positive for AIDS & Monkey Pox due to playing Jack Proned & Bent all year. "They shoulda taken the ROIDS man!" (Chong reference)

[msstate7]

I'm all Braves, but Bobby was arguably the best "in season" manager of all time, and arguably the worst "post season" manager of all time.

Im baseball, im always gonna go with the bigger sample. I think regular season is a much better indication of a team's ability than the postseason. You'll never convince me the braves were better than the dodgers last season, but they were in those 6 games though... think it was 6

[Commercecomet24]

I'm all Braves, but Bobby was arguably the best "in season" manager of all time, and arguably the worst "post season" manager of all time.

I love Bobby but I agree completely

[Cowbell]

Yes, his results are outstanding. If it's proven he's cheated to get them, then yeah, I'll have to re-evaluate

People thought Hughe Freezus was outstanding too. Outstanding is winning a Nattie

[msstate7]

People thought Hughe Freezus was outstanding too. Outstanding is winning a Nattie

So if Tenn wins it this year, he's the best, right? Turning a dumpster fire into back-to-back CWS, sec champs, and a natty

ETA... and jimbo is at worst the 3rd best coach in the sec. Natties trump everything

[StarkVegasSteve]

Apparently the entire TN team will be tested tomorrow so things may get interesting.

[msstate7]

Apparently the entire TN team will be tested tomorrow so things may get interesting.

It would be so hilarious if they lost half the team

[Commercecomet24]

So if Tenn wins it this year, he's the best, right? Turning a dumpster fire into back-to-back CWS, sec champs, and a natty

With the records they've set this year and if they win NC he won't be the best but he certainly moves up the ranks(provided they're not busted for something). Gonna take a lot for anyone to catch Rod Dedeaux as GOAT.

[Coach34]

It would be so hilarious if they lost half the team

They had multiple guys tested today. You can bet they have a Dr working right now to help them beat the test

[Homedawg]

Could've been just 1 Tenn player though, right?

No. Several off of each team.

[Homedawg]

Apparently the entire TN team will be tested tomorrow so things may get interesting.

I don't believe that. There is no precedent for that.

[Coach34]

With the records they've set this year and if they win NC he won't be the best but he certainly moves up the ranks(provided they're not busted for something). Gonna take a lot for anyone to catch Rod Dedeaux as GOAT.

Bertman > Dedeaux. Bertman did it in a tougher era
Just like Saban > Bryant or Rockne
Phil Jackson > Red
Belichek > Walsh or Noll...altho maybe if Walsh hadnt burned out things might be different

[Lord McBuckethead]

It would be so hilarious if they lost half the team

Especially if the lost 4 starting pitchers, maybe their entire weekend group and lost in the supers. Just liked I called a week ago. Can?t wait to answer back those tweet responses I got.

[Commercecomet24]

Bertman > Dedeaux. Bertman did it in a tougher era
Just like Saban > Bryant or Rockne
Phil Jackson > Red
Belichek > Walsh or Noll...altho maybe if Walsh hadnt burned out things might be different

Different era maybe but Dedeaux was an innovator and won 11 titles, he almost literally wrote the book on how to build a championship college baseball program. I'll still take Rod with Skip as close second. I agree 100% with your other coaching rankings though.

[Activated Alpha]

Different era maybe but Dedeaux was an innovator and won 11 titles, he almost literally wrote the book on how to build a championship college baseball program. I'll still take Rod with Skip as close second. I agree 100% with your other coaching rankings though.

Croom > Saban. I still watch the replay of the 107 yard TD interception....

[CaptainObvious]

Croom > Saban. I still watch the replay of the 107 yard TD interception....

Croom is the last State coach to beat Alabama. Therefore Croom is better than Mullen, Morehead, and Leach. 😂😂😂

[Leroy Jenkins]

https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/49775952/i-am-jacks-complete-lack-of-surprise.jpg



He ain?t the only one?

[dawgoneyall]

This......

[OLJWales]

Croom > Saban. I still watch the replay of the 107 yard TD interception....

Kept dat epic shit saved a while in my porn stash. Johnson in one hand, remote in the other. It's one of those that lasts longer too. Unfortunately time eventually revealed she was too good to be true and the lust wained.

[OLJWales]

People thought Hughe Freezus was outstanding too. Outstanding is winning a Nattie

Not winning a Natty at Fighters for Slavery U shouldn't be a knock. Dude may do weird shit like holding a Bible in one hand while dialing for dates in the other & coaching from stadium breezeways in a hospital bed but the SumBitch can flat out coach.

[DownwardDawg]

Not winning a Natty at Fighters for Slavery U shouldn't be a knock. Dude may do weird shit like holding a Bible in one hand while dialing for dates in the other & coaching from stadium breezeways in a hospital bed but the SumBitch can flat out coach.

Somehow, cheating your ass off to sign top recruits gets confused with being a good coach.

[Saltydog]

UT says ESPN will issue apology today for Elklund's comments......We will see......

https://www.tennessean.com/story/sports/college/university-of-tennessee/other-sports/2022/06/04/evan-russell-espn-announcers-ped-tennessee-baseball-troy-eklund/7512213001/

[Todd4State]

Bertman > Dedeaux. Bertman did it in a tougher era
Just like Saban > Bryant or Rockne
Phil Jackson > Red
Belichek > Walsh or Noll...altho maybe if Walsh hadnt burned out things might be different

I think the 49ers win at least the Super Bowl in 1990 with Walsh as their coach. And may have gone undefeated in 1989.

[mparkerfd20]

UT says ESPN will issue apology today for Elklund's comments......We will see......

https://www.tennessean.com/story/sports/college/university-of-tennessee/other-sports/2022/06/04/evan-russell-espn-announcers-ped-tennessee-baseball-troy-eklund/7512213001/

Someone got paid big to stfu and look the other way.

[FISHDAWG]

Croom is the last State coach to beat Alabama. Therefore Croom is better than Mullen, Morehead, and Leach. 😂😂😂

Not to mention he beat Bama back to back

[Coach34]

As expected- this was a BS story and Tenn rolls on.

[Pinto]

Wrong again.

It?s a story. It?s just being kept big time quiet for some reason.
1) What coach finds out his starting catcher is ?sick? the morning of a regional and doesn?t call him.
2) No medical statement, even vague, has come out.
3) Tenn immediately went into the Freeze bully mode playbook. Trying to discredit everyone and call for apologies, while having nothing of substance to diffuse the situation.

We will never know the true story on all this but to dismiss it is foolish.


As expected- this was a BS story and Tenn rolls on.

[Activated Alpha]

Wrong again.

It?s a story. It?s just being kept big time quiet for some reason.
1) What coach finds out his starting catcher is ?sick? the morning of a regional and doesn?t call him.
2) No medical statement, even vague, has come out.
3) Tenn immediately went into the Freeze bully mode playbook. Trying to discredit everyone and call for apologies, while having nothing of substance to diffuse the situation.

We will never know the true story on all this but to dismiss it is foolish.

So basically nothing will come of this which means it is a big nothing burger type story. Whatever happened to all those other players that were "tested?" I hatefully want TN to lose, but would love for them to lose to Campbell or ND as well as being on PEDs.

[Coach34]

Wrong again. It?s a story. It?s just being kept big time quiet for some reason.

1) What coach finds out his starting catcher is ?sick? the morning of a regional and doesn?t call him.
2) No medical statement, even vague, has come out.
3) Tenn immediately went into the Freeze bully mode playbook. Trying to discredit everyone and call for apologies, while having nothing of substance to diffuse the situation.

We will never know the true story on all this but to dismiss it is foolish.

Too funny. The NCAA tests. If players fail the test? They are removed.

1. Nobody talks on the phone anymore. I'd be more surprised had he talked to him on the phone.
2. Why would a medical statement come out? He said he was sick.
3. Why wouldnt they? If someone had tested positive- it would have been announced. There is no announcement and all their guys are playing except for the sick player. Dont be surprised if he doesnt play today or tomorrow. If there was real evidence ESPN wouldnt be apologizing

[Pinto]

1)So you wouldn?t call your catcher to see what?s wrong? Just text go see team physician? That?s a pathetic coach and human.
2) It?s called PR and getting out in front of a story. If it was my son, I would demand it be released.
3) When and where has ESPN apologized?


Too funny. The NCAA tests. If players fail the test? They are removed.

1. Nobody talks on the phone anymore. I'd be more surprised had he talked to him on the phone.
2. Why would a medical statement come out? He said he was sick.
3. Why wouldnt they? If someone had tested positive- it would have been announced. There is no announcement and all their guys are playing except for the sick player. Dont be surprised if he doesnt play today or tomorrow. If there was real evidence ESPN wouldnt be apologizing

[Coach34]

1)
3) When and where has ESPN apologized?

https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/tennessee-football/espn-announcer-troy-eklund-apologizes-on-air-for-what-he-said-about-evan-russell/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/colleges/espn-announcer-apologizes-for-comment-about-vols-catcher/2022/06/04/b12900da-e431-11ec-ae64-6b23e5155b62_story.html

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/more-sports/espn-announcer-apologizes-for-claiming-tennessee-baseball-player-had-failed-a-drug-test/ar-AAY58GY?ocid=uxbndlbing

https://nypost.com/2022/06/05/espns-troy-eklund-apologizes-after-evan-russell-drug-test-claim/

[Coach34]

1)So you wouldn?t call your catcher to see what?s wrong? Just text go see team physician? That?s a pathetic coach and human.


No. People text constantly and can explain anything they want in those messages. Especially people like coaches that deal with soooo many people constantly.

Catcher- "Coach I'm throwing up and feel like shit. I'm not sure I can play today"

Coach- "Go see Doc asap and let me know immediately whats going on and what the plan is. Hope you feel better dude."- whats "pathetic" about that?

[Coach34]

and just like that- Russell is catching tonight for Tennessee

[OLJWales]

and just like that- Russell is catching tonight for Tennessee

And the man hated the most in Grenada without a Lake known as 34 silences his own crowd. Nice call man. I never woulda thunk it.

[FISHDAWG]

yep - crickets ..... but let him be a little off on something and it's like - Hey yall ... Russia has invaded Ukraine !!!

[Pinto]

They are saying the kid had mental Heath issues. Which makes my first and second points even more valid.
Either way terrible PR job by Tenn. And yes, I still think they juice, roll bats, cheat, etc. Just a trash club and now university after the football incident and now this:

https://twitter.com/bigdonkey47/status/1533638839205613568?s=21&t=-t3TW8h8MLtIXKhuIlCfmg

[Fader21]

I still remember where I was when we got that pick 6. I was in the restroom under the student section. I really thought the stadium was about to cave in on me.

[FISHDAWG]

I still remember where I was when we got that pick 6. I was in the restroom under the student section. I really thought the stadium was about to cave in on me.

I was in a Taco Mac in Macon, Ga - almost choked on a Buffalo wing

[Tripp McNeely]

I was in a Taco Mac in Macon, Ga - almost choked on a Buffalo wing

I was sitting in DWS next to my Alabama fan ex-wife trying to be an ass and scream my fool head off...man I wish that I'd have been more of an ass