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BrunswickDawg
05-22-2022, 09:23 PM
https://twitter.com/psltoflushing/status/1528531808354197509?s=21&t=SQs3dgJ2WMbTtfXIvi8-rw

Commercecomet24
05-22-2022, 09:42 PM
Good for Jake! One more step!

Cowbell
05-22-2022, 10:00 PM
But people here say he has no change in the big leagues....

msstate7
05-22-2022, 10:22 PM
But people here say he has no change in the big leagues....

I'd say very little chance. Mets have 4 guys (nimmo, marte, cahna, and janokowski) that can play cf on the roster. Jake is 26 also, which is pretty old.

Tater
05-22-2022, 10:25 PM
I'd say very little chance. Mets have 4 guys (nimmo, marte, cahna, and janokowski) that can play cf on the roster. Jake is 26 also, which is pretty old.

Mets also had 2 guys with Cy Young stuff coming into the season and another making a hell of a debut. Along with Bassit.

We get so many injuries that I won't be surprised if Jake is in the Big Leagues by the ASB. A logjam at any position on the Mets is nothing that will keep someone out of the Majors.

Jake always struck me as AAAA potential if he found enough power with wooden bats. Seems that he has.

Todd4State
05-23-2022, 12:02 AM
But people here say he has no change in the big leagues....

I think he has a chance but he hasn't quite made it. Getting closer though! Congrats Jake!

Todd4State
05-23-2022, 12:03 AM
I'd say very little chance. Mets have 4 guys (nimmo, marte, cahna, and janokowski) that can play cf on the roster. Jake is 26 also, which is pretty old.

Jake's arm is good enough to play RF or LF adequately in a fourth OF role. He can also pinch hit, pinch run, and bunt. Really the only thing he doesn't have a ton of is home run power.

msstate7
05-23-2022, 06:07 AM
Jake's arm is good enough to play RF or LF adequately in a fourth OF role. He can also pinch hit, pinch run, and bunt. Really the only thing he doesn't have a ton of is home run power.

Khalil lee and nick Plummer are OFers in AAA also. Both are rated higher than jake, and both are on the 40-man roster. For Jake to be promoted, the Mets would have to add him to the 40-man roster, and to do that, they'd have to DFA or trade someone. Again, it's very unlikely that they if a spot comes open in NY that they don't use lee or Plummer first.

ETA... I'm a braves fan, so I'd love to see the Mets end up using their 3rd AAA OF at the mlb level. I just don't see it. If the Mets do have this level of injuries, they're a contender, so they'd almost certainly just trade for an mlb guy

MaroonFlounder
05-23-2022, 07:48 AM
Most prospects with staying power go straight to the show from AA.

I love Mangum, but you can populate a new country with AAA prospects that never made it that next step. And a handful of "rehab assignments" for true MLB guys on the mend.

AAA is where players go and play out several frustrating years knowing they are just not quite good enough. Many of them become coaches, which is what I hope Jake does someday back in StarkVegas.

That said, I hope I see him in the show and making a play or 2. No matter what, he's a SEC legend.

Todd4State
05-23-2022, 07:54 AM
Khalil lee and nick Plummer are OFers in AAA also. Both are rated higher than jake, and both are on the 40-man roster. For Jake to be promoted, the Mets would have to add him to the 40-man roster, and to do that, they'd have to DFA or trade someone. Again, it's very unlikely that they if a spot comes open in NY that they don't use lee or Plummer first.

ETA... I'm a braves fan, so I'd love to see the Mets end up using their 3rd AAA OF at the mlb level. I just don't see it. If the Mets do have this level of injuries, they're a contender, so they'd almost certainly just trade for an mlb guy

I'm not sure either one of those players is significantly better than Jake. Lee was hitting below the Mendoza Line at AAA and Plummer was a six year minor league free agent who is only a year younger than Jake.

msstate7
05-23-2022, 08:15 AM
I'm not sure either one of those players is significantly better than Jake. Lee was hitting below the Mendoza Line at AAA and Plummer was a six year minor league free agent who is only a year younger than Jake.

Lee is 23, and he's played in mlb last year. He started in A ball this year, so that tells me he was coming off an injury.

Plummer is older like Jake, but he's one of the Mets' top 10 prospects (Jake is 22nd) and he's on the 40-man. I suppose jake's best shot is passing Plummer

smootness
05-23-2022, 08:58 AM
I really hope he at least gets a chance on an MLB bench at some point, he'll definitely work as hard as he possibly can to get there.

His issue is that he K's way too much for a guy with his offensive profile. He's gotten a little better about getting his walks but still doesn't do it a ton and without much power either, he will have to be a clear .300+ guy to make it. To be that, he would have to significantly cut his K's. He is repeating AA this year and has actually been a little worse than last year. That and his age are not a good sign for his chances. But he's now only one step away, so we'll see and I hope he gets there.

DownwardDawg
05-23-2022, 11:25 AM
Where is JT Ginn these days?

The Federalist Engineer
05-23-2022, 11:44 AM
Where is JT Ginn these days?

AA

https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=ginn--000jt-

ScoobaDawg
05-23-2022, 11:52 AM
Where is JT Ginn these days?

traded to Oakland. Down in Midland TX with their AA team the Roukhounds. Looks like he K'd 7 in 3.2 in his debut but struggled since. currently on 7 day Injured list for 2nd time this month.
https://www.milb.com/player/j-t-ginn-669372?stats=gamelogs-r-pitching-mlb&year=2022

Homedawg
05-23-2022, 12:02 PM
Where is JT Ginn these days?

Jt has another arm issue, is the word. Hoping it's minor.

ScoobaDawg
05-23-2022, 12:04 PM
Jt has another arm issue, is the word. Hoping it's minor.

Looks like he might be pitching tonight. Hope he gets it together whatever it is.

DownwardDawg
05-23-2022, 03:27 PM
Thanks for the reply guys. I know I could have googled it but been so busy these days it's easier to get all my information right here.

Yim Yames
05-23-2022, 03:37 PM
Most prospects with staying power go straight to the show from AA.

That's not really true anymore. Almost all top prospects go through AAA. I agree with your main point though, which is that Jake is likely more of a AAAA player than a major leaguer. I do think he will get the call at some point in his career though. Hopefully this year when rosters expand.

msstate7
05-23-2022, 03:45 PM
That's not really true anymore. Almost all top prospects go through AAA. I agree with your main point though, which is that Jake is likely more of a AAAA player than a major leaguer. I do think he will get the call at some point in his career though. Hopefully this year when rosters expand.

Rosters only expand to 28 now, right?

Todd4State
05-25-2022, 12:32 AM
Rosters only expand to 28 now, right?

Yeah. They did away with the 40 man rosters in September.

Todd4State
05-25-2022, 12:33 AM
I really hope he at least gets a chance on an MLB bench at some point, he'll definitely work as hard as he possibly can to get there.

His issue is that he K's way too much for a guy with his offensive profile. He's gotten a little better about getting his walks but still doesn't do it a ton and without much power either, he will have to be a clear .300+ guy to make it. To be that, he would have to significantly cut his K's. He is repeating AA this year and has actually been a little worse than last year. That and his age are not a good sign for his chances. But he's now only one step away, so we'll see and I hope he gets there.

Jake is unusual because he is a leadoff hitter that is a bit of a free swinger and thus he doesn't walk a lot. Mangum started off slow but he was really hot this last month. That's the way baseball is sometimes. All about making adjustments.

smootness
05-25-2022, 11:00 AM
Jake is unusual because he is a leadoff hitter that is a bit of a free swinger and thus he doesn't walk a lot. Mangum started off slow but he was really hot this last month. That's the way baseball is sometimes. All about making adjustments.

It was more about his BABIP jumping to .440 since May 1. That will come back down, and unless he makes some pretty significant improvements, he'll continue to be what he's been - passable, perhaps up to solid, with real flaws. His BB rate is fine where it's been this year, he needs to maintain that and bring his K rate down to at least around 15%. If he can do that, he can hit somewhere around .290 with a mid-.700's OPS and give himself a shot to play some role in the majors.

The Federalist Engineer
05-26-2022, 10:39 PM
I think he has a chance but he hasn't quite made it. Getting closer though! Congrats Jake!

Hey Todd- how true is this? "AA is the hardest level to breakthrough"

If you can't be a major leaguer, you will be cut in AA. No reason to promote into a precious AAA roster spot.

CaptainObvious
05-26-2022, 11:10 PM
My understanding was that they will move you up to AAA for 2 reasons.

1) Preparing to trade a high priced MLB starter guy that needs a change of scenery.
2) Parking the proverbial ?Player to be named later? in a trade deal because you have too many at his spot and he is more valuable in that trade spot while he has developed and needs to continue to work.

By the way, Jake now has 5 hits in his first 2 AAA games. Not bad for a cookie cutter ball player.

MafiaDawg
05-27-2022, 07:59 AM
Yall just keep doubting him.

viverlibre
05-27-2022, 10:01 AM
Jake is unusual because he is a leadoff hitter that is a bit of a free swinger and thus he doesn't walk a lot. Mangum started off slow but he was really hot this last month. That's the way baseball is sometimes. All about making adjustments.


True that, Jake never met a pitch he didn't like!

Bothrops
05-27-2022, 03:26 PM
That dude is a competitor. No so many left anymore.

msstate7
05-28-2022, 06:49 PM
Plummer promoted to mlb Mets

msstate7
05-29-2022, 09:41 PM
Plummer promoted to mlb Mets

He just tied the game on a 112 mph rocket off Phillies closer