My top three disappointing teams

[basedog]

Here you go:

3) 1989, we were #1 most of the year, we were loaded with depth and talent only to lose on Sunday in the regional at the Dudy to North Carolina. I think we had 6 total losses for the year!

2) 1985, 4 major league all-stars, a wicked shot off the bat into Gene Morgan's leg pretty much cost us Natty.

1) 2022, season isn't officially over but it seems to be over. After winning a Natty, celebrating like it was going out of style, injuries to our pitching staff plus the high expectations with "most of the line-up back except pitchers, we have been so inconsistent and total flop thinking we would make another run to Omaha!

[Homedawg]

Here you go:

3) 1989, we were #1 most of the year, we were loaded with depth and talent only to lose on Sunday in the regional at the Dudy to North Carolina. I think we had 6 total losses for the year!

2) 1985, 4 major league all-stars, a wicked shot off the bat into Gene Morgan's leg pretty much cost us Natty.

1) 2022, season isn't officially over but it seems to be over. After winning a Natty, celebrating like it was going out of style, injuries to our pitching staff plus the high expectations with "most of the line-up back except pitchers, we have been so inconsistent and total flop thinking we would make another run to Omaha!
89 was 54-14 but the point remains that one stung.

[msstate7]

This is baseball, but 2018 football is easily the most disappointing of all state teams. I love mullen, but I'm really disappointed he left such a great team

[Quaoarsking]

Let's add 2006 baseball, which was ranked #1 early in the season, but missed Hoover. We did actually make the NCAA Tournament anyway though.

[Commercecomet24]

89 was 54-14 but the point remains that one stung.

Man I still have nightmares about that. I was at every game of that regional and still can't believe we lost.

[Saltydog]

I still say the '89 team is the best team in school history. Yeah, I know they didn't make the cws yada, yada but they were nasty. Tommy Raffo, Pete Young, Jody Hurst, Winford bros, Richie Grayum, Brad Hildreth, Cohen, Burke Masters, Tracy Echols, Jon Shave, Bobby Reed, Tracy Jobes, Chris George, Chuck Daniel, Rob Norman, Chuck Holley. Turn around and made the CWS the following year but that team was not as good as the '89.

[basedog]

I still say the '89 team is the best team in school history. Yeah, I know they didn't make the cws yada, yada but they were nasty. Tommy Raffo, Pete Young, Jody Hurst, Winford bros, Richie Grayum, Brad Hildreth, Cohen, Burke Masters, Tracy Echols, Jon Shave, Bobby Reed, Tracy Jobes, Chris George, Chuck Daniel, Rob Norman, Chuck Holley. Turn around and made the CWS the following year but that team was not as good as the '89.

I think so as well, the lineup could swing the bat, seems like 1-9 all hit .300 or better. Bobby Reed was a true ace and Chris George was very good as well. Depth was the best ever probably.

[OLJWales]

This is baseball, but 2018 football is easily the most disappointing of all state teams. I love mullen, but I'm really disappointed he left such a great team

God only knows what a coach with half a brain coulda done. Mullen & STATE Fans will regret his hasty departure fo a while.

[Homedawg]

I still say the '89 team is the best team in school history. Yeah, I know they didn't make the cws yada, yada but they were nasty. Tommy Raffo, Pete Young, Jody Hurst, Winford bros, Richie Grayum, Brad Hildreth, Cohen, Burke Masters, Tracy Echols, Jon Shave, Bobby Reed, Tracy Jobes, Chris George, Chuck Daniel, Rob Norman, Chuck Holley. Turn around and made the CWS the following year but that team was not as good as the '89.

Best lineup and it's not even close. Pitching wasnt deep. That was Achilles heel.

[OLJWales]

I still say the '89 team is the best team in school history. Yeah, I know they didn't make the cws yada, yada but they were nasty. Tommy Raffo, Pete Young, Jody Hurst, Winford bros, Richie Grayum, Brad Hildreth, Cohen, Burke Masters, Tracy Echols, Jon Shave, Bobby Reed, Tracy Jobes, Chris George, Chuck Daniel, Rob Norman, Chuck Holley. Turn around and made the CWS the following year but that team was not as good as the '89.

Somebody remind me. Wasn't this the team that beat the Huskies and Jody Hurst Scaled the Left Field Foul Pole? I was there.

[Coach34]

a look at the 1989 team:

https://www.thebaseballcube.com/content/stats/college~1989~20147/

[PGHBulldogBG]

This is baseball, but 2018 football is easily the most disappointing of all state teams. I love mullen, but I'm really disappointed he left such a great team

If we had just hired an average coach we win 10 that year and get to a NY6 bowl. A good coach probably playoff

[ImissCityBagel]

2018 JoMo

[Leeshouldveflanked]

2018 JoMo was loaded with talent. 2022 baseball has very little talent.

[Bothrops]

This is baseball, but 2018 football is easily the most disappointing of all state teams. I love mullen, but I'm really disappointed he left such a great team

He'll always be an asshole to me for that. But hey, karma is a bitch because the decision ended up ending his career.

[Schultzy]

1984

Nobody ever talks about this team that coulda won it all but got beat at home in the finals in a regional when Clark & Palmeiro were sophomores and had a damn good shortstop I think his name was Bob Parker.

[Schultzy]

Best lineup and it's not even close. Pitching wasnt deep. That was Achilles heel.

This is why I say Lemonis isn’t given enough credit. He won a National Championship last year with an an average lineup but with some incredible pitching performances.

He did get it done when he had the players to do it when no one else has.

ETA Kellum Clark, Tanner Allen & others got timely hits where this years team just hasn’t.

[Todd4State]

Here's my thing about baseball in general:

It's really hard to win at a high level. There are so many things that can go wrong on any given day.

1984, 1989, and 2016- all probably should have been in Omaha. Those 1980's teams ended up essentially finishing the equivalent of a Super Regional today.

Our 2021 team IMO wasn't as good as our 2019 team. 1985 was probably the best team in that field that year.

It's like that in MLB too.

So as far as MSU baseball if we make a Super Regional I consider it a good year.

[Todd4State]

2018 JoMo was loaded with talent. 2022 baseball has very little talent.

We have at least one maybe two first round picks on our team in Landon Sims and Logan Tanner. Besides them, most of our team is going to get drafted in the first 10 rounds.

More than anything injuries have killed us with baseball.

[Todd4State]

Let's add 2006 baseball, which was ranked #1 early in the season, but missed Hoover. We did actually make the NCAA Tournament anyway though.

That team was always fools gold early on.

[cujo]

Here's my thing about baseball in general:

It's really hard to win at a high level. There are so many things that can go wrong on any given day.

1984, 1989, and 2016- all probably should have been in Omaha. Those 1980's teams ended up essentially finishing the equivalent of a Super Regional today.

Our 2021 team IMO wasn't as good as our 2019 team. 1985 was probably the best team in that field that year.

It's like that in MLB too.

So as far as MSU baseball if we make a Super Regional I consider it a good year.

In 84, we had Bobby Parker at SS. In 84 Palmeiro hit 29 homers, Clark 28

[StarkVegasSteve]

In my lifetime it is probably:

1. 2016- I still believe this team was the best State team I have ever seen(was not around for 85 or 89). We were loaded with power and XBH potential top to bottom in our lineup and had an amazing staff that was almost lights out at the backend. I truly thought we were going to win the whole thing. Yes I still hate Bobby Dalbec and no his homer he hit in Game 2 still has not landed.

2. 2003- I doubt I will ever forgive Polk for starting Maholm against MTSU in that regional. We could have beaten them with a bullpen game. I can still vividly remember the 9th inning of that Sunday regional. Just a gut wrenching feeling.

3. 2019- Although it was not a disappointment, I mean we ended up in Omaha after all, I just felt like we were the team of destiny. We were an amazing lineup top to bottom, we had a shutdown ace in Small, great arms in the bullpen, and we had Jake who you just felt like was not going to let us lose. On top of all that, we had some black magic going on in those black jerseys. When we beat Auburn I thought it was our time.

[Saltydog]

1984

Nobody ever talks about this team that coulda won it all but got beat at home in the finals in a regional when Clark & Palmeiro were sophomores and had a damn good shortstop I think his name was Bob Parker.

yes, we lost to New Orleans in the regional finals......

[Saltydog]

'84 was Raffy's triple crown year. He hit over .400 with 29 hr's and 94 rbis. Clark hit in the high .300's I believe and one less homer (28) and one less RBI (93) than Raffy. Just think about that. Unreal. Glad I got to watch them.

[Coach34]

https://thebaseballcube.com/content/stats/college~1984~20147/#:~:text=Southeastern%20Conference%20%20%20%20%23% 20%20,%20%2044%20%208%20more%20rows%20?msclkid=7b5 edd38cee911ecb355384f0a925c3d

We didnt have the pitching in 1984

[Rick Danko]

2006-Made the drive all night to Baton Rouge for the Saturday game after we won on Friday night. Number 1 team in the country and we blew it after having the lead. Still remember being heckled by their fans as we left a few minutes early since my buddy was giving them fits the entire time. Long ride home Sunday with a hangover

2016-Never in a million years did I think we?d lose to Arizona. Dalbec?s name will haunt my dreams for years to come. From national seed to losing at home in two. Brutal finish to that season

Honorable mention-2015 msu baseball. I know it was just a regional in 2014 baseball, but we had also come off making the finals in 2013, we had the great season in football, had a good football year in 2015 and Dak on campus. Just felt like everything was starting to go MSU?s way in athletics and man did we suck. Granted we came back with a brilliant 2016 campaign (highlighted above unfortunately) but 2015 was the only year I can recall just not watching us play anymore, my blood pressure just could not handle it any longer that year

[Matt3467]

This is baseball, but 2018 football is easily the most disappointing of all state teams. I love mullen, but I'm really disappointed he left such a great team

While the talent on the 2018 team was high I think we had a legitimate shot at winning it all in 2014 but Mullen choked vs Bama again and then we still had a shot at going until he lost vs OM.

[msstate7]

While the talent on the 2018 team was high I think we had a legitimate shot at winning it all in 2014 but Mullen choked vs Bama again and then we still had a shot at going until he lost vs OM.

That was a tough pill to swallow bc bama was down. That was one of the worst saban teams at bama, and we choked. Mullen panicked early, but he had a strong assist from our best qb ever in that game... man, those Ints were brutal

[Duckdog]

God only knows what a coach with half a brain coulda done. Mullen & STATE Fans will regret his hasty departure fo a while.

You mean, FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[OLJWales]

While the talent on the 2018 team was high I think we had a legitimate shot at winning it all in 2014 but Mullen choked vs Bama again and then we still had a shot at going until he lost vs OM.

We pissed in some mighty fine whiskey those final 2 games.

[Commercecomet24]

We pissed in some mighty fine whiskey those final 2 games.

You always have a way with words, my friend! Have some rep!

[basedog]

I'm still all in as this year being my most disappointed year, doesn't seem real having 6 starters back and not making the SEC tourney (it's still kinda in play). Maybe we get hot the next two weekends......cough cough, I'm hot right now cutting up some trees for firewood. And I gotta go the distance as I don't have a reliver! LMBO! I'm old but tough!

[BHildreth3]

I still say the '89 team is the best team in school history. Yeah, I know they didn't make the cws yada, yada but they were nasty. Tommy Raffo, Pete Young, Jody Hurst, Winford bros, Richie Grayum, Brad Hildreth, Cohen, Burke Masters, Tracy Echols, Jon Shave, Bobby Reed, Tracy Jobes, Chris George, Chuck Daniel, Rob Norman, Chuck Holley. Turn around and made the CWS the following year but that team was not as good as the '89.

....and...how can you forget Jon Harden coming out of the bullpen to throw that 50 mph curveball that made guys fall down....then the FIRE with ol Pete Young closing it out the 9th with 3rd baseman dirt all over his uniform Man, i miss that team and YES it was the best team in the history of our program.

[State82]

2016-Never in a million years did I think we?d lose to Arizona. Dalbec?s name will haunt my dreams for years to come. From national seed to losing at home in two. Brutal finish to that season

That was excruciating. Remember it like it was last week, for several reasons.

[OLJWales]

You always have a way with words, my friend! Have some rep!

How's your boy's arm doing these days CC?

[MedDawg]

Here you go:

3) 1989, we were #1 most of the year, we were loaded with depth and talent only to lose on Sunday in the regional at the Dudy to North Carolina. I think we had 6 total losses for the year!

2) 1985, 4 major league all-stars, a wicked shot off the bat into Gene Morgan's leg pretty much cost us Natty.

1) 2022, season isn't officially over but it seems to be over. After winning a Natty, celebrating like it was going out of style, injuries to our pitching staff plus the high expectations with "most of the line-up back except pitchers, we have been so inconsistent and total flop thinking we would make another run to Omaha!

Good list, and I agree.

In 1989 I believe we were #1 in the country going into the regionals. That year I was Up North with little-to-no college baseball news, so it didn't hurt as much as if I had been in Mississippi, like in 1985 and 2022.

[MedDawg]

This is baseball, but 2018 football is easily the most disappointing of all state teams. I love mullen, but I'm really disappointed he left such a great team

True about 2018, but 2001 broke my heart. Broke my spirit. I was up there believing with Rosebowl and I might have even made hotel reservations in Pasadena for New Year's Day. I have never been ALL IN for football since.

Narrator: He didn't need the reservations.

[Commercecomet24]

How's your boy's arm doing these days CC?

Appreciate you asking. He got completely shutdown about a month ago(he's been Gulf Coasts Landon Sims, coaching first base since then). The shoulder had progressed pretty well but then the elbow started having problems. Thought he had a torn ucl but turned out to be a bad flexor tendon strain. The Shuckers team orthopedist has been taking care of him. He's had more MRI this spring than I've had in my entire life lol. Gulf Coast season came to an end in the playoffs last friday on a walk off 2 run homer in the bottom of the 9th, and he started rehab yesterday at a great training facility here in Jones county. Got some great trainers and he's looking to get fully healthy this summer. As rough of a spring as he's had, we've been truly blessed that it wasn't much worse. I really appreicate you asking, thank you!

On another note. Riley Self is the pitching coach at Gulf Coast and my son got really close with him. It was really cool to see that CWS Championship Ring up close! Riley's a good guy.

[basedog]

Appreciate you asking. He got completely shutdown about a month ago(he's been Gulf Coasts Landon Sims, coaching first base since then). The shoulder had progressed pretty well but then the elbow started having problems. Thought he had a torn ucl but turned out to be a bad flexor tendon strain. The Shuckers team orthopedist has been taking care of him. He's had more MRI this spring than I've had in my entire life lol. Gulf Coast season came to an end in the playoffs last friday on a walk off 2 run homer in the bottom of the 9th, and he started rehab yesterday at a great training facility here in Jones county. Got some great trainers and he's looking to get fully healthy this summer. As rough of a spring as he's had, we've been truly blessed that it wasn't much worse. I really appreicate you asking, thank you!

On another note. Riley Self is the pitching coach at Gulf Coast and my son got really close with him. It was really cool to see that CWS Championship Ring up close! Riley's a good guy.

As you know shutting things down and doing the right thing in Rehab is the key. I wish your son all the best, I hope to hear good things about him next spring!

[Commercecomet24]

As you know shutting things down and doing the right thing in Rehab is the key. I wish your son all the best, I hope to hear good things about him next spring!

Hindsight we probably should've just shut it down at the beginning, he just wanted to get on the field so bad. Everytime the shoulder would get better, he'd get in and it would flare again. Up and down all season and then when the shoulder was seemingly better the elbow went down(ortho said from favoring the shoulder). Just a mess all season(kinda like State season), but glad the injuries weren't worse. Appreciate all the well wishes and thoughts, thank you!

[Tbonewannabe]

2006-Made the drive all night to Baton Rouge for the Saturday game after we won on Friday night. Number 1 team in the country and we blew it after having the lead. Still remember being heckled by their fans as we left a few minutes early since my buddy was giving them fits the entire time. Long ride home Sunday with a hangover

2016-Never in a million years did I think we?d lose to Arizona. Dalbec?s name will haunt my dreams for years to come. From national seed to losing at home in two. Brutal finish to that season

Honorable mention-2015 msu baseball. I know it was just a regional in 2014 baseball, but we had also come off making the finals in 2013, we had the great season in football, had a good football year in 2015 and Dak on campus. Just felt like everything was starting to go MSU?s way in athletics and man did we suck. Granted we came back with a brilliant 2016 campaign (highlighted above unfortunately) but 2015 was the only year I can recall just not watching us play anymore, my blood pressure just could not handle it any longer that year

2015 was a weird kind of year. Cohen built that team around the dead ball so when the NCAA changed the ball, it screwed our team. Ross Mitchell went from damn near unhittable to throwing BP. It was similar to if starting in August, Leach wasn't allowed to throw a forward pass and he only has a couple of months to work it out.

[OLJWales]

Appreciate you asking. He got completely shutdown about a month ago(he's been Gulf Coasts Landon Sims, coaching first base since then). The shoulder had progressed pretty well but then the elbow started having problems. Thought he had a torn ucl but turned out to be a bad flexor tendon strain. The Shuckers team orthopedist has been taking care of him. He's had more MRI this spring than I've had in my entire life lol. Gulf Coast season came to an end in the playoffs last friday on a walk off 2 run homer in the bottom of the 9th, and he started rehab yesterday at a great training facility here in Jones county. Got some great trainers and he's looking to get fully healthy this summer. As rough of a spring as he's had, we've been truly blessed that it wasn't much worse. I really appreicate you asking, thank you!

On another note. Riley Self is the pitching coach at Gulf Coast and my son got really close with him. It was really cool to see that CWS Championship Ring up close! Riley's a good guy.

Awesome stuff Man. How much college eligibility does he have left and what kinda bat does he have?

[lastmajordog]

This is baseball, but 2018 football is easily the most disappointing of all state teams. I love mullen, but I'm really disappointed he left such a great team
This by far followed closely by Mullen choking in T Town in 14 and then om in oxford........that will be sickening for many many years......

[Coach34]

This by far followed closely by Mullen choking in T Town in 14 and then om in oxford........that will be sickening for many many years......

Mullen's playcalling in the 2014 Bama was absolute garbage. One of his worst at State. People want to blame Dakota and his 3 picks- but Mullen did him no favors.

I mean it happens...I've been there. But he picked a bad to stop sniffing glue.

[Matt3467]

Mullen's playcalling in the 2014 Bama was absolute garbage. One of his worst at State. People want to blame Dakota and his 3 picks- but Mullen did him no favors.

I mean it happens...I've been there. But he picked a bad to stop sniffing glue.

Still think it'd have been near blasphemy to keep a 1 loss team with the year we had out of the playoffs that year had we just handled business in Oxford but no of course we lose to them then get trounced by Georgia Tech.

[Saltydog]

....and...how can you forget Jon Harden coming out of the bullpen to throw that 50 mph curveball that made guys fall down....then the FIRE with ol Pete Young closing it out the 9th with 3rd baseman dirt all over his uniform Man, i miss that team and YES it was the best team in the history of our program.

Damn, no way I should've left him off. I'll blame it on age. Yeah, JH was one of my favorite all time players. He made Albert "don't call me Joey" Belle look like Bugs Bunny swinging at those super slow pitches and wrapping himself up in knots. His FB may have been 80 on a good day but it looked like it was 100 MPH after the junk he threw up there.

[EdwardDrayton]

Here you go:

3) 1989, we were #1 most of the year, we were loaded with depth and talent only to lose on Sunday in the regional at the Dudy to North Carolina. I think we had 6 total losses for the year!

2) 1985, 4 major league all-stars, a wicked shot off the bat into Gene Morgan's leg pretty much cost us Natty.

1) 2022, season isn't officially over but it seems to be over. After winning a Natty, celebrating like it was going out of style, injuries to our pitching staff plus the high expectations with "most of the line-up back except pitchers, we have been so inconsistent and total flop thinking we would make another run to Omaha!


That and Greg Ellena. Stuff nightmares are made of.

[Saltydog]

That and Greg Ellena. Stuff nightmares are made of.

Thigpen hit a grand slam in like the 6th or 7th inning and then Ellena walked us off with the dinger to beat us 6-5. Absolutely gut wrenching.

[State82]

That and Greg Ellena. Stuff nightmares are made of.

Oh hell, I can't believe you just brought up that guy's name! Horror story.

[EdwardDrayton]

Oh hell, I can't believe you just brought up that guy's name! Horror story.

Has to be the worst back-to-back days in our sports history.

[State82]

Has to be the worst back-to-back days in our sports history.

It's bad when you can recall those instances from 37 years ago like it happened last season. Gut punch. Living and dying with MSU sports. Geez.

[Schultzy]

Mullen's playcalling in the 2014 Bama was absolute garbage. One of his worst at State. People want to blame Dakota and his 3 picks- but Mullen did him no favors.

I mean it happens...I've been there. But he picked a bad to stop sniffing glue.

And he was so damn nervous looking that day the players had to lead HIM. Hell, Dan at least fake confidence if you?re scared as shit.

That said the no call DPI just before half still pisses me off, and One more stop in the fourth and I think we come back.

ALSO, they fumbled the ****ing ball on their opening TD drive in the 1st quarter at the 50 and we recovered but jackass refused to ask for a replay which was protocol back then. That was a big frigging deal in that game. It was a hell of a strip by somebody too.

[Schultzy]

https://thebaseballcube.com/content/stats/college~1984~20147/#:~:text=Southeastern%20Conference%20%20%20%20%23% 20%20,%20%2044%20%208%20more%20rows%20?msclkid=7b5 edd38cee911ecb355384f0a925c3d

We didnt have the pitching in 1984

I?ve heard this crap from others over the years but back then it was enough. We could hit like a mofo and Polk would've been forced to throw a Gene Morgan that he under valued.

[EdwardDrayton]

It's bad when you can recall those instances from 37 years ago like it happened last season. Gut punch. Living and dying with MSU sports. Geez.

I can still see Gene getting hit like it was YESTERDAY. Fortunately the Ellena HR is not as vivid. But the gut wrenching part, well, some things never die.

[Schultzy]

Still think it'd have been near blasphemy to keep a 1 loss team with the year we had out of the playoffs that year had we just handled business in Oxford but no of course we lose to them then get trounced by Georgia Tech.
Most of my circle says no, but if Mullen & & Geoff don’t mail in the egg we make the playoffs.

[MoreCowbell]

God only knows what a coach with half a brain coulda done. Mullen & STATE Fans will regret his hasty departure fo a while.

10-2 at worst. 11-1 most likely

[lastmajordog]

Mullen's playcalling in the 2014 Bama was absolute garbage. One of his worst at State. People want to blame Dakota and his 3 picks- but Mullen did him no favors.

I mean it happens...I've been there. But he picked a bad to stop sniffing glue.

My memory may fail me , but what I remember is Mullen trying to run on Bama when he shouldn’t have and passing when he shouldn’t, especially the first half. Seems Bama defense was way ahead of the play calling, but again maybe I was just so upset my memory has failed.....