Pitching staff

[Dawgsfanalongtime77]

With the rumor of Auger being out for the year and possibly Stinett, Really running out of options. Again just what I heard so it may not mean much. But apparently we are gonna need to hit homers on the regular at this rate

[Patrick Tibbons]

Auger is not a rumor. Lemonis confirmed it.

[Dawgsfanalongtime77]

Auger is not a rumor. Lemonis confirmed it.

Well there you have it

[Cooterpoot]

My question is where is Tepper? We're out here throwing Tullar (I know, matchups) and Tepper is nowhere. Anybody know anything? Walker, Walling, and Tepper are going to have to throw at some point. Ive seen enough of Talley and Tullar.

[ScooterDog]

Do you suppose they are saving them for the Tues nite game with the sharks at Trustmark Park ?

[Saltydog]

With the rumor of Auger being out for the year and possibly Stinett, Really running out of options. Again just what I heard so it may not mean much. But apparently we are gonna need to hit homers on the regular at this rate

What's the real word on Stinnett? Anyone know?

[TNDawg35]

Hell throw Walling Tues. if he can get hot, he is a game changer and Ole Miss can’t hit Lh pitching for shit…

[Leroy Jenkins]

I think Walker is the most likely to get the start tomorrow.

[Cooterpoot]

Walker, Walling, & Tepper would be my plan. 17 the schedule maker on this game! Really terrible scheduling.

[Hot Rock]

With the rumor of Auger being out for the year and possibly Stinett, Really running out of options. Again just what I heard so it may not mean much. But apparently we are gonna need to hit homers on the regular at this rate

This make two more pieces lost to the bull pen and yet they won the weekend. This may be one of the grittiest performances by a team and coaching staff that I have seen. Lacking leadership my ass, they are growing up in front of our eyes.

Lets look at that pitching staff:

Three starters in Preston Johnson, Brandon & Cade Smith that all have gone 5-6 innings in recent weeks. What Johnson did Friday after back to back to back HR's shows me a mental toughness and grittiness that is off the charts. A bullpen that seems to have found a closer in KC Hunt that can go back to back days when needed. A few other guys seem to be figuring it out in Pico Kohn, Cam Tullar, Jackson Fristoe, Mikey Tepper and Drew Talley. Spotty sure, but they all have good outings.

That's after loosing the #1 starter in Landon Sims and major bullpen pieces like Simmons, Auger and now possibly Stinnett. That's nuts guys.

If Jack Walker, Andrew Walling and Lane Forsythe can contribute then we could see something special brewing. I am not on Genespage so I don't 'have a vote in who starts the Gov Cup but I hope is that's it's Walling and shows signs of putting it together.

Will it be too little too late to make the post season? I don't know but one thing I do know. No one will want this team in their regional if they make it.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I'll say this about the staff, statically the last two weekends have been our best. 10 ER last weekend and 14 ER this past weekend. Also cutting down on the walks and the Ks are trending up. Staff had a 3.33 ERA against Auburn and a 4.50 ERA against OM. With how depleted our staff is that is pretty impressive. Especially considering we only used 5 arms out of the bullpen with Hunt, Kohn, Tullar, and Fristoe all pitching twice on the weekend.

They have to keep trending positively and we also need our starters to continue to get to at least 100 pitches and at minimum through the sixth inning. This weekend was big for guys like Fristoe, Kohn, and Hunt.

[IMissJack]

Is there something wrong with our off season approach that is getting this many pitchers hurt?

[Saltydog]

I agree Walker will likely get the start and he will get shelled. I'd be shocked if he didn't given his recent appearances.

[Saltydog]

Is there something wrong with our off season approach that is getting this many pitchers hurt?

There are guys here like Commerce, etc. that know way more about this than I do but I seriously doubt it's anything we're doing. You take several years worth of travel ball and kids essentially throwing all year and to me that is what really expedites these arm issues. There's only so many pitches in an arm before something like this happens. Not happening is becoming increasingly rare. Velo is just taught so much now and it's a major contributor to these UCL's. Like has been discussed here recently, a lot of pro teams don't really disregard a kid too much because of it, hence most folks believe Landon is still a 1st rounder.

[The Federalist Engineer]

There are guys here like Commerce, etc. that know way more about this than I do but I seriously doubt it's anything we're doing. You take several years worth of travel ball and kids essentially throwing all year and to me that is what really expedites these arm issues. There's only so many pitches in an arm before something like this happens. Not happening is becoming increasingly rare. Like has been discussed here recently, a lot of pro teams don't really disregard a kid too much because of it, hence most folks believe Landon is still a 1st rounder.

It's not just MSU, it's the entire pool of teams in Elite D1 college baseball.

Also, College Coaching is not the only coaching, conditioning, and development the elite collegiate players get. There are Velo and Mechanics specialists that offer services to MLB prospects.


https://www.drivelinebaseball.com/2022/03/dillon-tate-using-biomechanics-for-player-development/

[R2Dawg]

Walker, Walling, & Tepper would be my plan. 17 the schedule maker on this game! Really terrible scheduling.

I'd go with that too. I'd also have Lane ready to come in for an inning if needed to settle things down. Lane is needed at this point. We just don't have the arms and he has shown potential to have some stuff that we really need. Needs reps on a mid-week game.

We won the SEC series just try and get some arms reps to help us for next several SEC weekends this week.

[TNDawg35]

Teller is getting the nod per twitter…

[Commercecomet24]

There are guys here like Commerce, etc. that know way more about this than I do but I seriously doubt it's anything we're doing. You take several years worth of travel ball and kids essentially throwing all year and to me that is what really expedites these arm issues. There's only so many pitches in an arm before something like this happens. Not happening is becoming increasingly rare. Velo is just taught so much now and it's a major contributor to these UCL's. Like has been discussed here recently, a lot of pro teams don't really disregard a kid too much because of it, hence most folks believe Landon is still a 1st rounder.

You're right, it's nothing our staff is doing. It's the increase in velo training and a lot of year around baseball that's contributing to this. The human body was only meant to throw a ball so hard. I believe Dr Andrews says 91-92 is about max, after that most arms are on borrowed time. With the increase in velo training and kids throwing harder at younger ages and playing more often,it's not really a matter of if but when. Its why the stigma of Tommy John has really declined over the years. It's just pretty much expected to happen now. Our staff does as good a job as any at trying to protect our pitchers but remember they're inheriting a lot of miles already on these arms.

[SilentSteel16]

You're right, it's nothing our staff is doing. It's the increase in velo training and a lot of year around baseball that's contributing to this. The human body was only meant to throw a ball so hard. I believe Dr Andrews says 91-92 is about max, after that most arms are on borrowed time. With the increase in velo training and kids throwing harder at younger ages and playing more often,it's not really a matter of if but when. Its why the stigma of Tommy John has really declined over the years. It's just pretty much expected to happen now. Our staff does as good a job as any at trying to protect our pitchers but remember they're inheriting a lot of miles already on these arms.

This exactly, Andrews is not the only one saying that. Fletcher back in the 60s was talking about guys throwing over 88 mph should be put on a 80 pitch count per week due to overworking, wait for it, the elbow.

Just hope the kid in TN throwing 104 has a good off the mound work around, because he has already had repair work done. His mechanics look sound though but if he starts throwing sliders or anything with a negative axis on his elbow he will have some more surgeries in his future. The human body is not designed to throw a baseball with counter rotation.

[Commercecomet24]

This exactly, Andrews is not the only one saying that. Fletcher back in the 60s was talking about guys throwing over 88 mph should be put on a 80 pitch count per week due to overworking, wait for it, the elbow.

Just hope the kid in TN throwing 104 has a good off the mound work around, because he has already had repair work done. His mechanics look sound though but if he starts throwing sliders or anything with a negative axis on his elbow he will have some more surgeries in his future. The human body is not designed to throw a baseball with counter rotation.

Yep, you got that right!

[SilentSteel16]

What parents need to understand is this, their kid from 10-14 years of age should NOT be throwing curve balls or sliders. It has been medically proven that the growth plates on early to mid teenage kids are still open in the elbow, meaning that the ligaments have a huge range of motion due to the body growing. I forget which group it was but they did a study of 500 professional baseball players and found that if the kid had elbow soreness in junior high especially pitchers they were 75 percent more apt to having UCL injuries due to scar tissue developing inside of a growth plate.

What happens is this, a growth plate is open and remains open until full hardening of interior plate on elbow. When this happens the plate will close and what is there is there for good. The problem is kids are overworking their arms while it is open and scar tissue is developed which presses the ligaments against the now closed plate. Meaning structural fatigue is going to happen and I can promise you ligaments give before bone. That is why if you see a kid grabbing an elbow and rubbing especially a pitcher you need to shut him down. Scar tissue will almost guarantee him ligament damage in early 20s if he continues to stress the joints..

This was common knowledge to just about all trainers in personally knew 10-15 years ago. BUT they can’t fix what damage was done to a kid in his teens, that is on the parents and coaches… that is why I don’t like travel ball or year round ball

[confucius say]

Weighted balls man. Weighted balls. The velo goes up on average 3-4 mph but TJ chances increase 25%.
The body can't handle the deceleration with that much velo.

[The Federalist Engineer]

Weighted balls man. Weighted balls. The velo goes up on average 3-4 mph but TJ chances increase 25%.
The body can't handle the deceleration with that much velo.

https://www.drivelinebaseball.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/Brooksbaseball-Chart-2-1024x683.png

This is a Velo development outfit in Washington state. Interesting link.

https://www.drivelinebaseball.com/2022/03/dillon-tate-using-biomechanics-for-player-development/