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msstate7
04-12-2022, 06:01 PM
No one cares.

3-1 uab

662dawg
04-12-2022, 06:07 PM
Alford needs to stay at 3rd. Let him get some reps & at bats. His defense has been spectacular.

BeardoMSU
04-12-2022, 06:13 PM
Lol, this thread is more depressing than our season.

Activated Alpha
04-12-2022, 06:14 PM
I totally just missed what happened. We had a guy at 2nd with no outs

WSOPdawg
04-12-2022, 06:17 PM
I'm traveling and am having difficulty picking the broadcast up on ESPN+ so it very well could be my hotel connection, but I'm also thinking Bart (and Charlie or Matt) could also be apathetic regarding the team and there is no telecast. Surely it on and it's my connection, right? Right?

662dawg
04-12-2022, 06:17 PM
Lol, this thread is more depressing than our season.

😂

Cowbell
04-12-2022, 06:23 PM
Yeager is turning into Tanner Allen

662dawg
04-12-2022, 06:26 PM
Yeager is turning into Tanner Allen

That would be a huge boost had the rest of the team not turned into Lane Forsyth.

EdwardDrayton
04-12-2022, 06:30 PM
Backwards K with the bases loaded. Smh

BayouDawg
04-12-2022, 06:36 PM
Talley looked solid that inning. Pounded the lower part of the zone.

Ranchdawg
04-12-2022, 06:42 PM
Just absolutely depressing as anything I can remember in MSU athletics. Since 1979

BeardoMSU
04-12-2022, 06:44 PM
I'm not saying Go should be relieved of his duties, but is it not reasonable to question our hitting approach overall and the hitting results this year?

magrooder
04-12-2022, 06:47 PM
I'm not saying Go should be relieved of his duties, but is it not reasonable to question our hitting approach overall and the hitting results this year?

Honestly, how can it not be questioned? The results speak for themselves.

magrooder
04-12-2022, 06:48 PM
Backwards K with the bases loaded. Smh

He probably should have tried to foul it off, but it really was a VERY high strike call.

BayouDawg
04-12-2022, 06:52 PM
I'm not saying Go should be relieved of his duties, but is it not reasonable to question our hitting approach overall and the hitting results this year?

I am for at least exploring this possibility

EdwardDrayton
04-12-2022, 06:53 PM
I'm not saying Go should be relieved of his duties, but is it not reasonable to question our hitting approach overall and the hitting results this year?

#1 on the most pertinent/relevant question list

EdwardDrayton
04-12-2022, 06:58 PM
He probably should have tried to foul it off, but it really was a VERY high strike call.

We saw that pitch differently. Didn’t appear to me high enough to take.

magrooder
04-12-2022, 06:59 PM
I hope that didn't hurt Yeager. It sounded solid

magrooder
04-12-2022, 07:00 PM
We saw that pitch differently. Didn’t appear to me high enough to take.

You may be right, sometimes my extreme bias kicks in.

BeardoMSU
04-12-2022, 07:02 PM
Tie game. Thank Christ.

Activated Alpha
04-12-2022, 07:03 PM
Tie game. Thank Christ.

Tie game you say? Perfect time to trot out Tullar.....

EdwardDrayton
04-12-2022, 07:09 PM
Drew Talley 2 innings 1 hit 3Ks no runs

Knick knack Talley whack give that Dawg a bone

Sorry. I get bored easily.

662dawg
04-12-2022, 07:10 PM
Tie game you say? Perfect time to trot out Tullar.....

Hancock has stranded 5 runners tonight.

BeardoMSU
04-12-2022, 07:11 PM
Tie game you say? Perfect time to trot out Tullar.....

Can we bring Parker out again, or no?***

BeardoMSU
04-12-2022, 07:12 PM
Hancock has stranded 5 runners tonight.

He's been the anti-clutch this season.

Cowbell
04-12-2022, 07:17 PM
He's been the anti-clutch this season.

That would be Cumbest

BeardoMSU
04-12-2022, 07:18 PM
That would be Cumbest

A lot of that going around, sadly.

Homedawg
04-12-2022, 07:24 PM
10 hits. Can't piece anything together again. And can't get a big hit. Story of the season

msstate7
04-12-2022, 07:29 PM
10 hits. Can't piece anything together again. And can't get a big hit. Story of the season

Maybe that bad luck with turn soon

maroonmania
04-12-2022, 07:33 PM
Will we ever score more than 3 runs in a game again?

msstate7
04-12-2022, 07:37 PM
Lane is a hitting machine

magrooder
04-12-2022, 07:38 PM
Go Lane!!

EdwardDrayton
04-12-2022, 07:41 PM
Lane is a hitting machine

And it’s only Game #34

Homedawg
04-12-2022, 07:42 PM
Maybe that bad luck with turn soon

Same thing again. It's unreal

EdwardDrayton
04-12-2022, 07:43 PM
We’ve turned stranding base runners into an art form.

BeardoMSU
04-12-2022, 07:46 PM
Lol, never would've expected this...

msstate7
04-12-2022, 07:46 PM
Well, football will be here before you know it

BeardoMSU
04-12-2022, 07:48 PM
Lol, we suck balls. I really hope this Fristoe thing has run its course....

EdwardDrayton
04-12-2022, 07:48 PM
So that’s what situational hitting looks like. Good to know.

BeardoMSU
04-12-2022, 07:48 PM
Nice job.

BayouDawg
04-12-2022, 07:49 PM
This season just keeps getting worse and worse

Homedawg
04-12-2022, 07:49 PM
We’ve turned stranding base runners into an art form.

!!!!!

R2Dawg
04-12-2022, 07:49 PM
Can we mercy rule the rest of the season?

maroonmania
04-12-2022, 07:49 PM
Great inning here by our closer.**

Saltydog
04-12-2022, 07:49 PM
I see a lot of folks talking about Go but our pitching is just as bad. Not one pitcher has gotten better from last year with the exception of Cade.

BeardoMSU
04-12-2022, 07:50 PM
When did Jackson get this bad?

R2Dawg
04-12-2022, 07:50 PM
The Fristoe experiment continues.

BeardoMSU
04-12-2022, 07:52 PM
I see a lot of folks talking about Go but our pitching is just as big a problem. The only pitcher that's improved is Cade. Now Fristoe blows another one.

Stop. Our pitching had depth issues because of injuries...what's the O's excuse?

Again, it's like people refuse to even acknowledge shit isn't right with our bats...

Leeshouldveflanked
04-12-2022, 07:52 PM
CTRL ALT DEL

Skydawg1
04-12-2022, 07:53 PM
Wait'll Auburn skins us alive. 7 game losing streak is a real possibility.

Cowbell
04-12-2022, 07:55 PM
Lane Forsythe gets 3 hits in a game and we can't win it. There is an unreal amount of bad juju with this bunch.

ZedFedder
04-12-2022, 07:56 PM
I’ve got serious questions about Foxhall. Fristoe, Tepper, Stinnett, Hunt are all way too talented for them ALL to be bad. Truthfully, only Sims and Bednar are the only ones I can think of who have really excelled under him. CMac regressed big time under him. Cerantola never became anything. Nobody is ever going to be perfect, and some guys won’t develop, but he is really missing on a lot of them.

Saltydog
04-12-2022, 07:57 PM
Stop. Our pitching had depth issues because of injuries...what's the O's excuse?

Again, it's like people refuse to even acknowledge shit isn't right with our bats...

Are you kidding? Name one pitcher that got better from last year other than Cade? No need to hang up and listen because the answer is zero. Sure the two injuries hurt but some of the guys we expected to step up this year have been for shit.

BeardoMSU
04-12-2022, 07:58 PM
Are you kidding? Name one pitcher that got better from last year other than Cade? No need to hang up and listen because the answer is zero. Sure the two injuries hurt but some of the guys we expected to step up this year have been for shit.

Fine. We can still question our hitting coach. Stop it.

magrooder
04-12-2022, 08:00 PM
Got a break with that strike 3 call.

EdwardDrayton
04-12-2022, 08:01 PM
Got a break with that strike 3 call.

All gifts are kindly accepted.

maroonmania
04-12-2022, 08:02 PM
Brought in Hunt 2 runs too late.

magrooder
04-12-2022, 08:04 PM
Brought in Hunt 2 runs too late.

Must have been saving him in case of extra innings**

msstate7
04-12-2022, 08:07 PM
Maybe hunt saved this season

magrooder
04-12-2022, 08:07 PM
Haaaaaaaa, Hines ties it up

BayouDawg
04-12-2022, 08:07 PM
Hines going oppo to tie it up! Maybe there is a sliver of hope

EdwardDrayton
04-12-2022, 08:08 PM
Oppo HR Hunter Hines. Now that’s what I’m talking about!!!

Saltydog
04-12-2022, 08:10 PM
Fine. We can still question our hitting coach. Stop it.

I don't disagree but my point is that it's not all on Go. The pitching staff has a 5.25 era, that's 13th in the league. In SEC play it's 7.06. We're batting .270 and that's 13th in the league as well. USC is 14th in both.

EdwardDrayton
04-12-2022, 08:13 PM
Damn Kellum. Learn how to attack the outside half of the plate. Sheesh.

msstate7
04-12-2022, 08:13 PM
Don't wanna use hunt too long. We need him vs auburn

Homedawg
04-12-2022, 08:15 PM
Stop. Our pitching had depth issues because of injuries...what's the O's excuse?

Again, it's like people refuse to even acknowledge shit isn't right with our bats...

Can't get clutch hits. Finally got one but this game could be long over if we could hit at all w risp

Homedawg
04-12-2022, 08:16 PM
I?ve got serious questions about Foxhall. Fristoe, Tepper, Stinnett, Hunt are all way too talented for them ALL to be bad. Truthfully, only Sims and Bednar are the only ones I can think of who have really excelled under him. CMac regressed big time under him. Cerantola never became anything. Nobody is ever going to be perfect, and some guys won?t develop, but he is really missing on a lot of them.

Hint is better now healthy. The rest... same or worse.

maroonmania
04-12-2022, 08:17 PM
Yep, and now we are going to have to pitch arms in extras to try and win this one that we really need to be saving for the Auburn series

Homedawg
04-12-2022, 08:19 PM
Liebelt got a ton better. There are examples of improvement w fox. He's a good coach. I get it this year leads to doubt. I understand

BeardoMSU
04-12-2022, 08:19 PM
Can't get clutch hits. Finally got one but this game could be long over if we could hit at all w risp

Yes.

EdwardDrayton
04-12-2022, 08:19 PM
Hines going oppo to tie it up! Maybe there is a sliver of hope

But WHY has it taken 35 games to see a glimpse of this.

magrooder
04-12-2022, 08:23 PM
Shit.

BayouDawg
04-12-2022, 08:23 PM
But WHY has it taken 35 games to see a glimpse of this.

That is a great question.

BeardoMSU
04-12-2022, 08:25 PM
KC got us 4 outs that inning, lol.

magrooder
04-12-2022, 08:25 PM
Hunt got it done.

EdwardDrayton
04-12-2022, 08:26 PM
Better get it done pups because the death knell is set to toll.

Homedawg
04-12-2022, 08:29 PM
But WHY has it taken 35 games to see a glimpse of this.

He's gone oppo before. But he did just break a 1-30somthing slump so there's that

R2Dawg
04-12-2022, 08:31 PM
What a night for Forsythe

R2Dawg
04-12-2022, 08:32 PM
Are we really gonna lose after Forsythe gets 4 hits? It would fit the year but surely we pull this out.

msstate7
04-12-2022, 08:32 PM
Lane may not get another hit this season

Cowbell
04-12-2022, 08:33 PM
I will take Lane getting four hits over a win if that means he's breaking out for the season.

magrooder
04-12-2022, 08:35 PM
Same pitch, one ball, one strike. smh

ScoobaDawg
04-12-2022, 08:35 PM
Hell yea lane!!!! 2b error by throwing that pick.

magrooder
04-12-2022, 08:36 PM
Forsythe making things happen

EdwardDrayton
04-12-2022, 08:37 PM
He's gone oppo before. But he did just break a 1-30somthing slump so there's that

I meant as a team we’ve just not seen this as an approach at the plate.

ScoobaDawg
04-12-2022, 08:39 PM
James gets the sac fly for the win.

Dawgs win again 6-5 in 10

magrooder
04-12-2022, 08:40 PM
Wow.

BeardoMSU
04-12-2022, 08:41 PM
Thank Christ.

Homedawg
04-12-2022, 08:41 PM
Lane may not get another hit this season

He's hot. But he can't sustain it. But I've stood by he should be our shortstop. Leggett can't hit either. He has more pop yes. But it's not in league. Defense Leggett is behind by a good margin.

maroonmania
04-12-2022, 08:41 PM
Nothing comes easy for this team but we had to have that one.

Cowbell
04-12-2022, 08:42 PM
Maybe this got rid of some of the bad juju

basedog
04-12-2022, 08:47 PM
I was never worried**

Happy for Lane!

BayouDawg
04-12-2022, 08:48 PM
That was a must win and showed some fight. Maybe this can be built on

EdwardDrayton
04-12-2022, 08:48 PM
Nothing comes easy for this team but we had to have that one.

Don’t like to say ‘must win’ but this was a must win.

basedog
04-12-2022, 09:02 PM
Every win is a must now!

Homedawg
04-12-2022, 09:23 PM
I meant as a team we’ve just not seen this as an approach at the plate.

Hahahah. I love it when the approach is good when we win. Bad when we lose. Good stuff. We stunk again w runners in scoring position. I assure you proper "approach" is being preached. Just getting a clutch hit makes it better.

Todd4State
04-12-2022, 09:48 PM
Hahahah. I love it when the approach is good when we win. Bad when we lose. Good stuff. We stunk again w runners in scoring position. I assure you proper "approach" is being preached. Just getting a clutch hit makes it better.

It wasn't great tonight. But 4-13 is better than it was going 1-15. Baby steps when a team is struggling. All I want them to do is get the bat on the ball more consistently. We did better at that tonight.

EdwardDrayton
04-12-2022, 09:49 PM
Hahahah. I love it when the approach is good when we win. Bad when we lose. Good stuff. We stunk again w runners in scoring position. I assure you proper "approach" is being preached. Just getting a clutch hit makes it better.

Oh we’re definitely not doing it as a team. We just saw a glimpse of what it can be with Hunter’s oppo. Just look at Kellum’s last couple of ABs for an example of what we usually get with approach at the plate.

And you get clutch hits when a team embraces a more balanced approach, especially in RISP situations.

Homedawg
04-12-2022, 09:58 PM
It wasn't great tonight. But 4-13 is better than it was going 1-15. Baby steps when a team is struggling. All I want them to do is get the bat on the ball more consistently. We did better at that tonight.

Just because you fail doesn't mean your approach is bad-- it might be in cases but not every at bat- it means you execution is bad. Had we lost, and it would have been real easy to do, the fans stance would be the same. Approach sucks. Fact is, we have issues. Very few arms we can count on, and inconsistent hitting. But we have 5 one run losses and that's not counting the last Friday loss one pitch away. IF, we win just half of those 6, things would be so dire. Yet, here we are. No room for mistakes. None. Just need to get hot or even warm and take some pressure off. Those guys are pressing big time.

Commercecomet24
04-12-2022, 10:05 PM
Just because you fail doesn't mean your approach is bad-- it might be in cases but not every at bat- it means you execution is bad. Had we lost, and it would have been real easy to do, the fans stance would be the same. Approach sucks. Fact is, we have issues. Very few arms we can count on, and inconsistent hitting. But we have 5 one run losses and that's not counting the last Friday loss one pitch away. IF, we win just half of those 6, things would be so dire. Yet, here we are. No room for mistakes. None. Just need to get hot or even warm and take some pressure off. Those guys are pressing big time.

That's it in a nutshell. 100%.

We've got guys grinding their bats into sawdust with risp right now.

KOdawg1
04-12-2022, 10:10 PM
I followed the game on Twitter and checked every 30 minutes or so. Much less stressful and less angering that way.

Glad we won. We still suck. That much doesn't appear to be changing. Happy that Lane had a good night. Good for him.

Homedawg
04-12-2022, 10:13 PM
Oh we’re definitely not doing it as a team. We just saw a glimpse of what it can be with Hunter’s oppo. Just look at Kellum’s last couple of ABs for an example of what we usually get with approach at the plate.

And you get clutch hits when a team embraces a more balanced approach, especially in RISP situations.

Kellum first ab was a hard hit ball to left... baseball is tough. I'm not making excuses for failing. But I assure you they've been coached a proper approach. Do we need better hitters? Pitchers? Maybe so. But that's a talent issue not an approach issue from either side. Amazing how great sims and Allen makes a coach look. And how bad....

HoopsDawg
04-12-2022, 10:22 PM
Kellum first ab was a hard hit ball to left... baseball is tough. I'm not making excuses for failing. But I assure you they've been coached a proper approach. Do we need better hitters? Pitchers? Maybe so. But that's a talent issue not an approach issue from either side. Amazing how great sims and Allen makes a coach look. And how bad....

Lemonis harped on Hines going oppo and guys staying on balls. the right things are being coached. we definitely need more timely hits. i don't know what we can do about our pitching. PJ and Cade are going thurs-friday. Hunt and B. Smith have shown they can get outs. Auger has been ok. After those 5???

Todd4State
04-12-2022, 10:38 PM
Just because you fail doesn't mean your approach is bad-- it might be in cases but not every at bat- it means you execution is bad. Had we lost, and it would have been real easy to do, the fans stance would be the same. Approach sucks. Fact is, we have issues. Very few arms we can count on, and inconsistent hitting. But we have 5 one run losses and that's not counting the last Friday loss one pitch away. IF, we win just half of those 6, things would be so dire. Yet, here we are. No room for mistakes. None. Just need to get hot or even warm and take some pressure off. Those guys are pressing big time.

You get away from what you're supposed to do when you press. Coaches have to recognize that and get them to relax in between innings before they go to the plate for the next AB. Now they may have and probably tried but the message wasn't getting across.

Odds of just not executing 14 time in 15 chances is pretty low.

Todd4State
04-12-2022, 10:40 PM
Lemonis harped on Hines going oppo and guys staying on balls. the right things are being coached. we definitely need more timely hits. i don't know what we can do about our pitching. PJ and Cade are going thurs-friday. Hunt and B. Smith have shown they can get outs. Auger has been ok. After those 5???

Talley looked good. Probably need to refrain from using Fristoe more than an inning from here on out. The key is going to be Preston, Cade, and TBA who we all know is Brandon going 6.

Situation there is getting better IMO.

EdwardDrayton
04-12-2022, 10:45 PM
Kellum first ab was a hard hit ball to left... baseball is tough. I'm not making excuses for failing. But I assure you they've been coached a proper approach. Do we need better hitters? Pitchers? Maybe so. But that's a talent issue not an approach issue from either side. Amazing how great sims and Allen makes a coach look. And how bad....

Maybe they?ve been taught but it sure doesn?t seem to be second nature. Or even a desire to execute it consistently. Kellum reverted to off balance leaning, flipping the barrel with his wrists to try and cover the outside half of the plate. And what you get is a lazy pop fly or weak rollover. It?s almost like let?s just try to foul this off until I get a pitch I can pull deep. Or worse just gaze at it because it?s not the ideal pitch i want. How about just pull the handle through the zone, delay the wrist release and opening of the front shoulder to try and make solid contact the opposite way for example. You know the yawning unexciting base hit RBI with no eye-popping exit velo. Just seems there?s little interest in directional hitting and more a love for power swinging.

Commercecomet24
04-12-2022, 10:58 PM
Lemonis harped on Hines going oppo and guys staying on balls. the right things are being coached. we definitely need more timely hits. i don't know what we can do about our pitching. PJ and Cade are going thurs-friday. Hunt and B. Smith have shown they can get outs. Auger has been ok. After those 5???

Kohn has been pretty good out of the pen not so good when he's started. He needs to stay in the pen because he's our only reliable lefty. PJ, Cade, Hunt, Auger, Smith(who I think should get a shot at starting), Kohn, gets kinda rough after that.

Todd4State
04-12-2022, 11:54 PM
Kohn has been pretty good out of the pen not so good when he's started. He needs to stay in the pen because he's our only reliable lefty. PJ, Cade, Hunt, Auger, Smith(who I think should get a shot at starting), Kohn, gets kinda rough after that.

I agree. I feel like we overextend some of our guys sometimes. Like Fristoe tonight. I know he has done it before for three innings. But sometimes I wish we would just back off instead of what feels like to me like we're trying to force someone to be something that they're not.

I know they want Fristoe to be the closer but I think that has to be Hunt going forward. We can still use Fristoe. But it needs to be a clean inning. Auger can give us two and maybe Talley and Pico can go 2-3 probably. So there is no need to force the issue.

If we scripted things in a perfect world (yeah right)

Friday- Preston followed up by Hunt for 3- although I think that's out the window for Thursday.
Sat- Cade followed by Tepper or Talley, Fristoe, and then Auger
Sun- Brandon followed up by Pico and Hunt for no more than one inning. We could potentially use Tepper or Talley if we don't use them on Saturday too.

Stinnett and Tullar should only be used if the game is out of hand.

The Federalist Engineer
04-13-2022, 01:25 AM
If we let go of the paradigm that MSU is a entitled to beat UAB without struggle, win the 2022 National Championship, or get really close to a 2022 National Championship - then this was good ballgame. Nice walk off win.

- Hines' oppo job was an impressive adjustment
- Lemonis used Alford and Downs as ED recommended
- Lemonis found a way to put James in CF to give Alford a game at 3B
- We saw quality work from KC Hunt, he is a great asset to have back
- Forsythe is hitting 278, that's better than most of the team for batting average, still needs to add a drag bunt to his skillset
- Coaches maybe learned that for the balance of 2021, Fristoe is a one-out guy. Don't put him out there expecting 3 to 6 outs. Just one-out at a time. He can turn a clean inning into a 3-Run Homer in a blink of eye right now.

R2Dawg
04-13-2022, 12:30 PM
If we let go of the paradigm that MSU is a entitled to beat UAB without struggle, win the 2022 National Championship, or get really close to a 2022 National Championship - then this was good ballgame. Nice walk off win.

- Hines' oppo job was an impressive adjustment
- Lemonis used Alford and Downs as ED recommended
- Lemonis found a way to put James in CF to give Alford a game at 3B
- We saw quality work from KC Hunt, he is a great asset to have back
- Forsythe is hitting 278, that's better than most of the team for batting average, still needs to add a drag bunt to his skillset
- Coaches maybe learned that for the balance of 2021, Fristoe is a one-out guy. Don't put him out there expecting 3 to 6 outs. Just one-out at a time. He can turn a clean inning into a 3-Run Homer in a blink of eye right now.

Agree. Seen some good coaching moves right there.

Having Hunt back is huge. Losing 3 of top 5 pitchers (Sims, Simmons and KC) are killer for any pitching staff. At least KC back pushes another unreliable arm deeper in.

We need more players in the future to pan out, must get top notch guys in next portal cycle/freshmen. But this year, Yeager and Hines are flat out got it done. You may be talking about Hines like some other legends before he is done.

Don't look now but Forsythe is kinda coming around. I still think he could be a quality reliever and give some teams real trouble (with the changeup) and help us win a few more. It could even be the difference in post season or not. Imagine if he had pitched the Fristoe innings, I bet we win a few of those.