National Champ Dawgs vs Corndogs game thread

[BayouDawg]

I keep thinking this team is about to turn the corner and it keeps not happening. Running out of time.

Its a big corner lol

[EdwardDrayton]

Just too many weaknesses to win consistently. And it?s in all phases. Love my Dawgs and it pains me to say but we?re simply an average team so far this year. Some of it seemingly can be fixed; walks given for example seems a controllable variable and also seems our hitters should be capable of changing their approach at the plate at least in certain situations. But either Lemo and Gautreau aren?t coaching it (which is hard to imagine) or the players are not listening. It?s seemingly the same scenario we saw with basketball and Howland.

[maroonmania]

Hate what happened tonight but we are really hoping against hope to see THIS team win a game scoring 2 runs in the SEC. We just let WAY too many offensive opportunities get wasted tonight. What have we scored like 3 runs on Friday nights versus Georgia, Arkansas and LSU combined? Our bullpen sucks and we know it sucks so even asking them to protect a game we've only scored 2 runs in is a reach. I'm to the point now that I see that EVERY SEC game we win is probably going to be a struggle. We don't hit against competent pitching and we only have 1 or 2 reliable pitchers on the entire team. Thank goodness we pulled those 2 wins against Bama out of our rear ends or postseason would already be pretty much dead for us.

[The Federalist Engineer]

I think the problem is a lack of talent

I sincerely disagree, 2022 has more talent than MSU ever had in the 2010's.

The problem is super low Make Up.

John Cohen's players, less general talent but titanium testicles. JC had cats like Cody Brown, Jonathan Holder, Jacob Billingsley, and Ross Mitchell that would be at USM or South Alabama or LA Tech these days. These days, MSU has many electric arms with Xanax heads.

[OLJWales]

Demoralizing and Inexcusable. That's as Bad as it gets Boys. This is what Shit tastes like.

[SilentSteel16]

Tanner is absolutely not the dog we need him to be. Never has been the body language has never impressed me. His effort is it not always there either


Just too many weaknesses to win consistently. And it?s in all phases. Love my Dawgs and it pains me to say but we?re simply an average team so far this year. Some of it seemingly can be fixed; walks given for example seems a controllable variable and also seems our hitters should be capable of changing their approach at the plate at least in certain situations. But either Lemo and Gautreau aren?t coaching it (which is hard to imagine) or the players are not listening. It?s seemingly the same scenario we saw with basketball and Howland.

Nailed it… talent is there but not being utilized for some reason. May be a player confidence deal or something. But right now we are middle of the road and shouldn’t be. I still think we can make a regional.

[EdwardDrayton]

I keep thinking this team is about to turn the corner and it keeps not happening. Running out of time.

We hung in with basketball all season with this same idea.

[CaptainObvious]

Well, as long as some of us have been fans, we should have seen this coming getting beat 2 out of 3 by Long Beach, and losing a game to Northern Kentucky. If LSU wins the series, that will be 13 of the last 15 series lost to them. We may think it is a Rivalry, but that ain?t no more a Rivalry than us against Alabama.

I expect to get swept now, lose 2 of 3 to Auburn and call it a year. Cause we ain?t coming out of a 5-10 midway tail spin in the SEC. I just don?t think these guys have the sacks to turn it around. If you can?t hit off speed after 31 games in a 56 game season, you ain?t likely gonna correct that.

[CaptainObvious]

I sincerely disagree, 2022 has more talent than MSU ever had in the 2010's.

The problem is super low Make Up.

John Cohen's players, less general talent but titanium testicles. JC had cats like Cody Brown, Jonathan Holder, Jacob Billingsley, and Ross Mitchell that would be at USM or South Alabama or LA Tech these days. These days, MSU has many electric arms with Xanax heads.

I wish LoTan would have given Fristoe a Zanax right after he threw that 10 foot high fastball. He has a dang 1-2 count and 2 outs. And kept trying to bury that hard slider and the dude wasn?t swinging. 1-2, you go after him. If he hits it a mile it is tied. If he gets a single you still have the 9 hole guy up next.

Oh what the hell. If they had only tied it in the 9th they probably still would have won in extras. Because our 1-5 batters hit like most teams 6-9 batters. Poorly.

[CaptainObvious]

Why wasnt Skinner in CF in the 9th?. He probably catches the 3rd out.

Mangum would have got to it only because he always played shallow. We don?t have anyone on this team that would have got to that line drive. Morgan should have never got to the plate in the 9th.

[maroonmania]

Nailed it… talent is there but not being utilized for some reason. May be a player confidence deal or something. But right now we are middle of the road and shouldn’t be. I still think we can make a regional.

I think we have decent talent in the field BUT either the pitching staff (minus the 2 injuries) isn't very talented OR Foxhall is doing a piss poor job as our pitching coach. It 100% has to be one or the other.

[State82]

I just don?t think these guys have the sacks to turn it around. If you can?t hit off speed after 31 games in a 56 game season, you ain?t likely gonna correct that.

IF we do not win the next two then you are correct. And it will take a baseball miracle for that to come to fruition. These guys are sackless.

[SilentSteel16]

The two injuries was crippling for sure. Our best bullpen guy is now our Friday starter and granted he is doing a great job, but you need relievers just as much and right now I don’t know if our relievers have the confidence or the ability to forget the last pitch. I really believe Fristoe deal is a mental one. He has a very live arm and it will get him paid but not for long if he can’t get right between the ears.

Pitchers are a lot like field goal kickers, you are only as good as your next pitch or kick. You have to have a short memory and stay within yourself.

[EdwardDrayton]

The two injuries was crippling for sure. Our best bullpen guy is now our Friday starter and granted he is doing a great job, but you need relievers just as much and right now I don’t know if our relievers have the confidence or the ability to forget the last pitch. I really believe Fristoe deal is a mental one. He has a very live arm and it will get him paid but not for long if he can’t get right between the ears.

Pitchers are a lot like field goal kickers, you are only as good as your next pitch or kick. You have to have a short memory and stay within yourself.

Wish we could embrace a more balanced approach than power throwing and power swinging. Meaning more pitching and hitting.

[Homedawg]

How did we get to this point? I hear baseball recruiting is different, but man, we hired a recruiting ace at a top flight school... how is this not on lemonis? I'm not saying fire him or something stupid like that, but damn

Lemonis won't have a team full of his own recruits until about 2023.

[Homedawg]

Im afraid fristoe is what he is at this point. Id pack his shit for him.

He could be the next Dakota Hudson next year, or could be the next Evan Mitchell. Unfortunately, we just don't know.

[Homedawg]

Lemonis just looks different this year. He lost weight but he looks unhealthy. Something is off.

So you just type shit just because???

[Todd4State]

The two injuries was crippling for sure. Our best bullpen guy is now our Friday starter and granted he is doing a great job, but you need relievers just as much and right now I don’t know if our relievers have the confidence or the ability to forget the last pitch. I really believe Fristoe deal is a mental one. He has a very live arm and it will get him paid but not for long if he can’t get right between the ears.

Pitchers are a lot like field goal kickers, you are only as good as your next pitch or kick. You have to have a short memory and stay within yourself.

Well, Fristoe has allowed some walk offs already and come back from it and has pitched very well after those. Hopefully the same thing will happen again. All he can ask and hope for is another opportunity. It's just the nature of the game.

[Todd4State]

Wish we could embrace a more balanced approach than power throwing and power swinging. Meaning more pitching and hitting.

Me too. You know like we used to when we were winning championships.

[BayouDawg]

So you just type shit just because???

I thought he looks a little Ill. You struggle with reading comprehension? I forgot youre still under the impression that I need to run things by you before I post. You aint that important.

[Saltydog]

Good question Lee.

Here's a better question though, why didn't Lee flank?

[R2Dawg]

Wish we could embrace a more balanced approach than power throwing and power swinging. Meaning more pitching and hitting.

Only problem is we had 10 hits and 2 runs. We out hit them. Timing hitting was an issue, we left too many on base but hitting in general wasn't our problem last night.

The HR ball was affected early by the wind - probably cost us the game because that is the only way we've been winning.

[msstate7]

Lemonis won't have a team full of his own recruits until about 2023.

I guess it's bc I just don't follow baseball recruiting at all that I just don't understand it. Seems you could do the same thing Alabama does in football by stealing guys from lesser programs.

I do have to admit that losing one of the best pitchers in the county is no small deal. If we had sims, fristoe doesn't take the mound last night... sims, hunt, and brown are probably only guys we see.

I'm just frustrated... we started this season top 10, and as good as sims is, no 1 player drops a team from top 10 to no postseason at all.

[ImissCityBagel]

No words....other than wtf

[basedog]

We are what we are seeing. That loss last night deflated everyone, fans and players, also I feel for Fristoe, I wouldn't bring him in to close Sec games. He just doesn't look the part as a closer, lacks confidence which is needed to shut things down. Man the lack of timely hits is so bad, it is not looking much better moving forward. We look the part in unform but play like a bottom third of the Sec teams, which we are now. Sad to watch, I will say it again, way too much celebration from last year. I hate what I'm seeing and watching.

[R2Dawg]

We are what we are seeing. That loss last night deflated everyone, fans and players, also I feel for Fristoe, I wouldn't bring him in to close Sec games. He just doesn't look the part as a closer, lacks confidence which is needed to shut things down. Man the lack of timely hits is so bad, it is not looking much better moving forward. We look the part in unform but play like a bottom third of the Sec teams, which we are now. Sad to watch, I will say it again, way too much celebration from last year. I hate what I'm seeing and watching.

I hate it for Fristoe too like Mac last year. I can't imagine how he feels today. He was so pumped and wanted the last strike out for the mound moment but the moment he got was as bad as it gets.

I thought the ump may have squeezed a little on one pitch at bottom corner which he called a strike earlier that would have ended the game. It probably was a ball but a similar one earlier in inning was called a strike. I saw Fristoe prep recoil for the fist pump to end the game and ball. He melted from there.

[CaptainObvious]

I hate it for Fristoe too like Mac last year. I can't imagine how he feels today. He was so pumped and wanted the last strike out for the mound moment but the moment he got was as bad as it gets.

I thought the ump may have squeezed a little on one pitch at bottom corner which he called a strike earlier that would have ended the game. It probably was a ball but a similar one earlier in inning was called a strike. I saw Fristoe prep recoil for the fist pump to end the game and ball. He melted from there.

This is why most don?t think Fristoe has the temperament to be a closer. He had a 1-2 count and threw 3 straight breaking balls off the plate hoping to get a.swing or a close call. A power closer, with no one on base., 2 outs and 1-2 count, would go right after the guy with the heater inside part. When Fristoe didn?t get the call, he folded like an umbrella in a Hurricane.

[EdwardDrayton]

Only problem is we had 10 hits and 2 runs. We out hit them. Timing hitting was an issue, we left too many on base but hitting in general wasn't our problem last night.

The HR ball was affected early by the wind - probably cost us the game because that is the only way we've been winning.

We’re connecting sometimes but wouldn’t say there's much true hitting going on in terms of trying to cut down on the fierceness of the swing, making contact and trying to direct the ball. Especially not in clutch situations.

[R2Dawg]

This is why most don?t think Fristoe has the temperament to be a closer. He had a 1-2 count and threw 3 straight breaking balls off the plate hoping to get a.swing or a close call. A power closer, with no one on base., 2 outs and 1-2 count, would go right after the guy with the heater inside part. When Fristoe didn?t get the call, he folded like an umbrella in a Hurricane.

I still want to see Forsythe back out there. If he had closed last night, I think we go ahead and win.

[R2Dawg]

We’re connecting sometimes but wouldn’t say there's much true hitting going on in terms of trying to cut down on the fierceness of the swing, making contact and trying to direct the ball. Especially not in clutch situations.

Well I'm not how you define true hitting but we out hit them last night plain and simple. We left too many on base but that is another issue but if you say it is the same then we were short last night. We didn't get any HR last night which is what we do and that hurt a lot.

[EdwardDrayton]

Well I'm not how you define true hitting but we out hit them last night plain and simple. We left too many on base but that is another issue but if you say it is the same then we were short last night. We didn't get any HR last night which is what we do and that hurt a lot.

Think we’re on the same page R2. Yes, we seemingly more so try to power the ball and the percentages of making contact go down with that approach. Just would like to see us embrace a more balanced approach especially in clutch situations with RISP. Not only with more consistent contact but also with placement; e.g. hitting behind the baserunners.

[Percho]

This is why most don?t think Fristoe has the temperament to be a closer. He had a 1-2 count and threw 3 straight breaking balls off the plate hoping to get a.swing or a close call. A power closer, with no one on base., 2 outs and 1-2 count, would go right after the guy with the heater inside part. When Fristoe didn?t get the call, he folded like an umbrella in a Hurricane.

Who calls those pitches?

The coach, the catcher, the pitcher?