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Leroy Jenkins
04-02-2022, 06:46 PM
1-0 Dawgs bottom 1st

Leroy Jenkins
04-02-2022, 06:49 PM
So far Stinnett is in the zone, and the ump is giving a ball off the outside corner.

Percho
04-02-2022, 06:51 PM
IMHO that first inning is what is wrong with this team. Walks 3 with one out and Cumbest does not swing at two fast balls down which could have been hit opposite with the shift on

EdwardDrayton
04-02-2022, 06:53 PM
Not a bad first mind you. But we HAVE to do a better job with runners in scoring position. Especially when they?re given to you with walks. A little disappointing we only scratched one.

Percho
04-02-2022, 06:56 PM
I would send someone else to short now.

Leroy Jenkins
04-02-2022, 06:57 PM
Forsythe. B.A. and Slug are the same number. 7 hits 7 singles.

Saltydog
04-02-2022, 07:04 PM
If Stinnett can't locate the breaking ball, he's done. His fastball is very hittable now at 90-91,

EdwardDrayton
04-02-2022, 07:05 PM
Foxhall needs to remind our pitching staff home plate is there for a reason.

Leroy Jenkins
04-02-2022, 07:05 PM
We are going to walk a guy who is 0 for his last 17.

Leroy Jenkins
04-02-2022, 07:07 PM
We are going to walk a guy who is 0 for his last 17.

Aaaand we did

msstate7
04-02-2022, 07:08 PM
Shoulda just got out at 3b

Maroonthirteen
04-02-2022, 07:09 PM
He is choking. He is done

msstate7
04-02-2022, 07:11 PM
Braves baseball starts Thursday.

EdwardDrayton
04-02-2022, 07:11 PM
%#?!$&@

magrooder
04-02-2022, 07:12 PM
Unreal.

msstate7
04-02-2022, 07:12 PM
Evan Mitchell

BeardoMSU
04-02-2022, 07:12 PM
I'm just happy Parker always lives up to the opportunity to take us out of the game before it really starts. **** this guy folds like a cheap suit.

As I type, another hit batter and he follows it up with a wild pitch, lol.

**** this.

parabrave
04-02-2022, 07:12 PM
So if Pico throws a good game this week who does he replace??

Leroy Jenkins
04-02-2022, 07:13 PM
So far Stinnett is in the zone, and the ump is giving a ball off the outside corner.

Too soon?

BeardoMSU
04-02-2022, 07:13 PM
Evan Mitchell

Evan never had this long of a leash.

BeardoMSU
04-02-2022, 07:14 PM
Too soon?

That post just lived up to your Elite Dawg handle, lol.

Maroonthirteen
04-02-2022, 07:14 PM
He can't pitch to left handed because he relies on starting that curve over the plate and breaking outside (inside to lefty). However Arkansas LH are sitting on fastball.

Offshore Dawg
04-02-2022, 07:15 PM
Game could already be over in inning 2, there have been 3 walks and two HBP add in a wild pitch dawgs down 4 to 1. Still only two outs, pitching change.

BeardoMSU
04-02-2022, 07:16 PM
Every time Parker implodes I think of Kevin Costner in Tin Cup.

https://y.yarn.co/728cd130-12b6-4c22-ae1c-5071d6393d96_text.gif

HoopsDawg
04-02-2022, 07:16 PM
Wow. Just give the game away. 2 injuries shouldn't have us in this spot.

EdwardDrayton
04-02-2022, 07:17 PM
And what’s up with the don’t want to get my uni dirty or risk getting hurt baby tag attempt at the plate Parker?!!? Get 17n mean!!!!

Maroonthirteen
04-02-2022, 07:17 PM
I'd like to beat them in just one damn sport. Just one fn one.

msstate7
04-02-2022, 07:17 PM
Both my baseball teams (state and braves) fall in love with these great stuff guys that can't throw strikes. I understand the fascination, but control is important. Take lottery tickets on a couple, but get guys that can actually make hitters have to swing the bat

BeardoMSU
04-02-2022, 07:17 PM
Wow. Just give the game away. 2 injuries shouldn't have us in this spot.

This guy is the exact same guy he was last year. A lot of our guys are, actually.

OLJWales
04-02-2022, 07:17 PM
Getting 3 walks and scoring 1 is beyond pathetic.

CaptainObvious
04-02-2022, 07:18 PM
If I ever see Parker Stinnett on the mound in a State uniform again it will be too soon. I would be having pitching tryouts from any guy on the team that is a position player at this point. It is getting to be an embarrassment to be putting this team out there as the Defending National Champion that is this untalented or I?ll prepared.

It ain?t the players resting on their laurels. It is the coaching staff riding a free year being well paid after winning the Championship. Is Lemonis related to Gene Chizik?

BeardoMSU
04-02-2022, 07:18 PM
I'd like to beat them in just one damn sport. Just one fn one.

We beat Arky in mens BBall this year, fwiw.

Leroy Jenkins
04-02-2022, 07:18 PM
LOL. This play-by-play guy just said "uncharacteristic of Stinnett"

the_real_MSU_is_us
04-02-2022, 07:24 PM
LOL. This play-by-play guy just said "uncharacteristic of Stinnett"

For this year? Yes, it is. Stinnett had been averagi g like 1 walk every other inning

Percho
04-02-2022, 07:24 PM
I can promise you, if I coached, all, would practice hitting opposite field against the shift.

Saltydog
04-02-2022, 07:25 PM
Do we still have fans left that are thinking this team will have some kind of miracle turnaround or have people seen enough to be realistic and know this team is shit and isn't going anywhere? Our recruiting the last few years has been bad and that's pretty obvious IMO. You look at Arkansas and they have a freshman, a lefty at that, throwing 95. We don't have anyone on the team consistently throwing that hard, much less a freshman. Our pitching is comparable to an average mid major.

EdwardDrayton
04-02-2022, 07:25 PM
Here we go again. Starting off a game and can’t get one hit.

the_real_MSU_is_us
04-02-2022, 07:25 PM
Wow. Just give the game away. 2 injuries shouldn't have us in this spot.

3 injuries. You forgot KC Hunt.

Our Friday ace and Saturday starter are out, and the top reliever. Not many teams will be good after that happens to them

BeardoMSU
04-02-2022, 07:26 PM
For this year? Yes, it is. Stinnett had been averagi g like 1 walk every other inning

He still has a tendency to implode...

Offshore Dawg
04-02-2022, 07:26 PM
3 up 3 down, no point in prolonging the outcome

BeardoMSU
04-02-2022, 07:26 PM
Our top of the order coming out and going a quick 123 is pretty limp...

662dawg
04-02-2022, 07:28 PM
If I ever see Parker Stinnett on the mound in a State uniform again it will be too soon. I would be having pitching tryouts from any guy on the team that is a position player at this point. It is getting to be an embarrassment to be putting this team out there as the Defending National Champion that is this untalented or I?ll prepared.

It ain?t the players resting on their laurels. It is the coaching staff riding a free year being well paid after winning the Championship. Is Lemonis related to Gene Chizik?

The Stinnett starting experiment should definitely be about over lol. Go with some young arms. You can?t get much worse results. We should just back to Fristoe. Go Fristoe on Friday night, Smith in Saturday?s & Hunt on Sundays. Get Preston back in the pen to give us innings on Friday night & again maybe Sunday.

Ranchdawg
04-02-2022, 07:30 PM
Foxhall and Gotro this is your fault and I?m angry about it!

I don’t like being laughed at!

Maroonthirteen
04-02-2022, 07:30 PM
These dudes are so scared of Arkansas. Scared to pitch to them.

Saltydog
04-02-2022, 07:31 PM
3 injuries. You forgot KC Hunt.

Our Friday ace and Saturday starter are out, and the top reliever. Not many teams will be good after that happens to them

Hunt's back and maybe a bit rusty but Memphis knocked his shit around Tuesday night.

msstate7
04-02-2022, 07:32 PM
Honest question... did our coaches and players spend more time this offseason signing posters or getting ready for this season?

Maroonthirteen
04-02-2022, 07:33 PM
I can promise you, if I coached, all, would practice hitting opposite field against the shift.

I'm really surprised there isn't more opposite field hitting against this shift. I've paid attention to the pitches too. These pitchers are throwing some stuff down the middle and outside on occasion. It isn't like a steady diet of inside fastballs and no opportunity to go the other way.

It isn't just Miss St either. All these teams are trying to hit it through the shift.

Maroonthirteen
04-02-2022, 07:35 PM
Well there you go. Battles goes opposite field.... kinda.

Oh well.... good night

OLJWales
04-02-2022, 07:36 PM
Honest question... did our coaches and players spend more time this offseason signing posters or getting ready for this season?

I've asked the same question. There was no sense of urgency in the off season is what it looks like. 3 month cruise aboard The Good Ship Lollipop.

msstate7
04-02-2022, 07:36 PM
We have a long way to go. I still think we can get this turned around, but if we don't, Lemonis has to own it. Last year was great, and I'll always appreciate it, but last year doesn't excuse a turd season. Fix this shit

EdwardDrayton
04-02-2022, 07:36 PM
.187 hitter without one hit this year goes yard for his first one. Sheesh.

Announcer said that but how’s that possible.

Saltydog
04-02-2022, 07:38 PM
We have a long way to go. I still think we can get this turned around, but if we don't, Lemonis has to own it. Last year was great, and I'll always appreciate it, but last year doesn't excuse a turd season. Fix this shit

We gonna turn it around like in basketball.....

The Federalist Engineer
04-02-2022, 07:38 PM
With Runners in Scoring Position batters hitting 440 on Tullar

The Federalist Engineer
04-02-2022, 07:39 PM
.187 hitter without one hit this year goes yard for his first one. Sheesh.

Left Handed Hitters feats on Tullar, poor kid probably has a 20 ERA in the SEC

msstate7
04-02-2022, 07:40 PM
We gonna turn it around like in basketball.....

Our basketball team was much better than this baseball team

Activated Alpha
04-02-2022, 07:40 PM
Bottom of the SEC here we come

662dawg
04-02-2022, 07:42 PM
Ok wether they are ready or not, it?s time to go with the young guys & get ready for next year. This isn?t the same kind of team we had last year.

EdwardDrayton
04-02-2022, 07:43 PM
We gonna turn it around like in basketball.....

Yeah we bought into that schlock the entire basketball season.

KOdawg1
04-02-2022, 07:43 PM
I said it a few weeks ago, and I'll say it again. This team isn't good.

They could be. They have the talent (at least with the bats). But for some reason, the pitchers we have left haven't progressed (besides Cade) and the same can be said about some of our bats.

Gonna be a tough year next year too unless we get some help in the portal.

msstate7
04-02-2022, 07:44 PM
I said it a few weeks ago, and I'll say it again. This team isn't good.

They could be. They have the talent (at least with the bats). But for some reason, the pitchers we have left haven't progressed (besides Cade) and the same can be said about some of our bats.

Gonna be a tough year next year too unless we get some help in the portal.

If we have 2 turd seasons in a row, lemonis won't be here for the 3rd

maroonmania
04-02-2022, 07:45 PM
We have a long way to go. I still think we can get this turned around, but if we don't, Lemonis has to own it. Last year was great, and I'll always appreciate it, but last year doesn't excuse a turd season. Fix this shit

It just seems at MState we aren't allowed anything nice or at least not for very long. We are likely going to follow a NC year in baseball with a year where we don't even make the postseason. Hard to believe we started the year ranked in the top 10.

msstate7
04-02-2022, 07:46 PM
We feast on garbage pitching. If you have decent pitching, we have no offense

KOdawg1
04-02-2022, 07:48 PM
If we have 2 turd seasons in a row, lemonis won't be here for the 3rd

I don't think we'll fire our NC winning coach even after two bad years. He's built up some security, but he better get shit going in a hurry.

Offshore Dawg
04-02-2022, 07:48 PM
Again no point in prolonging your turn at bat.

maroonmania
04-02-2022, 07:48 PM
Arkansas is scoring 2 runs per hit in this game and we haven't even made an error! That is ridiculous.

ImissCityBagel
04-02-2022, 07:49 PM
We are bad.

HoopsDawg
04-02-2022, 07:51 PM
Did Lemonis get hit in the head by a foul ball? Only explanation I can come up with for continuing to trot Tullar out there.

EdwardDrayton
04-02-2022, 07:52 PM
I said it a few weeks ago, and I'll say it again. This team isn't good.

They could be. They have the talent (at least with the bats). But for some reason, the pitchers we have left haven't progressed (besides Cade) and the same can be said about some of our bats.

Gonna be a tough year next year too unless we get some help in the portal.

Yeah we kept ourselves going all basketball season with this narrative. We have the talent and they?ll come around we said. Nope, not doing it again. This team doesn?t have it and it?s not going to happen.

Offshore Dawg
04-02-2022, 07:52 PM
Turn out the lights the party is over !!!!!!

KOdawg1
04-02-2022, 07:52 PM
Did Lemonis get hit in the head by a foul ball? Only explanation I can come up with for continuing to trot Tullar out there.

Literally could go find a student on campus that used to pitch in high school that would be better.

Activated Alpha
04-02-2022, 07:52 PM
Shall I dare turn it on to witness or suckage?

HoopsDawg
04-02-2022, 07:52 PM
3 injuries. You forgot KC Hunt.

Our Friday ace and Saturday starter are out, and the top reliever. Not many teams will be good after that happens to them

Boy, that's a reach. First off KC Hunt is back. Secondly, not many had him penciled in as our Saturday starter before the season. And no one was calling Stone Simmons our top reliever either. That was Preston Johnson.

662dawg
04-02-2022, 07:53 PM
Did Lemonis get hit in the head by a foul ball? Only explanation I can come up with for continuing to trot Tullar out there.

There are certain situations where we should pitch him. Like when we are up at least 10 runs.

Bass Chaser
04-02-2022, 07:55 PM
There are certain situations where we should pitch him. Like when we are up at least 10 runs.

I disagree. He should never pitch again.

HoopsDawg
04-02-2022, 07:56 PM
It just seems at MState we aren't allowed anything nice or at least not for very long. We are likely going to follow a NC year in baseball with a year where we don't even make the postseason. Hard to believe we started the year ranked in the top 10.

Well, we started 6 guys tonight out of 9 that started in Omaha. And we replaced Tanner Allen, Rowdey, and Duburule with Hunter Hines, RJ Yeager and Matt Corder. Obviously that's a drop off but shouldn't be terrible if the other 6 guys improve.

The big issue is our pitching coach, Sim injury, and our evaluation and recruiting of pitchers.

Leroy Jenkins
04-02-2022, 07:56 PM
https://media4.giphy.com/media/SpPVAQT0mQXzq/giphy.gif?cid=6c09b9521c144c1a4af2b9eb60b6de545b4f cc30de0b338e&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g

CadaverDawg
04-02-2022, 07:56 PM
I'm sorry, but losing two pitchers isn't the cause for this suck fest of a season. What the hell is going on? We are too talented to be this awful, guys. I hope Lemonis isn't going to turn out to be Larry Coker.

HoopsDawg
04-02-2022, 07:56 PM
There are certain situations where we should pitch him. Like when we are up at least 10 runs.

Lemonis must have liked the splits.

CadaverDawg
04-02-2022, 07:58 PM
Boy, that's a reach. First off KC Hunt is back. Secondly, not many had him penciled in as our Saturday starter before the season. And no one was calling Stone Simmons our top reliever either. That was Preston Johnson.

Yep. It's concerning that a team this talented is playing this horribly. The coaches need to get their shit together

HoopsDawg
04-02-2022, 07:58 PM
I'm sorry, but losing two pitchers isn't the cause for this suck fest of a season. What the hell is going on? We are too talented to be this awful, guys. I hope Lemonis isn't going to turn out to be Larry Coker.

Can you imagine if Notre Dame had played error free defense in the Super Regional like they had all year? I would be ready for Lemonis and Cohen to be fired immediately.

EdwardDrayton
04-02-2022, 07:59 PM
So far through 13 innings this weekend we’re down 18-2.

ImissCityBagel
04-02-2022, 07:59 PM
Shall I dare turn it on to witness or suckage?

How much bourbon have you drank?

Bass Chaser
04-02-2022, 08:00 PM
We are not competing in any phase of the game.

magrooder
04-02-2022, 08:03 PM
Lead off triple, we may double our score

HoopsDawg
04-02-2022, 08:05 PM
Shall I dare turn it on to witness or suckage?

Only thing worth watching at this point is to see if KC Hunt can command the zone and give us a ray of hope.

99jc
04-02-2022, 08:06 PM
Yet there are those that that truly believe we will make a super-regional....dumb ass 17s

magrooder
04-02-2022, 08:06 PM
Hancock homer

HoopsDawg
04-02-2022, 08:07 PM
I can't take our SS hitting anymore. Let's give Slate Alford some AB's this game and move Yeager over.

The Federalist Engineer
04-02-2022, 08:11 PM
I can't take our SS hitting anymore. Let's give Slate Alford some AB's this game and move Yeager over.

When you are getting blown out, that 1-Run that Forsythe is not so meaningful

But LF also needs the ABs to develop

EdwardDrayton
04-02-2022, 08:12 PM
I can't take our SS hitting anymore. Let's give Slate Alford some AB's this game and move Yeager over.

We should not be twenty-five games into the season still dealing with this. Should have tried SOMETHING else already.

OLJWales
04-02-2022, 08:13 PM
Pigs can pitch Meat Samiches now and not even worry about it.

662dawg
04-02-2022, 08:14 PM
When you are getting blown out, that 1-Run that Forsythe is not so meaningful

But LF also needs the ABs to develop

Move LF to pitching permanently. He?s never gonna be a hitter. Find another SS in the portal next year. We would be better off giving Alford or Meche some AB?s this year instead of LF.

HoopsDawg
04-02-2022, 08:16 PM
We should not be twenty-five games into the season still dealing with this. Should have tried SOMETHING else already.

what the f are you talking about?

the_real_MSU_is_us
04-02-2022, 08:16 PM
It's more effort than I care to do, but I'd love to see some satistical comparisons this year vs last year of the returning guys.

Clark and Cumbest seem better, but Cumbest historically had no reps or fall practice so I think he'd improve from reps alone. I can't give Jake G credit for cumbest, is my point.

Other than that, who is better? Lotan, Hancock, Forsythe, James, Leggett... im not going to dig into stats but they dont look better, some look worse.

And pitching wise I feel we could do the same. Returning guys just didn't fix any flaws or take the next step.

EdwardDrayton
04-02-2022, 08:16 PM
Lane has had PLENTY of ABs. Time to unsaddle that horse and put it in the barn.

HoopsDawg
04-02-2022, 08:17 PM
great play Kam James.

HoopsDawg
04-02-2022, 08:18 PM
what the f are you talking about?

sorry meant to reply to Federalist.

msstate7
04-02-2022, 08:20 PM
Few things make me ready to see the mike leach offense, but this baseball team is one of them

EdwardDrayton
04-02-2022, 08:22 PM
what the f are you talking about?

Shortstop

the_real_MSU_is_us
04-02-2022, 08:23 PM
Lane has had PLENTY of ABs. Time to unsaddle that horse and put it in the barn.

2/3rds of last season as the full time starter, the off-season, and almost all of this season. Yeah I don't know what lack of "reps" people can complain about. Every time he bats, he looks like a clueless scared puppy that knows he's about to be beaten up by his owner but doesn't understand its because he was chewing on the chair leg

HoopsDawg
04-02-2022, 08:25 PM
I was kind of hoping we would stretch KC out there, but I guess we are being careful. He looked decent. Actually looked good other than the homer.

EdwardDrayton
04-02-2022, 08:28 PM
sorry meant to reply to Federalist.

No worries Hoops. Yeah Lane has had plenty of reps to show everybody something.

WSOPdawg
04-02-2022, 08:29 PM
Few things make me ready to see the mike leach offense, but this baseball team is one of them

lol, that's damn funny right there, 7 !!!

ImissCityBagel
04-02-2022, 08:42 PM
This hurts more than an expected football loss for some reason.

I knew we would take a step back with pitching, but we have the talent for ppl to step up. Some of our batters have gotten worse.....

msstate7
04-02-2022, 08:48 PM
How do we not have a 1b that can hit?

Cooterpoot
04-02-2022, 08:50 PM
This team is ridiculously bad. This is a shit show!

the_real_MSU_is_us
04-02-2022, 08:59 PM
How do we not have a 1b that can hit?

There is no amount of "coaching turnover" that justifies this recruiting failure.

We have a short converted catcher that can't hit at 1B.

That is not excusable no matter the coach. It's too easy to grab someone better.

EdwardDrayton
04-02-2022, 09:04 PM
Not to try and introduce false hope but we do have twenty-eight games left before the SECT. If we can manage .500 that’ll give us thirty wins and gives us a good chance to make a regional as #3 or #4. I’d be satisfied with that at this juncture.

Skydawg1
04-02-2022, 09:06 PM
We can win the LSU series next weekend, they are nothing special.

ImissCityBagel
04-02-2022, 09:08 PM
We don't look hungry anymore.

FriarsPoint
04-02-2022, 09:10 PM
Not to try and introduce false hope but we do have twenty-eight games left before the SECT. If we can manage .500 that’ll give us thirty wins and gives us a good chance to make a regional as #3 or #4. I’d be satisfied with that at this juncture.

I’m sorry. That’s false hope. Alabama is improving. Auburn just won the series at lsu. Missouri was able to beat Arkansas once. That leaves us and Carolina battling it out for the cellar.

Shit needs to improve. And quick.

EdwardDrayton
04-02-2022, 09:20 PM
I’m sorry. That’s false hope. Alabama is improving. Auburn just won the series at lsu. Missouri was able to beat Arkansas once. That leaves us and Carolina battling it out for the cellar.

Shit needs to improve. And quick.

Maybe. Maybe not. Even now don’t see us losing every series. We’ll see if there’s any fight in these Dawgs tomorrow. But bottom line it’s still not too late to make the postseason.

HoopsDawg
04-02-2022, 09:22 PM
Welp, tomorrow we've got Cade Smith, Brandon Smith and Pico Kohn available. That's about the best we've got. Just have to find a way to salvage a Sunday victory.

As for today, the defense was good-particularly Kam James. KC is working his way back which is a positive. And it might have been a ball game if we made different pitching decisions.

The Federalist Engineer
04-02-2022, 09:23 PM
what the f are you talking about?

I'm talking about the WAR narrative for playing a Sub Mendoza, Defensive SS. The defensive SS is supposed to save you 1 or 2 runs. A national championship was just won with this logic.

In blow out loses, those "saved" runs lose meaning. Also implied is competitive pitching.

CadaverDawg
04-02-2022, 09:24 PM
Lemonis and company need to hear quickly how unacceptable this effort is from Mississippi State Baseball. Fix this shit.

FriarsPoint
04-02-2022, 09:27 PM
Tennessee is going to run away with the league title this year. No question. How that plays out postseason is anybodys guess. Still, they’ll win their first league title in decades.

State82
04-02-2022, 09:28 PM
This team is ridiculously bad. This is a shit show!

Yes it is. And the talent gap between us and a few others is inexcusable.

HoopsDawg
04-02-2022, 09:30 PM
Lemonis and company need to hear quickly how unacceptable this effort is from Mississippi State Baseball. Fix this shit.

I mean Lemonis/Foxall have to be better. B2, Stinnett walks 3 in a row, gets an out and then hits a batter...I'm taking him out. That just isn't going to get the job done. But we leave him in to give up a single, another hit by pitch, and a Wild pitch to give up another run. Then we've got Brandon Smith and Tullar in the pen getting ready and we go to Tullar and he gives up 6 earned runs. I hope that Brandon Smith didn't feel tightness or anything b/c that was a mind-boggling decision.

Saltydog
04-02-2022, 09:30 PM
We can win the LSU series next weekend, they are nothing special.

They will knock our teeth in........Expect them to score, IN BUNCHES......

the_real_MSU_is_us
04-02-2022, 09:31 PM
Meanwhile the TN Saturday starter (who may be their Sunday guy once their injured starter gets back) is about to throw a complete game and hit 96mph on his 100th pitch. They're now pulli g him for a lefty that's better than any lefty reliever we've had since Jacob Lingren.

Why is it that TN can find, recruit, and develop so many good guys while we can't? Are we bad at scouting? Bad at developing?

HoopsDawg
04-02-2022, 09:33 PM
Yes it is. And the talent gap between us and a few others is inexcusable.

I'm trying to think of a way for us to get into a regional. I think it involves Preston Johnson back in the bullpen to be available for games we have a chance of winning. He's not going to win many Friday night battles. Maybe move Stinnett to Friday's. If he can throw strikes, we have a chance and we can bring in PJ. If he is off, we throw off like we did last night.

Then Cade on Saturdays with KC on Sundays. Again with PJ ready to come in and finish it out. Then we still have Brandon Smith and Auger as guys that I trust.

HoopsDawg
04-02-2022, 09:35 PM
Meanwhile the TN Saturday starter (who may be their Sunday guy once their injured starter gets back) is about to throw a complete game and hit 96mph on his 100th pitch. They're now pulli g him for a lefty that's better than any lefty reliever we've had since Jacob Lingren.

Why is it that TN can find, recruit, and develop so many good guys while we can't? Are we bad at scouting? Bad at developing?

I can tell you from Personal Experience that TN is outworking us and almost everyone. They also are great evaluators and developers. It's incredible how hard they recruit. It seems we are a tad...I don't want to say lazy...but a little more laid back than TN. And TN is more liberal with their offers.

EdwardDrayton
04-02-2022, 09:43 PM
I'm talking about the WAR narrative for playing a Sub Mendoza, Defensive SS. The defensive SS is supposed to save you 1 or 2 runs. A national championship was just won with this logic.

In blow out loses, those "saved" runs lose meaning. Also implied is competitive pitching.

Had forgotten about WAR values and can see the merit. But Lane had 43 hits in 59 games last year so wasn?t close to sub Mendoza. With only 7 hits in 21 games so far, not sure his WAR value would be such to justify keeping him over a replacement player.

the_real_MSU_is_us
04-02-2022, 09:45 PM
I can tell you from Personal Experience that TN is outworking us and almost everyone. They also are great evaluators and developers. It's incredible how hard they recruit. It seems we are a tad...I don't want to say lazy...but a little more laid back than TN. And TN is more liberal with their offers.

Lemones was sold as an elite recruiter. If he's going to offer the wrong kids and lose recruiting battles due to his own laziness I will sour on him quick

CadaverDawg
04-02-2022, 09:46 PM
I can tell you from Personal Experience that TN is outworking us and almost everyone. They also are great evaluators and developers. It's incredible how hard they recruit. It seems we are a tad...I don't want to say lazy...but a little more laid back than TN. And TN is more liberal with their offers.

It shows

The Federalist Engineer
04-02-2022, 09:51 PM
Had forgotten about WAR values and can see the merit. But Lane had 43 hits in 59 games last year so wasn?t close to sub Mendoza. With only 7 hits in 21 games so far, not sure his WAR value would be such to justify keeping him over a replacement player.

Defensive WAR for a SS doesn't mean much with 11 walks and balls flying 10 feet over the fences.

MSU only had 5 hits today and 4 hits yesterday, let that soak in.

Apoplectic
04-02-2022, 09:56 PM
Lane has had PLENTY of ABs. Time to unsaddle that horse and put it in the barn.

Scholarship thief tomorrow. Enough of this bullshit. Time to nutt up and kick these pu55ies in the teeth

EdwardDrayton
04-02-2022, 09:59 PM
I'm trying to think of a way for us to get into a regional. I think it involves Preston Johnson back in the bullpen to be available for games we have a chance of winning. He's not going to win many Friday night battles. Maybe move Stinnett to Friday's. If he can throw strikes, we have a chance and we can bring in PJ. If he is off, we throw off like we did last night.

Then Cade on Saturdays with KC on Sundays. Again with PJ ready to come in and finish it out. Then we still have Brandon Smith and Auger as guys that I trust.

That is THE question. What do we do to play at least .500 ball the rest of the way and make a regional. Think I’d wait on moving PJ back just yet. But we have to do something at shortstop.

EdwardDrayton
04-02-2022, 10:07 PM
Defensive WAR for a SS doesn't mean much with 11 walks and balls flying 10 feet over the fences.

MSU only had 5 hits today and I hits yesterday, let that soak in.

LOL. Yep. Very true. But was thinking (hoping) this is not indicative of how we’ll perform in every series. Lord help us if it turns out to be a foreshadowing.

HoopsDawg
04-02-2022, 10:10 PM
That is THE question. What do we do to play at least .500 ball the rest of the way and make a regional. Think I’d wait on moving PJ back just yet. But we have to do something at shortstop.

We need to have 2 SEC games stacked with Cade Smith, Preston Johnson, KC Hunt, Brandon Smith, Kohn and Augur. Those are our best 6 guys. We just don't have much of a chance on Friday nights and it's a waste of PJ's talents.

the_real_MSU_is_us
04-02-2022, 10:18 PM
We need to have 2 SEC games stacked with Cade Smith, Preston Johnson, KC Hunt, Brandon Smith, Kohn and Augur. Those are our best 6 guys. We just don't have much of a chance on Friday nights and it's a waste of PJ's talents.

Makes sense to me. Sims and Simmons together probably add about 8 innings of quality pitching a weekend. Take them out, and it makes sense we'd only have 2 games of SEC pitching available. Tullar is BP and I do t understand why he is ever out there. Walling, Cheatham, Walker, literally get ANYONE with real arm talent some reps. Maybe they can help us next year. Tullar and his 89mph fb has no business ever being in an SEC uniform while on the mound. That's mean to say but it's true.

The Federalist Engineer
04-02-2022, 10:24 PM
LOL. Yep. Very true. But was thinking (hoping) this is not indicative of how we’ll perform in every series. Lord help us if it turns out to be a foreshadowing.

MSU is an 0-8 streak with Arkansas. With the COVID year skipped over. 3-11 in the last 5 series. Arkansas is definitely our most brutal matchup in recent years.

BayouDawg
04-02-2022, 10:39 PM
At the very least GoTro has to go. Foxhall sucks this year too. Lemonis doesnt look healthy. Something has to be going on.

Skydawg1
04-02-2022, 10:48 PM
MSU is an 0-8 streak with Arkansas. With the COVID year skipped over. 3-11 in the last 5 series. Arkansas is definitely our most brutal matchup in recent years.We have always been their Super Bowl. Add us winning the Natty first, their heads exploded. 20 years with Dave Van Polk will do that to a fanbase.

Skydawg1
04-02-2022, 10:49 PM
At the very least GoTro has to go. Foxhall sucks this year too. Lemonis doesnt look healthy. Something has to be going on.Skinny Lem is not getting it done.

BayouDawg
04-02-2022, 10:50 PM
Skinny Lem is not getting it done.

Hes as bad as skinny Don

Skydawg1
04-02-2022, 10:53 PM
Hes as bad as skinny DonIf he starts running marathons, we're in trouble.

FriarsPoint
04-02-2022, 11:23 PM
We have always been their Super Bowl. Add us winning the Natty first, their heads exploded. 20 years with Dave Van Polk will do that to a fanbase.

Some may brush this off, there’s a kernel of truth there.

EdwardDrayton
04-03-2022, 12:11 AM
If he starts running marathons, we're in trouble.

It just never gets old making fun of Donnie Mullins. Nor Scoot Stricken.

Barkman Turner Overdrive
04-03-2022, 07:35 AM
We don't look hungry anymore.

Especially not LoTan. Is he trying to secure an NIL deal with The Grill for cheese sticks?

R2Dawg
04-03-2022, 07:46 AM
We need to have 2 SEC games stacked with Cade Smith, Preston Johnson, KC Hunt, Brandon Smith, Kohn and Augur. Those are our best 6 guys. We just don't have much of a chance on Friday nights and it's a waste of PJ's talents.

This must happen if we are serious about making post season. We can't wait anymore. We gotta have some wins or the MBB NIT run will be out last post season of the sports year.