Dawgs vs. Dawgs - Game 1 Thread

[KOdawg1]

Lineup for MSU:

1. Davis CF
2. James 3B
3. Hines DH
4. LoTan C
5. Hancock 1B
6. Clark RF
7. Cumbest LF
8. Yeager 2B
9. Leggett SS

Preston Johnson on the mound.

[KOdawg1]

The rain has apparently moved out of Athens. Should be all clear for some Friday night SEC baseball.

Game is on the SECN for those with cable btw. Don't have to stream it.

[OLJWales]

How good is UGA?

[662dawg]

How good is UGA?

14-3 ranked #20 & #2 in RPI.

[OLJWales]

14-3 ranked #20 & #2 in RPI.

Gracias.

[KOdawg1]

How good is UGA?

https://www.warrennolan.com/baseball/2022/schedule/Georgia

RPI isn't the best indicator this early, but they're number 1 so far. They lost a series to Georgia Tech and then dropped a game to Georgia Southern, but other than that, they've won all their games. The pitcher we'll see tonight, Jonathan Cannon, is a legit SEC ace. Probably will be a 2nd-4th round MLB draft pick. UGA teams in recent years could pitch it but couldn't get it done with the bats, but this team seems to be better at the plate. It'll be a challenge for us to go in and win 2, but we really need to.

[BrunswickDawg]

Good number of Real Dogs here in Athens!

[OLJWales]

https://www.warrennolan.com/baseball/2022/schedule/Georgia

RPI isn't the best indicator this early, but they're number 1 so far. They lost a series to Georgia Tech and then dropped a game to Georgia Southern, but other than that, they've won all their games. The pitcher we'll see tonight, Jonathan Cannon, is a legit SEC ace. Probably will be a 2nd-4th round MLB draft pick. UGA teams in recent years could pitch it but couldn't get it done with the bats, but this team seems to be better at the plate. It'll be a challenge for us to go in and win 2, but we really need to.

Good stuff. Thank You.

[OLJWales]

Good number of Real Dogs here in Athens!

You at the game?

[BrunswickDawg]

You at the game?

Yep

https://i.postimg.cc/NFPJsr4S/3-FDA104-E-FB3-E-4-C2-E-B550-0-C61-C514506-D.jpg

[KOdawg1]

Yep

https://i.postimg.cc/NFPJsr4S/3-FDA104-E-FB3-E-4-C2-E-B550-0-C61-C514506-D.jpg

Give em hell

[KOdawg1]

3 weak ABs to start the game. Just defensive swings.

[KOdawg1]

PJ gets a leadoff K

[KOdawg1]

PJ gets a 3 pitch K to the 2nd guy.

[magrooder]

PJ doing his best sims impression in the bottom of the first.

[KOdawg1]

Beef just went beast mode and carved them the crap up. 3 Ks.

To the top of the 2nd we go.

[SaintDawg]

damn PJ!

[EdwardDrayton]

Yep

https://i.postimg.cc/NFPJsr4S/3-FDA104-E-FB3-E-4-C2-E-B550-0-C61-C514506-D.jpg

Can you obnoxiously whistle? ****

[BeardoMSU]

PJ came to ****.

[KOdawg1]

This dude has 4 pitches and throws them wherever and whenever he wants to. That's gonna be a problem for us.

[KOdawg1]

1-0 UGA.

Here we go.

[magrooder]

Lead off homer for Georgia

[Saltydog]

Yeah, Preston's gonna have to really pitch well tonight because I don't think we're going to score too many.

[magrooder]

Good hustle from Kellum to make that catch

[EdwardDrayton]

News break after three ABs:

It’s official. Florida hires Todd Golden.

[KOdawg1]

Our best hope is to just work his pitch count and hope whoever they bring in in the later innings isn't as unhittable, because this dude is making us look silly.

[Activated Alpha]

Our best hope is to just work his pitch count and hope whoever they bring in in the later innings isn't as unhittable, because this dude is making us look silly.

For a second I thought I was reading the Grambling thread......

[KOdawg1]

That's on Kam. If he lets Yeager get it, it's an out

[CaptainObvious]

Our best hope is to just work his pitch count and hope whoever they bring in in the later innings isn't as unhittable, because this dude is making us look silly.

Well, he is averaging 12 pitches per inning, so we got some work to do to work that pitch count

[BuckyIsAB****]

Stupid play there

[BrunswickDawg]

Damn it Kam you had all day

[magrooder]

James with a throwing error GA up 2-0

[BuckyIsAB****]

DH or bench he has done nothing to deserve to start so far this year

[KOdawg1]

Yippy Kam has entered the chat

[msstate7]

Damn, with our offense, that's a killer

[Leroy Jenkins]

James!

[BayouDawg]

Kam should have been benched last year. How he keeps a starting job stinks of daddy knows somebody.

[KOdawg1]

Good K by PJ.

Kam single handedly give Georgia a run. He needs to make up for that with his bat.

[662dawg]

DH or bench he has done nothing to deserve to start so far this year

I?d rather have him in LF than at 3rd. He?s going to kill us this year at 3rd. I?ll trade Alfords bat & defense at 3rd over Davis & his defense in CF.

[msstate7]

Scratch a run, dawgs

[EdwardDrayton]

You throw the ball, you catch the ball, …………… sometimes it rains.

[magrooder]

Good K by PJ.

Kam single handedly give Georgia a run. He needs to make up for that with his bat.

I have not a lot of confidence in that

[CaptainObvious]

Not that damaging. You have to score runs to win in this conference. If we can?t hit and score multiple runs we don?t deserve to win.

[BayouDawg]

If we finish 13th in batting a change has to be made at hitting coach.

[CaptainObvious]

I see our problem sitting at the end oft he dugout. The Blonde Georgia Ball Girl. I know I would be distracted.😎😎

[BayouDawg]

Kam James frustrates the hell out of me.

[KOdawg1]

We suq

[BayouDawg]

We may go 27 up 27 down. Not even making this pitcher break a sweat

[StarkVegasSteve]

This game is following our script for the season. Meat a 1-2 pitch, Kam James makes an error, we look like a little league team at the plate.

Wash, Rinse, Repeat

[Maroonthirteen]

Dayum. This team is in its own head. Butt hole tighter than ... anyways.

I wish I would have mortgaged the whole double wide and took in every game in Omaha last year.

[StarkVegasSteve]

If we finish 13th in batting a change has to be made at hitting coach.

If we do not get miles better we will finish 14th. And unless we make those drastic improvements it is time for Gautreau to go.

[BeardoMSU]

Our bats need to wake tf up.

[OLJWales]

Nobody's Grinding for our STATE like last year. From HC on down to the players.

[BeardoMSU]

Lead off double for Logan. Lets get into this dude.

[KOdawg1]

Leadoff double!!!

[StarkVegasSteve]

They might as well walk Kellum so they can face Cumbest.

[BeardoMSU]

I thought Kellum had that one....damn.

[BayouDawg]

That was a great adjustment by LT from his first to second AB.

[BeardoMSU]

Kellum K's. 2 outs. Logan at 3rd.

[KOdawg1]

Andddd we're gonna choke it away

[BeardoMSU]

And Brad fouls-out, lol. God we suck.

[msstate7]

We might be quite horrible

[BayouDawg]

Runner on 3rd less than 2 outs and dont score. Pathetic

[KOdawg1]

Piss poor

[BuckyIsAB****]

That is probably ball game

[State82]

That was a couple of 17ing awful plate appearances

[BuckyIsAB****]

Cumbest has become Cumworst

[CaptainObvious]

And Brad fouls-out, lol. God we suck.

In the first pitch no less. Apparently Geaut is scared of these guys. Otherwise, he would be jacking their ass up about not being patient.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Start Corder, Downs and maybe Clark, although you could convince me to start Seibert, in the outfield. Alford at 3B. Time to get rid of the dead weight upperclassman.

[EdwardDrayton]

So far a little foul power sprinkled with weak rollovers.

[Saltydog]

Who was it here spouting before the year that this team was better offensively than last year? I don't see this team finishing any higher than 6th in the West.

[KOdawg1]

Ballgame.

[BuckyIsAB****]

If anyone still thinks we are going to a regional you are high

[Activated Alpha]

Yeah that?s game. We really might be worse than the 15 team

[Saltydog]

And therein lies the issue with Preston. He will give up the long ball.

[BayouDawg]

Welp time to watch some March madness. This baseball team is the worst since 2015

[Homedawg]

Start Corder, Downs and maybe Clark, although you could convince me to start Seibert, in the outfield. Alford at 3B. Time to get rid of the dead weight upperclassman.

Downs has 8k in 18 ab against non conference. He's going to be good but he isn't ready either.

[CaptainObvious]

This is not going to be a good year for baseball guys. It?s just not. 0-2 meat ball gets a base hit with 2 outs and then a 0-1 nest ball finds the trees. This team ain?t good enough with the bats to make up for bad pitches.

[Homedawg]

Start Corder, Downs and maybe Clark, although you could convince me to start Seibert, in the outfield. Alford at 3B. Time to get rid of the dead weight upperclassman.

Yeah put in guys that will do worse. Great idea. Smdh.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Yeah that?s game. We really might be worse than the 15 team

Unless we come out with our hair on fire the last 4 innings, Gautreau needs to go. Our hitting is beyond awful.

[BeardoMSU]

Yep, we gotta change some things, bc we blow.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Yeah put in guys that will do worse. Great idea. Smdh.

How could they do worse? The current starters are not hitting and making errors. What could those guys do that was worse?

[Activated Alpha]

Be prepared for the OM 17heads to lord over a series win against us when we play them

[State82]

If anyone still thinks we are going to a regional you are high

Delusional is kind when describing a lot of folks' opinion on this team since the season started.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Also, stop beating your chest. It looks stupid when you strike out after doing it for the 8th time.

[EdwardDrayton]

And therein lies the issue with Preston. He will give up the long ball.

Not like we’re showing up with run support either so he can pitch from a leverage position.

[maroonmania]

I said a week ago that the softball lineup had looked pretty inept when facing competent pitching. We may be hard pressed to score much on Friday nights in the SEC.

[BuckyIsAB****]

James and Cumbest are major major disappointments this year

[Activated Alpha]

If we continue to hit like this on Friday nights then we would be better moving Preston back to the pen so we could use him Saturday or Sunday relief

[KOdawg1]

I'm not saying Geaut should be fired, but his seat better be warm going into next year.

We've got hitters that were on a national championship team that have regressed, and that falls squarely on their hitting coach.

[StarkVegasSteve]

What does James provide at this point? He makes errors and strikes out. At least Forsythe does not make errors.

[OLJWales]

I'm worried about multiple no-hitters thrown against us this year. We don't have a clue against elite pitching and once the opposing pitcher gets a lead his confidence grows and pitch selection expands. Not pretty at all.

[BayouDawg]

What does James provide at this point? He makes errors and strikes out. At least Forsythe does not make errors.

It stinks of politics

[StarkVegasSteve]

I'm not saying Geaut should be fired, but his seat better be warm going into next year.

We've got hitters that were on a national championship team that have regressed, and that falls squarely on their hitting coach.

You might not, but I will. Fire him if our hitting does not massively improve.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Give Kam James the Roger Dorn treatment.

[BayouDawg]

I'm not saying Geaut should be fired, but his seat better be warm going into next year.

We've got hitters that were on a national championship team that have regressed, and that falls squarely on their hitting coach.

We have only finished top half of the league in batting once since he has been here. Even last year we didnt set the woods on fire hitting. We had great pitching and clutch hitters.

[Maroonthirteen]

Give Kam James the Roger Dorn treatment.

What's this olay shit Dorn? I had the same thought.

[CaptainObvious]

The only freshman in their lineup has K?d 3,times. They have 2 Grad Starters and 4 Seniors starting including a Redshirt Senior.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I will say this, Preston has battled his ass off tonight. Made two bad pitches.

[Maroonthirteen]

I freaking l.... Preston Johnson. Very likable guy that I hope has an awesome career. Good job big guy

[BuckyIsAB****]

Johnson has some dawg in him. Winner

[starkvegasdawg]

What's this olay shit Dorn? I had the same thought.

Needs to throw his NIL deal on the ground and piss on it.

[EdwardDrayton]

I mean, could we ask any more of Preston. What, three earned through six. He’s gotta’ be looking around wondering did anybody come to play with me. Just HIT THE FREAKIN’ BALL!

[KOdawg1]

Why tf is it 350 down the line?

[StarkVegasSteve]

Needs to throw his NIL deal on the ground and piss on it.

You misspelled scholarship.

[msstate7]

We won the natty last year, so I'm certainly not calling for lemonis' head, but WTF? This offense is horrible. How did we not start the season with better hitters?

[KOdawg1]

That's about right

[BuckyIsAB****]

That is disheartening

[Saltydog]

Be prepared for the OM 17heads to lord over a series win against us when we play them

This is TRUE.....It's in Oxford too......It could be ugly.......

[Leeshouldveflanked]

We won the natty last year, so I'm certainly not calling for lemonis' head, but WTF? This offense is horrible. How did we not start the season with better hitters?
We will be worse next year.

[Activated Alpha]

Thought that was out of here from Hancock. Balled died at the fence

[BayouDawg]

We won the natty last year, so I'm certainly not calling for lemonis' head, but WTF? This offense is horrible. How did we not start the season with better hitters?

GoTro gots to go go

[CaptainObvious]

Is there Women?s Field Hockey on Tee Vee tonight or am I going to have to turn this to a Hallmark Movie?

[Maroonthirteen]

Needs to throw his NIL deal on the ground and piss on it.

That's funny.

[basedog]

I freaking l.... Preston Johnson. Very likable guy that I hope has an awesome career. Good job big guy

Great guy also!

No clutch hitting and we aren?t showing much passion for the game this year. I had a hunch this was gonna be a big disappointing year.

Losing 4 good players and leadership was huge from last year.

Chemistry isn?t looking good.

[msstate7]

We will be worse next year.

If we are, then lemonis is Ed O. I don't see how we could be worse

[KOdawg1]

We won the natty last year, so I'm certainly not calling for lemonis' head, but WTF? This offense is horrible. How did we not start the season with better hitters?

It's puzzling for sure.

Sure, we lost TA and Rowdey, but we still returned LoTan, Hancock, James, and Cumbest, and none have gotten better.

[StarkVegasSteve]

We won the natty last year, so I'm certainly not calling for lemonis' head, but WTF? This offense is horrible. How did we not start the season with better hitters?

Because these hitters were not good last year. We are the exact same team without Jordan and Allen. James is still terrible 19 out of 20 ABs. Cumbest is a liability against any team with competent pitching. Tanner and Hancock will hit it hard, but you have to pray it finds a gap.

[msstate7]

GoTro gots to go go

Man, I don't know. Is it approach or talent?

[basedog]

We will be worse next year.

Not necessarily.

[CaptainObvious]

Why tf is it 350 down the line?

Been that way since I lived in Athens and went to the 87 SEC Championship there that State won as the 6th seed in a 6 team tourney.

[OLJWales]

You misspelled scholarship.

LMAO

[KOdawg1]

Ya know, I've been saying that we'll be worse next year because we'll lose a lot, but if you lose mediocre hitters, do you really get worse?

[magrooder]

Tullar came in and pitched a good inning

[msstate7]

I refuse to believe we're this bad. I'm gonna keep holding on to the belief we will get better

[StarkVegasSteve]

Ya know, I've been saying that we'll be worse next year because we'll lose a lot, but if you lose mediocre hitters, do you really get worse?

Losing Cumbest and James makes you immediately better.

[CaptainObvious]

Tullar came in and pitched a good inning

Yep. Pitching starting to come around. Unfortunately we have 8 Willie Mays Hayes with the bat!

Edited to note that I forgot Tepper was still in the pitching staff.

[KOdawg1]

Well if we have a chance, this is it

[Saltydog]

Man, I don't know. Is it approach or talent?

Some of the guys that were contributors for us last year haven't improved or in some cases regressed. I'm assuming that's approach because they were solid last year. Who knows but whatever it is it ain't good.

[msstate7]

That's your PH, lemonis?

[EdwardDrayton]

We need a hookup with the Balco guy.

[BayouDawg]

Man, I don't know. Is it approach or talent?

Only finished in the top half of the sec in batting once. Im leaning towards treating college kids the same way you treat pros is not a good strategy.

[maroonmania]

Oh man, we almost scored. Rats.

[CaptainObvious]

Pitiful! Just Pitiful!!!

[BuckyIsAB****]

Whoever said Lemonis could be Ed O you might be making a case

[StarkVegasSteve]

Well if we have a chance, this is it

Yep that was it. Terrible AB by Seibert, but not any worse than most of our ABs tonight.

[BayouDawg]

Whoever said Lemonis could be Ed O you might be making a case

That was me. I take the blame

[Saltydog]

I refuse to believe we're this bad. I'm gonna keep holding on to the belief we will get better

You mean like in basketball?

Sorry, 7 you just made that way too easy.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Whoever said Lemonis could be Ed O you might be making a case

Agreed. If he sucks again next year he will be gone, and Cohen with him.

[msstate7]

Lemonis is supposed to be an elite recruiter. I'm calling BS on that

[msstate7]

You mean like in basketball?

Sorry, 7 you just made that way too easy.

This team is worse than our basketball team

[KOdawg1]

Lemonis is supposed to be an elite recruiter. I'm calling BS on that

None of these guys are his recruits.

[CaptainObvious]

I asked an assistant coach once why they don?t try to adjust a batters approach and swing when they are struggling. He said if they are 18-19 years x old and don?t know how to swing a bat properly, they shouldn?t be playing college ball.

[Maroonthirteen]

Tonight has been mostly about this pitcher. He is really good. Also we made a couple of errors to give them a run. Their first baseman played solid defense early on some hard hit balls.

Hopefully UGA has a drop in pitching talent tomorrow and Sunday. And a couple of our guys *cough LF and 3B cough* steps up.

[msstate7]

None of these guys are his recruits.

Then why not? This is his 4th year

[StarkVegasSteve]

None of these guys are his recruits.

You right. We need to give him til 2025 to see what he can do with his recruits.

[BayouDawg]

I asked an assistant coach once why they don?t try to adjust a batters approach and swing when they are struggling. He said if they are 18-19 years x old and don?t know how to swing a bat properly, they shouldn?t be playing college ball.

What does the hitting coach think his job is to do then? lol

[msstate7]

Tonight has been mostly about this pitcher. He is really good. Also we made a couple of errors to give them a run. Their first baseman played solid defense early on some hard hit balls.

Hopefully UGA has a drop in pitching talent tomorrow and Sunday. And a couple of our guys *cough LF and 3B cough* steps up.

If we hadn't been awful all year, I'd just tip my cap. We've been terrible the whole season though

[KOdawg1]

Then why not? This is his 4th year

Baseball recruiting isn't football or basketball recruiting. Most incoming college freshmen commit during their 9th or 10th grade year.

[magrooder]

I asked an assistant coach once why they don?t try to adjust a batters approach and swing when they are struggling. He said if they are 18-19 years x old and don?t know how to swing a bat properly, they shouldn?t be playing college ball.

That is asinine.

[msstate7]

Baseball recruiting isn't football or basketball recruiting. Most incoming college freshmen commit during their 9th or 10th grade year.

This is the portal era. LSU brought in a couple mashers

[Leroy Jenkins]

I asked an assistant coach once why they don?t try to adjust a batters approach and swing when they are struggling. He said if they are 18-19 years x old and don?t know how to swing a bat properly, they shouldn?t be playing college ball.

That is a sweet job, coach kids who are too old to coach.

[KOdawg1]

This is the portal era. LSU brought in a couple mashers

Well that's a different argument. But a couple of those mashers came over with the new coach. Players of that level don't typically transfer.

[Saltydog]

Someone was recently questioning why we didn't use Tepper more. Whoever it was, do you see now?

[OLJWales]

Baseball recruiting isn't football or basketball recruiting. Most incoming college freshmen commit during their 9th or 10th grade year.

?????

[CaptainObvious]

That is asinine.

Well, he coaches at Kentucky now, so there is that.

[KOdawg1]

Cerantola, Walling, Tepper....

How are you a D1 pitcher in the toughest league in America and you can't throw strikes?

[CaptainObvious]

Can Tepper Hit? Because he sure as hell can?t pitch!!!

[EdwardDrayton]

You mean like in basketball?

Sorry, 7 you just made that way too easy.

We’re like Job. Beset by one team that can’t shoot and another that can’t hit, yet we remain devout.

[KOdawg1]

?????

What's confusing about that?

[msstate7]

If you can't put any blame on lemonis for fielding this team, then how can you give him credit for the natty?

[magrooder]

Lemonis is not happy with the Tepper effort

[msstate7]

Lemonis is not happy with the Tepper effort

I'm not happy with anyone on this team from the coach to the water boy.

[KOdawg1]

If you can't put any blame on lemonis for fielding this team, then how can you give him credit for the natty?

Because he didn't wreck the nice car. Something still can be said for that.

[Saltydog]

We?re like Job. Beset by one team that can?t shoot and another that can?t hit, yet we remain devout.

Don't forget one that couldn't kick........

[662dawg]

James is 17n awful

[KOdawg1]

Kam James doesn't need to play in the field next game. He's absolutely horrible.

[magrooder]

Seriously, James can't throw a f'n ball to get a force out at home

[msstate7]

We're gonna find out about this team the next 2 days. If they bend over and take it, they and lemonis should catch all kind of hell. I don't care if we care a natty last year, this should be unacceptable.

[Maroonthirteen]

Redacted needs to sit the rest of the weekend. He had just shat the bed tonight.

I hate to call the dude out. But damn. You can't have leaders crap their pants.

[msstate7]

Kameron James needs to sit the rest of the weekend. He had just shat the bed tonight.

I hate to call the dude out. But damn. You can't have leaders crap their pants.

Do we have another option? I'd bench anyone that has someone that is actually an alternative

[magrooder]

Do we have another option? I'd bench anyone that has someone that is actually an alternative

Alford

[Saltydog]

This is the portal era. LSU brought in a couple mashers

Auburn brought in the fat ass first baseman from Samford last year (Sonny Dichiara) and he's mashing it. You could tell the kid was good last year in the regionals.

[Maroonthirteen]

If we hadn't been awful all year, I'd just tip my cap. We've been terrible the whole season though

I agree with you. I just think this team is more talented than they have shown. However they are a complete head case so far. ...and the pressure is increasing with each loss. They know what's at stake and crapping themselves.

It seems to me.

[Saltydog]

Lineup for MSU:

1. Davis CF
2. James 3B
3. Hines DH
4. LoTan C
5. Hancock 1B
6. Clark RF
7. Cumbest LF
8. Yeager 2B
9. Leggett SS

Preston Johnson on the mound.

I'd like to take back my earlier comment about finishing 6th in the West. We will finish 7th.

[KOdawg1]

Play the freshmen tomorrow.

Hines, Alford, Downs, Higgins, etc.

This team ain't doing shit this year.

[R2Dawg]

Any of yall think we are going to sniff post season this year are dreaming. I'm not even sure we make the SECT at this point. We probably will not have a winning record as a followup of our NC.

[EdwardDrayton]

I mean, c’mon Georgia, 1-0 was enough. Where’s the sportsmanship?!!?

[BuckyIsAB****]

We wont be selling out Starkville academys ball park this year

[Homedawg]

Play the freshmen tomorrow.

Hines, Alford, Downs, Higgins, etc.

This team ain't doing shit this year.

This thread has taken a normal game thread to a higher level of just dumb. Sorry. But this post is included. And I usually like your stuff. It was bad enough, then included a guy that's getting redshirted... 100X stupid

[OLJWales]

Baseball recruiting isn't football or basketball recruiting. Most incoming college freshmen commit during their 9th or 10th grade year.

How many classes has Lemonis signed since he arrived? How many are producing? The grade / year they commit has nothing to do with it.

[msstate7]

I'm fine with running our starting lineup back out there tomorrow, but if they suck, I'd make changes Sunday

[R2Dawg]

All we had to do this year is make a regional and maybe host one and folks would have been happy after a NC. What we put out is pathetic after a NC.

[BayouDawg]

Skinny lemons is as bad a skinny Don

[StarkVegasSteve]

I'm fine with running our starting lineup back out there tomorrow, but if they suck, I'd make changes Sunday

Cumbest and James need to sit for the rest of the weekend and Tepper needs to go home and we need to bring someone over who might could contribute.

[KOdawg1]

This thread has taken a normal game thread to a higher level of just dumb. Sorry. But this post is included. And I usually like your stuff. It was bad enough, then included a guy that's getting redshirted... 100X stupid

Thanks.

[OLJWales]

All we had to do this year is make a regional and maybe host one and folks would have been happy after a NC. What we put out is pathetic after a NC.

Yep. No excuse for this suckage.

[BayouDawg]

Thanks.

Homedawg is like that coworker that always complains about a job but never offers any solutions or any useful input at all really.

[EdwardDrayton]

Of course we were hopeful coming into this weekend but if we’re honest, this was not a complete surprise.

[R2Dawg]

Typical MSU. We win a NC and can't even walk around with pride for a year.

We now have to hide from fans of other teams that want to talk baseball to us.

[KOdawg1]

Homedawg is like that coworker that always complains about a job but never offers any solutions or any useful input at all really.

Rep given.

[msstate7]

If you consider 4 years isn't enough time to have your own players, then lemonis has never fielded his own team. He was at Indiana for 4.

[R2Dawg]

Our strategy rest of year should be throw our midweek guys on Friday - just give up the game. Then pitch hard on Saturday and Sunday and hope for the best.

If that don't work, just try to win Sunday and then pitch our best on midweek and pick up a few wins.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Our strategy rest of year should be throw our midweek guys on Friday - just give up the game. Then pitch hard on Saturday and Sunday and hope for the best.

If that don't work, just try to win Sunday and then pitch our best on midweek and pick up a few wins.

Other teams would adjust but this a good idea

[BayouDawg]

Our strategy rest of year should be throw our midweek guys on Friday - just give up the game. Then pitch hard on Saturday and Sunday and hope for the best.

If that don't work, just try to win Sunday and then pitch our best on midweek and pick up a few wins.

I do not disagree with this

[BayouDawg]

If you consider 4 years isn't enough time to have your own players, then lemonis has never fielded his own team. He was at Indiana for 4.

Arkansas coach missed the tournament and finished last in the conference in like his 10th year. These kind of years happen in baseball unfortunately. Now if next it is more of the same then thats a different story.

[EdwardDrayton]

Our strategy rest of year should be throw our midweek guys on Friday - just give up the game. Then pitch hard on Saturday and Sunday and hope for the best.

May be a tad early to go to that just yet, but there’s a lot of merit in that idea.

[msstate7]

Homedawg is like that coworker that always complains about a job but never offers any solutions or any useful input at all really.

Homedawg is a great guy to have on this board. He has great info. He can be a little grouchy though haha

[BayouDawg]

Homedawg is a great guy to have on this board. He has great info. He can be a little grouchy though haha

He does have good stuff from time to time.

[msstate7]

Arkansas coach missed the tournament and finished last in the conference in like his 10th year. These kind of years happen in baseball unfortunately. Now if next it is more of the same then thats a different story.

Bad years happen. I just don't buy into the idea that lemonis should be completely absolved on this bc he doesn't have his players. Lemonis should get full credit for last year, and he should get full credit for this year too imo

[BayouDawg]

How many classes has Lemonis signed since he arrived? How many are producing? The grade / year they commit has nothing to do with it.

I wanna say the freshmen on this team was his first full class.

[BayouDawg]

Bad years happen. I just don't buy into the idea that lemonis should be completely absolved on this bc he doesn't have his players. Lemonis should get full credit for last year, and he should get full credit for this year too imo

Now that I agree with. As the HC the buck stops with him.

[KOdawg1]

Homedawg is a great guy to have on this board. He has great info. He can be a little grouchy though haha

I like and respect Homedawg.

No hard feelings from me when he calls me stupid lol.

[msstate7]

I like and respect Homedawg.

No hard feelings from me when he calls me stupid lol.

If homedawg hasn't called you stupid, then you don't post very much. He hands out the insults pretty freely lol

[BayouDawg]

If homedawg hasn't called you stupid, then you don't post very much. He hands out the insults pretty freely lol

Which is why I think its fair game to put it back on him from time to time. All in good fun of course.

[BeardoMSU]

If homedawg hasn't called you stupid, then you don't post very much. He hands out the insults pretty freely lol

Pretty sure is a Boy Scouts badge***

[ImissCityBagel]

What happened to our bats?

[msstate7]

What happened to our bats?

I've been calling for a season turnaround for state teams since mid-January. I guess I'll keep on... state wins next 2

[CadaverDawg]

All the former players say Gautreau is the Goat...well, we need his bats to carry us this year. Time to step it up, and he doesn't have the luxury of waiting until halfway through SEC play this year to do it

[BayouDawg]

All the former players say Gautreau is the Goat...well, we need his bats to carry us this year. Time to step it up, and he doesn't have the luxury of waiting until halfway through SEC play this year to do it

Im sure hes a great guy and fun to be around. Hes never had us hitting the cover off the ball though. Hopefully he gets us going and makes me look dumb. Which isnt hard to do.

[CaptainObvious]

What is the legal diameter of the bat? Because these guys need at least 5 inches.😳😳

[CadaverDawg]

What is the legal diameter of the bat? Because these guys need at least 5 inches.����

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[EdwardDrayton]

Nothing like Bull Durham to put me back in a ‘pure’ baseball place.

Ready for tomorrow.

[Saltydog]

All the former players say Gautreau is the Goat...well, we need his bats to carry us this year. Time to step it up, and he doesn't have the luxury of waiting until halfway through SEC play this year to do it

Haven't you heard? This years offense is going be better than last years*****

[OLJWales]

An unexplainable collapse of epic proportions. I'm sure we'll set a record of Natty teams following up with this big of a turd.

[Activated Alpha]

Every one of those boys deserve to have their ass chewed out for the performance tonight. Kam needs to ride the pine lake Hatcher did last year. He is awful this year

[HoopsDawg]

Let's see how we bounce back. That dude on the hill was throwing 95 FB with sink, 88-89 mph cutter, 83 slider and a change. He is a dude. PJ pitched well. Tullar pitched a good inning. We just had a meltdown in the Bottom of the 8th and threw off at that point. We wouldn't have pitched Tepper or Cheatum if the game was on the line.

[Noxdog]

Let's see how we bounce back. That dude on the hill was throwing 95 FB with sink, 88-89 mph cutter, 83 slider and a change. He is a dude. PJ pitched well. Tullar pitched a good inning. We just had a meltdown in the Bottom of the 8th and threw off at that point. We wouldn't have pitched Tepper or Cheatum if the game was on the line.

THIS.

[BeardoMSU]

Let's see how we bounce back. That dude on the hill was throwing 95 FB with sink, 88-89 mph cutter, 83 slider and a change. He is a dude. PJ pitched well. Tullar pitched a good inning. We just had a meltdown in the Bottom of the 8th and threw off at that point. We wouldn't have pitched Tepper or Cheatum if the game was on the line.

Yes.

[Todd4State]

Every one of those boys deserve to have their ass chewed out for the performance tonight. Kam needs to ride the pine lake Hatcher did last year. He is awful this year

He definitely needs to be moved out of the two spot in the order. Never have liked him hitting there.

[Commercecomet24]

Let's see how we bounce back. That dude on the hill was throwing 95 FB with sink, 88-89 mph cutter, 83 slider and a change. He is a dude. PJ pitched well. Tullar pitched a good inning. We just had a meltdown in the Bottom of the 8th and threw off at that point. We wouldn't have pitched Tepper or Cheatum if the game was on the line.

This, agree on all. That guy on the mound was the real deal. See if we have some stones tomorrow and Sunday

[Todd4State]

Bad years happen. I just don't buy into the idea that lemonis should be completely absolved on this bc he doesn't have his players. Lemonis should get full credit for last year, and he should get full credit for this year too imo

Pretty much all of the recruits are either under Lemonis or Gautreau. People forget that Gautreau was here for a full year before Lemonis. Some of our pitchers were recruited by Henderson. There may have been a couple that committed when Cohen was still here like Kam James or Kellum Clark or Logan Tanner but if I remember correctly all of them committed after Cohen became AD.

The biggest recruiting issue I see is we maybe we too heavy on power hitters and not hard enough on OBP guys like Tanner Allen, Rowdey, and Mangum and we need more LH pitching.

What that has done is it has caused us to go in the portal for guys like Jess Davis who is a far cry from the three guys I mentioned above. It has taken away our ability to make things happen on the bases, get guys on base in front of our power hitters, and also it has caused us to be a team that has a lot of power but also a lot of swing and miss at times which leads to us being streaky.

We can blame whoever but I don't think this team is built the way that Lemonis would like for it to be built for his preferred style.

[Todd4State]

This, agree on all. That guy on the mound was the real deal. See if we have some stones tomorrow and Sunday

We're also about to find out if Foxhall's reverse engineering of the rotation is going to pay off as well. I think it probably will most weekends. I also still think we're likely to move Hunt back in the rotation once he is ready. We'll see.

[TNDawg35]

Pretty much all of the recruits are either under Lemonis or Gautreau. People forget that Gautreau was here for a full year before Lemonis. Some of our pitchers were recruited by Henderson. There may have been a couple that committed when Cohen was still here like Kam James or Kellum Clark or Logan Tanner but if I remember correctly all of them committed after Cohen became AD.

The biggest recruiting issue I see is we maybe we too heavy on power hitters and not hard enough on OBP guys like Tanner Allen, Rowdey, and Mangum and we need more LH pitching.

What that has done is it has caused us to go in the portal for guys like Jess Davis who is a far cry from the three guys I mentioned above. It has taken away our ability to make things happen on the bases, get guys on base in front of our power hitters, and also it has caused us to be a team that has a lot of power but also a lot of swing and miss at times which leads to us being streaky.

We can blame whoever but I don't think this team is built the way that Lemonis would like for it to be built for his preferred style.

Wasnt Gotro here for 2 years before Lemonis? He came in the Cann his first year, then helped Henderson, then Lemonis came in…

I didn’t get to watch today and sounds like that’s a good thing apparently… I still say Kam needs to go to the outfield and Hancock needs to be DH. Let Alford and Hines play the field.

That doesn’t make up for the fast that our hitting has sucked donkey NUTZ. It seems like it has the last few years to be honest. Ask yourself this, how many times have we complained about our hitters making a pitcher look like Nolan Ryan or Greg Maddux? More than I can count the last few years. We have too many people regressing instead of getting better. Why are coming into the year barely squeaking out 2 or 3 hits and teams like TN, Ark, and LSU are damn near hitting double digits every night…

Either Gotro isn’t working with hitters, or Lemonis is letting him have too much slack. We don’t have the pitching to bale us out this year and keep the game to 1 or 2 runs waiting for a big hit or a walk off… We damn near have to have the other team give us the game…

Maybe some of the older guys needs to take a seat and play younger guys. All the tinkering we did early kept really anyone from getting in a groove except for Hines who has been tearing the cover off. LoTann is about what he was last year and so is Hancock, who is gonna walk a lot and not strike out, but either pop the ball up or roll over the right side. Kam has flat sucked to be honest. Yeager has underwhelmed for what he was at Mercer, and to be honest, I though Davis hasnt been thy bad when he has had a chance. Cumbest is gonna hit it hard if he touches it. Clark has started coming on, and seems like no matter what we run out to SS, they can’t hit shit.

Something needs to change tho, cause it ain’t working like it is and I don’t see anyone on our signee list that would make a huge difference right off the bat. We have a bunch of 3 stars and a couple 4s while OM literally has all 4 stars and 1 3 per PG. I understand baseball recruiting is different and stuff, but to hell with it. Pull a Vitello and flip some recruits. Why do y’all think him and Van Horn got into it last year.

[Randolph Dupree]

I don't mind a loss. I don't mind the number of losses we have right now, but what bothers me is the lack of toughness on this team. For the last decade (honestly longer than that) we've had guys that refused to lose. Sure we got beat but overall we were scrappy as hell. Last year is a perfect example, we weren't blowing teams out but we found a way to win (look back at Tulane and several of those early series). We don't seem to have those guys on this team. That bothers me. Hopefully we can find it before it's too late.

[StarkVegasSteve]

So after taking the night to settle down, I am still pissed. Our veterans, outside of LT, are playing like freshman. No plate discipline, bad ABs, and errors. I said 3 years ago when we got rid of Cannizzaro, and we had to so I am not advocating we should have kept him, I was afraid the toughness was leaving the team and through 19 games unfortunately I think I may have been correct. Cann always advocated toughness, whether it was the boxing gloves or the Road Warriors thing he taught those guys to never back down. Once the last remnants of Cann left(Allen, Jordan, Self, Price) so did the toughness.

On the mound, I really do not give a flying 17 if you can throw 95 if you have zero control and walk 4 straight batters. It continues to puzzle me why we run guys out there with ZERO control. I understand the game was probably out of hand but it least it was not embarrassing, that was until the 8th. We need to get 6-7 guys for the weekend and roll. The rest can pitch midweek.

As of now I do not see us making the tournament, maybe that changes but I am not very optimistic at the moment. Again, I have said since the Northern Kentucky loss that we need to give the freshman the ABs we are giving to Cumbest and James. We need to gear towards next year so those guys will be ready day 1

[Saltydog]

I don't mind a loss. I don't mind the number of losses we have right now, but what bothers me is the lack of toughness on this team. For the last decade (honestly longer than that) we've had guys that refused to lose. Sure we got beat but overall we were scrappy as hell. Last year is a perfect example, we weren't blowing teams out but we found a way to win (look back at Tulane and several of those early series). We don't seem to have those guys on this team. That bothers me. Hopefully we can find it before it's too late.

We have those guys on the team. I mean, we have 6 regulars back in the lineup from last year. Is it leadership or lack thereof? Complacency? Maybe a little of both but we should be able to hit better than we have.

[Cowbell]

So after taking the night to settle down, I am still pissed. Our veterans, outside of LT, are playing like freshman. No plate discipline, bad ABs, and errors. I said 3 years ago when we got rid of Cannizzaro, and we had to so I am not advocating we should have kept him, I was afraid the toughness was leaving the team and through 19 games unfortunately I think I may have been correct. Cann always advocated toughness, whether it was the boxing gloves or the Road Warriors thing he taught those guys to never back down. Once the last remnants of Cann left(Allen, Jordan, Self, Price) so did the toughness.

On the mound, I really do not give a flying 17 if you can throw 95 if you have zero control and walk 4 straight batters. It continues to puzzle me why we run guys out there with ZERO control. I understand the game was probably out of hand but it least it was not embarrassing, that was until the 8th. We need to get 6-7 guys for the weekend and roll. The rest can pitch midweek.

As of now I do not see us making the tournament, maybe that changes but I am not very optimistic at the moment. Again, I have said since the Northern Kentucky loss that we need to give the freshman the ABs we are giving to Cumbest and James. We need to gear towards next year so those guys will be ready day 1

You can not claim toughness left the team when Cannizzaro left when that was literally the worst weekend of baseball I have ever seen us play (southern swept us) and we have made 3 straight trips to Omaha since including winning the whole thing. This team has not found its way yet and has not found team chemistry. How much money do you want to bet against us making the tournament? When you are short on relievers you save your guys you need for the games that are in hand. And at some point you still have to throw the guys that aren't proven and that you don't trust yet. That's the only way you get better. So many guys in here throwing hissy fits like little girls when you need to step back and look at the big picture. In the same post you are literally saying play for next year when your mad that we threw an unproven arm that we need to see mature for next year.

[StarkVegasSteve]

You can not claim toughness left the team when Cannizzaro left when that was literally the worst weekend of baseball I have ever seen us play (southern swept us) and we have made 3 straight trips to Omaha since including winning the whole thing. This team has not found its way yet and has not found team chemistry. How much money do you want to bet against us making the tournament? When you are short on relievers you save your guys you need for the games that are in hand. And at some point you still have to throw the guys that aren't proven and that you don't trust yet. That's the only way you get better. So many guys in here throwing hissy fits like little girls when you need to step back and look at the big picture. In the same post you are literally saying play for next year when your mad that we threw an unproven arm that we need to see mature for next year.

Yea I was in Hattiesburg. I was also there for every game the year before and I watched a team that had no business being anywhere near the tournament come within 5 outs of taking game 1 of a super in Alex Box. A team that pitched Jake Mangum, Cole Gordon, and Brant Blaylock in meaningful games made a super. Cann was the sole reason we were in that position. He made guys like Josh Lovelady and Jacob Billingsley believe they could compete with anyone. He elevated Rooker to unforeseen heights. Cann was a lot like V. No matter what hand they were dealt they believed they could win a championship.

And yes I am saying play for next year. However that does not mean continuing to put guys in games that can not sniff the strike zone and have not in two years. Also, this a damn message board. People overreact all the time and maybe I am. But I have watched Mississippi State baseball for a long damn time and then mental makeup of this team is on par with early Cohen teams. No mental toughness. Again, maybe a leader steps up like 2018 and we save the season. But none of these kids, at this point, are giving me Mangum vibes.

[OLJWales]

Would like to see Gotro's SEC stats since coming to STATE and SEC Rank. Avg, OBP, Slugging and Runs.