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sleepy dawg
02-27-2022, 12:43 PM
I know it won't happen, but I'd like to see Yeager and Forsythe start the game on the bench.

parabrave
02-27-2022, 01:30 PM
Yeager, James hancock Tanner Hines Corder Cumbust Downs and Leggett

HoopsDawg
02-27-2022, 01:38 PM
Yeager, James hancock Tanner Hines Corder Cumbust Downs and Leggett

Best lineup of the year so far.

Homedawg
02-27-2022, 01:43 PM
I know it won't happen, but I'd like to see Yeager and Forsythe start the game on the bench.

So you want meche?? That's the other option.

The Federalist Engineer
02-27-2022, 01:46 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMn6k8XVcAAehxc?format=jpg&name=large

sleepy dawg
02-27-2022, 01:52 PM
Best lineup of the year so far.

Possibly. I'm at least glad Clark and Forsythe are benched... It is kind of odd though that we finally bench Clark after that late HR.

I only wish Yeager was batting lower and Cumbest was higher.

sleepy dawg
02-27-2022, 01:54 PM
So you want meche?? That's the other option.

For sure.

AlSwearengen
02-27-2022, 02:00 PM
Guys, Leggett will forever be a hero, but his bat speed is tuned to these weaker pitchers that we are facing so far. It is fool’s gold. I understand the frustration with Forsythe’s bat, but defense.

parabrave
02-27-2022, 02:05 PM
What time does the Game start?? HailState says 1 but no radio on the App nor on WFCA/

sleepy dawg
02-27-2022, 02:08 PM
Guys, Leggett will forever be a hero, but his bat speed is tuned to these weaker pitchers that we are facing so far. It is fool?s gold. I understand the frustration with Forsythe?s bat, but defense.

So far Leggett looks pretty solid in the field.

Cowbell
02-27-2022, 02:08 PM
Guys, Leggett will forever be a hero, but his bat speed is tuned to these weaker pitchers that we are facing so far. It is fool?s gold. I understand the frustration with Forsythe?s bat, but defense.

So no need to worry on all the guys that can't buy a hit on these guys? Swinging too fast?***

Cowbell
02-27-2022, 02:09 PM
So far Leggett looks pretty solid in the field.
It would have to be a drastic difference to lake up for the lack of hitting by Lane.

BuckyIsAB****
02-27-2022, 02:13 PM
Yeager has been bad bad bad

sleepy dawg
02-27-2022, 02:15 PM
It would have to be a drastic difference to lake up for the lack of hitting by Lane.

1.055 vs. .421 OPS. That's pretty drastic.

There's no doubt Forsythe is a great fielder, but he still had 13 errors last year. It's not like he's incapable of making mistakes in the field.

All I see now is Leggett is playing better than Forsythe. I'd like to see him play over him until that's not the case.

BayouDawg
02-27-2022, 02:19 PM
The hitting coach needs to put his philosophy of letting the players fail and then coach them up in the garbage. Im sick and tired of starting every season this bad at hitting.

sleepy dawg
02-27-2022, 02:19 PM
Yeager has been bad bad bad

Him and Forsythe are pretty damn similar stats wise. Both are very bad.

Cowbell
02-27-2022, 02:22 PM
1.055 vs. .421 OPS. That's pretty drastic.

There's no doubt Forsythe is a great fielder, but he still had 13 errors last year. It's not like he's incapable of making mistakes in the field.

All I see now is Leggett is playing better than Forsythe. I'd like to see him play over him until that's not the case.

I meant drastic difference in the field. As I'm I'm for Leggett

BayouDawg
02-27-2022, 02:27 PM
Cade smith has been the brightest of spots so far. Hes a gamer.

BuckyIsAB****
02-27-2022, 02:28 PM
The biggest problem this team has so far is no upper class man has taken charge in the lineup. Not one.

Cowbell
02-27-2022, 02:29 PM
The biggest problem this team has so far is no upper class man has taken charge in the lineup. Not one.

Especially when we have so many guys that have the experience and ability.

Activated Alpha
02-27-2022, 02:30 PM
Good rip Hines

BayouDawg
02-27-2022, 02:31 PM
Hines has a nice swing

Activated Alpha
02-27-2022, 02:34 PM
Good RBI single there by Corder

BayouDawg
02-27-2022, 02:35 PM
Back to back excellent at bats! Maybe some guys are starting to figure it out

Activated Alpha
02-27-2022, 02:35 PM
Bloop single turns into a double for Cumbest. Hah

magrooder
02-27-2022, 02:38 PM
Aaron Downs is a big boy

parabrave
02-27-2022, 02:38 PM
Nice 1st AB Downs. 2 RBI single

Activated Alpha
02-27-2022, 02:38 PM
Good ABs by the bottom of our lineup in this inning

CadaverDawg
02-27-2022, 02:38 PM
Y'all give us some Play by play and some score updates...traveling today and totally relying on you boys.

BayouDawg
02-27-2022, 02:38 PM
4 straight hits!

BayouDawg
02-27-2022, 02:39 PM
3-0 state in the bot 2nd

Activated Alpha
02-27-2022, 02:43 PM
I really want Yeager to work as a leadoff batter, but he's gotta bring more to the table. He's been a black hole....

CadaverDawg
02-27-2022, 02:44 PM
By the way, what happened to State's Twitter account? Last year they tweeted a ton during games, but this year they tweet less than any team account in the league. No updates at all hardly, only when there's a homerun. I used to open Twitter and could damn near get a play by play pitch by pitch between our beat guys and the team Twitter...this weekend it has been crickets though. You'd think the defending champs would have a bigger presence on social media coming off a title. Oh well. Thank you guys for updates

The Federalist Engineer
02-27-2022, 02:51 PM
Meanwhile in Ruston Louisiana...

Dylan Caramouche is dealing for Tulane. He is the Saturday starter for the Wave.

Wonder why this kid left, he was a big recruit. 6 foot 6 Lefty.

Percho
02-27-2022, 02:54 PM
By the way, what happened to State's Twitter account? Last year they tweeted a ton during games, but this year they tweet less than any team account in the league. No updates at all hardly, only when there's a homerun. I used to open Twitter and could damn near get a play by play pitch by pitch between our beat guys and the team Twitter...this weekend it has been crickets though. You'd think the defending champs would have a bigger presence on social media coming off a title. Oh well. Thank you guys for updates

Waiting on Truth Social!

Cowbell
02-27-2022, 02:58 PM
Y'all give us some Play by play and some score updates...traveling today and totally relying on you boys.

Tune in radio app is a constant for me in baseball season

parabrave
02-27-2022, 03:02 PM
Cumbest

parabrave
02-27-2022, 03:03 PM
5-0

BayouDawg
02-27-2022, 03:03 PM
Mule with a 2 run shot! 5-0 Dawgs!

sleepy dawg
02-27-2022, 03:03 PM
2 run shot by Cumbest. line drive over the left field wall.

5-0 bottom 3rd.

The Federalist Engineer
02-27-2022, 03:03 PM
Mule is quietly having a He-Man start to the season

R2Dawg
02-27-2022, 03:04 PM
Cumbest goes yard 5-0. 2 HR on the weekend.

Cumbest is another guy that must step up and he has this weekend.

sleepy dawg
02-27-2022, 03:05 PM
Mule is quietly having a He-Man start to the season

Yeah, he's looking like our best hitter so far.

sleepy dawg
02-27-2022, 03:06 PM
pitching change for n Kentucky.

Then ground out by downs to end inning

Cowbell
02-27-2022, 03:06 PM
Yeah, he's looking like our best hitter so far.

Agree! He is filling the hole left by his old roommate

Lord McBuckethead
02-27-2022, 03:15 PM
Agree! He is filling the hole left by his old roommate

When he lays off the hard breakers, he smashes. I will admit, I haven't seen much of our hitters so far, but when I am watching, I think we only have 4 hits combined.
Maybe I need to stay away from our games.

Lord McBuckethead
02-27-2022, 03:15 PM
Y'all seen Tommy White from NC State, he has 9 bombs in 8 games. Dang.

662dawg
02-27-2022, 03:17 PM
Yeah, he's looking like our best hitter so far.

And Cade Smith is looking like our best starter so far. He?s hit 96 at least once today, 95 a few times & between 92-94 consistently while throwing a ton of strikes & good location.

Lord McBuckethead
02-27-2022, 03:18 PM
Damn good swing by Yeager right at the 5. anywhere else and he is off to the races.

Lord McBuckethead
02-27-2022, 03:19 PM
I think we are going to mash this pitcher.

Lord McBuckethead
02-27-2022, 03:20 PM
All hitter, just sit back and wait for your pitch. This guy doesn't have good stuff.
Time for Hancock to get a double.

Lord McBuckethead
02-27-2022, 03:21 PM
Dude isn't even looking at first. Got to send James here.

R2Dawg
02-27-2022, 03:21 PM
And Cade Smith is looking like our best starter so far. He?s hit 96 at least once today, 95 a few times & between 92-94 consistently while throwing a ton of strikes & good location.

I think we got the pieces to end up a really good team. Just got new guys to breakin on O and pitching. I think we see already 3 pretty good starting pitchers. Sims, Johnson and Cade - pretty salty.

Lord McBuckethead
02-27-2022, 03:21 PM
3-0 count. might as well just let him walk Hancock.

OLJWales
02-27-2022, 03:22 PM
Howdy Yall instead of a new thread asking if Bednar set any other records in CWS & NCAA Play. He broke a STATE Record but Damn, 15 K's outta 6 Innings? Based ratio math that should be high on some lists, no? This a pretty cool clip of all 15 pitches..


https://youtu.be/_WEdzb8YUnk

Lord McBuckethead
02-27-2022, 03:22 PM
Boom. Hancock turned on one. 7-0 with that two run homer.

R2Dawg
02-27-2022, 03:22 PM
All hitter, just sit back and wait for your pitch. This guy doesn't have good stuff.
Time for Hancock to get a double.

Hancock goes yard for 2 more.

We have the pieces to get it going at some point. Hancock is set for a huge year.

BayouDawg
02-27-2022, 03:22 PM
2 run shot by Hancock. 7-0 dawgs

Lord McBuckethead
02-27-2022, 03:24 PM
That was a shit strike call against loTan.

Cowbell
02-27-2022, 03:25 PM
One thing for sure, everybody in our lineup today can hit one over. I don't remember us ever having that ability before.

Lord McBuckethead
02-27-2022, 03:27 PM
Solid inning. two really hard hit balls. Working the count, getting on base. Plate 2. Keep that mentality boys.

662dawg
02-27-2022, 03:31 PM
I think we got the pieces to end up a really good team. Just got new guys to breakin on O and pitching. I think we see already 3 pretty good starting pitchers. Sims, Johnson and Cade - pretty salty.

I?d like to see Pico Kohn get a shot as the Sunday starter, move Cade to Saturdays & slide Preston into Simms role from last year, using him multiple innings at least twice a weekend.

Lord McBuckethead
02-27-2022, 03:40 PM
When was the last time Skinner got a hit? Last year?

BuckyIsAB****
02-27-2022, 03:41 PM
Older guys playing well today

Homedawg
02-27-2022, 03:46 PM
When was the last time Skinner got a hit? Last year?

Yesterday.....

HoopsDawg
02-27-2022, 03:47 PM
I?d like to see Pico Kohn get a shot as the Sunday starter, move Cade to Saturdays & slide Preston into Simms role from last year, using him multiple innings at least twice a weekend.

Bright future. I don't think he's ready for that yet.

662dawg
02-27-2022, 03:47 PM
When was the last time Skinner got a hit? Last year?

I think he got an infield hit yesterday? but you?re point stands lol

662dawg
02-27-2022, 03:48 PM
Bright future. I don't think he's ready for that yet.

May be right. He looked really good yesterday.

BayouDawg
02-27-2022, 03:52 PM
Brandon smith can be solid for us this year if he can keep his pitches down in the zone.

CaptainObvious
02-27-2022, 03:54 PM
Well we swapped out Corder and Cumbest for Skinner and Clark and they promptly showed their ability.

662dawg
02-27-2022, 03:56 PM
Brandon smith can be solid for us this year if he can keep his pitches down in the zone.

That was a very encouraging inning from him.

R2Dawg
02-27-2022, 04:05 PM
At the plate, we got 4 veterans that can step up and lead this team back to CWS while the youngsters grow up. Those are Tanner, James, Hancock, and Cumbest. Looks like they are all waking up.

With Corder, Hines, Yeager and a few other new guys, we could be salty before year end. If Clark figures it out watch out. We lost two all time greats in Rowdy and TA but we are reloading this year so going to take a little while.

Commercecomet24
02-27-2022, 04:06 PM
Nice to have a guy playing second with ss range and ss arm.

magrooder
02-27-2022, 04:12 PM
Brandon Smith getting the job done today. Hope he can continue to get it done through the year.

662dawg
02-27-2022, 04:12 PM
Very solid two innings from Brandon Smith.

HoopsDawg
02-27-2022, 04:13 PM
I'd like to see Tepper in the 8th and Hunt in the 9th.

Lord McBuckethead
02-27-2022, 04:14 PM
Come on Skinner, keep your bat in the zone and get a hit.

Lord McBuckethead
02-27-2022, 04:15 PM
Just watching strikes go by.

Homedawg
02-27-2022, 04:15 PM
I'd like to see Tepper in the 8th and Hunt in the 9th.

Don't think you're going to see hunt from what I heard

Lord McBuckethead
02-27-2022, 04:15 PM
If that doesn't hit the pitcher, it probably gets through. Dang.

Lord McBuckethead
02-27-2022, 04:17 PM
Clark is about to crush this one.

BayouDawg
02-27-2022, 04:19 PM
Clark got on base. Thats an improvement

CaptainObvious
02-27-2022, 04:23 PM
Don't think you're going to see hunt from what I heard

I know his parents came in from New Jersey. Any particular reason why he wouldn?t pitch this weekend? Do you think he starts Tuesday against Grambling?

parabrave
02-27-2022, 04:29 PM
Time for Stennet

HoopsDawg
02-27-2022, 04:29 PM
Don't think you're going to see hunt from what I heard

That's unfortunate

maroonmania
02-27-2022, 04:30 PM
Hope we have someone else warming. Auger getting hit hard.

Homedawg
02-27-2022, 04:31 PM
I know his parents came in from New Jersey. Any particular reason why he wouldn?t pitch this weekend? Do you think he starts Tuesday against Grambling?

I didn't verify it but I heard he was having some arm issues. Obviously I hope that's wrong. But I think if he doesn't pitch this weekend it probably is.....

maroonmania
02-27-2022, 04:32 PM
Don't think you're going to see hunt from what I heard

Discipline related or something else?

parabrave
02-27-2022, 04:33 PM
Way to hang in there Auger

CaptainObvious
02-27-2022, 04:41 PM
Our lead off guy is 0-5 today.

somebodyshotmypaw
02-27-2022, 04:42 PM
As I type this, Kellum Clark and Yeager are a combined 2 for 34. That’s a batting average of .059

BuckyIsAB****
02-27-2022, 04:45 PM
As I type this, Kellum Clark and Yeager are a combined 2 for 34. That’s a batting average of .059

Wow

Santiago
02-27-2022, 04:45 PM
Our lead off guy is 0-5 today.

And to add, this season so far, our 1 spot hitter , regardless of who has hit in it, have combined for just 1 hit this season. But maybe they are just keeping the tradition of Rowdy in cold weather ***

parabrave
02-27-2022, 04:46 PM
OK close it out Tepper.

CaptainObvious
02-27-2022, 04:46 PM
Their junk ball pitchers put up goose eggs in the 5-8 innings today. State had 2 hits during this 4 innings.

Winning is always the goal, but this group has some weaknesses in the lineup that have to be fixed or replaced. After Tuesday night, the competition goes up drastically.

somebodyshotmypaw
02-27-2022, 04:48 PM
Wow

Yeager is 2 for 19 (batting average of .105) and Kellum Clark is 0 for 15.

parabrave
02-27-2022, 04:48 PM
Our lead off guy is 0-5 today.

It's going to take a few series to find a Leadoff guy. Got to have a player who understands its his job to get on base not hit dingers and not to take strike 3 looking either.

BuckyIsAB****
02-27-2022, 04:50 PM
Its 7-2 just throw strikes

maroonmania
02-27-2022, 04:54 PM
Its 7-2 just throw strikes

Yep, Tepper all over the place.

magrooder
02-27-2022, 04:55 PM
Yep, Tepper all over the place.

Very frustrating.

HoopsDawg
02-27-2022, 05:07 PM
If Hunt is indeed injured, our pitching staff is looking a little thin. Much thinner than expected coming into the season. B/c we have several guys who absolutely can not pitch in high leverage situations right now.

662dawg
02-27-2022, 05:29 PM
If Hunt is indeed injured, our pitching staff is looking a little thin. Much thinner than expected coming into the season. B/c we have several guys who absolutely can not pitch in high leverage situations right now.

Only ones I trust out of the pen right now are Kohn & Simmons. If Smith pitches like he did today then add him. I had Auger on my ?trust? list, but he scared me today.

Tepper has time to right the ship, however Tullar & Stinnett are running out of time. Let?s pray Fristoe & Hunt get it together soon. Maybe Jack Walker can help us at some point this year.

KOdawg1
02-27-2022, 05:42 PM
If Hunt is indeed injured, our pitching staff is looking a little thin. Much thinner than expected coming into the season. B/c we have several guys who absolutely can not pitch in high leverage situations right now.

It's concerning for sure. Talent isn't the issue, but unfortunately some of the more talented ones are the ones we can't trust.

maroonmania
02-27-2022, 05:42 PM
Certainly glad we won the last two of the weekend but we still have a lot of issues with this team to try and get fixed. I know that is stating the obvious.

CadaverDawg
02-27-2022, 06:53 PM
We officially have a serviceable rotation if we choose to keep Preston in it...but with him in it, we have a weaker pen. I'm starting to think we move Fristoe back to the weekend, and Preston back to the pen, and let the young fellas piece together midweek. But it's early. If Fristoe has another good outing this week, we have a few options. I just like Preston's experience in the pen.

The Federalist Engineer
02-27-2022, 06:55 PM
It's concerning for sure. Talent isn't the issue, but unfortunately some of the more talented ones are the ones we can't trust.

Tulane 4 La Tech 1

An MSU transfer for Tulane, tossed 7 innings, 0 ER, 4 H, and 0 BB

We can't expect that MSU never lose a good player, but it would be nice to have a Reliable Lefty with Saturday starter capabilities. La Tech is ranked #15 in the nation

HoopsDawg
02-27-2022, 07:10 PM
Tulane 4 La Tech 1

An MSU transfer for Tulane, tossed 7 innings, 0 ER, 4 H, and 0 BB

We can't expect that MSU never lose a good player, but it would be nice to have a Reliable Lefty with Saturday starter capabilities. La Tech is ranked #15 in the nation

I didn't think he was that big of a loss at the time. But I would love to have him now.

HoopsDawg
02-27-2022, 07:11 PM
We officially have a serviceable rotation if we choose to keep Preston in it...but with him in it, we have a weaker pen. I'm starting to think we move Fristoe back to the weekend, and Preston back to the pen, and let the young fellas piece together midweek. But it's early. If Fristoe has another good outing this week, we have a few options. I just like Preston's experience in the pen.

I don't really get this line of thinking. If Sims, Smith and PJ can give us 21 inning in a weekend. We only need 6 innings from the pen. I feel pretty good about Simmons and Kohn for 4. Surely some other guys can step up. Maybe Fristoe can move to the pen late in the year.

The Federalist Engineer
02-27-2022, 07:14 PM
It's going to take a few series to find a Leadoff guy. Got to have a player who understands its his job to get on base not hit dingers and not to take strike 3 looking either.

Yeager is hitting 109. Hmmm. The bright side is that Brett Pirtle was sub 200 for 20 games before he had a very nice career at MSU.

Brett was not batting lead off or every game until he got better and good. Time to platoon Meche with Yeager, maybe.

Commercecomet24
02-27-2022, 07:22 PM
Yeagers a proven hitter with power. He'll hit we've only played 7 games. He'll be fine.

HoopsDawg
02-27-2022, 07:24 PM
Yeagers a proven hitter with power. He'll hit we've only played 7 games. He'll be fine.

agree. other than his 1st AB, he had some quality AB's today. The NKU pitcher made a really nice 2 strike pitch to get him one AB.

CadaverDawg
02-27-2022, 07:34 PM
I don't really get this line of thinking. If Sims, Smith and PJ can give us 21 inning in a weekend. We only need 6 innings from the pen. I feel pretty good about Simmons and Kohn for 4. Surely some other guys can step up. Maybe Fristoe can move to the pen late in the year.

Don't totally disagree...I just know we used Preston multiple times in a weekend last year many times. Put him in the starting rotation and you only have him once. Fristoe is not a reliever, so you replace Preston in the pen with nobody. Meanwhile, if you can get 5-6+ out of Fristoe (which is far from a guarantee), you beef up your starting rotation AND add a key piece back to your pen. Again, it would require Fristoe to be good, but right now our pen sucks, and you can lose a lot of SEC series in those 6 innings youre talking about if you don't have any reliable arms on the back half. Dont go into many 7th and 8th innings with comfortable blowout leads in SEC play.

So not saying we can't win with Preston as a starter, but we sure as hell better have some bullpen arms rise up if we are going to.

basedog
02-27-2022, 07:38 PM
It’s still very early, things will come together in the next two weeks on pitchers and lineup. Weather has sucked and we haven’t played our best ball yet, we are a young team loaded with talent. I think we “all” need to quit worrying as Lemonis is or will figure things out.

Commercecomet24
02-27-2022, 07:47 PM
It’s still very early, things will come together in the next two weeks on pitchers and lineup. Weather has sucked and we haven’t played our best ball yet, we are a young team loaded with talent. I think we “all” need to quit worrying as Lemonis is or will figure things out.

Winner! I vote for this as post of the day. I agree 100%.

CadaverDawg
02-27-2022, 07:54 PM
It’s still very early, things will come together in the next two weeks on pitchers and lineup. Weather has sucked and we haven’t played our best ball yet, we are a young team loaded with talent. I think we “all” need to quit worrying as Lemonis is or will figure things out.

Yeah I'm not worried...it's early. I am actually somewhat excited to see which youngsters rise to the challenge as the season progresses. We have some serious young talent though, that's for sure.

Commercecomet24
02-27-2022, 07:59 PM
Yeah I'm not worried...it's early. I am actually somewhat excited to see which youngsters rise to the challenge as the season progresses. We have some serious young talent though, that's for sure.

Right and we have more coming in next year and year after. We have a great history in baseball but I honestly believe Lemonis has started something that's gonna take us to an even higher level.

Coach34
02-27-2022, 08:16 PM
You fix your starting rotation first. That's the backbone of your team. You worry about the rest after you get your 3 SP's you can count on. As we mentioned- they account for 16-20 IP's a weekend.

Personally- I'd like to see Cade go on Friday, Sims on Sat, and then PJ on Sunday. My midweek SP would depend on how the weekend went or who we play.

CadaverDawg
02-27-2022, 08:16 PM
Right and we have more coming in next year and year after. We have a great history in baseball but I honestly believe Lemonis has started something that's gonna take us to an even higher level.

Yep. Just need that right mix of talent and leadership, and for them to keep that gritty mentality that makes MSU baseball what it is. That's actually my only real concern with winning a Natty...I hope it doesn't take away that drive our program has had. I don't think it will.

basedog
02-27-2022, 08:21 PM
Right and we have more coming in next year and year after. We have a great history in baseball but I honestly believe Lemonis has started something that's gonna take us to an even higher level.

We have one senior and yes we will lose some to draft and some opting out. I also like the rotation, it gives us a strong starting pitchers who can and will eat up innings. When the weather heats up I expect our offense to take off, plus competition will give us that motivation for some to step up or be replaced.

Activated Alpha
02-27-2022, 08:26 PM
I am nervous about Tulane. We play at their place and they want revenge for us last season. They will most likely be even more of dickbags than last year

Commercecomet24
02-27-2022, 08:40 PM
We have one senior and yes we will lose some to draft and some opting out. I also like the rotation, it gives us a strong starting pitchers who can and will eat up innings. When the weather heats up I expect our offense to take off, plus competition will give us that motivation for some to step up or be replaced.

I agree.

Commercecomet24
02-27-2022, 08:43 PM
Yep. Just need that right mix of talent and leadership, and for them to keep that gritty mentality that makes MSU baseball what it is. That's actually my only real concern with winning a Natty...I hope it doesn't take away that drive our program has had. I don't think it will.

I don't think it will either. Once you get that rush of winning it all it just makes you want the next one even more. Tom Brady always said his favorite ring was the next one and it's so true. I love the mentality we have had as a program. Hard nosed competitors

The Federalist Engineer
02-27-2022, 09:10 PM
Right and we have more coming in next year and year after. We have a great history in baseball but I honestly believe Lemonis has started something that's gonna take us to an even higher level.

The magic number for contender College Baseball pitching staffs is 7 for 600 innings. Teams are generally using 7 pitchers for 80% of all innings and 95% of conference innings. Then in regionals, it's 5 pitchers. Of all things MSU uses more than other teams I analyzed. Some teams use much less, like 5. MSU sometimes uses 12 with L/R mix that nobody else seems to have.

Off the cuff:
(1) Sims (2) C Smith and (3) P Johnson are good for 80-to-100 innings, That's 1/2 the work

Then we usually have 4 guys for 40 relief innings + 1/4 of the innings
(3) B Smith (4) Simmons (5) Hunt/Auger (6) Fristoe/Kohn

Then the final 1/4 is development, midweek, 13th inning, Hoover, and valiant stands, 6 for 24 to 12 innings
(7) kohn/Fristoe (8) Tepper (9) Hunt/Auger (10) Stinnett (11) Walling/Walker (12) Tullar

In this corporaty model - I think MSU is ok with the possibility that Fristoe, Hunt, or Tepper can be much better than we have seen. We generally get one Zac Houston leap in development in the season. Fristoe could be a 1st or 2nd round pick. We are not hoping that a converted 1B can pitch like in 2017, there are blue chippers in the mix.

Sorting all this out is the coaches job, wannabe schools panic and want to be Warren Nolan's #1 all season. MSU needs to have 5 to 7 rested war horses for the supers and then Omaha.

Coach34
02-27-2022, 09:17 PM
The magic number for contender College Baseball pitching staffs is 7 for 600 innings. Teams are generally using 7 pitchers for 80% of all innings and 95% of conference innings. Then in regionals, it's 5 pitchers. Of all things MSU uses more than other teams I analyzed. Some teams use much less, like 5. MSU sometimes uses 12 with L/R mix that nobody else seems to have.

Off the cuff:
(1) Sims (2) C Smith and (3) P Johnson are good for 80-to-100 innings, That's 1/2 the work

Then we usually have 4 guys for 40 relief innings + 1/4 of the innings
(3) B Smith (4) Simmons (5) Hunt/Auger (6) Fristoe/Kohn

Then the final 1/4 is development, midweek, 13th inning, Hoover, and valiant stands, 6 for 24 to 12 innings
(7) kohn/Fristoe (8) Tepper (9) Hunt/Auger (10) Stinnett (11) Walling/Walker (12) Tullar

In this corporaty model - I think MSU is ok with the possibility that Fristoe, Hunt, or Tepper can be much better than we have seen. We generally get one Zac Houston leap in development in the season. Fristoe could be a 1st or 2nd round pick. We are not hoping that a converted 1B can pitch like in 2017, there are blue chippers in the mix.

Sorting all this out is the coaches job, wannabe schools panic and want to be Warren Nolan's #1 all season. MSU needs to have 5 to 7 rested war horses for the supers and then Omaha.

exactly

Commercecomet24
02-27-2022, 09:19 PM
The magic number for contender College Baseball pitching staffs is 7 for 600 innings. Teams are generally using 7 pitchers for 80% of all innings and 95% of conference innings. Then in regionals, it's 5 pitchers. Of all things MSU uses more than other teams I analyzed. Some teams use much less, like 5. MSU sometimes uses 12 with L/R mix that nobody else seems to have.

Off the cuff:
(1) Sims (2) C Smith and (3) P Johnson are good for 80-to-100 innings, That's 1/2 the work

Then we usually have 4 guys for 40 relief innings + 1/4 of the innings
(3) B Smith (4) Simmons (5) Hunt/Auger (6) Fristoe/Kohn

Then the final 1/4 is development, midweek, 13th inning, Hoover, and valiant stands, 6 for 24 to 12 innings
(7) kohn/Fristoe (8) Tepper (9) Hunt/Auger (10) Stinnett (11) Walling/Walker (12) Tullar

In this corporaty model - I think MSU is ok with the possibility that Fristoe, Hunt, or Tepper can be much better than we have seen. We generally get one Zac Houston leap in development in the season. Fristoe could be a 1st or 2nd round pick. We are not hoping that a converted 1B can pitch like in 2017, there are blue chippers in the mix.

Sorting all this out is the coaches job, wannabe schools panic and want to be Warren Nolan's #1 all season. MSU needs to have 5 to 7 rested war horses for the supers and then Omaha.

Man that's good stuff and what you just said is the reason we were so good in postseason. Lots of Pitchers who had been through the high leverage situations during the season and who weren't overused and had fresh arms. Was huge in our run. I think if I remember when I counted last year we had 20 guys throw at least one inning last year, that's crazy. Of course part of that was due to the expanded covid rosters but still. I love the way Lemonis and Foxhall manage our pitchers, even though some have screamed for us to use certain pitchers more often but our staff knows what they're doing.

Good stuff man, thanks for posting that!

basedog
02-27-2022, 09:35 PM
The magic number for contender College Baseball pitching staffs is 7 for 600 innings. Teams are generally using 7 pitchers for 80% of all innings and 95% of conference innings. Then in regionals, it's 5 pitchers. Of all things MSU uses more than other teams I analyzed. Some teams use much less, like 5. MSU sometimes uses 12 with L/R mix that nobody else seems to have.

Off the cuff:
(1) Sims (2) C Smith and (3) P Johnson are good for 80-to-100 innings, That's 1/2 the work

Then we usually have 4 guys for 40 relief innings + 1/4 of the innings
(3) B Smith (4) Simmons (5) Hunt/Auger (6) Fristoe/Kohn

Then the final 1/4 is development, midweek, 13th inning, Hoover, and valiant stands, 6 for 24 to 12 innings
(7) kohn/Fristoe (8) Tepper (9) Hunt/Auger (10) Stinnett (11) Walling/Walker (12) Tullar

In this corporaty model - I think MSU is ok with the possibility that Fristoe, Hunt, or Tepper can be much better than we have seen. We generally get one Zac Houston leap in development in the season. Fristoe could be a 1st or 2nd round pick. We are not hoping that a converted 1B can pitch like in 2017, there are blue chippers in the mix.

Sorting all this out is the coaches job, wannabe schools panic and want to be Warren Nolan's #1 all season. MSU needs to have 5 to 7 rested war horses for the supers and then Omaha.

Interesting research! Thanks for posting.

Commercecomet24
02-27-2022, 09:41 PM
Interesting research! Thanks for posting.

Hey Base, Cade is a DOG man! Love his competitiveness and aggression! Tell him don't change lol!

BeardoMSU
02-27-2022, 10:28 PM
The magic number for contender College Baseball pitching staffs is 7 for 600 innings. Teams are generally using 7 pitchers for 80% of all innings and 95% of conference innings. Then in regionals, it's 5 pitchers. Of all things MSU uses more than other teams I analyzed. Some teams use much less, like 5. MSU sometimes uses 12 with L/R mix that nobody else seems to have.

Off the cuff:
(1) Sims (2) C Smith and (3) P Johnson are good for 80-to-100 innings, That's 1/2 the work

Then we usually have 4 guys for 40 relief innings + 1/4 of the innings
(3) B Smith (4) Simmons (5) Hunt/Auger (6) Fristoe/Kohn

Then the final 1/4 is development, midweek, 13th inning, Hoover, and valiant stands, 6 for 24 to 12 innings
(7) kohn/Fristoe (8) Tepper (9) Hunt/Auger (10) Stinnett (11) Walling/Walker (12) Tullar

In this corporaty model - I think MSU is ok with the possibility that Fristoe, Hunt, or Tepper can be much better than we have seen. We generally get one Zac Houston leap in development in the season. Fristoe could be a 1st or 2nd round pick. We are not hoping that a converted 1B can pitch like in 2017, there are blue chippers in the mix.

Sorting all this out is the coaches job, wannabe schools panic and want to be Warren Nolan's #1 all season. MSU needs to have 5 to 7 rested war horses for the supers and then Omaha.

Dude! Awesome post.

basedog
02-27-2022, 10:52 PM
Hey Base, Cade is a DOG man! Love his competitiveness and aggression! Tell him don't change lol!

He has the "it" factor. He has a self driven motivation. Super young man!

Commercecomet24
02-27-2022, 11:01 PM
He has the "it" factor. He has a self driven motivation. Super young man!

He's a got a bright future!

CadaverDawg
02-28-2022, 12:33 AM
The magic number for contender College Baseball pitching staffs is 7 for 600 innings. Teams are generally using 7 pitchers for 80% of all innings and 95% of conference innings. Then in regionals, it's 5 pitchers. Of all things MSU uses more than other teams I analyzed. Some teams use much less, like 5. MSU sometimes uses 12 with L/R mix that nobody else seems to have.

Off the cuff:
(1) Sims (2) C Smith and (3) P Johnson are good for 80-to-100 innings, That's 1/2 the work

Then we usually have 4 guys for 40 relief innings + 1/4 of the innings
(3) B Smith (4) Simmons (5) Hunt/Auger (6) Fristoe/Kohn

Then the final 1/4 is development, midweek, 13th inning, Hoover, and valiant stands, 6 for 24 to 12 innings
(7) kohn/Fristoe (8) Tepper (9) Hunt/Auger (10) Stinnett (11) Walling/Walker (12) Tullar

In this corporaty model - I think MSU is ok with the possibility that Fristoe, Hunt, or Tepper can be much better than we have seen. We generally get one Zac Houston leap in development in the season. Fristoe could be a 1st or 2nd round pick. We are not hoping that a converted 1B can pitch like in 2017, there are blue chippers in the mix.

Sorting all this out is the coaches job, wannabe schools panic and want to be Warren Nolan's #1 all season. MSU needs to have 5 to 7 rested war horses for the supers and then Omaha.

More of this please. Great post

Todd4State
02-28-2022, 01:49 AM
The magic number for contender College Baseball pitching staffs is 7 for 600 innings. Teams are generally using 7 pitchers for 80% of all innings and 95% of conference innings. Then in regionals, it's 5 pitchers. Of all things MSU uses more than other teams I analyzed. Some teams use much less, like 5. MSU sometimes uses 12 with L/R mix that nobody else seems to have.

Off the cuff:
(1) Sims (2) C Smith and (3) P Johnson are good for 80-to-100 innings, That's 1/2 the work

Then we usually have 4 guys for 40 relief innings + 1/4 of the innings
(3) B Smith (4) Simmons (5) Hunt/Auger (6) Fristoe/Kohn

Then the final 1/4 is development, midweek, 13th inning, Hoover, and valiant stands, 6 for 24 to 12 innings
(7) kohn/Fristoe (8) Tepper (9) Hunt/Auger (10) Stinnett (11) Walling/Walker (12) Tullar

In this corporaty model - I think MSU is ok with the possibility that Fristoe, Hunt, or Tepper can be much better than we have seen. We generally get one Zac Houston leap in development in the season. Fristoe could be a 1st or 2nd round pick. We are not hoping that a converted 1B can pitch like in 2017, there are blue chippers in the mix.

Sorting all this out is the coaches job, wannabe schools panic and want to be Warren Nolan's #1 all season. MSU needs to have 5 to 7 rested war horses for the supers and then Omaha.

Yep. Seven is my magic number for pitchers as well. The way I see it ideally:

Fri- Ace 1
Sat- Ace 2 in a perfect world we would have two potential first round picks in these first two spots. That is VERY rare and I don't believe has ever happened in MSU history- yet. I'm talking Cole/Bauer at UCLA and Leiter/Rocker at Vandy.
Sun

Midweek guy- I would prefer it be a senior like a Peyton Plumlee or Houston Harding who has a lot of experience and can give us 5-6 quality innings on Tuesday and is good enough to face people like Ole Miss and USM and at the same time match up against the Memphis, UT-Martin's and etc and win. Also a guy that could transition to the bullpen for potential spot relief if a starter gets knocked out early or become a weekend starter if someone falters.

Closer- Someone like Sims or Holder that is more of a traditional closer but in college you hope to have a guy that could go 2-3 innings unlike MLB where it's 1 inning.
Set-up- Someone like Preston Johnson last year that you can use for 1-2 shutdown innings during the regular season but could go 3-4 in the postseason.
Relief ace- My example here would be Kevin Kopps at Arkansas. A guy that you can use for a long extended outing and get a win although I would prefer to only use them once a weekend rather than Arkansas using him every game it seemed like. Maybe lik ea Jacob Lindgren for us.

And then as my personal preference I would like to see us have an arm angle guy like a Saunders Ramsey/Chad Girodo/Caleb Reed that we could use if all hell breaks loose or could use midweek to eat up innings and save our staff.

Tater
02-28-2022, 09:04 AM
The hitting coach needs to put his philosophy of letting the players fail and then coach them up in the garbage. Im sick and tired of starting every season this bad at hitting.

Idk man. Omaha, Omaha, Covid, Champions. I kinda like his strat. "It's not how you start, it's how you finish."