MSU - UT BBall game thread

[R2Dawg]

We don't come out like we want in the tourney. At home NCAAT on line. Not a good look, even commentators saying it, it is so obvious.

[R2Dawg]

Settle down and we can get back in the game

[EdwardDrayton]

Not sure how to delete my game thread R2 but we?ll roll with yours. Maybe Beardo can delete mine.

TN started strong but we?re scrapping. Don?t think TN can play at this level the entire game.

[R2Dawg]

Jeffries playing at a higher level tonight. This is what I expected from him.

[R2Dawg]

Not sure how to delete my game thread R2 but we?ll roll with yours. Maybe Beardo can delete mine.

TN started strong but we?re scrapping. Don?t think TN can play at this level the entire game.

Sorry I looked and didn't see one. I agree UT coming back down to earth now. If we get rollin the Hump crowd will lift this team.

[EdwardDrayton]

Sorry I looked and didn't see one. I agree UT coming back down to earth now. If we get rollin the Hump crowd will lift this team.

No worries. Think we had the same idea simultaneously.

[BayouDawg]

After a turd of a start they are looking better now. Why are we giving up so many offensive rebounds lately?

[R2Dawg]

UT pressure D is pretty good. We must break it down to get open shots.

[R2Dawg]

After a turd of a start they are looking better now. Why are we giving up so many offensive rebounds lately?

Good question, we have not been good.

[RougeDawg]

After a turd of a start they are looking better now. Why are we giving up so many offensive rebounds lately?

Howland induced vaginitis.

[R2Dawg]

DJ continues to play hard.

[R2Dawg]

Now time to take over this game.

[EdwardDrayton]

BAM!! Molinar with the bucket and we?re right back in it!!!

[RocketDawg]

The net barely moved on Molinar's last 3.

[Commercecomet24]

Bad start good comeback

[R2Dawg]

When we are engaged, we are sweet 16 and maybe elite 8 quality.

[RougeDawg]

When we are engaged, we are sweet 16 and maybe elite 8 quality.

Too bad we are stuck in neutral about 50% of the time.

[R2Dawg]

We got really out of synch at end of half.

[Commercecomet24]

Too bad we are stuck in neutral about 50% of the time.

That's what makes us so frustrating to watch!

[LC Dawg]

Moore is very streaky and he's currently on a bad streak.

[EdwardDrayton]

Scratched back from 14-2 early so there?s some fight in these Dawgs!! We can do this!!

[R2Dawg]

Moore is very streaky and he's currently on a bad streak.

Yes we need him back to form to make a run

[parabrave]

Somebody got in Jeffries ear. Now do the same to Moore.

[BayouDawg]

As bad as they are overplaying up top we could tear them up with some back cuts

[Saltydog]

Offensively our ball movement is just horrendous! You're easy to guard when you don't move.

[parabrave]

Dam just get Moore out of there.

[Schultzy]

I applaud all of you still holding out hope for the ‘22 asketball season, you deserve some kind of fan award or BDC loyalty points or something.

[BayouDawg]

Offensively our ball movement is just horrendous! You're easy to guard when you don't move.

Yea and it appears that is Howlands actual offensive strategy

[EdwardDrayton]

Gotta? make free throws. Need better than 65%.

[BayouDawg]

What the hell? Why didnt we shoot free throws the last 2 fouls?

[BayouDawg]

Gotta? make free throws. Need better than 65%.

We seriously went o-4 the last 2 times with Moore and smith? Holy shit.

[Commercecomet24]

Ut lots of movement on offense we are a still painting

[BayouDawg]

Brooks has looked better this half. But once again the little things are haunting us. Missed free throws and not blocking out.

[BeardoMSU]

This crowd is shameful

[LC Dawg]

Moore seriously needs to sit but Rocket is throwing up air balls so he's not the answer.

[BayouDawg]

We finally had some good ball movement ending with a botched dunk.

[R2Dawg]

Offensively our ball movement is just horrendous! You're easy to guard when you don't move.

Yeah signs of a poorly coached team.

[Saltydog]

Marginal team, marginal crowd!

[Irondawg]

Howland has never really thought being able to shoot was a necessary skill. He likes to think he can make them good shooters with all the fancy shooting trajectory toys we?ve bought.

[R2Dawg]

Another 12 minutes of our season on the line.

[Commercecomet24]

Marginal team, marginal crowd!

We're are just so frustrating to watch. We show spurts of being pretty good and then we just fold it up. Different year same story of Howland since he's been here.

[Schultzy]

Texas Tech scouting report on us found on their bench after the game…”soft/lazy.”

[BeardoMSU]

We're are just so frustrating to watch. We show spurts of being pretty good and then we just fold it up. Different year same story of Howland since he's been here.
That's the DNA of our program, outside a couple years.

[BeardoMSU]

Holy ****.

[BayouDawg]

We're are just so frustrating to watch. We show spurts of being pretty good and then we just fold it up. Different year same story of Howland since he's been here.

Yea each offensive possession is just hard to watch.

[R2Dawg]

Cam been a TO machine tonight. Hate to say it but if we lose this game, this team may fold. Seems we got some just hangin by a thread right now.

[Commercecomet24]

That's the DNA of our program, outside a couple years.

I enjoyed watching Richard Williams teams play. They were always tough and physical and even early stans years were fun to watch. Howlands team each year is like watching a replay of the previous year. Nothing changes

[CJDAWG85]

Cam is not a SEC caliber player. He plays hard on D but an absolute liability on O.

[PGHBulldogBG]

The ability to not shoot the 3 at all and free throws outside of Molinar are a big part of why the last 5-10 minutes of a game become a disaster. We really miss Stewart and would be a 7 or 8 seed with him. Alabama is the only game I remember not counting a non conference quad 3 team where we didn?t mess up at the end

[R2Dawg]

Huge 3 by Moore

[LC Dawg]

Maybe that will get Moore going.

[R2Dawg]

Boom

[BayouDawg]

2 big 3s to take back the lead!

[R2Dawg]

We have been outstanding at home, can we finish?

[BeardoMSU]

Ok. Let's see if we can finish this.

[Schultzy]

We have been outstanding at home, can we finish?

Yes…I the NIT

[BeardoMSU]

We are ****ing putrid on offense

[BeardoMSU]

So careless

[BayouDawg]

This team just cant execute consistently. 2 big 3s to take the lead then head scratching turnovers.

[EdwardDrayton]

Brooks is money from 12-15 ft.

[R2Dawg]

Brooks has played well tonight. He is a stud on mid range game.

[BayouDawg]

Brooks is balling now! This is the brooks we need.

[R2Dawg]

Good foul by Brooks

[R2Dawg]

We are not playing with enough urgency on D right now. Don't understand why

[Commercecomet24]

I swear we're brain dead sometimes. How you leave a shooter that open on an inbounds

[Cowbell]

I will never understand Howland calling timeouts when we have the momentum....

[R2Dawg]

Cam with nice bucket

[maroonmania]

Wonderful inbound defense.***

[Commercecomet24]

I will never understand Howland calling timeouts when we have the momentum....

We're playing in the 1960s

[Commercecomet24]

Just let him runs down the dang lane! Geez

[R2Dawg]

UT guards are very good.

[BayouDawg]

Its almost impressive how may bad free throw shooters we have on one team.

[Commercecomet24]

Our defense sucks right now and to many empty possessions

[maroonmania]

And then a layup allowed on the next trip.

[BayouDawg]

UT guards are very good.

In the games they have struggled teams zoned them a good bit. Too bad we wont do it.

[R2Dawg]

This has to be Howland's last chance. It does scare me that Rick Ray II is in the wings but

[PGHBulldogBG]

Its almost impressive how may bad free throw shooters we have on one team.

The only reason our FT percentage is half way decent is because of Molinar. Nobody else can make a free throw.

[Cowbell]

Its almost impressive how may bad free throw shooters we have on one team.

It's impressive how many people we have on the court at once that can't shoot. If it wasn't for Molinar, we would be bottom of the league. Molinar is special.

[R2Dawg]

We don't do anything creative on O or D to stress another team - ever.

[Cowbell]

We're playing in the 1960s

That's right

[CJDAWG85]

It?s pretty clear tonight that we have the talent to run with them or any team in the league? Howland is and always has been the problem.

[R2Dawg]

Their best shooter left wide open

[R2Dawg]

2.5 minutes to decide Howland and MSU season.

[R2Dawg]

Hate 1 is hurt but if he had got hurt earlier, we win this game easy. He has killed us.

[maroonmania]

We don't do anything creative on O or D to stress another team - ever.

Howland has no game strategy. Never has.

[R2Dawg]

They have driven to goal all night.

[msudawglb]

I?m not sure how anyone can watch this game and not see how badly we are coached. Our offense compared to theirs is like night and day. Their movement is how it should be played.

And our defense is straight up garbage.

[Commercecomet24]

We don't do anything creative on O or D to stress another team - ever.

Yep we're just on the court and that's it

[maroonmania]

And TN scores 10 points on their last 4 possessions. What a joke.

[PGHBulldogBG]

I?ve pretty much become numb to Howland. I?ve accepted the fact with
Howland we will be between 7-11 and 11-7 in SEC play. It?s up to Cohen and the donors to decide if that?s acceptable.

[Commercecomet24]

We're pissing away a big opportunity tonight

[R2Dawg]

Ballgame, season gone, Howland should be.

[Commercecomet24]

Miss both free throws. Pathetic. This team just ain't got much heart

[BayouDawg]

This team just continuously makes losing plays. Howland needs to retire

[R2Dawg]

We're pissing away a big opportunity tonight

Blew them all year; we had a gift schedule to make tourney, just show a pulse. They wanted to put us in all year.

[Commercecomet24]

Welcome to the nit!

[Commercecomet24]

Blew them all year; we had a gift schedule to make tourney, just show a pulse. They wanted to put us in all year.

Cannot argue with that. We should already be in but we just can't get it done.

[Commercecomet24]

This team just continuously makes losing plays. Howland needs to retire

It's time.

[CJDAWG85]

Close game under 5 minutes? coaching wins the game? we don?t?

[R2Dawg]

Molinar got fouled.

[BuckyIsAB****]

13 is just not very good

[Commercecomet24]

Close game under 5 minutes? coaching wins the game? we don?t?

Game after close game

[R2Dawg]

Close game under 5 minutes? coaching wins the game? we don?t?

We can't win a close game

[maroonmania]

This team just continuously makes losing plays. Howland needs to retire

Yep, I am more than ready for Howland to go. Sure, we could definitely do worse but Howland's coaching is so bad its obvious we will never accomplish anything as long as he is here. You have to TRY to get a coach that isn't 20 years past his prime.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Every time I give this team a chance we blow it. Thats why the place is not packed with the tourney on the line.

Move the students back courtside too, put the old folks behind the goal

[R2Dawg]

13 is just not very good

Transfer portal did not produce as good as expected.

[Commercecomet24]

Yep, I am more than ready for Howland to go. Sure, we could definitely do worse but Howland's coaching is so bad its obvious we will never accomplish anything as long as he is here. You have to TRY to get a coach that isn't 20 years past his prime.

Heck I'd just like to see a little more exciting brand of basketball. Feel like I'm watching George Mikhan and Bob Cousy play.

[R2Dawg]

Every time I give this team a chance we blow it. Thats why the place is not packed with the tourney on the line.

Move the students back courtside too, put the old folks behind the goal

This must be done. Tired of watching Auburn of all places have a great atmosphere while we this dumb stuff.

[Dawsonmsu]

10 years is way too long. Please bring back Rick Stansbury!

[BeardoMSU]

Perfect.

[Commercecomet24]

Not only are we very average but we're boring. Nothing about our play on offense or defense screams excitement. We haven't scored in forever

[maroonmania]

Howland's recruiting hasn't really even been that good at State if you take away all the legacies we've had available during his tenure.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Perfect ending. Done.

Im not a basketball guy but we are just stupid and dont get it

[BayouDawg]

10 years is way too long. Please bring back Rick Stansbury!

Id like someone that has a good offensive philosophy.

[BeardoMSU]

How many turnovers in the past few possessions, lol?

[Commercecomet24]

Time to try something else. We're not prepared to play and we have no idea how to finish a game. That's coaching.

[BeardoMSU]

Id like someone that has a good offensive philosophy.

Indeed

[Commercecomet24]

How many turnovers in the past few possessions, lol?

I quit counting. It's like we just gave up

[maroonmania]

Not sure why even tuned in. I turned it on when we were ahead 59-58 and we get outscored the rest of the 14-4. Awful.

[maroonmania]

Not only are we very average but we're boring. Nothing about our play on offense or defense screams excitement. We haven't scored in forever

Agree, that's why I say our coaching is so bad. We play a terrible, boring brand of basketball. I've only watched a couple of games all year. Its not even entertaining.

[Commercecomet24]

Not sure why even tuned in. I turned it on when we were ahead 59-58 and we get outscored the rest of the 14-4. Awful.

Started slow and finished slow. Lather rinse repeat

[CJDAWG85]

Tie game with 4:42 left and they end the game on a 11-2 run. Bahahahahaha

[Maroonthirteen]

Well I was wondering since this was a "must win" what bill of goods will be sold going forward. ESPN provided...

"State has 3 more Quad 1 games remaining to boost their resume." HahahahahahHa. Yeah that will happen.

[EdwardDrayton]

Just not able to take advantage of rhe opportunities late in the season. But proud of our players!!!

It?s time to admit we need changes at the leadership level. President Keenum, we need fresh leadership not only at the coaching level but also at the AD position.

IT?S TIME FOR CHANGE!!!

[Joebob]

Move the students back courtside too, put the old folks behind the goal

Hey, I'm not old.

[PGHBulldogBG]

So Novak has faced players dealing with their previous coach having health issues,COVID issues, players transferring mid season and he is in a better position to take his team to the NCAA tournament and we don?t know if he will be our permanent coach but Howland has been here 7 years with a bunch of talent and 1 tournament appearance.

[maroonmania]

Well I was wondering since this was a "must win" what bill of goods will be sold going forward. ESPN provided...

"State has 3 more Quad 1 games remaining to boost their resume." HahahahahahHa. Yeah that will happen.

We will have more 'quality losses' than just about anyone around.***

[Commercecomet24]

So Novak has faced players dealing with their previous coach having health issues,COVID issues, players transferring mid season and he is in a better position to take his team to the NCAA tournament and we don?t know if he will be our permanent coach but Howland has been here 7 years with a bunch of talent and 1 tournament appearance.

It's been a very mediocre tenure for sure. Claims to have the talent every year but we wind up in exactly the same place.

[maroonmania]

It's been a very mediocre tenure for sure. Claims to have the talent every year but we wind up in exactly the same place.

Most of Howland's teams here have been talented enough to get into the NCAA tournament if they were well coached but they aren't.

[Commercecomet24]

Most of Howland's teams here have been talented enough to get into the NCAA tournament if they were well coached but they aren't.

Yep I agree 100%. Enough talent not enough coaching. Same ole story every year. Every game we have these huge scoring droughts sometime we overcome them against the weaker teams but can't do it against the good ones. Every season is a replay of the last. Nothing changes

[MoreCowbell]

Howland just does not care anymore. His brand of basketball is tired and his unwillingness to try ANYTHING different is infuriating. Players take on their coach mentality and that is stagnant and bored.

Retire Howland. I really do appreciate where he got us to, it is a much more attractive job now thanks to him but please can we get some new blood in here.

It is time.

[maroonmania]

Howland just does not care anymore. His brand of basketball is tired and his unwillingness to try ANYTHING different is infuriating. Players take on their coach mentality and that is stagnant and bored.

Retire Howland. I really do appreciate where he got us to, it is a much more attractive job now thanks to him but please can we get some new blood in here.

It is time.

Hey Howland,why not just throw a zone defense out there every now and again just for the heck of it. It would at least shock our opponent.

[MoreCowbell]

Howland has recruited great athletes but not good basketball players. We have no shooters. Low basketball IQ. Thank you for what you have done Howland but it can not be fun for you anymore.

[CaptainObvious]

I know we have been the athletics program where washed up coaches go to draw multi-million dollar retirement contracts. But when exactly did that happen? When LT hired Sherrill, the re-hired Polk? Is that when State became a retirement home for old coaches? And don?t people usually have to PAY to live in a retirement home? Not here. We make ?em Multi-millionaires. Our AD must truly like it up the rear because he keeps letting these old guys ram it home and make him like it! 😞😞😞😞

[Commercecomet24]

Howland has recruited great athletes but not good basketball players. We have no shooters. Low basketball IQ. Thank you for what you have done Howland but it can not be fun for you anymore.

The basketball team is almost the antithesis of our baseball team.

[maroonmania]

Howland just does not care anymore. His brand of basketball is tired and his unwillingness to try ANYTHING different is infuriating. Players take on their coach mentality and that is stagnant and bored.

Retire Howland. I really do appreciate where he got us to, it is a much more attractive job now thanks to him but please can we get some new blood in here.

It is time.

Hey Howland,why not just throw a zone defense out there every now and again just for the heck of it? It would at least shock our opponent.

[CaptainObvious]

Does the Tin Gym still have bleachers in it?

We could move both basketball programs back in there, tear the Hump down and build a 3000 vehicle parking garage for baseball and football.

[msudawglb]

We have been tied inside 5 minutes with each team in 4 of our last 5 losses. In each of those 4 we ended up losing by at least 8 points.

[EdwardDrayton]

It?s just not enough to make a change at the coaching level. I?ve been a John Cohen fan from the outset of his tenure but we need a professional AD to take the next step. Both he and Howland will forever be Dawgs but it?s time for change.

[OLJWales]

17 Howland. 17 our players. 17 our limp dicked program. Not surprised with tonight.

[MoreCowbell]

Hey Howland,why not just throw a zone defense out there every now and again just for the heck of it. It would at least shock our opponent.

Exactly