Say what you want BUT

[SilentSteel16]

Will Rogers is a much better QB and 10x the QB fit for Mike Leach offense

[msstate7]

Much better fit, I agree.

Could you imagine will trying to run OM's qb running, throw it deep offense?

[SilentSteel16]

Almost like there was a reason he didn’t go there. Certain players are built for certain offenses. Rogers is where he should be. Alt was offered I am sure but he was not the top of our wishlist for sure. Sawyer was rated higher and I believe a much better QB for our style of offense.

[msstate7]

Almost like there was a reason he didn’t go there. Certain players are built for certain offenses. Rogers is where he should be. Alt was offered I am sure but he was not the top of our wishlist for sure. Sawyer was rated higher and I believe a much better QB for our style of offense.
You made the statement will was the better qb and justified it by saying he fits leach's offense better. Would Rogers be the "much better qb" in their offense? Just found your statement weird

[SilentSteel16]

Let me be clear on this. Will Rogers is a better QB than Altmeyer. Regardless of system this is the case. In Mike Leach system Will Rogers is 10x the QB of Altmeyer. For your sake of argument, Tom Brady would not fit a QB run offense for crap, Will Rogers fits the Brady mold better than Alt, Alt fits the Vick role better than Rogers, hell if you talk about schemes, Plumlee is a better QB than Alt in a QB running offense.

[msstate7]

Let me be clear on this. Will Rogers is a better QB than Altmeyer. Regardless of system this is the case. In Mike Leach system Will Rogers is 10x the QB of Altmeyer. For your sake of argument, Tom Brady would not fit a QB run offense for crap, Will Rogers fits the Brady mold better than Alt, Alt fits the Vick role better than Rogers, hell if you talk about schemes, Plumlee is a better QB than Alt in a QB running offense.

Nah, you gotta be able to run and hit the long pass. Plumlee can't hit the pass part

[SilentSteel16]

And yes, I would rather have Rogers over Alt in any offense that requires a QB to make decisions with the ball. Rogers is not mobile I get that, most pocket QBs are not mobile. Pocket QBs are more in demand than scramblers. Again it depends on the system but if Either Manning was in same draft as Vick, Vick would have gone 3rd QB off the board unless there was a non traditional team dying for a QB.

[SilentSteel16]

Going to end it like this, if Will Rogers was on that roster at Ole Miss. You would have seen him instead of Alt tonight.

[FriarsPoint]

I’m still hesitant on this offense. Leach needs to get his shit together and 1) beat kiffin 2) prove his worth in the postseason. Right now history is against him. Regardless of who the qb is.

[msstate7]

Rogers first action was vs Kentucky...
9/15 43 yds 0 td 2 int

He's came a long way, and I expect altmyer to also. Judging a freshman qb on their first contested outing is dumb

[Dak Holliday]

And yes, I would rather have Rogers over Alt in any offense that requires a QB to make decisions with the ball. Rogers is not mobile I get that, most pocket QBs are not mobile. Pocket QBs are more in demand than scramblers. Again it depends on the system but if Either Manning was in same draft as Vick, Vick would have gone 3rd QB off the board unless there was a non traditional team dying for a QB.

Ok. This thread is ridiculously biased and not even attempted to be rooted in discernment or rationale. Your opinion on QBs is extremely warped and should be treated as such. 😂

[Cowbell]

Will can be an all-American, but if Leach doesn't become more innovative it won't matter.

[Dak Holliday]

Will can be an all-American, but if Leach doesn't become more innovative it won't matter.

I can agree with this.

[SilentSteel16]

Ok. This thread is ridiculously biased and not even attempted to be rooted in discernment or rationale. Your opinion on QBs is extremely warped and should be treated as such. ��

Coming from the biggest troll on this site I find your opinion gold.

Not a bias at all Rogers is a better QB than Alt. Alt won’t sniff Matt Corral status at OM. Rogers will set the bar at State.

[SilentSteel16]

Dak Prescott not this Dak troll has been one of the best ambassadors for our University. He did a tremendous job here for us, but I believe we will achieve more under Rogers/Leach time here than Prescott/Mullins.

[msstate7]

Dak Prescott not this Dak troll has been one of the best ambassadors for our University. He did a tremendous job here for us, but I believe we will achieve more under Rogers/Leach time here than Prescott/Mullins.

That's quite a statement. Dak and Dan won 19 games dak's final 2 seasons, made a NY6, and was a playoff committee #1 for what 6 weeks?

[Dak Holliday]

Coming from the biggest troll on this site I find your opinion gold.

Not a bias at all Rogers is a better QB than Alt. Alt won’t sniff Matt Corral status at OM. Rogers will set the bar at State.

I?ve stated that he will set the bar at MSU as well. This doesn?t take a genius to see. Dealing 40 5 yd passes a game does not a good QB make. He will own the stat sheet at the cost of us running a better offensive scheme. Also, Will is not mobile by pocket passer standards. And I appreciate that you see me as a troll. Most overly sensitive fanboys do. So, don?t let me keep you from your anime, Silent Steel. It?s getting late. 😂

[Dak Holliday]

Dak Prescott not this Dak troll has been one of the best ambassadors for our University. He did a tremendous job here for us, but I believe we will achieve more under Rogers/Leach time here than Prescott/Mullins.

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[SilentSteel16]

Yes it is, I believe in the talent this team will have. Do I believe we need some breaks to go our way? Absolutely. Just like with Daks team, they had some breaks as well. The talent will be there to outscore opponents. Could CML bend some and change up play calls? Absolutely. Could Dan Mullen call something besides one of his 4 plays? No. Did either CML or Mullen have a chance to beat Alabama, No. could Leach do it, yes.


Call me a homer all you want, but I do believe in this team especially if we can keep Arnett.

[FriarsPoint]

Yes it is, I believe in the talent this team will have. Do I believe we need some breaks to go our way? Absolutely. Just like with Daks team, they had some breaks as well. The talent will be there to outscore opponents. Could CML bend some and change up play calls? Absolutely. Could Dan Mullen call something besides one of his 4 plays? No. Did either CML or Mullen have a chance to beat Alabama, No. could Leach do it, yes.


Call me a homer all you want, but I do believe in this team especially if we can keep Arnett.

One thing I’ll agree with here. Leach can beat Saban. Mullen never was nor will.

[Dak Holliday]

Yes it is, I believe in the talent this team will have. Do I believe we need some breaks to go our way? Absolutely. Just like with Daks team, they had some breaks as well. The talent will be there to outscore opponents. Could CML bend some and change up play calls? Absolutely. Could Dan Mullen call something besides one of his 4 plays? No. Did either CML or Mullen have a chance to beat Alabama, No. could Leach do it, yes.


Call me a homer all you want, but I do believe in this team especially if we can keep Arnett.

I?d venture that you?re just very young. These are thoughts of a youthful optimist.

[SilentSteel16]

I?ve stated that he will set the bar at MSU as well. This doesn?t take a genius to see. Dealing 40 5 yd passes a game does not a good QB make. He will own the stat sheet at the cost of us running a better offensive scheme. Also, Will is not mobile by pocket passer standards. And I appreciate that you see me as a troll. Most overly sensitive fanboys do. So, don?t let me keep you from your anime, Silent Steel. It?s getting late. ��

Not real sure what anime is, but I guess I best get to it. You are that stuff you have to use a stick to get from in between your boot treads. I will let you fill in that blank. Just recently found out what a troll was and once I read it I knew exactly who fit the bill. Hail State everyone

[Dak Holliday]

Not real sure what anime is, but I guess I best get to it. You are that stuff you have to use a stick to get from in between your boot treads. I will let you fill in that blank. Just recently found out what a troll was and once I read it I knew exactly who fit the bill. Hail State everyone

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Sure thing, Silent Steel.

[bulldawg28]

One thing I?ll agree with here. Leach can beat Saban. Mullen never was nor will.

Leach will never beat Saban with the current model on offense. Heck, Leach hasn't beaten Kiffin yet.

[FriarsPoint]

Leach will never beat Saban with the current model on offense. Heck, Leach hasn't beaten Kiffin yet.

Yes he will.

[Dawgology]

More than anything Leach needs to develop a team with consistency. They have been all over the place these last two seasons.

[Bothrops]

I expect to win 6 or 7 games total next season if Rogers is the qb. In other words, he's peaked in ability. Even if Sawyer is a little better in practice this spring, I think Leach sticks with Rogers. We lost the last two games and one in blowout fashion. Will has peaked.

[basedog]

I expect to win 6 or 7 games total next season if Rogers is the qb. In other words, he's peaked in ability. Even if Sawyer is a little better in practice this spring, I think Leach sticks with Rogers. We lost the last two games and one in blowout fashion. Will has peaked.

Maybe it's Leach who has reached his peak.

[msstate7]

I expect to win 6 or 7 games total next season if Rogers is the qb. In other words, he's peaked in ability. Even if Sawyer is a little better in practice this spring, I think Leach sticks with Rogers. We lost the last two games and one in blowout fashion. Will has peaked.

Rogers can improve, and he will improve. He'll make quicker decisions, look off defenders better, and make better reads as he gets more experience. His limitations are arm strength and athleticism though, and those aren't gonna improve. Will's accuracy will allow him to be a really good college qb as long as his oline and WRs are good... he won't be able to elevate those position groups like a true difference maker.

[BuckyIsAB****]

OMs offense hardly ever pushes it down the field. When they do it is one read throw it as far as you can or run it.

It is way more RPO easy completions or a handoff and go fast. It is extremely simple and Will ran something pretty similar to it his SR year of HS. The only reason the QB ran it so much was bc of Corral. Corral is not a NFL QB between the ears he has never been asked to do half of what Will has done. He could go over there and run that and be fine.

dont forget that as young as Altmeyer is, him and Will are the same age. In wills first couple drives as a starter he took us down and Heath has a TD in his hands that he let the UK kid take from him. Altmeyer is not in the same conversation as Will. Never really has been even in HS

[BuckyIsAB****]

I expect to win 6 or 7 games total next season if Rogers is the qb. In other words, he's peaked in ability. Even if Sawyer is a little better in practice this spring, I think Leach sticks with Rogers. We lost the last two games and one in blowout fashion. Will has peaked.

Care to make a wager on that?

[R2Dawg]

One thing I?ll agree with here. Leach can beat Saban. Mullen never was nor will.

OK so what have you seen from Leach that gives you one inkling he can beat Saban? His O - not, his D - not. Mullen came a lot closer than Leach has. Mullen coached scared and should have beat Saban twice but Leach ain't showed me anything that he can beat great teams.

We only had what 4 good games this year, that is it. Think about that for a minute.

[msstate7]

One thing I’ll agree with here. Leach can beat Saban. Mullen never was nor will.

Leach lost what 7 straight to Washington bc of the big talent gap. That gap is even bigger between us and bama

[PGHBulldogBG]

To be fair finding a coach to beat Saban is extremely difficult. Neither Kiffin nor Leach will do it unless someone starts cheating like Freeze did and then the game gets vacated. Dabo is honestly the only coach right now I see being able to do it here and there. Bama will beat UGA again Monday night. I know Gus did it a few times but I?m suspicious he focused so much on that one game it caused them to lose several they shouldn?t have each year.

[msstate7]

To be fair finding a coach to beat Saban is extremely difficult. Neither Kiffin nor Leach will do it unless someone starts cheating like Freeze did and then the game gets vacated. Dabo is honestly the only coach right now I see being able to do it here and there. Bama will beat UGA again Monday night. I know Gus did it a few times but I?m suspicious he focused so much on that one game it caused them to lose several they shouldn?t have each year.

We should never use "can he beat saban" as a consideration when hiring a HC. We should ask ourselves can he win games against OM, Kentucky, ark, auburn, aTm, etc

[PikeDawg15]

I?m expecting 8-9 wins next year, if only we didn?t have Georgia on that schedule

[bulldawg28]

Care to make a wager on that?

On wins or peaking?

[msstate7]

I?m expecting 8-9 wins next year, if only we didn?t have Georgia on that schedule

Memphis
At Arizona
At lsu
Bowling green
aTm
Ark
At Kentucky
At bama
Auburn
Georgia
Etsu
At OM

I think 8 will be extremely tough. 9 would be a miracle

ETA... that stretch from aTm to Georgia is brutal

[PikeDawg15]

We catch LSU in week 3 , hopefully they are still figuring things out as a team when we play them.

ATM is at home
Arky at home
Kentucky will be mostly the same as last year but yeah it?s in Lexington

Auburn at home and we beat them this year with a team that will be majorly improved

OM should be majorly regressed.

As of now I think
Loss to bama
Loss to ATM
Loss to Georgia
And we will lose one of LSU, Kentucky, arky

[vindastra]

Debbie downer here:

1. We will continue to be the same next year too. Current QB will not breach the 10 yard mark. Our WRs will often run into open grass and then break out their Rubik's cube while waiting for the ball that never comes their way.
2. Our RBs will get those hard-fought 2 yards on designated runs.
3. Our special teams will continue to be special.

I just don't see where those 8 wins are gonna come from.

[Dak Holliday]

OMs offense hardly ever pushes it down the field. When they do it is one read throw it as far as you can or run it.

It is way more RPO easy completions or a handoff and go fast. It is extremely simple and Will ran something pretty similar to it his SR year of HS. The only reason the QB ran it so much was bc of Corral. Corral is not a NFL QB between the ears he has never been asked to do half of what Will has done. He could go over there and run that and be fine.

dont forget that as young as Altmeyer is, him and Will are the same age. In wills first couple drives as a starter he took us down and Heath has a TD in his hands that he let the UK kid take from him. Altmeyer is not in the same conversation as Will. Never really has been even in HS

You are correct, B. Same age and weren?t in the same conversation. Altmyer was a much higher touted recruit.

Will can?t side step a rusher in our system. In games where he is rushed and maybe sacked 1-2 times, we have been horrible. He is a great AirRaid QB and it?s almost completely due to what?s between his ears. He?s smart- maybe world class smart, but he?s not a tremendous athlete. He will be good in our system granted we give him good blocking. If not, he will put up big numbers in lopsided losses like in the Liberty.

[PikeDawg15]

If we do not go get a portal kicker I will be infuriated.

[PikeDawg15]

Also just from watching last night , damn ole miss really missed out on percy Lewis, they needed him bad

[Dak Holliday]

I had thought folks were saying that their O line was pretty good. Last night, Baylor owned them.

[NCDawg]

Yes it is, I believe in the talent this team will have. Do I believe we need some breaks to go our way? Absolutely. Just like with Daks team, they had some breaks as well. The talent will be there to outscore opponents. Could CML bend some and change up play calls? Absolutely. Could Dan Mullen call something besides one of his 4 plays? No. Did either CML or Mullen have a chance to beat Alabama, No. could Leach do it, yes.


Call me a homer all you want, but I do believe in this team especially if we can keep Arnett.


Doesn't appear we have very good depth on defense if you go by the bowl game. TT ran all over us and we made terrible tackling attempts. In any event, we need to get a whole lot stronger. Shouldn't let the opposition run almost 5 yards for a TD though the center of your defense without even being touched.