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donald igwebuike
12-30-2021, 02:31 PM
whipping UNC in that Mayo Bowl.

Must be nice.

BrunswickDawg
12-30-2021, 02:37 PM
Beamer is the guy we should have hired either 4 years ago or 2 years ago. Raised in coaching, known recruiter, had been on our staff, married to an MSU alum - and I doubt he got a call either time.

donald igwebuike
12-30-2021, 02:40 PM
I agree. Like the pedigree and the fire he has.

donald igwebuike
12-30-2021, 02:41 PM
"Beamer brings an energy, everyday to the team".

Again....nice

msstate7
12-30-2021, 02:43 PM
Beamer is the guy we should have hired either 4 years ago or 2 years ago. Raised in coaching, known recruiter, had been on our staff, married to an MSU alum - and I doubt he got a call either time.

I'm certainly not a huge leach fan, but I don't think I'd have passed on leach for Beamer at the time. Although I hate leach's style, he does have the history of being able to win with lesser talent, and that's a big deal for a program like us. After I've saw Beamer as a HC, I'd make a trade though

donald igwebuike
12-30-2021, 02:45 PM
Same

basedog
12-30-2021, 02:45 PM
Beamer is refreshing! So much energy and passion.

Cooterpoot
12-30-2021, 02:53 PM
SC hasn't beaten anyone with a winning record

HoopsDawg
12-30-2021, 02:56 PM
Nice to see some physical football. Beamer is playing a brand of football that translates to MSU.

msstate7
12-30-2021, 03:11 PM
SC hasn't beaten anyone with a winning record

That'll change.

donald igwebuike
12-30-2021, 03:12 PM
Yep. Def a program on the ascension. Follow the H/C's energy.

BrunswickDawg
12-30-2021, 03:38 PM
I'm certainly not a huge leach fan, but I don't think I'd have passed on leach for Beamer at the time. Although I hate leach's style, he does have the history of being able to win with lesser talent, and that's a big deal for a program like us. After I've saw Beamer as a HC, I'd make a trade though

I actually like Leach, and I'm not saying fire him either. But, I think Beamer is one of those guys who comes along and has just been bred to be a special coach. Remember, Leach wasnt our first guy -he was our third. If we were willing to hire Joe Judge - who has less experience and pedigree - why the hell wasn't Beamer on that list ahead of him?

msstate7
12-30-2021, 03:49 PM
I actually like Leach, and I'm not saying fire him either. But, I think Beamer is one of those guys who comes along and has just been bred to be a special coach. Remember, Leach wasnt our first guy -he was our third. If we were willing to hire Joe Judge - who has less experience and pedigree - why the hell wasn't Beamer on that list ahead of him?

Good question

Cooterpoot
12-30-2021, 03:52 PM
That'll change.

Meh, I don't see it. They're a bottom feeder. Vandy and MO and them will be at the bottom.
FL won't suck like this year. TN is ascending faster and has more resources.

Ifyouonlyknew
12-30-2021, 04:02 PM
I'm definitely not a Leach apologizer but if we would've hired a guy who's never been a coordinator we would've trashed Cohen & Beamer. Especially after the Moorhead failure.

Commercecomet24
12-30-2021, 04:09 PM
I'm definitely not a Leach apologizer but if we would've hired a guy who's never been a coordinator we would've trashed Cohen & Beamer. Especially after the Moorhead failure.

Rational thought is not allowed on here lol

Catfish
12-30-2021, 04:13 PM
They will be lucky to get 7 wins next year.

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://fbschedules.com/2022-south-carolina-football-schedule/&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwj3oZiZuIz1AhVLFjQIHQEoBksQFnoECAkQAg&usg=AOvVaw2CiF5blVbt7oHJywOe1cEb

basedog
12-30-2021, 04:15 PM
I'm definitely not a Leach apologizer but if we would've hired a guy who's never been a coordinator we would've trashed Cohen & Beamer. Especially after the Moorhead failure.

Probably so, but it’s looking like a good hire. Sly was never a coordinator either.

ScooterDog
12-30-2021, 04:21 PM
Hey, 2 or 3 years from now after Leach is gone, maybe he will be at the top of our list.

msstate7
12-30-2021, 04:23 PM
They will be lucky to get 7 wins next year.

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://fbschedules.com/2022-south-carolina-football-schedule/&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwj3oZiZuIz1AhVLFjQIHQEoBksQFnoECAkQAg&usg=AOvVaw2CiF5blVbt7oHJywOe1cEb

Us too.

Commercecomet24
12-30-2021, 04:31 PM
Probably so, but it’s looking like a good hire. Sly was never a coordinator either.

Croom was OC for the lions for 4 years. Now if you're talking about college he wasn't but he was an nfl oc for 4 years

BrunswickDawg
12-30-2021, 04:36 PM
I'm definitely not a Leach apologizer but if we would've hired a guy who's never been a coordinator we would've trashed Cohen & Beamer. Especially after the Moorhead failure.

Do you apply the same to the supposed Joe Judge hire we were about to make? To me, that would have been way more suspect.

basedog
12-30-2021, 04:36 PM
Croom was OC for the lions for 4 years. Now if you're talking about college he wasn't but he was an nfl oc for 4 years

Thanks for the correction. Regardless, Beamer's team improved weekly. Seems to be a good guy

Commercecomet24
12-30-2021, 04:39 PM
Thanks for the correction. Regardless, Beamer's team improved weekly. Seems to be a good guy

Yeah I think Shane's a good coach and good guy.

Dak Holliday
12-30-2021, 04:48 PM
They definitely ended on a high note. Bowl win over another Carolina team.

PikeDawg15
12-30-2021, 04:58 PM
I just want Beamer to beat dabo? ass 1 time?

HoopsDawg
12-30-2021, 05:03 PM
I'm definitely not a Leach apologizer but if we would've hired a guy who's never been a coordinator we would've trashed Cohen & Beamer. Especially after the Moorhead failure.

A lot of our fans loved the Moorehead hire. I don't care what our fans think. Hire the right guy for MSU. I hope our next coach is at least capable of having his QB take a snap under center.

Dak Holliday
12-30-2021, 05:25 PM
We need to hire the Purdue coach then. Takes snaps under center, uses TEs and FBs, runs several formations including the I.

Ifyouonlyknew
12-30-2021, 05:34 PM
Us too.

I'd take that bet.

Ifyouonlyknew
12-30-2021, 05:34 PM
Do you apply the same to the supposed Joe Judge hire we were about to make? To me, that would have been way more suspect.

I thought it was terrible. I was so glad when the Giants came in.

Ifyouonlyknew
12-30-2021, 05:36 PM
A lot of our fans loved the Moorehead hire. I don't care what our fans think. Hire the right guy for MSU. I hope our next coach is at least capable of having his QB take a snap under center.

Idc what our fans think either. Just saying it's a lot of revisionist history in this thread based off the last 48hrs.

Ifyouonlyknew
12-30-2021, 05:38 PM
I like the Air Raid I just like the modernized version. The 1 with tempo, RPO concepts, & more aggressive & diverse run game. If Leach would just modernize his version we'd be cooking with grease.

HoopsDawg
12-30-2021, 05:39 PM
I like the Air Raid I just like the modernized version. The 1 with tempo, RPO concepts, & more aggressive & diverse run game. If Leach would just modernize his version we'd be cooking with grease.

Amen to that.

Jacknut
12-30-2021, 05:41 PM
They haven't been to a bowl game since 2018. Of course they're glad to be there. They also went 6-6 with a new coach so optimism is high. For us the bowl game was ho-hum because we finished with a whimper and lost a couple of headscratchers. Felt like a consolation prize.

Grass is always greener though. Fire and fun!

Bothrops
12-30-2021, 05:48 PM
I'm definitely not a Leach apologizer but if we would've hired a guy who's never been a coordinator we would've trashed Cohen & Beamer. Especially after the Moorhead failure.

This

Commercecomet24
12-30-2021, 05:52 PM
I like the Air Raid I just like the modernized version. The 1 with tempo, RPO concepts, & more aggressive & diverse run game. If Leach would just modernize his version we'd be cooking with grease.

This.

msstate7
12-30-2021, 06:01 PM
I'd take that bet.

How would you bet "lucky to get 7"? I'm basically saying I don't see anymore than that, and 7 isn't a given

msstate7
12-30-2021, 06:03 PM
I like the Air Raid I just like the modernized version. The 1 with tempo, RPO concepts, & more aggressive & diverse run game. If Leach would just modernize his version we'd be cooking with grease.

Yeah, but he isn't. I wish howland would play some zone a few possessions a game too, but that isn't happening either

Ifyouonlyknew
12-30-2021, 07:02 PM
How would you bet "lucky to get 7"? I'm basically saying I don't see anymore than that, and 7 isn't a given

You're saying 7 isn't a given. Im saying 7 is a given & would be a disappointment.

Ifyouonlyknew
12-30-2021, 07:03 PM
Yeah, but he isn't. I wish howland would play some zone a few possessions a game too, but that isn't happening either

Howland has coached at 4 different schools & changed his style some at each school. So he has done something's different.

msstate7
12-30-2021, 07:35 PM
You're saying 7 isn't a given. Im saying 7 is a given & would be a disappointment.

Memphis, Arizona, BG, ETSU - definite Wins

At lsu, aTm, ark, at kY, at bama, Georgia, auburn, at OM.

Gotta win 3 of those for 7 and 4 for 8.

I hope you're right.

Commercecomet24
12-30-2021, 07:38 PM
You're saying 7 isn't a given. Im saying 7 is a given & would be a disappointment.

I'm rolling with you on this. I thought we'd go 6-6 and win our bowl, so I expected 7-6 this year. I'm gonna say 8-4 regular season next year.