What?s the difference?

[Dak Holliday]

I?m seeing lots on here claim that if you aren?t top 4 that you might as well get ready for opt outs, but I?m hearing that OM doesn?t have any and that includes a top draft pick at QB. I don?t know how in the world they are doing it, but it?s getting harder for me to stomach our guys sitting when OM has some how created a situation where their top guys plan on playing while spouting family/loyalty/etc. It wasn?t long ago that we had the better culture, but recently I find myself wondering if this is still true. We have become the selfish team. The look at me team. The stat team. All the things that we always condemned them for. Is this all due to JoMo? Did he get us this far into the woods or did he get us off path and then we were Shanghaied by a pirate?

[Captain Falcon]

It?s pretty simple, Ole Miss views the Sugar Bowl as a special honor for their program. It?s similar to Utah and the Rose Bowl, doesn?t happen very often at all. The flip side of that is Ohio State, who views the Rose Bowl as a consolation prize and are disappointed to have missed the Playoff, and this thus they are experiencing opt outs.

[msstate7]

Did OM have opt outs last season?

[Captain Falcon]

Did OM have opt outs last season?

Yes. Moore and Yeboah.

[Commercecomet24]

May not have opt outs but they got a lot entering the portal.

[Commercecomet24]

Yet we have guys willing to play shorthanded this year and last year. That's not the sign of a selfish team or program. And we could've wussed out yesterday and not played because of "covid" like so many others have done.

[Dak Holliday]

Yet we have guys willing to play shorthanded this year and last year. That's not the sign of a selfish team or program. And we could've wussed out yesterday and not played because of "covid" like so many others have done.

I don?t disagree on most of that, but it?s definitely disheartening to watch their big guys step it up. While many can point to how big a Sugar Bowl appearance is in the SEC and to OM, how did they get their top guys to care while many of ours couldn?t seem to care less? For whatever character flaws folks on here seem to know about Corral, the guy is a gamer, passionate, and a leader. The more I see of him, the more I wish he had played for us.

[Pancho]

I don?t disagree on most of that, but it?s definitely disheartening to watch their big guys step it up. While many can point to how big a Sugar Bowl appearance is in the SEC and to OM, how did they get their top guys to care while many of ours couldn?t seem to care less? For whatever character flaws folks on here seem to know about Corral, the guy is a gamer, passionate, and a leader. The more I see of him, the more I wish he had played for us.

Starkville lacks enough cougars to maintain Corral.

[Commercecomet24]

I don?t disagree on most of that, but it?s definitely disheartening to watch their big guys step it up. While many can point to how big a Sugar Bowl appearance is in the SEC and to OM, how did they get their top guys to care while many of ours couldn?t seem to care less? For whatever character flaws folks on here seem to know about Corral, the guy is a gamer, passionate, and a leader. The more I see of him, the more I wish he had played for us.

I agree he's a great football player. I happen to know coaches on the Long Beach Poly staff and know his history and I wouldn't want to be around him at all. I guess it's how far you want to go to just win football games. Just ask Urban Meyer.

[Cooterpoot]

Because it's their family culture. Has to be, I heard Kiffin say so on the news. Thanks for playing the game. Some things are becoming far too obvious.

[Pancho]

I agree he's a great football player. I happen to know coaches on the Long Beach Poly staff and know his history and I wouldn't want to be around him at all. I guess it's how far you want to go to just win football games. Just ask Urban Meyer.

He'd make Chad Kelly appear to be an altar boy

[Commercecomet24]

He'd make Chad Kelly appear to be an altar boy

This and it's not even close.

[Dak Holliday]

😂 we use family more than they do. You can act like this is an indication that I?m secretly a rebel bear shark, but pointing out an obvious trend doesn?t make one a traitor just because it shines us in a negative light, nor is it treasonous to wish we had a player of theirs, twat fart. I?m just tired of us always having an excuse. We are the same level as OM. We should be ahead of them, but excuses have allowed for us not to hold ourselves accountable on recent short comings. I prefer to hold MSU to a higher standard.

[Dak Holliday]

This and it's not even close.

I keep hearing this, but no one has anything to substantiate it. Kelly made the news with his stupidity. It?s easy to prove.

[Commercecomet24]

I keep hearing this, but no one has anything to substantiate it. Kelly made the news with his stupidity. It?s easy to prove.

Yeah because nothing ever gets covered up for star players**** Lawrence Phillips, Aaron Hernandez, and hundreds of others. I wouldn't know anything about him accept for the fact I know people that coached him in high school. Sorry.

[Dak Holliday]

Yeah because nothing ever gets covered up for star players**** Lawrence Phillips, Aaron Hernandez, and hundreds of others. I wouldn't know anything about him accept for the fact I know people that coached him in high school. Sorry.

I?m not saying that you are a liar, but in a world where social media tells all secrets, a name garnering the attention his has would be getting thoroughly dissected. They went back to jr high to get stuff on Drew Lock. How is there nothing remotely as bad as some claim showing up?

[Pancho]

You have no knowledge of how many different california high school he played at or the reasons why he was run off? How bout why Mullen dropped him at Florida?

[Commercecomet24]

I?m not saying that you are a liar, but in a world where social media tells all secrets, a name garnering the attention his has would be getting thoroughly dissected. They went back to jr high to get stuff on Drew Lock. How is there nothing remotely as bad as some claim showing up?

Why do you think nobody else in the country would take a 5 star qb but om? Because other schools did their digging and found out, om just looked the other way because thats who they are. Sorry but I know the mans true character and I would choose not to have him on my team as well, super star or not.

[Dak Holliday]

I don?t know any of that, and it doesn?t come up when one googles him. All I know is that he was a 4 or 5 star Prospect that has played well for OM, not gotten in trouble while there, and led them to a 10 win regular season/Sugar Bowl.

[Commercecomet24]

I don?t know any of that, and it doesn?t come up when one googles him. All I know is that he was a 4 or 5 star Prospect that has played well for OM, not gotten in trouble while there, and led them to a 10 win regular season/Sugar Bowl.

Well some of us do know. Good for him and om, they're a perfect match for each other.

[Todd4State]

Why do you think nobody else in the country would take a 5 star qb but om? Because other schools did their digging and found out, om just looked the other way because thats who they are. Sorry but I know the mans true character and I would choose not to have him on my team as well, super star or not.

What blows my mind is how often those players work out for them.

I guess some guess thrive when rules don't apply to them.

[Dak Holliday]

See, this is what I?m talking about. The rules don?t apply. How so? This is a team 2 years off of probation and they already have been to better bowls than us both years. Have beaten us both years.

[Pancho]

be safe or somebody be a calling u a troll

[Dak Holliday]

be safe or somebody be a calling u a troll

😂 unfortunately, I get that a fair amount from certain people on here anyway. I am just frustrated. I?m tired of the excuses. When I look at our team, I see potential to be more. To do more. I will agree that we need to spend more, and that?s one of my biggest issues with JC. I can take that we aren?t Bama, but we shouldn?t be behind OM.

[Dak Holliday]

Be honest. Watching the past 4 seasons, is MSU football a product that you would consume regularly if you weren?t born a bulldog fan?

[Pancho]

Just imagine if state had actually won the memphis and Arky games which would have earned an even better bowl game with 9 wins and then get shellacked even worse by an actual good opponent.

[Dak Holliday]

9 win seasons are good however you get them. Maybe folks are right, maybe in a better bowl, we care more, but last night was tough. TT played inspired, and Cumbie seemed to know every play before we snapped the ball. I think we?d have had a better chance vs a better team without having one of Leach?s QBs calling the plays.

[Dak Holliday]

Sorry I?m so active. Killing time sitting in Washington Reagan waiting to come home.

[Commercecomet24]

Sorry I?m so active. Killing time sitting in Washington Reagan waiting to come home.

Geez man be safe. You'll be flying through some rough weather.

[Dak Holliday]

Geez man be safe. You'll be flying through some rough weather.

It?s drizzling here now. My flight is at 9. I?ve been watching the news on here, though. We have some pretty good weathermen on this thread. I watched the first half of the game in a Long Island bar last night, quietly losing my mind in the midst of folks that didn?t give 2 rips about the game. Not watching because of kid?s sports can be good for me.

[Dak Holliday]

I do appreciate the well wishes in travel. I didn?t meant to cast doubt on the validity of what you said about Corral, it?s just that he has been very impressive the past 2 years and I sometimes wish Will had that same type fire. I do love that Will seems to be great kid by all accounts.

[Dak Holliday]

So, I guess this conversation has met it?s end. On a side note, I bet I?ve counted like 50-60 dogs in the airport today. Watch one lady let hers pee right in the middle of the floor.

[Pancho]

saw a dog with a mask in minneapolis coming back from Omaha in June but he didn't pee when I was watching.

[Dak Holliday]

saw a dog with a mask in minneapolis coming back from Omaha in June but he didn't pee when I was watching.

😂 I?ve not seen a dog in a mask, but I have seen a lady in a dawg face mask and a pet bathroom

[Gutter Cobreh]

Because it's their family culture. Has to be, I heard Kiffin say so on the news. Thanks for playing the game. Some things are becoming far too obvious.

And yet we wonder why the board has regressed...

[Commercecomet24]

I do appreciate the well wishes in travel. I didn?t meant to cast doubt on the validity of what you said about Corral, it?s just that he has been very impressive the past 2 years and I sometimes wish Will had that same type fire. I do love that Will seems to be great kid by all accounts.

You're welcome, be safe. No problem, we don't have to agree on everything, it's all good with me. It's why I love this board is the differing opinions. Keeps it interesting.

[Dak Holliday]

Agree

[StateDawg44]

I?m not saying that you are a liar, but in a world where social media tells all secrets, a name garnering the attention his has would be getting thoroughly dissected. They went back to jr high to get stuff on Drew Lock. How is there nothing remotely as bad as some claim showing up?

Social media tells all secrets? How foolish to believe something like that.

[Dak Holliday]

Social media tells all secrets? How foolish to believe something like that.

In a world where everyone has the desire to be heard and a world wide platform on which to speak from, how foolish to believe that anything that anyone thinks has the possibility to go viral won?t. Ask Dak and Jeff Simmons.