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msstate7
12-22-2021, 09:24 AM
Net - 38th
Rpi - 43rd
Kenpom - 40th

We're in good shape to make the tourney

chef dixon
12-22-2021, 09:40 AM
The issue is the committee likes to use lack of good nonconference wins against teams on the bubble. Going to need to get some big wins in conference to make it.

confucius say
12-22-2021, 09:44 AM
Agree on being in good shape.
11-7 in sec play should do it. Maybe 10-8 if we beat Texas Tech.

THE Bruce Dickinson
12-22-2021, 09:46 AM
Net - 38th
Rpi - 43rd
Kenpom - 40th

We're in good shape to make the tourney

A win in our home SEC opener against Arkansas would go a long way. We need fans to show up to that game.

MoreCowbell
12-22-2021, 11:12 AM
I’m seeing 64th in RPI

msstate7
12-22-2021, 11:18 AM
I’m seeing 64th in RPI

http://www.realtimerpi.com/college_Men_basketball_rpi.html

sleepy dawg
12-22-2021, 11:41 AM
I?m seeing 64th in RPI

For some reason sites will have small discrepancies, not sure why. I've seen 64, 65, and 43. I could be wrong, but I think RPI is either not used at all, or very minimally at this point. It is a very weak metric compared to so many others.

HoopsDawg
12-22-2021, 11:46 AM
Howland needs to learn from his mistake vs Louisville. We were undefeated and rolling. It was Tolu's first game back and he immediately put him in the starting lineup. This time, when Tolu is ready, bring him off the bench for a few games.

sleepy dawg
12-22-2021, 11:48 AM
https://masseyratings.com/cb/compare.htm

Massey has a composite ranking which currently has 40 different rankings compiled. In that, we are 42.

Braketology has us as the 1st team out. All the rankings seem to be pretty consistent that we would be squarely in the bubble discussion right now, but probably closer to out than in. We'll need to improve in SEC play to get in. And if we want a good seed (6 or better), we're going to have to dominate which seems pretty unlikely at this point but still doable if we flip a switch right now.

msstate7
12-22-2021, 12:04 PM
https://masseyratings.com/cb/compare.htm

Massey has a composite ranking which currently has 40 different rankings compiled. In that, we are 42.

Braketology has us as the 1st team out. All the rankings seem to be pretty consistent that we would be squarely in the bubble discussion right now, but probably closer to out than in. We'll need to improve in SEC play to get in. And if we want a good seed (6 or better), we're going to have to dominate which seems pretty unlikely at this point but still doable if we flip a switch right now.

Had there been a lunardi update since 12/17? We've won 2 games and jumped 10 spots in net since then

msstate7
12-22-2021, 12:05 PM
Howland needs to learn from his mistake vs Louisville. We were undefeated and rolling. It was Tolu's first game back and he immediately put him in the starting lineup. This time, when Tolu is ready, bring him off the bench for a few games.

I agree.

sleepy dawg
12-22-2021, 12:12 PM
Had there been a lunardi update since 12/17? We've won 2 games and jumped 10 spots in net since then

No there hasn't been. I didn't know we'd jumped 10 spots since then. Must've had some help above us b/c I'm pretty sure wins agains Winthrop and Furman aren't moving that needle much.

PGHBulldogBG
12-22-2021, 12:18 PM
We will make the tourney as long as we win 10 SEC games.

We need to beat Mizzou SC twice and Ole Miss twice Vandy, UGA

Win two of the Auburn/Arkansas/Tennessee/@TAMU group. Do that and we make the tournament.

Bama either time, @UK, @LSU @UF @TTU @Ark is probably not happening. We really need to not have dumb losses though to anyone in that first group

DeltaSwamp
12-22-2021, 12:35 PM
This is a tourney team. Book it

MoreCowbell
12-22-2021, 03:49 PM
http://www.realtimerpi.com/college_Men_basketball_rpi.html

Gotcha, Warren Nolan has us at 64 that’s what I usually go by

msstate7
12-22-2021, 04:13 PM
Gotcha, Warren Nolan has us at 64 that’s what I usually go by

Probably a better site than mine. Regardless, NET is the one we need to look at anyway

DawgFromOxford
12-22-2021, 05:43 PM
The issue is the committee likes to use lack of good nonconference wins against teams on the bubble. Going to need to get some big wins in conference to make it.

We'll pick up 1 or 2 nice wins that boost us up and drop 1 or 2 head scratchers that puts us on the edge of being in or out. It's classic Howland at this point. Rinse, wash, repeat.

msstate7
12-22-2021, 05:50 PM
Minnesota down 1 at the half to Green Bay. We really need them to win this game esp considering they play Alcon st next. Would be a good thing for us if they straight up canceled Alcorn st game

RougeDawg
12-22-2021, 08:12 PM
Minnesota down 1 at the half to Green Bay. We really need them to win this game esp considering they play Alcon st next. Would be a good thing for us if they straight up canceled Alcorn st game

Well Minn won by 16. Must?ve been in the Howland half court in the first half.

Coach34
12-22-2021, 09:25 PM
We have played the entire pre-conference without one of the best players on our team. This team will gel more the more they play together. Their best basketball is ahead. Lots to be excited about

klong-dog
12-22-2021, 10:45 PM
At Florida is winnable

662dawg
12-22-2021, 10:51 PM
We?re going 12-6 in league play 😎

WSOPdawg
12-22-2021, 10:57 PM
We will make the tourney as long as we win 10 SEC games.

We need to beat Mizzou SC twice and Ole Miss twice Vandy, UGA

Win two of the Auburn/Arkansas/Tennessee/@TAMU group. Do that and we make the tournament.

Bama either time, @UK, @LSU @UF @TTU @Ark is probably not happening. We really need to not have dumb losses though to anyone in that first group

Man, that's asking a lot right there, which I'm pretty sure we have NEVER learned how not to play down to our level of competition under Howland.