WBB loses to Troy

[Quaoarsking]

Bad loss, probably the worst since the pre-Vic days.

Last year, our worst loss was LSU, who had a NET of 66. I doubt Troy ends up in the top 100, but they might land in the top 200.

It doesn't totally kill our chances of making the Tournament yet, but it's going to take a strong run in the SEC.

[Homedawg]

This team isn't making the tournament. That ended any shot when Jessica Carter punched that person....

[Cooterpoot]

This team isn't making the tournament. That ended any shot when Jessica Carter punched that person....

You do know she's out because of mental illness issues right?

[OLJWales]

You do know she's out because of mental illness issues right?

Thanks. Beat me to it but he prolly didn't know.

[Homedawg]

You do know she's out because of mental illness issues right?
I heard that. I also know she punched someone in July and wasn't going to play.... so there's that... I'm not saying she doesn't have mental illness. What I AM saying is she punched the shit out of someone and was never playing this year.

[Saltydog]

Meh, honestly at this point the life has been sucked outta the fan base regarding WBB.......NMP sucked the life outta this program and interest dropped quicker than Bill Clinton's pants in an Arkansas trailer park......

[maroonmania]

This team isn't making the tournament. That ended any shot when Jessica Carter punched that person....

Agree, I wouldn't stress out over the loss relative to the NCAA tourney because this team isn't making the NCAA tourney anyway.

[Leeshouldveflanked]

Our WBB program ended March 2020.

[PendingTransaction]

This team needs a coach.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I genuinely feel bad for the interim. He seems like a good guy and would probably grow into a good coach but was put into an almost unwinnable situation from the jump.

[Coach34]

Well- when an asst coach sleeps with a player- it tends to kill your program. Then we made a bad hire. It is what it is.

[Irondawg]

Wait, what? There?s some big time rumor mill I?ve not heard before. On Vic?s staff?

But yeah this year was gonna be rough even with Carter and then tonight you didn?t have the food Hayes sister and sounded like we stole Howland?s playbook and just chunked up 3s.

Amazing how quick we went from a top 3 sec program to the bottom though.

[basedog]

Well- when an asst coach sleeps with a player- it tends to kill your program. Then we made a bad hire. It is what it is.

It put Vic in a bad situation, one that he didn't want to make but has turned out ok for he and family I suppose.

[Leeshouldveflanked]

Well- when an asst coach sleeps with a player- it tends to kill your program.
It is probably not that uncommon in womens sports.

[Dawg2003]

It is probably not that uncommon in womens sports.

It's why LSU women's basketball program went downhill in the 2000s. Except it was the head coach.

[Quaoarsking]

Well- when an asst coach sleeps with a player- it tends to kill your program. Then we made a bad hire. It is what it is.

Assistant coaches in 2020:

Johnnie Harris - now head coach at Auburn
Dionnah Jackson-Durrett - on Vic's staff at Texas
Elena Lovato - not sure where she is now, but Vic took her with him to Texas for last season

If your story were true, it would be a career ender, but none of our assistant coaches from that year had their careers ended?

[basedog]

Assistant coaches in 2020:

Johnnie Harris - now head coach at Auburn
Dionnah Jackson-Durrett - on Vic's staff at Texas
Elena Lovato - not sure where she is now, but Vic took her with him to Texas for last season

If your story were true, it would be a career ender, but none of our assistant coaches from that year had their careers ended?

Family matters.

[Ari Gold]

Assistant coaches in 2020:

Johnnie Harris - now head coach at Auburn
Dionnah Jackson-Durrett - on Vic's staff at Texas
Elena Lovato - not sure where she is now, but Vic took her with him to Texas for last season

If your story were true, it would be a career ender, but none of our assistant coaches from that year had their careers ended?

In C34 defense Vic had more than just those 3 coaches on staff...
it’s ok the local Starkville WBK faithful can now go to volleyball games or just complain about the men’s program

[Coach34]

Family matters.

Yep

[Quaoarsking]

Family matters.Yep

I think I pick up on what you're implying, but I don't think I'm buying it in the 2020s.

Not that it wouldn't be a believable thing to happen, given the age difference and recently changed circumstances, just that it would go without consequence.

Remember how the shit hit the fan in the pre-#MeToo era for Pat Summit's son, and to this day he still can't have any involvement with basketball.

[BrunswickDawg]

I think I pick up on what you're implying, but I don't think I'm buying it in the 2020s.

Not that it wouldn't be a believable thing to happen, given the age difference and recently changed circumstances, just that it would go without consequence.

Remember how the shit hit the fan in the pre-#MeToo era for Pat Summit's son, and to this day he still can't have any involvement with basketball.

Well, if it never comes out publicly it's a lot easier to sweep under the rug and not impact careers. It still happens, and when caught coaches move on to keep consequences at a minimum.

[Coach34]

I think I pick up on what you're implying, but I don't think I'm buying it in the 2020s.

Not that it wouldn't be a believable thing to happen, given the age difference and recently changed circumstances, just that it would go without consequence.

Remember how the shit hit the fan in the pre-#MeToo era for Pat Summit's son, and to this day he still can't have any involvement with basketball.

Age difference? Was only a year or two age difference

[klong-dog]

I didn't know she was a carpet muncher.

[Quaoarsking]

Age difference? Was only a year or two age difference

That's why I said it was more believable. What I don't find believable is how there were no consequences.

[basedog]

Age difference? Was only a year or two age difference

Only other time that things were kept lip tight was back in the Bob Tyler era with flush fund.

[BrunswickDawg]

That's why I said it was more believable. What I don't find believable is how there were no consequences.

The consequences were that people had to leave town. Now, they may have also benefited from that - but that's how coaching goes.

As we can see that most people haven't been able to put two and two together and figure out what happened shows how things work in the coaching world when you get ahead of potential scandals.

[Coach34]

What I don't find believable is how there were no consequences.

There were consequences. Vic was told to replace the person or leave town. Vic left town.

[Fader21]

Did both parties leave town? One to Texas one to Maryland?

[Coach34]

Man I love the bread at Outback Steakhouse

[BrunswickDawg]

Man I love the bread at Outback Steakhouse

Tie me down, kangaroo

[Quaoarsking]

Well this thread took a salacious turn.

If true, I think Cohen is exonerated for "losing Vic," so there's that.

[klong-dog]

I had no idea - - was part of the Land down under.

[bobcat91]

The Troy loss says hold my beer. We trail Jackson State at halftime

[basedog]

The Troy loss says hold my beer. We trail Jackson State at halftime

Hard ro watch! Btw it looks like a better crowd than the last mens game played.

[EdwardDrayton]

The state of the union so to speak is we?re coming off a loss to Troy and now are in a dogfight with Jackson State.

Texas on the other hand is #11.

How much responsibility does our AD bear for this incredible regression? Seems to beg the question and I?m a Cohen supporter.

[RocketDawg]

How's the Jackson State game going?

[NCMSTFAN]

Wow! I didn't expect this when I came to this thread. But yes we did beat Jackson State

[EdwardDrayton]

And shame on folks for posting implications and innuendo.

[Cooterpoot]

And shame on folks for posting implications and innuendo.

That a way to give them a good tongue lashing.

[maroonmania]

And shame on folks for posting implications and innuendo.

If it's something that cost us the best coach we've ever had on campus (though Lemonis may be ready to take that title), then the fans deserve to know.

[Quaoarsking]

How much responsibility does our AD bear for this incredible regression? Seems to beg the question and I?m a Cohen supporter.

IF the story posted here is true (which I'm still pretty skeptical of), his hands were tied and he had no choice. No AD in America would allow coaches to have relationships with players and keep their jobs. In fact, Cohen was extremely gracious for not revealing this information publicly.

[Activated Alpha]

That a way to give them a good tongue lashing.

Reading these comments, someone on our team received a mighty good tongue lashing...

[BayouDawg]

Reading these comments, someone on our team received a mighty good tongue lashing...

I laughed way too hard at this

[maroonmania]

IF the story posted here is true (which I'm still pretty skeptical of), his hands were tied and he had no choice. No AD in America would allow coaches to have relationships with players and keep their jobs. In fact, Cohen was extremely gracious for not revealing this information publicly.

You can be skeptical but some type of issue/scandal close to Schaefer or his family has been implied by multiple posters since the day we found out he was leaving for Texas. Nothing new with this other than some folks seemingly willing to give away more detail than in the past.

[EdwardDrayton]

IF the story posted here is true (which I'm still pretty skeptical of), his hands were tied and he had no choice. No AD in America would allow coaches to have relationships with players and keep their jobs. In fact, Cohen was extremely gracious for not revealing this information publicly.

With all respect, just not going to perpetuate the conversation with a context of hypothetical happenings and innuendo.

[Coach34]

With all respect, just not going to perpetuate the conversation with a context of hypothetical happenings and innuendo.

I bet you think Richard Williams just decided to retire also huh? I mean- there wasn’t a Clarion-Ledger story about anything else. Just hypothetical happenings and innuendo. Wimp Sanderson also

[BrunswickDawg]

I bet you think Richard Williams just decided to retire also huh? I mean- there wasn’t a Clarion-Ledger story about anything else. Just hypothetical happenings and innuendo. Wimp Sanderson also

The unbeaten, untied, undisputed champion of the world seems to have its way with MSU coaches of all kinds.

[EdwardDrayton]

I bet you think Richard Williams just decided to retire also huh? I mean- there wasn?t a Clarion-Ledger story about anything else. Just hypothetical happenings and innuendo. Wimp Sanderson also

Well, again, with all respect Coach, those historical events are equally irrelevant to the current state of our women?s basketball program.

[ImissCityBagel]

WTF did the offer Vic to take him away? I'm sure we emptied the bank on him.

[klong-dog]

What's the point of keeping it tight lipped now? Lol. He's not coming back

[captaindog]

There were consequences. Vic was told to replace the person or leave town. Vic left town.

Wait a second. It has been pretty widely reported he was offered basically a match of the amount offered by Texas to stay. Is that incorrect or are you saying he was told he could get more money but he had to get rid of his assistant?

[Cooterpoot]

Well, again, with all respect Coach, those historical events are equally irrelevant to the current state of our women?s basketball program.

Our team has obviously gone down

[Coach34]

Wait a second. It has been pretty widely reported he was offered basically a match of the amount offered by Texas to stay. Is that incorrect or are you saying he was told he could get more money but he had to get rid of his assistant?

I’m saying that I was told all that was bunk and Vic was told to make a change or find another job. He chose to find another job.

If you want to cover up a possible scandle- saying he’s going home and we tried our best to keep him is an easy to do it. Outback didn’t transfer to Texas did she?

[Fader21]

I guess people's favorite song is down under- men at work. But not necessarily men

[Cooterpoot]

I guess people's favorite song is down under- men at work. But not necessarily men

It's bad when a coach gets called out on the carpet.

[basedog]

In today's world, you have to be cautions posting things you know or hear. The story behind Vic's departure is touchy, when family comes first you do whatever you can to protect and defend all.
I'm sure his departure wasn't easy for all involved, which was family and Msu.

[Fader21]

It's bad when a coach gets called out on the carpet.

But she likes to be on the hardwood court.

[Dak Holliday]

Good gracious. I may have to start reading all the threads. I?d never have looked at this one if it hadn?t kept popping up at the top. I guess one never knows what a dawg might drag up.

[Captain Falcon]

I?m saying that I was told all that was bunk and Vic was told to make a change or find another job. He chose to find another job.

If you are implying that we would have fired Vic if he refused to make a staff change or leave on his own then I'm not buying it. People would have demanded Cohen's head on a platter, Vic was untouchable when he was here.

I have no idea if there was any kind of scandal or not, I have heard all kind of wild rumors and theories about why Vic left. I think people have had a hard time rationalizing the move when in reality it may be pretty straight forward. Texas is simply a better job. They are a program who has had success under multiple coaches and who has a significantly higher floor as a program than we have. It took him one season to get them to the Elite 8. Meanwhile, he walked out the door and our program immediately fell off a cliff.

Now if there was some kind of scandal as well, that is another matter entirely and I have no inside knowledge on any of that. But a move from Mississippi State to Texas is one that can be pretty easily justified without a scandal.

[THE Bruce Dickinson]

In C34 defense Vic had more than just those 3 coaches on staff...
it?s ok the local Starkville WBK faithful can now go to volleyball games or just complain about the men?s program

Ari, the fine people of Starkville have ALWAYS loved women's volleyball. They just play a more fundamental game than men's volleyball and it's much more enjoyable. *

Male volleyball players just play street (volley)ball and never hustle. *

[Cooterpoot]

If you are implying that we would have fired Vic if he refused to make a staff change or leave on his own then I'm not buying it. People would have demanded Cohen's head on a platter, Vic was untouchable when he was here.

I have no idea if there was any kind of scandal or not, I have heard all kind of wild rumors and theories about why Vic left. I think people have had a hard time rationalizing the move when in reality it may be pretty straight forward. Texas is simply a better job. They are a program who has had success under multiple coaches and who has a significantly higher floor as a program than we have. It took him one season to get them to the Elite 8. Meanwhile, he walked out the door and our program immediately fell off a cliff.

Now if there was some kind of scandal as well, that is another matter entirely and I have no inside knowledge on any of that. But a move from Mississippi State to Texas is one that can be pretty easily justified without a scandal.

Play with scissors, you're going to get cut. The school had to shut that down lickity split! We handled it behind the curtains. It might seem fishy to you, but sometimes you have to lick these things before the rumors spread.

[Activated Alpha]

Play with scissors, you're going to get cut. The school had to shut that down lickity split! We handled it behind the curtains. It might seem fishy to you, but sometimes you have to lick these things before the rumors spread.

Upon further reading of this thread, I am convinced something else was spread then licked.....

[Cowbell]

Play with scissors, you're going to get cut. The school had to shut that down lickity split! We handled it behind the curtains. It might seem fishy to you, but sometimes you have to lick these things before the rumors spread.

This is high class word usage

[Pancho]

Counterpoot makin us read tween the lines.........

[TrapGame]

Counterpoot makin us read tween the lines.........

Yep, he fingered it for sure.

[MadDawg]

Play with scissors, you're going to get cut. The school had to shut that down lickity split! We handled it behind the curtains. It might seem fishy to you, but sometimes you have to lick these things before the rumors spread.

That was some cunning linguistics.

[State82]

That was some cunning linguistics.
Winner

[klong-dog]

Red on top, fire in the hole. :confused:

[Dak Holliday]

Winner
Agree

[Cooterpoot]

That was some cunning linguistics.

Doesn't take a ****ing linguist to describe the double-ended consequences of this situation. We simply nipped it in the bud to avoid having to strap up for the media pounding.

[Coach34]

Doesn't take a ****ing linguist to describe the double-ended consequences of this situation. We simply nipped it in the bud to avoid having to strap up for the media pounding.

Thats fantastic.

A combination of summing up the situation and using lingo to make people laugh. Well done Sir

[bulldawg28]

Doesn't take a ****ing linguist to describe the double-ended consequences of this situation. We simply nipped it in the bud to avoid having to strap up for the media pounding.

Lmao....you sir are a winner!