Western Ky

[basedog]

Good win, they just beat Louisville 82-72. Stan's has some talent.

[Leeshouldveflanked]

Good win, they just beat Louisville 82-72. Stan's has some talent.
Stans also has the longest NCAA tournament appearance drought in Western Kentucky History.

[msstate7]

Stans also has the longest NCAA tournament appearance drought in Western Kentucky History.

Regardless, it was a good win for him today. That center of theirs reminds me of vanardo

[Leeshouldveflanked]

Stans is a good recruiter and he can beat Ole Miss but every season when he needs to win one game he almost never wins it.

[OLJWales]

Everybody's beating Louisville yet we get blown out.

[msstate7]

Everybody's beating Louisville yet we get blown out.

Furman beat Louisville, and we beat them. Welcome to college basketball

ETA... also, Louisville played without their best player today

[tcdog70]

Furman beat Louisville, and we beat them. Welcome to college basketball

ETA... also, Louisville played without their best player today

We’ve been playing without our best player most of the year.

[msstate7]

We’ve been playing without our best player most of the year.

I love smith, but Molinar is our best player

[Leeshouldveflanked]

I love smith, but Molinar is our best player
Yep, we will go as far as Molinar will take us.

[tcdog70]

I love smith, but Molinar is our best player

If I'm choosing up and get first Pick--I'm taking Tolu. Molinar , if he is our best player, he hasn't played like it. He has had a chance to win two of the games we have lost. And he Missed a crucial free throw that gave Furman a shot to win. Your best player doesn't miss 4 shots in row at the end of a game to win. Give me Smith

[msstate7]

If I'm choosing up and get first Pick--I'm taking Tolu. Molinar , if he is our best player, he hasn't played like it. He has had a chance to win two of the games we have lost. And he Missed a crucial free throw that gave Furman a shot to win. Your best player doesn't miss 4 shots in row at the end of a game to win. Give me Smith

Molinar nailed the 3 to tie the game with Minnesota.

[RiverCityDawg]

Stans is a good recruiter and he can beat Ole Miss but every season when he needs to win one game he almost never wins it.

Sounds like Howland except for the beating ole miss part.

[Leeshouldveflanked]

Sounds like Howland except for the beating ole miss part.
Stans > Howland . Howland has multiple chances every season to just win that one game and never does.

[R2Dawg]

Stans also has the longest NCAA tournament appearance drought in Western Kentucky History.

Well he did something we couldn't do. We can't make the tourney either and he has less talent and draw than we do.

[msstate7]

Stans > Howland . Howland has multiple chances every season to just win that one game and never does.

Howland has taken 4 programs to the tourney, 5 sweet 16s at 2 different schools, and 4 final 4s, lol @ stansbury better than howland

[vv83]

Howland has taken 4 programs to the tourney, 5 sweet 16s at 2 different schools, and 4 final 4s, lol @ stansbury better than howland

Gotta realize nobody cares what Howland did outside of here. Stans when here was better than Howland when here.

[Cowbell]

Howland has taken 4 programs to the tourney, 5 sweet 16s at 2 different schools, and 4 final 4s, lol @ stansbury better than howland

Tell this to the jaguars

[msstate7]

Gotta realize nobody cares what Howland did outside of here. Stans when here was better than Howland when here.

This is a thread titled "Western KY", so it seems to reason this thread is after what stansbury is doing outside of here, right?

[HoopsDawg]

Stans > Howland . Howland has multiple chances every season to just win that one game and never does.

LOLOLOL.

[CadaverDawg]

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[Coach34]

Stands is underachieving at Western Kentucky. He currently holds their longest stretch of not making the Tourney. Enough said

[confucius say]

Howland has taken 4 programs to the tourney, 5 sweet 16s at 2 different schools, and 4 final 4s, lol @ stansbury better than howland

As a career, that's fair. No doubt.

But it's unquestionable that Stans had a better run here than Howland has had.

[confucius say]

Stands is underachieving at Western Kentucky. He currently holds their longest stretch of not making the Tourney. Enough said

This isn't true. Stans has had 4 seasons where he missed the tournament. 2017,2018,2019,2021. Don't know if he would have made it in 2020. They finished second in the league that year. CUSA tournament was cancelled.

WKU has had equally long and longer stretches of where it didn't make the tourney pre stans (88,89,90,91,92 and 96,97,98,99,00 and 04,05,06,07).

But the larger point is that Ben has not been able to equal the success Stans had here, for whatever reason. Stans went to 6 tournament in 14 seasons. Ben 1 in 5 seasons.

[msstate7]

This isn't true. Stans has had 4 seasons where he missed the tournament. 2017,2018,2019,2021. Don't know if he would have made it in 2020. They finished second in the league that year. CUSA tournament was cancelled.

WKU has had equally long and longer stretches of where it didn't make the tourney pre stans (88,89,90,91,92 and 96,97,98,99,00 and 04,05,06,07).

But the larger point is that Ben has not been able to equal the success Stans had here, for whatever reason. Stans went to 6 tournament in 14 seasons. Ben 1 in 5 seasons.

I like them both, so don't take this as bashing stansbury. He did have a much easier path back then though with the divisions. Most of our success under stansbury was in the 2000s, and the west was pretty poor then

[Barkman Turner Overdrive]

I like them both, so don't take this as bashing stansbury. He did have a much easier path back then though with the divisions. Most of our success under stansbury was in the 2000s, and the west was pretty poor then

Correct. The reason why the SEC went away from divisions in basketball was because they were tired of MSU getting a first round bye by winning the SECW and sporting an 8-8 conference record.

[Coach34]

This isn't true. Stans has had 4 seasons where he missed the tournament. 2017,2018,2019,2021. Don't know if he would have made it in 2020. They finished second in the league that year. CUSA tournament was cancelled.

WKU has had equally long and longer stretches of where it didn't make the tourney pre stans (88,89,90,91,92 and 96,97,98,99,00 and 04,05,06,07).

But the larger point is that Ben has not been able to equal the success Stans had here, for whatever reason. Stans went to 6 tournament in 14 seasons. Ben 1 in 5 seasons.

They were borderline at best in 2020. 5 seasons. Should he not make it this year- will be 6. Hasn’t happened since the Tourney expanded I don’t believe.

[BiscuitEater]

Howland has taken 4 programs to the tourney, 5 sweet 16s at 2 different schools, and 4 final 4s, lol @ stansbury better than howland

BUT, Howland has ZERO tournament wins @ MSU!

[confucius say]

I like them both, so don't take this as bashing stansbury. He did have a much easier path back then though with the divisions. Most of our success under stansbury was in the 2000s, and the west was pretty poor then

I agree it could help with win total but not really as far as making the tourney 6 out of 14 seasons. Bc the Flip side of your point is playing in the west also hurt rpi, which was the metric used to select teams for the tourney I believe. It's why we could win the west or finish second and not make the tourney.

[thf24]

I agree it could help with win total but not really as far as making the tourney 6 out of 14 seasons. Bc the Flip side of your point is playing in the west also hurt rpi, which was the metric used to select teams for the tourney I believe. It's why we could win the west or finish second and not make the tourney.

We also made the tournament finishing 3rd in the west in 04-05, though. When we finished 1st or 2nd and still missed, it was due to awful losses, not lack of good wins, especially the last few years. Not to mention it only took 8-8 or 9-7 to win the west those years we did so and missed.

When we took care of business and beat the teams we were supposed to, we made it, and Stans had an easy path in the west to do that for most of his tenure.

[BrunswickDawg]

This isn't true. Stans has had 4 seasons where he missed the tournament. 2017,2018,2019,2021. Don't know if he would have made it in 2020. They finished second in the league that year. CUSA tournament was cancelled.

WKU has had equally long and longer stretches of where it didn't make the tourney pre stans (88,89,90,91,92 and 96,97,98,99,00 and 04,05,06,07).

But the larger point is that Ben has not been able to equal the success Stans had here, for whatever reason. Stans went to 6 tournament in 14 seasons. Ben 1 in 5 seasons.

Both are right. No WKU coach since EA Diddle has made it thru their first 5 seasons without making the NCAA tournament until Stansbury. But, between coaching changes, there have been longer stretches where they haven't made the NCAA

[Quaoarsking]

It's not Stansbury's fault WKU upgraded to a much better basketball conference that is still a 1-bid league. Whether Stans makes the tournament or not likely comes down to whether they can win the conference tourney, unless they're just outstanding in the regular season.

What I'm trying to say is comparison to how often WKU made the NCAAT in the past is inherently invalid because the situations are different.

[boonedawg]

Kentucky 37, Western KY 28 at the half on ESPN.

[Leeshouldveflanked]

Halftime adjustments by Kentucky now UK 62 WKU 40

[Coach34]

95-60 final

#Pretender

[R2Dawg]

It's not Stansbury's fault WKU upgraded to a much better basketball conference that is still a 1-bid league. Whether Stans makes the tournament or not likely comes down to whether they can win the conference tourney, unless they're just outstanding in the regular season.

What I'm trying to say is comparison to how often WKU made the NCAAT in the past is inherently invalid because the situations are different.

Good point, you really have to look at context in these things. Kinda like the MSU bowl streak vs other eras. Apples and oranges.

[Coach34]

Good point, you really have to look at context in these things. Kinda like the MSU bowl streak vs other eras. Apples and oranges.

Same with Howland at State vs Stands at State.

[Dawsonmsu]

Remember this post come January 25th.

[Coach34]

Remember this post come January 25th.

Lol- I’ll take State +35

[Dawsonmsu]

Don’t be so sure of that!