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parabrave
12-17-2021, 06:49 PM
Fountain gets the start, glad for that. Are Matthews and Smith still out?

Homedawg
12-17-2021, 06:53 PM
Smith and rocket are. Not sure about Cam.

msstate7
12-17-2021, 06:54 PM
Smith and rocket are. Not sure about Cam.

What's wrong with rocket?

parabrave
12-17-2021, 06:58 PM
And hopefully the Radio problems are fixed. Either Rocker or Tolu has a Toe issue.

msstate7
12-17-2021, 07:00 PM
And hopefully the Radio problems are fixed. Either Rocker or Tolu has a Toe issue.

I'm beginning to think these 2 are gonna be out all year or less than 100%

msstate7
12-17-2021, 07:00 PM
Nevertheless, big opportunity for fountain

OLJWales
12-17-2021, 07:07 PM
I'm beginning to think these 2 are gonna be out all year or less than 100%

I'm over this injury shit. Howland preached nutrition, training and conditioning when hired. WTF is going on around here?

msstate7
12-17-2021, 07:09 PM
The defense has come a long way since Minnesota (knock on wood)

confucius say
12-17-2021, 07:09 PM
It's a broken toe. Calm down

parabrave
12-17-2021, 07:10 PM
anyone tell me what is our offensive game plan? Cause Furman has one and we are just getting the ball downcourt and Jacking up 3s.

Leeshouldveflanked
12-17-2021, 07:11 PM
Gosh this is almost unwatchable both teams averaging a point a minute.

msstate7
12-17-2021, 07:12 PM
Where's the foul? Eff these refs

msstate7
12-17-2021, 07:12 PM
They not calling much of anything on us either

parabrave
12-17-2021, 07:13 PM
Where's the foul? Eff these refs

Richard said last game the refs are going to be swallowing the whistle more this year.

msstate7
12-17-2021, 07:13 PM
Great pass

msstate7
12-17-2021, 07:15 PM
We've gotten 4 great looks from 3 the last few possessions. We only hit 1. Gotta hit those

R2Dawg
12-17-2021, 07:15 PM
I generally don't like it when a 5 steps out but Brooks can shoot the 3.

msstate7
12-17-2021, 07:17 PM
I thought he went out of bounds before the pass to 3

R2Dawg
12-17-2021, 07:18 PM
Molinar just isn't playing as expected so far this season. He has to get his groove on for us to make any run.

OLJWales
12-17-2021, 07:19 PM
anyone tell me what is our offensive game plan? Cause Furman has one and we are just getting the ball downcourt and Jacking up 3s.

Howland's just finding whose jumper's hot tonight so who to sling it to when we're trapped down low.

RocketDawg
12-17-2021, 07:22 PM
Gosh this is almost unwatchable both teams averaging a point a minute.

Yeah, exactly what I was thinking. This is the first game I've watched this season, and it's boringly slow. Almost like watching a baseball game. **

msstate7
12-17-2021, 07:25 PM
Man, I don't wanna jinx it, but the defensive improvement since Minnesota is substantial

OLJWales
12-17-2021, 07:28 PM
Furman, founded in 1826 is the oldest private institution of higher learning in South Carolina fort those unknowing and - or give a damn.

msstate7
12-17-2021, 07:31 PM
What a great drive and shot by Moore

msstate7
12-17-2021, 07:33 PM
Matthews out there, yay. I really like this guy

RocketDawg
12-17-2021, 07:39 PM
Furman, founded in 1826 is the oldest private institution of higher learning in South Carolina fort those unknowing and - or give a damn.

Aren't they historically pretty good in basketball?

OLJWales
12-17-2021, 07:45 PM
Aren't they historically pretty good in basketball?

Not sure. They beat Louisville at Lville in OT, Lost @ UNC by 13 & lost to Navy this year. Other teams on this year's scheduleI can't recognize due to ESPN abbreviations of no names.

OLJWales
12-17-2021, 07:53 PM
Up by 11 @ half. Good job thus far as these guys are no slouches. 17 around and they'll beat you. Ask Louisville.

Barkman Turner Overdrive
12-17-2021, 07:55 PM
Fountain gets the start, glad for that. Are Matthews and Smith still out?

Attendance rivals Joe Brandon?s rallies circa 14 months ago.

OLJWales
12-17-2021, 07:59 PM
Attendance rivals Joe Brandon?s rallies circa 14 months ago.

Where 25 total cars showed in a H.S. parking lot?

parabrave
12-17-2021, 08:01 PM
Ok back to basketball. One of the Furman players was an all ACC player. Don't know which one but the announcers said so/

parabrave
12-17-2021, 08:14 PM
Dam Ref that was a bad call.

msstate7
12-17-2021, 08:15 PM
Dam Ref that was a bad call.

Yeah, I'm so sick of officials looking for the offensive foul.

BeardoMSU
12-17-2021, 08:18 PM
here we go...

parabrave
12-17-2021, 08:19 PM
For Petes sake. Furman is protecting the ball better and took away our main source of points. They are hitting 3s and we can't hit the side of the board on 3s.

msstate7
12-17-2021, 08:20 PM
Time to get Molinar and brooks looks

BayouDawg
12-17-2021, 08:20 PM
Had a good defensive first half but the second half they are carving us up. Their ball movement and movement without the ball puts ours to shame

Leeshouldveflanked
12-17-2021, 08:20 PM
here we go...
Why do we do this to ourselves?

parabrave
12-17-2021, 08:21 PM
Dam

BeardoMSU
12-17-2021, 08:22 PM
Why why why do we do this shit every damn game?

parabrave
12-17-2021, 08:23 PM
A fucing 13-0 run.

BayouDawg
12-17-2021, 08:24 PM
This is horrendous

parabrave
12-17-2021, 08:24 PM
Pitiful 3 defense.

R2Dawg
12-17-2021, 08:25 PM
Yeah, I'm so sick of officials looking for the offensive foul.

They just want the spectacular call of charge regardless of correct call.

BayouDawg
12-17-2021, 08:25 PM
Defensive rotation is really bad.

parabrave
12-17-2021, 08:26 PM
Dam just foul Hunter every time he gets the ball,

NCMSTFAN
12-17-2021, 08:27 PM
At this point it's coaching... win or lose its coaching.. I know Furman beat Louisville and play UNC close but we have had big leads in alot of games this year and lost them. I rarely bash Howland but I'm really getting tired of this and it's on him

R2Dawg
12-17-2021, 08:28 PM
DJ needs less minutes. He kills the chemistry and energy on the floor when he is on there. I expected much more from him.

msstate7
12-17-2021, 08:28 PM
Every team we play has a player that Jesus blesses with the ability to shoot like Reggie miller when spike lee taunted him.

We're obviously a cursed program

msstate7
12-17-2021, 08:31 PM
Just punch that dude in the face

BayouDawg
12-17-2021, 08:35 PM
Defense has to tighten up down the stretch

RougeDawg
12-17-2021, 08:35 PM
Another 5-6+ minute stretch of zero points. Have at least one of those every damn game. Its like we only play a true 30-35 min a game when the other team plays 40. Pathetic.

BeardoMSU
12-17-2021, 08:36 PM
Just punch that dude in the face

Lol, aye.

msstate7
12-17-2021, 08:37 PM
Go at foster

parabrave
12-17-2021, 08:38 PM
But this will be a good loss for the NET***.

RougeDawg
12-17-2021, 08:39 PM
We have been in the bonus since around the 12 min mark, but refuse to drive it and get to the FT line. This has to be coaching or dumb players. Considering every group Howland has does this it all points to him.

Lord McBuckethead
12-17-2021, 08:39 PM
I have only watched the last 5 minutes of this game. We suck.

RocketDawg
12-17-2021, 08:41 PM
Man, I don't wanna jinx it, but the defensive improvement since Minnesota is substantial

Well, I think you jinxed it.

R2Dawg
12-17-2021, 08:42 PM
Got to make FT

Lord McBuckethead
12-17-2021, 08:43 PM
Way to miss the front end of the 1 and 1. Basically a turnover. Doesn?t matter cause we were in the half court.

BeardoMSU
12-17-2021, 08:43 PM
The most talented team since Stan's last year....

parabrave
12-17-2021, 08:43 PM
Bout time we drove it in.

R2Dawg
12-17-2021, 08:43 PM
I have only watched the last 5 minutes of this game. We suck.

We didn't suck the first half but have the 2nd.

msstate7
12-17-2021, 08:44 PM
Foster and bothwell both with 4 fouls. Get them out

RougeDawg
12-17-2021, 08:45 PM
Every time we have this announcer, I cannot help but think about Eduardo Perez doing college baseball. This guy obviously isn't full of himself like Eddie.

BeardoMSU
12-17-2021, 08:45 PM
My god, Iverson...

msstate7
12-17-2021, 08:46 PM
Lol, f this team

R2Dawg
12-17-2021, 08:46 PM
Open dunk and Molinar fumbles it. We are cursed.

msstate7
12-17-2021, 08:47 PM
My god, Iverson...

Tried to be a BA

R2Dawg
12-17-2021, 08:48 PM
We need some 3 pt shooters.

msstate7
12-17-2021, 08:48 PM
we have balls half way down that just spin out.

RougeDawg
12-17-2021, 08:49 PM
Still no urgency to get the ball up the court. Wasting critical time. Until we start shooting like Furman, we cannot be slow on offense.

parabrave
12-17-2021, 08:49 PM
Mol saved by the furman players lack of dribbling skills.

msstate7
12-17-2021, 08:50 PM
That's why I love matthews

R2Dawg
12-17-2021, 08:50 PM
Cam about to steal this game from Furman. That is two key steals in last 2 minutes.

BayouDawg
12-17-2021, 08:51 PM
The most talented team since Stan's last year....

I think Howlands team that got bounced in the first round by 12 seed liberty may have been more talented than this one.

R2Dawg
12-17-2021, 08:51 PM
That's why I love matthews

Agree. He has to be on the floor.

msstate7
12-17-2021, 08:51 PM
Ok, I've saw this show... furman 3 with :02 left on shot clock

BayouDawg
12-17-2021, 08:51 PM
Cam about to steal this game from Furman. That is two key steals in last 2 minutes.

Yea hes a dawg. Love his energy

msstate7
12-17-2021, 08:52 PM
Molinar, you owe us 2 points

BayouDawg
12-17-2021, 08:53 PM
Mol why would you dribble right into the corner? That was nearly a disaster

RougeDawg
12-17-2021, 08:53 PM
Where has Fountain been 2nd half? The teams plays with more energy when he's in.

BeardoMSU
12-17-2021, 08:53 PM
Assuming we make the second FT, we need to foul them before they get a shot off.

msstate7
12-17-2021, 08:54 PM
Mol why would you dribble right into the corner? That was nearly a disaster

Thought he'd get fouled. Thank God, he got it

msstate7
12-17-2021, 08:54 PM
Assuming we make the second FT, we need to foul them before they get a shot off.

Too early imo

BayouDawg
12-17-2021, 08:55 PM
Assuming we make the second FT, we need to foul them before they get a shot off.

Agree we have a foul to give. Can let them burn some clock then foul. Then could foul again

BayouDawg
12-17-2021, 08:56 PM
Mol has nearly cost us this game. Still far from over

msstate7
12-17-2021, 08:57 PM
Moore
Molinar
Jeffries
Matthews
Brooks

That's who I want playing most our mins

BayouDawg
12-17-2021, 08:57 PM
Now you foul again

RocketDawg
12-17-2021, 08:57 PM
We certainly made the game interesting ....

BeardoMSU
12-17-2021, 08:57 PM
"Assuming we make the second", lol? **** me.

And they get a wide ass open look to win it, lol.


Glad we win, but wtf were those foul attempts?!? dogshit.

msstate7
12-17-2021, 08:57 PM
Good win.

RougeDawg
12-17-2021, 08:58 PM
If Molinar can get back into form, this may be a good team.

BayouDawg
12-17-2021, 08:58 PM
Lol we cant even foul right. Thank goodness we escaped this one.

Activated Alpha
12-17-2021, 08:59 PM
Good win.

Is it? Do not feel the same way as you do

BayouDawg
12-17-2021, 08:59 PM
This group has some good individual pieces. They just arent a team yet.

NCMSTFAN
12-17-2021, 08:59 PM
Glad to win, and Furman is good but we can't keep letting big leads get away!

LC Dawg
12-17-2021, 09:00 PM
With all our high profile players and our all-sec returner I think Matthews is our MVP so far this year. We lose that game without him tonight.

Quaoarsking
12-17-2021, 09:01 PM
This may be the difference-maker on Selection Sunday. Not exaggerating or sunshine-pumping.

PGHBulldogBG
12-17-2021, 09:03 PM
I actually think this was a nice solid win. Furman will win the SoCon. Winthrop is no slouch either.

R2Dawg
12-17-2021, 09:04 PM
Moore
Molinar
Jeffries
Matthews
Brooks

That's who I want playing most our mins

Not sure about DJ. He kills us at times. I'd almost say Fountain or Garcia at this point until Tulu comes back.

R2Dawg
12-17-2021, 09:06 PM
If Molinar can get back into form, this may be a good team.

This is key. He has not been in form at all. We have the pieces but not firing on all cylinders right now.

Lord McBuckethead
12-17-2021, 09:09 PM
This group has some good individual pieces. They just arent a team yet.

No one on the court is jumping into anyone?s asses over this level of play. Who is the 17n MAN on the court. Shit happens, and then nothing from any of them.

Let?s just let them have open look after open look without anyone on our side raising a 17n eyebrow.

If I were Molinar or he?ll even Jeffries, I would be all in someone?s face if they missed a rotation. You hold everyone accountable and then make sure you are not the one making the mistake.

No one is leading on the court. If they are, they suck at it.

The only other thing to say, Howland needs to get some fire. If no one on the court is willing to do it, you have to get your old ass out there and demand execution.

NCMSTFAN
12-17-2021, 09:11 PM
8-3 sounds alot better than 7-4.... again I'm glad we won but we have the talent to beat alot of teams. We have to stop allowing teams to get back into games.

EdwardDrayton
12-17-2021, 09:11 PM
Eighteen point blown lead and we did not lose. Thank ?? the ??.. Lord.

OLJWales
12-17-2021, 09:16 PM
This may be the difference-maker on Selection Sunday. Not exaggerating or sunshine-pumping.

The frustrating thing is you speak the truth when this win pre-season meant NONE of that.

PGHBulldogBG
12-17-2021, 09:16 PM
Arkansas twice, Bama twice, LSU away, UK away, UF away, UT even at home is going to be tough, but none of those should hurt us. We just can?t mess around and lose more than 1 other game and we make the tourney at 9-9 in SEC probably as a 9 seed

OLJWales
12-17-2021, 09:25 PM
Arkansas twice, Bama twice, LSU away, UK away, UF away, UT even at home is going to be tough, but none of those should hurt us. We just can?t mess around and lose more than 1 other game and we make the tourney at 9-9 in SEC probably as a 9 seed

Our team reminds me when we made fun of Bon Jovi's "living on a prayer" with our own lyrics of "living with no pair"

msstate7
12-17-2021, 09:29 PM
8-3 sounds alot better than 7-4.... again I'm glad we won but we have the talent to beat alot of teams. We have to stop allowing teams to get back into games.

We certainly got sloppy to let them back in it, but their version of Reggie miller was unbelievable for a long stretch.

I hated we let them back in it (and up), but I absolutely love that we came back and won that thing. ESPN had Furman at 80+% win after they hit 2 of 3 FTs to go up 6 under 4 mins

RocketDawg
12-17-2021, 09:38 PM
I stayed on SECN after the basketball game, and they're replaying the Auburn game. I know we won big, but when did we make our move? We didn't look good at all in the first quarter (14-3 Auburn with 4 minutes left) either offensively or defensively.

PGHBulldogBG
12-17-2021, 09:41 PM
I stayed on SECN after the basketball game, and they're replaying the Auburn game. I know we won big, but when did we make our move? We didn't look good at all in the first quarter (14-3 Auburn with 4 minutes left) either offensively or defensively.

It wasn?t until the 2nd half. Down 28-10 at the half then the offense started rolling

Alphadog
12-17-2021, 09:42 PM
Not sure about DJ. He kills us at times. I'd almost say Fountain or Garcia at this point until Tulu comes back.

I believe DJ is the one that was guarding Reggie Miller at the end and finally slowed him down. If Howland can convince him to play defense like that every game he can help the team a lot. His length caused problems for their shooter

OLJWales
12-17-2021, 09:43 PM
I stayed on SECN after the basketball game, and they're replaying the Auburn game. I know we won big, but when did we make our move? We didn't look good at all in the first quarter (14-3 Auburn with 4 minutes left) either offensively or defensively.

WTH?

Lord McBuckethead
12-17-2021, 09:58 PM
I believe DJ is the one that was guarding Reggie Miller at the end and finally slowed him down. If Howland can convince him to play defense like that every game he can help the team a lot. His length caused problems for their shooter

Yep. Jeffries put a heat check on that guy. Who was covering him before? I guess no one.

LC Dawg
12-17-2021, 10:06 PM
I believe DJ is the one that was guarding Reggie Miller at the end and finally slowed him down. If Howland can convince him to play defense like that every game he can help the team a lot. His length caused problems for their shooter

DJ showed a little fire late in the game. That was good to see because I don't remember seeing that before tonight.

parabrave
12-17-2021, 10:12 PM
I stayed on SECN after the basketball game, and they're replaying the Auburn game. I know we won big, but when did we make our move? We didn't look good at all in the first quarter (14-3 Auburn with 4 minutes left) either offensively or defensively.

In the 1st we made our move with about 8 mins to go. We started playing defense and got 9 turnovers and scored by playing old Laker ball, In the second half we got lax they started holding on to the ball and started popping 3s. About 3 mins left Howland or someone decided to put Jeffries on Hunter and that shut him down. Play like this against the big boys and we will get our asses kicked.

Alphadog
12-17-2021, 10:12 PM
At some point one of the guys has to tell the coach let me guard that guy and he won?t score again. Not saying DJ did that but it would be cool if he did

parabrave
12-17-2021, 10:13 PM
I believe DJ is the one that was guarding Reggie Miller at the end and finally slowed him down. If Howland can convince him to play defense like that every game he can help the team a lot. His length caused problems for their shooter

Coach Williams pointed this out as soon as he started guarding Hunter.

msstate7
12-17-2021, 10:54 PM
RIchmond won at nc state tonight. I think Richmond and Furman will be good wins come tourney time

CovertDawg
12-17-2021, 11:10 PM
42% Chance of making the tournament right now. https://barttorvik.com/team.php?team=Mississippi+St.

OLJWales
12-17-2021, 11:11 PM
RIchmond won at nc state tonight. I think Richmond and Furman will be good wins come tourney time

That cant be argued. But it's still fun to bitch sometimes. Think ill pour and roll unuther. Why Not?

PGHBulldogBG
12-17-2021, 11:15 PM
RIchmond won at nc state tonight. I think Richmond and Furman will be good wins come tourney time

That is helpful along with Minnesota and Colorado state having 1 loss between the two of them. Minnesota, Furman, Richmond and Colorado state will most likely all be in the tournament. Louisville I?m not sure of but most likely 4th in ACC behind Duke UNC and Wake

Irondawg
12-18-2021, 12:57 AM
No one on the court is jumping into anyone?s asses over this level of play. Who is the 17n MAN on the court. Shit happens, and then nothing from any of them.

Let?s just let them have open look after open look without anyone on our side raising a 17n eyebrow.

If I were Molinar or he?ll even Jeffries, I would be all in someone?s face if they missed a rotation. You hold everyone accountable and then make sure you are not the one making the mistake.

No one is leading on the court. If they are, they suck at it.

The only other thing to say, Howland needs to get some fire. If no one on the court is willing to do it, you have to get your old ass out there and demand execution.

This has been a problem for a while - we haven?t had an alpha leader for a while now and it kills be that Howland won?t recruit one.

These days you have to have a guy on the court be the one that demands effort, most coaches just don?t seem to be able to do it anymore.

Lord McBuckethead
12-18-2021, 01:15 AM
Our leaders in the past
Mario Austin
Bowers
Zimmerman
Lawrence Roberts
Jamont
Rhodes
Chicken

Since then, no one. It hurt our teams the last 5 years.
We need Jeffries to be the guy. If anything, it will force him to stop being a turnover machine and force him to play relentless defense.

I really don?t care who it is. Or if it would be someone different week in and out. As long as someone starts to take ownership. Until then, we will keep losing leads, keep allowing other teams wide open looks, keep sitting on the bubble.

Lord McBuckethead
12-18-2021, 01:28 AM
Look, the issue is that I want our basketball team to get better year to year. I am not sure that we have in recent memory. Same issues year in and out. I want this team to dominate. Every week I turn it on and hope. Hope they figure it out this next week.

Cause Ark is going to beat us by 15.

Either way, #Hailstate. I am still on board, regardless. I would just be happier if they would slash to the basket once or twice a season.

msstate7
12-18-2021, 07:08 AM
Look, the issue is that I want our basketball team to get better year to year. I am not sure that we have in recent memory. Same issues year in and out. I want this team to dominate. Every week I turn it on and hope. Hope they figure it out this next week.

Cause Ark is going to beat us by 15.

Either way, #Hailstate. I am still on board, regardless. I would just be happier if they would slash to the basket once or twice a season.

I'm not predicting we beat ark Bc I have no idea, but BPI, NET, RPI, and basically every metric out there, says we're better

NCMSTFAN
12-18-2021, 10:47 AM
Our leaders in the past
Mario Austin
Bowers
Zimmerman
Lawrence Roberts
Jamont
Rhodes
Chicken

Since then, no one. It hurt our teams the last 5 years.
We need Jeffries to be the guy. If anything, it will force him to stop being a turnover machine and force him to play relentless defense.

I really don?t care who it is. Or if it would be someone different week in and out. As long as someone starts to take ownership. Until then, we will keep losing leads, keep allowing other teams wide open looks, keep sitting on the bubble.

Dee Bost also. The leader of this team has to be Iverson, no one else seems to have that quality

msstate7
12-18-2021, 11:04 AM
Dee Bost also. The leader of this team has to be Iverson, no one else seems to have that quality

Was Q not a leader?

Joebob
12-18-2021, 11:57 AM
I never considered him to be the leader type, although he was the go to guy down the stretch. He just wasn't the kind of guy that would demanded better play and accountability from his teammates.

R2Dawg
12-18-2021, 01:24 PM
Our leaders in the past
Mario Austin
Bowers
Zimmerman
Lawrence Roberts
Jamont
Rhodes
Chicken

Since then, no one. It hurt our teams the last 5 years.
We need Jeffries to be the guy. If anything, it will force him to stop being a turnover machine and force him to play relentless defense.

I really don?t care who it is. Or if it would be someone different week in and out. As long as someone starts to take ownership. Until then, we will keep losing leads, keep allowing other teams wide open looks, keep sitting on the bubble.

Agree it has been a problem on most teams. Molinar is the obvious one but he hasn't been sharp this year. Hope he gets it together. It has to be a player that handles the ball. Moore is another choice but first year players like DJ might be a push to be the leader.

BayouDawg
12-18-2021, 02:00 PM
Was Q not a leader?

He didnt really have an alpha type personality. He was so laid back

NCMSTFAN
12-18-2021, 04:00 PM
Was Q not a leader?
He led by example and on the court but Q was quiet