Rivals has us at

[Cowbell]

#14 ahead of OU, Auburn, Florida, Ole Miss, and LSU. They have 7 of our guys as 4 stars. I will take it!

[Dak Holliday]

Why is there so much disparity between the recruiting sites?

[Cowbell]

Why is there so much disparity between the recruiting sites?

$$$$

[Leeshouldveflanked]

Rivals and Scout have people that go to camps, games and watch film. ESPN is fake news when it comes to recruiting.

[TrapGame]

Rivals and Scout have people that go to camps, games and watch film. ESPN is fake news when it comes to recruiting.

Bingo. ESPN DGAF about recruiting. What they put out about recruits is bullshit.

And a lot of our guys yesterday were 1 point shy of being a 4* on 247. Rivals bumped them to 4*s. To me, as it should be.

[Cooterpoot]

ESPN props up the blue bloods and keeps schools like us down by bad mouthing us. ESPN is a big part of the perception wheel.

[Matt3467]

First time checking out Rivals this recruiting cycle and they actually had the RB from Madison a 5 star. Wow.

[OLJWales]

$$$$

I think this is correct. Subscription sales and clicks.

[OLJWales]

First time checking out Rivals this recruiting cycle and they actually had the RB from Madison a 5 star. Wow.

And his name is?

[Matt3467]

And his name is?

Brandon Robinson. He committed to Georgia. Apparently we never had a shot but doesn't look like OM has much of a better one either.

[Fader21]

And his name is?

He has to be talking about Branson Robinson.... Germantown RB

[Fader21]

Brandon Robinson. He committed to Georgia. Apparently we never had a shot but doesn't look like OM has much of a better one either.

He wouldn't have fit the Air Raid at all. He is a pound the rock RB, not sure how good he would be coming out of the backfield on passing routes.

[dawgman15]

I live in the area and went and saw Germantown play a couple of times this year. They are one of the worse coached teams in 6A. Big Zay didn't impress me and Branson seemed to have an ankle injury.

[OLJWales]

I remember a video someone posted of a coach explaining how croot ratings are total shit for the most part. He was very believable.

[FriarsPoint]

I remember a video someone posted of a coach explaining how croot ratings are total shit for the most part. He was very believable.

That was me. Former SC asst coach. My rule of thumb has always been the top 5 truly separate themselves. 6-25, put em in a bag and shake em up. Not much difference.

[yjnkdawg]

ESPN is what screws the 247 Composite rating up. ESPN is a joke. If it was just Rivals and 247 in the composite rating, it would be more realistic.

[Coach34]

That was me. Former SC asst coach. My rule of thumb has always been the top 5 truly separate themselves. 6-25, put em in a bag and shake em up. Not much difference.

Results say its basically the Top 10 and then everybody else. It's easy to judge the top talent. It's easy to judge lower end talent. It's the 60% in the middle that's really hard to judge and project development on.

[ShotgunDawg]

Results say its basically the Top 10 and then everybody else. It's easy to judge the top talent. It's easy to judge lower end talent. It's the 60% in the middle that's really hard to judge and project development on.

I don't think teams 5-10 have any chance at a natty unless they've got a top 10 pick at QB. The talent in college football is way too concentrated among 3-5 schools

[Coach34]

I don't think teams 5-10 have any chance at a natty unless they've got a top 10 pick at QB. The talent in college football is way too concentrated among 3-5 schools

Michigan's last 4 classes:
2017- 5
2018- 22
2019- 8
2020- 10

In the playoff

[ShotgunDawg]

Michigan's last 4 classes:
2017- 5
2018- 22
2019- 8
2020- 10

In the playoff

You can make the playoff but they're going to get blown out

[OLJWales]

Results say its basically the Top 10 and then everybody else. It's easy to judge the top talent. It's easy to judge lower end talent. It's the 60% in the middle that's really hard to judge and project development on.

That sounds logical and realistic.

[Coach34]

You can make the playoff but they're going to get blown out

maybe- but bottom line is that they are one of the best 5 teams in college football this season without a Top 5 average class overall. As I said- results say Top 10 recruiters make the playoff. I agree that only about 3 teams have a chance to win it all each season. I do think Michigan will play with Georgia because Georgia isn't explosive enough offensively due to their inexperience this year at WR.

[dawgday166]

You can make the playoff but they're going to get blown out

Dabo's 1st Natty:

2012 - 20
2013 - 15
2014 - 16
2015 - 9
2016 - 11

[CarolinaDawgs]

Michigan's last 4 classes:
2017- 5
2018- 22
2019- 8
2020- 10

In the playoff

Let's Dig into this. I broke down the recruiting rankings over the past 4 years for the opponents played this past season. (I used the same years as you.) Michigan's schedule and opponent rankings are below. The * is a conference opponent.

Western Michigan Washington NIU Rutgers* Wisconsin* Nebraska* Northwestern* Mich St* Indiana* Penn St* Maryland* Ohio St* Iowa*
AVG 86.25 17.5 97.5 55.75 35 20.75 52.25 36 51.25 12.75 31 5.75 39
2017-89 2017-22 2017-97 2017-42 2017-39 2017-23 2017-50 2017-36 2017-62 2017-15 2017-18 2017-2 2017-41
2018-76 2018-16 2018-93 2018-56 2018-46 2018-23 2018-58 2018-31 2018-50 2018-6 2018-28 2018-2 2018-39
2019-93 2019-16 2019-108 2019-65 2019-29 2019-17 2019-51 2019-33 2019-36 2019-15 2019-47 2019-14 2019-41
2020-87 2020-16 2020-92 2020-60 2020-26 2020-20 2020-47 2020-44 2020-57 2020-15 2020-31 2020-5 2020-35

LATech NC ST Memphis LSU* TAMU* Alabama* Vandy* Kentucky* Arkansas* Auburn* TSU Ole Piss*
AVG 84.75 38.5 67.5 7.75 10 2.25 54 31.5 31 9.75 163.75 29.75
2017-100 2017-53 2017-56 2017-7 2017-13 2017-1 2017-65 2017-30 2017-27 2017-9 2017-169 2017-31
2018-77 2018-26 2018-81 2018-15 2018-17 2018-5 2018-41 2018-37 2018-45 2018-12 2018 -156 2018-32
2019-83 2019-32 2019-68 2019-5 2019-4 2019-1 2019-58 2019-34 2019-23 2019-11 2019-185 2019-22
2020-79 2020-43 2020-65 2020-4 2020-6 2020-2 2020-52 2020-25 2020-29 2020-7 2020-145 2020-34



Michigan AVG recruiting ranking is 11.25 over that span you noted and their AVG conference opponent recruiting ranking is 33.975.


Miss St AVG recruiting ranking is 25.75 over that span you noted and our AVG conference opponent recruiting ranking is 22. (Vandy heavily skews this.. next year would be even worse with UGA thrown in there)

Do what you will with this info, but Michigan's ticket to the playoff is far and away easier to punch based on their recruiting and opponent's inability to compete with them. It's really not that impressive that the 2nd best recruiter in the conference by a mile can make it.

[ShotgunDawg]

Dabo's 1st Natty:

2012 - 20
2013 - 15
2014 - 16
2015 - 9
2016 - 11

Top of the draft QB with Watson. I stated that you could win with a transcendent QB without top 5 classes.

[CarolinaDawgs]

Let's Dig into this. I broke down the recruiting rankings over the past 4 years for the opponents played this past season. (I used the same years as you.) Michigan's schedule and opponent rankings are below. The * is a conference opponent.

Western Michigan Washington NIU Rutgers* Wisconsin* Nebraska* Northwestern* Mich St* Indiana* Penn St* Maryland* Ohio St* Iowa*
AVG 86.25 17.5 97.5 55.75 35 20.75 52.25 36 51.25 12.75 31 5.75 39
2017-89 2017-22 2017-97 2017-42 2017-39 2017-23 2017-50 2017-36 2017-62 2017-15 2017-18 2017-2 2017-41
2018-76 2018-16 2018-93 2018-56 2018-46 2018-23 2018-58 2018-31 2018-50 2018-6 2018-28 2018-2 2018-39
2019-93 2019-16 2019-108 2019-65 2019-29 2019-17 2019-51 2019-33 2019-36 2019-15 2019-47 2019-14 2019-41
2020-87 2020-16 2020-92 2020-60 2020-26 2020-20 2020-47 2020-44 2020-57 2020-15 2020-31 2020-5 2020-35

LATech NC ST Memphis LSU* TAMU* Alabama* Vandy* Kentucky* Arkansas* Auburn* TSU Ole Piss*
AVG 84.75 38.5 67.5 7.75 10 2.25 54 31.5 31 9.75 163.75 29.75
2017-100 2017-53 2017-56 2017-7 2017-13 2017-1 2017-65 2017-30 2017-27 2017-9 2017-169 2017-31
2018-77 2018-26 2018-81 2018-15 2018-17 2018-5 2018-41 2018-37 2018-45 2018-12 2018 -156 2018-32
2019-83 2019-32 2019-68 2019-5 2019-4 2019-1 2019-58 2019-34 2019-23 2019-11 2019-185 2019-22
2020-79 2020-43 2020-65 2020-4 2020-6 2020-2 2020-52 2020-25 2020-29 2020-7 2020-145 2020-34



Michigan AVG recruiting ranking is 11.25 over that span you noted and their AVG conference opponent recruiting ranking is 33.975.


Miss St AVG recruiting ranking is 25.75 over that span you noted and our AVG conference opponent recruiting ranking is 22. (Vandy heavily skews this.. next year would be even worse with UGA thrown in there)

Do what you will with this info, but Michigan's ticket to the playoff is far and away easier to punch based on their recruiting and opponent's inability to compete with them. It's really not that impressive that the 2nd best recruiter in the conference by a mile can make it.

THIS CAME OUT LOOKING SHITTTTTTTTY Sorry guys.

[Jack Lambert]

Look where Clemson is. I wonder will they ever be at the top of college football again. The NIL might be hurting them.

[dawgday166]

Top of the draft QB with Watson. I stated that you could win with a transcendent QB without top 5 classes.

No argument with that.

[StateDawg44]

Look where Clemson is. I wonder will they ever be at the top of college football again. The NIL might be hurting them.

Dabo definitely doesn't like it.

[OLJWales]

Tee Martin and Danny Weurful say Hi. (Kinda kiddin; that was ages ago)

[Bdawg]

maybe- but bottom line is that they are one of the best 5 teams in college football this season without a Top 5 average class overall. As I said- results say Top 10 recruiters make the playoff. I agree that only about 3 teams have a chance to win it all each season. I do think Michigan will play with Georgia because Georgia isn't explosive enough offensively due to their inexperience this year at WR.

May be a 28 point over/under game

[IMissJack]

Bingo. ESPN DGAF about recruiting. What they put out about recruits is bullshit.

And a lot of our guys yesterday were 1 point shy of being a 4* on 247. Rivals bumped them to 4*s. To me, as it should be.

Exactly. Something is fishy when so many of our commits end up just shy of 4 star. It seems to be obviously skewed for some programs. Would love to see a breakdown of our recruits average over the past ten years, compared to other teams with a similar average, comparing number of players to the NFL.

[FriarsPoint]

Results say its basically the Top 10 and then everybody else. It's easy to judge the top talent. It's easy to judge lower end talent. It's the 60% in the middle that's really hard to judge and project development on.

True. And I saw your Michigan example. For those of you that will, now do Texas.

Never mind. I think this will suffice.
https://longhornswire.usatoday.com/2020/02/21/texas-has-top-10-recruiting-class-averages-over-the-past-five-years/

So, like I said. Top 5

[ScoobaDawg]

THIS CAME OUT LOOKING SHITTTTTTTTY Sorry guys.

Yeaa excel doesn't translate to posting very good. best thing is take a screenshot and upload it.

[Coach34]

True. And I saw your Michigan example. For those of you that will, now do Texas.

Never mind. I think this will suffice.
https://longhornswire.usatoday.com/2020/02/21/texas-has-top-10-recruiting-class-averages-over-the-past-five-years/

So, like I said. Top 5

Notre Dame- playoff in 2018 and 2020

Recruiting:

2016- 15
2017- 10
2018- 10
2019- 15
2020- 18

[PGHBulldogBG]

I think Clemson is a bit of a flash in the pan because they have the 2nd best coach in college football. Whether he can keep up the results with NIL will be interesting to see. I think NIL will make it harder but I still expect them to keep staying a top the ACC with Wake Forest until FSU and Miami get it rolling again

[msstate7]

Tee Martin and Danny Weurful say Hi. (Kinda kiddin; that was ages ago)

Danny was an unbelievable college qb. This is the guy peak Rogers could be to me

[OLJWales]

Danny was an unbelievable college qb. This is the guy peak Rogers could be to me

All I ever remember was Danny throwing 50-50 balls to future and tall NFL WR's.

[Turfdawg67]

THIS CAME OUT LOOKING SHITTTTTTTTY Sorry guys.

Yep. But good info