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TheLostDawg
12-15-2021, 12:17 AM
And go (in about forty minutes).

Who do we have signed.

confucius say
12-15-2021, 07:51 AM
Jackson cannon was first this morning.

sleepy dawg
12-15-2021, 08:11 AM
Where can you follow along?

Vandownbytheriver
12-15-2021, 08:49 AM
Where can you follow along?

Twitter and here.
https://hailstate.com/signingday/football/football/28/

Vandownbytheriver
12-15-2021, 08:51 AM
Braedyn Locke, Lucas Taylor, Trent Singleton, Donterry Singleton, Jackson LaHue have all signed.

TheLostDawg
12-15-2021, 08:57 AM
Any that weren't committed?

sleepy dawg
12-15-2021, 09:05 AM
Braedyn Locke, Lucas Taylor, Trent Singleton, Donterry Singleton, Jackson LaHue have all signed.

correction: Donterry Russell

TheLostDawg
12-15-2021, 09:06 AM
Twitter and here.
https://hailstate.com/signingday/football/football/28/

Pretty good info on there. That Locke kid seems perfect for us. Holds career passing td and second in yards.

Like seeing all these OL sign early. Nice actually having a few sign unlike in the past where we had to convert a tight end

sleepy dawg
12-15-2021, 09:06 AM
Wesley Miller signed now too.

Dawgology
12-15-2021, 09:15 AM
Pretty good info on there. That Locke kid seems perfect for us. Holds career passing td and second in yards.

Like seeing all these OL sign early. Nice actually having a few sign unlike in the past where we had to convert a tight end

Yep. It’s going to be a few years but I’m REALLY excited about Locke in this system. He’s got a big arm too

William Tecumsah Sherman
12-15-2021, 09:24 AM
Kalvin Dinkins to State. Huge kid that?s athletic. From tiny Lake, MS so I think this may be one of those diamonds down the road.

TrapGame
12-15-2021, 09:30 AM
Kalvin Dinkins to State. Huge kid that?s athletic. From tiny Lake, MS so I think this may be one of those diamonds down the road.

Is that the kid built like Jeff Simmons? I've heard good things about him.

NWADAWG
12-15-2021, 09:33 AM
Pretty good info on there. That Locke kid seems perfect for us. Holds career passing td and second in yards.

Like seeing all these OL sign early. Nice actually having a few sign unlike in the past where we had to convert a tight end

Yep. We have a much better history of converting them to QB than OL.

TheLostDawg
12-15-2021, 09:33 AM
Kalvin Dinkins to State. Huge kid that?s athletic. From tiny Lake, MS so I think this may be one of those diamonds down the road.

Yeah seems Florida really wanted him from what I've seen

Todd4State
12-15-2021, 09:36 AM
Is that the kid built like Jeff Simmons? I've heard good things about him.

I was impressed with the 600 pound back squat he put on Twitter yesterday.

Catfish
12-15-2021, 09:37 AM
Going to be a good day.

confucius say
12-15-2021, 09:53 AM
Kalvin Dinkins to State. Huge kid that?s athletic. From tiny Lake, MS so I think this may be one of those diamonds down the road.

Scott county stand up

chef dixon
12-15-2021, 10:04 AM
So with Dinkins are we 1 for 1 so far on targets today?

OLJWales
12-15-2021, 10:10 AM
Anybody got insider stuff on those 3 outta staters OL"s? Typical project types needing a couple yrs to develop?

William Tecumsah Sherman
12-15-2021, 10:13 AM
Dinkins had offers from Baylor and UF now that Napier is there. With coaching and college S&C, look out

Johnson85
12-15-2021, 10:24 AM
How many are expected to sign today? Have 8 so far. Any planned announcements we're waiting on?

Bdawg
12-15-2021, 10:43 AM
Seems like a mighty slow day with the way they are coming in.

Hot Rock
12-15-2021, 10:46 AM
If you didn't see that video of Dinkins Squatting 600lbs then you should check him out.

He could be one of those dudes that people just didn't know about in Mississippi that turns out to be a baller.

Dave Aranda was on him from Baylor and Napier from Florida. He will be a player and he could be the steal of signing day.

Let's see three 6' 5" 300lbers on the OL and two nice DL in Russell and Dinkins and then 2 DB's and the QB; nice start to what hopefully will be a good to great day.

But dang this seems slow coming in

Ezsoil
12-15-2021, 10:49 AM
How many are expected to sign today? Have 8 so far. Any planned announcements we're waiting on?

I had heard they expected 14

confucius say
12-15-2021, 10:51 AM
The uncommitted that we are waiting on beat I can tell are

Lewis
Nicholson
Williams
Allen
Maybe FIU wr

BeardoMSU
12-15-2021, 10:58 AM
Collins, DB from Georgia, signs.

William Tecumsah Sherman
12-15-2021, 11:06 AM
Nicholson to State

TrapGame
12-15-2021, 11:08 AM
Nicholson to State

BOOM!

CadaverDawg
12-15-2021, 11:09 AM
Nicholson to State

Big

BayouDawg
12-15-2021, 11:10 AM
With Nicholson in the boat now all we need is Lewis and Williams for this to be a good day.

BeardoMSU
12-15-2021, 11:11 AM
BOOM!

Good news, bitches!**


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHDs1ZJ74po&ab_channel=KeyserSoze

Catfish
12-15-2021, 11:11 AM
Awesome!!!

Commercecomet24
12-15-2021, 11:11 AM
Our coaches did a great job with Decarlos! They overcame a huge obstacle to get him. Everyone needs to stop bitching that our staff can't recruit. This took some doing! HAILSTATE!

Commercecomet24
12-15-2021, 11:12 AM
Lewis is next

RougeDawg
12-15-2021, 11:17 AM
Anything expected from Dortch today? We need to upgrade the WR talent and raise that ceiling.

Commercecomet24
12-15-2021, 11:19 AM
Y'all can thank Leach, Arnett, Jaden Walley and KJ Wright for winning with Decarlos! I can't reiterate enough how hard leach and staff worked for this one! And my son worked Decarlos pretty hard too!

BeardoMSU
12-15-2021, 11:23 AM
Anything expected from Dortch today? We need to upgrade the WR talent and raise that ceiling.

He just signed. Steve tweeted video of him ringing a bell.

Offshore Dawg
12-15-2021, 11:24 AM
Y'all can thank Leach, Arnett, Jaden Walley and KJ Wright for winning with Decarlos! I can't reiterate enough how hard leach and staff worked for this one! And my son worked Decarlos pretty hard too!
good job dude

Westdawg
12-15-2021, 11:27 AM
Need Trevion Williams signed sealed and delivered, as well as Percy Lewis.

RougeDawg
12-15-2021, 11:27 AM
He just signed. Steve tweeted video of him ringing a bell.

Good to know. More talent brings about better competition in practice and everyone should benefit. Will elevate everyone else in the group.

Bdawg
12-15-2021, 11:33 AM
Our coaches did a great job with Decarlos! They overcame a huge obstacle to get him. Everyone needs to stop bitching that our staff can't recruit. This took some doing! HAILSTATE!

Congrats. Know you and all of us wanted this one

Cowbell
12-15-2021, 12:07 PM
Congrats. Know you and all of us wanted this one

I second this. And thanks commerce for sharing all that information with us. I love to see good kids stay home. I hope he never regrets it for one minute

Vandownbytheriver
12-15-2021, 12:08 PM
Just saw Williams committed to State

BeardoMSU
12-15-2021, 12:08 PM
Trevion Williams has signed.

Westdawg
12-15-2021, 12:11 PM
Trevion Williams has signed.
BOOM 💥

TrapGame
12-15-2021, 12:14 PM
Trevion Williams has signed.

http://mrwgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Denzel-Washington-Boom-Gif.gif

preachermatt83
12-15-2021, 12:17 PM
There is another nice suprise coming

OLJWales
12-15-2021, 12:22 PM
Y'all can thank Leach, Arnett, Jaden Walley and KJ Wright for winning with Decarlos! I can't reiterate enough how hard leach and staff worked for this one! And my son worked Decarlos pretty hard too!

That's awesome commerce! Good Stuff man.

TrapGame
12-15-2021, 12:23 PM
There is another nice suprise coming

https://hoodlm.files.wordpress.com/2018/10/but-wait-theres-more-gif-14.gif

BeardoMSU
12-15-2021, 12:23 PM
There is another nice suprise coming

https://c.tenor.com/wPUbkhwfiuEAAAAM/curiosity-curious.gif

BeardoMSU
12-15-2021, 12:25 PM
https://hoodlm.files.wordpress.com/2018/10/but-wait-theres-more-gif-14.gif

Is Ron Popeil transferring?**

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Johnson85
12-15-2021, 12:37 PM
Trevion Williams has signed.

I know lots of signees from Mississippi play QB and I only remember the ones like McKinney because they are successful, but I still get excited seeing defensive players that were qbs on the assumption that they are well rounded athletes that are also going to understand defense and offense.

OLJWales
12-15-2021, 12:47 PM
With the success we're having , could this mean we're doing pretty good with NLI? Or Too New to Rate?

maroonmania
12-15-2021, 01:20 PM
Do we expect to get Percy Lewis? Given the departure of Cross, having a LT ready to come in and play is probably our #1 priority. If we miss on him then I hope the portal is kind to us at OT.

Hot Rock
12-15-2021, 01:28 PM
We should all know shortly. He is set to announce at 1pm as I understand it.

Commercecomet24
12-15-2021, 01:49 PM
With the success we're having , could this mean we're doing pretty good with NLI? Or Too New to Rate?

The NLI is going very well. Im privy to some info on it and we are doing a pretty good job.

ScrotieMcBoogerBalls
12-15-2021, 01:52 PM
The NLI is going very well. Im privy to some info on it and we are doing a pretty good job.

I'm confused. Are y'all talking about NIL?

Extendedcab
12-15-2021, 01:55 PM
I'm confused. Are y'all talking about NIL?

NLI - National Letter of Intent

confucius say
12-15-2021, 01:57 PM
I think the mean NIL.

And yes, there is an effort ongoing and a group that meets monthly. Hopefully some progress is being made.

dawgman15
12-15-2021, 01:57 PM
Jarnorris Hopson WR out of Tunica has signed his letter of intent

HoopsDawg
12-15-2021, 01:59 PM
Do we expect to get Percy Lewis? Given the departure of Cross, having a LT ready to come in and play is probably our #1 priority. If we miss on him then I hope the portal is kind to us at OT.

I'm not sure Lewis is a LT. But yes, he is expected to sign. So far today everything has gone as expected but it looks like we are going to lose Ramsey to Cal.

OLJWales
12-15-2021, 02:08 PM
I'm confused. Are y'all talking about NIL?

Sorry for the typo. NIL

maroonmania
12-15-2021, 02:08 PM
I'm not sure Lewis is a LT. But yes, he is expected to sign. So far today everything has gone as expected but it looks like we are going to lose Ramsey to Cal.

Haven't kept up with things as closely this year as in the past but who is Ramsey? Does Cal still have a football program? Who knew?

ETA: I hope Lewis can fill one of the two open OT spots.

maroonmania
12-15-2021, 02:18 PM
Looks like we just added Avery Sledgehammer!

Hot Rock
12-15-2021, 02:22 PM
And Khalid Moore makes it official... .nice nice

Avery was recently bumped to within one point of a 4 star per Robbie Faulk

Westdawg
12-15-2021, 02:22 PM
Looks like we just added Avery Sledgehammer!

Wow - has forgotten we were still in him

Hot Rock
12-15-2021, 02:25 PM
And BOOOM There goes Percy Lewis commit to Mississippi State. WOW!!!

Still some really nice pieces that need to sign but man this class is really off to a good start.

BayouDawg
12-15-2021, 02:26 PM
Percy Lewis officially in! Just waiting on Zavian to make it official and thats a great day. Anything else is gravy at this point

Commercecomet24
12-15-2021, 02:27 PM
I'm confused. Are y'all talking about NIL?

NIL sorry didn't have my glasses on

Commercecomet24
12-15-2021, 02:29 PM
Our folks have not cheaped out this year. We are doing some dang good NIL deals!

Coursesuper
12-15-2021, 02:30 PM
And Khalid Moore makes it official... .nice nice

Avery was recently bumped to within one point of a 4 star per Robbie Faulk

This one can play. Really glad we got him.

BrunswickDawg
12-15-2021, 02:35 PM
Our folks have not cheaped out this year. We are doing some dang good NIL deals!

That can't be. I've seen multiple "expert" threads on here complaining that we had no NIL strategy, that we were woefully behind everyone, and that Bo Bounds even says we suck.

maroonmania
12-15-2021, 02:38 PM
And Khalid Moore makes it official... .nice nice

Avery was recently bumped to within one point of a 4 star per Robbie Faulk

Still not seeing Moore on the official signee site. Hopefully no issue there.

Commercecomet24
12-15-2021, 02:47 PM
That can't be. I've seen multiple "expert" threads on here complaining that we had no NIL strategy, that we were woefully behind everyone, and that Bo Bounds even says we suck.

Lol they were wrong because some of the numbers I've heard are awesome.

We're still getting organized but it's pretty dang good start.

dawgman15
12-15-2021, 02:47 PM
What ever happened to the Dakota kid from Canton that transferred to JA this year

KOdawg1
12-15-2021, 02:55 PM
What ever happened to the Dakota kid from Canton that transferred to JA this year

Gonna sign with baseball, and if he doesn't get drafted next summer, he'll sign with football for next fall. Makes no sense to sign now and waste the scholarship should he get drafted.

OLJWales
12-15-2021, 03:01 PM
That can't be. I've seen multiple "expert" threads on here complaining that we had no NIL strategy, that we were woefully behind everyone, and that Bo Bounds even says we suck.

Repped

Johnson85
12-15-2021, 03:03 PM
I'm not sure Lewis is a LT. But yes, he is expected to sign. So far today everything has gone as expected but it looks like we are going to lose Ramsey to Cal.

I think he is our LT as of now with the hope that we find one in the portal.

HoopsDawg
12-15-2021, 03:03 PM
I think he is our LT as of now with the hope that we find one in the portal.

agree

IMissJack
12-15-2021, 03:09 PM
Steve is flying the pirate flag again. Who is it?

Hambone
12-15-2021, 03:10 PM
Javae Gilmore has signed

msstate7
12-15-2021, 03:12 PM
I've pretty much abandoned living-and-breathing recruiting, but seems we've done well from the posts here. Looking at current sec ranks though, it's concerning to me that we're 10th with Florida and lsu behind us. Do we have a lot of guys underrated Bc surely Florida and lsu improve big time before next signing day to leave us 12th if we don't pick up some more?

ETA... the .8746 avg per recruit is right in line with where we always seem to be, so leach's recruiting seems to be an unfounded concern

IMissJack
12-15-2021, 03:13 PM
Javae Gilmore has signed

Was he expected?

Kylesandi338
12-15-2021, 03:18 PM
Gilmore I believe

Turfdawg67
12-15-2021, 03:21 PM
That can't be. I've seen multiple "expert" threads on here complaining that we had no NIL strategy, that we were woefully behind everyone, and that Bo Bounds even says we suck.

Well one is currently at a Civil War reenactment, but he'll be on soon to tell us how our athletic dept is in shambles and we should FiRe CoHeNz!! ***

Catfish
12-15-2021, 03:24 PM
We've got some guys posting that aren't true fans.

Kylesandi338
12-15-2021, 03:25 PM
Khalid Moore signed!

Commercecomet24
12-15-2021, 03:25 PM
We've got some guys posting that aren't true fans.

Unfortunately we've had more trolls than ever this year

bulldawg28
12-15-2021, 03:26 PM
The MSU coaches & culture making it happen!

Commercecomet24
12-15-2021, 03:27 PM
I've pretty much abandoned living-and-breathing recruiting, but seems we've done well from the posts here. Looking at current sec ranks though, it's concerning to me that we're 10th with Florida and lsu behind us. Do we have a lot of guys underrated Bc surely Florida and lsu improve big time before next signing day to leave us 12th if we don't pick up some more?

ETA... the .8746 avg per recruit is right in line with where we always seem to be, so leach's recruiting seems to be an unfounded concern

It's gonna be close to top 20 class and we've filled areas of need with some great pieces. And it's a very balanced class which another coach never seemed to pull off. And we've flipped a bunch which hasn't happened in the past. I can tell you first hand this staff has recruited their butts off.

Turfdawg67
12-15-2021, 03:28 PM
I've pretty much abandoned living-and-breathing recruiting, but seems we've done well from the posts here. Looking at current sec ranks though, it's concerning to me that we're 10th with Florida and lsu behind us. Do we have a lot of guys underrated Bc surely Florida and lsu improve big time before next signing day to leave us 12th if we don't pick up some more?

ETA... the .8746 avg per recruit is right in line with where we always seem to be, so leach's recruiting seems to be an unfounded concern

We are signing who we targeted and had mutual interest in MSU. I'd love to have 3-4 5* too and move up the rankings, but it's not going to happen unless we go the red duffel bag route on top of NIL $$$

Commercecomet24
12-15-2021, 03:29 PM
The MSU coaches & culture making it happen!

Yes sir! We have a lot of folks participating like not in the past.

ShotgunDawg
12-15-2021, 03:33 PM
I've pretty much abandoned living-and-breathing recruiting, but seems we've done well from the posts here. Looking at current sec ranks though, it's concerning to me that we're 10th with Florida and lsu behind us. Do we have a lot of guys underrated Bc surely Florida and lsu improve big time before next signing day to leave us 12th if we don't pick up some more?

ETA... the .8746 avg per recruit is right in line with where we always seem to be, so leach's recruiting seems to be an unfounded concern

It's one of our higher average recruit rankings in a long time.

That said, we may finish 11th in the SEC, but there isn't going to be a whisker of difference between where we finish & where about the 4th or 5th SEC team finishes. Throw in the typical slight under- ranking of MS recruits, & it's pretty much in line with where most of the teams on our schedule fall outside Bama, LSU, A&M, & UGA.

Well over half the class has a chance to be ranked 88 or higher by 247, which if you think about 89-90 being the 4 star level, then it's reasonable that with a slight under ranking, half or more of the class could be a 4 star type player.

Last year's class was the best of Leach's career & this one is better

Turfdawg67
12-15-2021, 03:33 PM
It's gonna be close to top 20 class and we've filled areas of need with some great pieces. And it's a very balanced class which another coach never seemed to pull off. And we've flipped a bunch which hasn't happened in the past. I can tell you first hand this staff has recruited their butts off.

We'll finish in the bottom half of the SEC rankings once again and yet we'll be competitive with all above us save UA & UGA. Rinse and repeat... I would suspect that it we have that magical season again, like 2014, that we'll take a bigger step forward in recruiting... unlike last time.

ShotgunDawg
12-15-2021, 03:37 PM
We'll finish in the bottom half of the SEC rankings once again and yet we'll be competitive with all above us save UA & UGA. Rinse and repeat... I would suspect that it we have that magical season again, like 2014, that we'll take a bigger step forward in recruiting... unlike last time.

Leach should produce the best WRs & QB play that we've seen at MSU along with balanced classes. I feel good about where we're headed. Need a few more elite talent type guys, but we're going to be really solid

Commercecomet24
12-15-2021, 03:39 PM
We'll finish in the bottom half of the SEC rankings once again and yet we'll be competitive with all above us save UA & UGA. Rinse and repeat... I would suspect that it we have that magical season again, like 2014, that we'll take a bigger step forward in recruiting... unlike last time.

Difference now though is leach isn't leaving roster holes like in the past. We're filling every position of need and still have February signing and portal. I love how balanced this class is and flips like we haven't had in the past.

Commercecomet24
12-15-2021, 03:40 PM
Leach should produce the best WRs & QB play that we've seen at MSU along with balanced classes. I feel good about where we're headed. Need a few more elite talent type guys, but we're going to be really solid

Yep this.

Turfdawg67
12-15-2021, 03:43 PM
Leach should produce the best WRs & QB play that we've seen at MSU along with balanced classes. I feel good about where we're headed. Need a few more elite talent type guys, but we're going to be really solid

I think that's where the portal will help us, at least in the beginning.

TrapGame
12-15-2021, 03:45 PM
Difference now though is leach isn't leaving roster holes like in the past. We're filling every position of need and still have February signing and portal. I love how balanced this class is and flips like we haven't had in the past.

I've posted this before and will post it again.

MSU football under Mike Leach will be Texas Tech on steroids.

Hot Rock
12-15-2021, 03:50 PM
We have 4 that have not signed that I see committed.

Two in Dakota and RJ Moss. Moss sings in Feb and Dakota signing baseball until the draft then he signs football if he choses but what about:

Zavion Thomas and Kaydin Pope? They signing today?

Catfish
12-15-2021, 03:50 PM
Still need a kicker unless there's something in the works?

Turfdawg67
12-15-2021, 03:56 PM
Still need a kicker unless there's something in the works?

Portal

Commercecomet24
12-15-2021, 03:57 PM
Still need a kicker unless there's something in the works?

Portal kicker or 2

Cooterpoot
12-15-2021, 04:01 PM
We have 4 that have not signed that I see committed.

Two in Dakota and RJ Moss. Moss sings in Feb and Dakota signing baseball until the draft then he signs football if he choses but what about:

Zavion Thomas and Kaydin Pope? They signing today?

Dakota signed. Thomas will be down the road but his papers are in. So are Pope's and

dawgman15
12-15-2021, 04:07 PM
There's an and?

trob115
12-15-2021, 04:10 PM
Seeing some smoke that Ajay Allen might be in the boat.

ScoobaDawg
12-15-2021, 04:16 PM
I think that "and" just got Crystal balled to the good guys...only person who hasn't flipped their prediction doesn't have access to their site anymore lol

Hambone
12-15-2021, 04:21 PM
So this it what flipmas feels like on the other side! Gotta say, it feels much better

Catfish
12-15-2021, 04:25 PM
So this it what flipmas feels like on the other side! Gotta say, it feels much better

I'm thinking we can give Leach some credit for the flipmas, or lack there of, he's kind of like get in or get out.

Commercecomet24
12-15-2021, 04:27 PM
So this it what flipmas feels like on the other side! Gotta say, it feels much better

Lol much better.

Jack Lambert
12-15-2021, 04:27 PM
So this it what flipmas feels like on the other side! Gotta say, it feels much better

He is the pirate and isn't that what pirates do?

ScrotieMcBoogerBalls
12-15-2021, 04:28 PM
So this it what flipmas feels like on the other side! Gotta say, it feels much better

Who all did we actually flip and from who?

Westdawg
12-15-2021, 04:31 PM
Clayton is officially in the clock......👀🤔

TheLostDawg
12-15-2021, 04:44 PM
We'll finish in the bottom half of the SEC rankings once again and yet we'll be competitive with all above us save UA & UGA. Rinse and repeat... I would suspect that it we have that magical season again, like 2014, that we'll take a bigger step forward in recruiting... unlike last time.

Yes and continue to build on it. Again, unlike last time

TrapGame
12-15-2021, 04:47 PM
Merry Flipmas.

Clayton is a Dawg.

maroonmania
12-15-2021, 04:47 PM
Clayton is officially in the clock......����

And now officially in the boat!!

Maroonthirteen
12-15-2021, 04:48 PM
Dayum. Flipmas gifts are wrapped in maroon and white this year.

Hail to the Pirate!

Commercecomet24
12-15-2021, 04:49 PM
It's a good day to be a DAwg

Turfdawg67
12-15-2021, 04:49 PM
Merry Flipmas.

Clayton is a Dawg.

Hail State!!

TrapGame
12-15-2021, 04:50 PM
It's a good day to be a DAwg

Yes Sir. Good day.

Commercecomet24
12-15-2021, 04:51 PM
This has been a concerted effort on everyone's part(including nil folks). More to come.

TrapGame
12-15-2021, 04:55 PM
This has been a concerted effort on everyone's part(including nil folks). More to come.

No way. Stop it. I can't take anymore.

Just kidding. We working on some portal prospects?

Dawgology
12-15-2021, 04:56 PM
I've never been on the "Leach can't recruit" train I figured he would do fine here. I like his style of recruiting. On the other hand...I've been very suprised by our NIL/boosters. Well done.

TheLostDawg
12-15-2021, 04:57 PM
Leach should produce the best WRs & QB play that we've seen at MSU along with balanced classes. I feel good about where we're headed. Need a few more elite talent type guys, but we're going to be really solid

That's why I don't understand why we're not in the running for the top wrs. Ranking wise we aren't getting the top qbs but I think Leach is getting exactly who he wants

OLJWales
12-15-2021, 04:57 PM
It's one of our higher average recruit rankings in a long time.

That said, we may finish 11th in the SEC, but there isn't going to be a whisker of difference between where we finish & where about the 4th or 5th SEC team finishes. Throw in the typical slight under- ranking of MS recruits, & it's pretty much in line with where most of the teams on our schedule fall outside Bama, LSU, A&M, & UGA.

Well over half the class has a chance to be ranked 88 or higher by 247, which if you think about 89-90 being the 4 star level, then it's reasonable that with a slight under ranking, half or more of the class could be a 4 star type player.

Last year's class was the best of Leach's career & this one is better

This post reminds off one you posted when we first hired Leach showing how successful he is against schools with much higher crootin classes. Time and time again STATE has shown that rural unknowns after 2 yrs or so development can become just as good if not bettern those high profile 5 star athletes. It just takes more work on the staff's part than having 5 stars flowing in that some are ready almost immediately. STATE is a known venue for Leach type coaches. He knows the drill and the cards he's being dealt.

Commercecomet24
12-15-2021, 04:58 PM
No way. Stop it. I can't take anymore.

Just kidding. We working on some portal prospects?

Oh yes!

Commercecomet24
12-15-2021, 04:58 PM
Where have all the trolls gone?

Commercecomet24
12-15-2021, 05:02 PM
I've never been on the "Leach can't recruit" train I figured he would do fine here. I like his style of recruiting. On the other hand...I've been very suprised by our NIL/boosters. Well done.

I had heard rumblings about us getting our nil crap together but until today I was a little skeptical but then I heard some numbers and I've got to say I'm impressed. Staff let em know what we needed and dang if they didn't put out.

OLJWales
12-15-2021, 05:02 PM
Where have all the trolls gone?

l
LMAO

TrapGame
12-15-2021, 05:02 PM
Where have all the trolls gone?

They've been foiled again. Curses.

Narratives came crashing down this season. They hate it.

DAWG1903
12-15-2021, 05:09 PM
Where have all the trolls gone?

Commerce - you and I both know they are still here. Just wait until anything negative can be applied and they will come roaring back.

Catfish
12-15-2021, 05:11 PM
Commerce - you and I both know they are still here. Just wait until anything negative can be applied and they will come roaring back.

Trolls? Is this because Leach was hired?

Commercecomet24
12-15-2021, 05:12 PM
Commerce - you and I both know they are still here. Just wait until anything negative can be applied and they will come roaring back.

Truth.

preachermatt83
12-15-2021, 05:13 PM
I think everyone owes coot a “well done”. He’s been calling today for a while now

msstate7
12-15-2021, 05:15 PM
Early take always...
1. Leach can recruit well enough to give us a shot. I feel much better about the hire this year than last.

2. Mizzou and Kentucky are doing work. Mizzou's .9047 per recruit is strong.

3. Jimbo must have his boosters set up. They very well could finish with the #1 class. He's had good classes at aTm, but this is a bama and Georgia type class. .9401 per recruit with chance at 3 more 5-stars is impressive. His 8-4 days better be behind him with that talent.

4. OM is in the sugar bowl, and kiffin has them trailing us in recruiting, lol. He better clean up in the portal.

5. Napier better find some players. Florida doesn't put up with a bad year, and this class could lead to one in the next 2-3 seasons.

Ari Gold
12-15-2021, 05:19 PM
Early take always...
1. Leach can recruit well enough to give us a shot. I feel much better about the hire this year than last.

2. Mizzou and Kentucky are doing work. Mizzou's .9047 per recruit is strong.

3. Jimbo must have his boosters set up. They very well could finish with the #1 class. He's had good classes at aTm, but this is a bama and Georgia type class. .9401 per recruit with chance at 3 more 5-stars is impressive. His 8-4 days better be behind him with that talent.

4. OM is in the sugar bowl, and kiffin has them trailing us in recruiting, lol. He better clean up in the portal.

5. Napier better find some players. Florida doesn't put up with a bad year, and this class could lead to one in the next 2-3 seasons.

In reference to number 4
They have 5 DL in the portal right now , not sure how many they graduated . I know Sam Williams is gone .
And they have ONE DL signed and committed and I have been told he may end up playing OL
Ouch !!
Good luck in the portal to them , they will need it there

DAWG1903
12-15-2021, 05:22 PM
Trolls? Is this because Leach was hired?

No sir, this type of thing has been going on forever. But it really began ramping up in 1990 with The Kang!

My .02

Commercecomet24
12-15-2021, 05:23 PM
In reference to number 4
They have 5 DL in the portal right now , not sure how many they graduated . I know Sam Williams is gone .
And they have ONE DL signed and committed and I have been told he may end up playing OL
Ouch !!
Good luck in the portal to them , they will need it there

So far lane has laid a big ol turd recruiting this year.

CadaverDawg
12-15-2021, 05:25 PM
Great day for the home team. Hail State

Turfdawg67
12-15-2021, 05:25 PM
Where have all the trolls gone?

This is the point where they come on and say "come on guys, we're all on the same team. No need to point fingers." But they sure like to toot their own horn when things are perceived to be down.

Commercecomet24
12-15-2021, 05:27 PM
This is the point where they come on and say "come on guys, we're all on the same team. No need to point fingers." But they sure like to toot their own horn when things are perceived to be down.

Boy you nailed it right there!

They stick out like a sore thumb.

Hot Rock
12-15-2021, 05:28 PM
You give Leach this many quality OL with length, foot speed, balance and strength from which to pick then add in that he already had been getting good QB's, WR's and RB's. Add all that up, I say he can make this offense Hum in the years ahead.

On defense you keep the quality DL, LB and DB's that I have come accustomed to expect, I feel the "D" will be sustained if not improved.

Good day to be a Bulldog for sure! Is this what it feels like to win at recruiting? I have hope and not just for next year because I can see the production coming back but for years to come because I believe these guys can sustain it.

DAWG1903
12-15-2021, 05:28 PM
Trolls? Is this because Leach was hired?


This is the point where they come on and say "come on guys, we're all on the same team. No need to point fingers." But they sure like to toot their own horn when things are perceived to be down.

That is funny as shit right there Turf - but it is the damn truth! Why can?t we just all get along! LOL 😂

BrunswickDawg
12-15-2021, 05:28 PM
This is the point where they come on and say "come on guys, we're all on the same team. No need to point fingers." But they sure like to toot their own horn when things are perceived to be down.

They are off Leach and all on Howland now.

Cowbell
12-15-2021, 05:44 PM
They are off Leach and all on Howland now.

To be fair, these two are not comparable. Howlands criticism is well deserved

Bdawg
12-15-2021, 06:03 PM
This is the point where they come on and say "come on guys, we're all on the same team. No need to point fingers." But they sure like to toot their own horn when things are perceived to be down.

Ha. You got it. I admit I did have my level of skepticism because it's always played out that way and a lot of people went silent Monday after he weekend settled down. Seemed we were slipping(like normal). But it sounds like booster got their damn act together and made a few things happen. I try to stay somewhere in the middle with all this stuff and keep a level head. That way I got a better chance of being pleasantly surprised instead of disappointed. But if we all really thought about it, we usually over achieve in wins and losses compared to our recruiting rankings, so that's always a good thing. Hailstate today baby because I am pleasantly surprised!!! Hopefully we keep stacking balanced classes and trend upwards each year!!!!

Bdawg
12-15-2021, 06:05 PM
To be fair, these two are not comparable. Howlands criticism is well deserved

Agree

Vandownbytheriver
12-15-2021, 06:08 PM
Unfortunately we've had more trolls than ever this year

I'm not sure they are trolls. They are well documented State fans that would rather see us fail than them be wrong. And there's no other way to explain it. Some people just want to watch the world burn.

Turfdawg67
12-15-2021, 06:10 PM
I think everyone owes coot a ?well done?. He?s been calling today for a while now

Recruiting is a soap opera even if you have sources. I did find it funny that the two he predicted at 99% State leans, a few days ago, signed with other teams. Anyway, I appreciate any and all intel, especially if it's favorable!

Turfdawg67
12-15-2021, 06:14 PM
Ha. You got it. I admit I did have my level of skepticism because it's always played out that way and a lot of people went silent Monday after he weekend settled down. Seemed we were slipping(like normal). But it sounds like booster got their damn act together and made a few things happen. I try to stay somewhere in the middle with all this stuff and keep a level head. That way I got a better chance of being pleasantly surprised instead of disappointed. But if we all really thought about it, we usually over achieve in wins and losses compared to our recruiting rankings, so that's always a good thing. Hailstate today baby because I am pleasantly surprised!!! Hopefully we keep stacking balanced classes and trend upwards each year!!!!

Exactly the way I am. We are usually getting stolen from on signing day. Glad today has been different.

IMissJack
12-15-2021, 06:24 PM
So far lane has laid a big ol turd recruiting this year.

Was Lane maybe expecting to be gone by now, and it fell through?

TrapGame
12-15-2021, 06:41 PM
Was Lane maybe expecting to be gone by now, and it fell through?

I think Lane thought he was going to be on South Beach about right now drinking mojitos and looking at hot girls in thongs. He didn't think Mario would leave Oregon.

Bdawg
12-15-2021, 06:48 PM
I think Lane thought he was going to be on South Beach about right now drinking mojitos and looking at hot girls in thongs. He didn't think Mario would leave Oregon.

Aint it fun when it's not your coach shopping around.

yjnkdawg
12-15-2021, 06:51 PM
Where have all the trolls gone?


They have an agenda and they would much rather be able to say I told you so, or I said this was going to happen, etc. than CML succeed and MSU have a winning football program. The ones who said CML can't recruit, the air raid will never work in the SEC, CML is just here to draw a check, and on and on are silent and not posting today, because their agenda got blown to crap. It's amazing that some who say they are loyal supporters of MSU have such an ego, and a "I know more than you" attitude, that they would rather see CML and our MSU football program fail than them being wrong. It's good to not see that crap on here for now anyway.

Commercecomet24
12-15-2021, 06:52 PM
Recruiting is a soap opera even if you have sources. I did find it funny that the two he predicted at 99% State leans, a few days ago, signed with other teams. Anyway, I appreciate any and all intel, especially if it's favorable!

Soap opera is exactly the best way to describe it. I used to follow it closely but it's to much drama. We usually do fine but I believe Leach is stepping it up for us.

Commercecomet24
12-15-2021, 06:53 PM
They have an agenda and they would much rather be able to say I told you so, or I said this was going to happen, etc. than CML succeed and MSU have a winning football program. The ones who said CML can't recruit, the air raid will never work in the SEC, CML is just here to draw a check, and on and on are silent and not posting today, because their agenda got blown to crap. It's amazing that some who say they are loyal supporters of MSU have such an ego, and a "I know more than you" attitude, that they would rather see CML and our MSU football program fail than them being wrong. It's good to not see that crap on here for now anyway.

Enjoy it while it lasts they won't stay down long lol

yjnkdawg
12-15-2021, 07:01 PM
I think Lane thought he was going to be on South Beach about right now drinking mojitos and looking at hot girls in thongs. He didn't think Mario would leave Oregon.

This and he won't find another quarterback that can run his offense as efficient as Corral can. OM's offense and quarterback situation may be like LSU after Burrow.

yjnkdawg
12-15-2021, 07:03 PM
Enjoy it while it lasts they won't stay down long lol


Unfortunately, that's true CC. :(

IMissJack
12-15-2021, 07:08 PM
Anyone with NIL news for us please enlighten…

yjnkdawg
12-15-2021, 07:08 PM
Now if we can seal the deal on a DB, WR, and RB, later on this week then that would really be some rich gravy.

TrapGame
12-15-2021, 07:20 PM
Enjoy it while it lasts they won't stay down long lol

If we have the 10-2 season with a potential Heisman finalist next year with them sliding back to a 7-5 finish, oh brother, get ready for Freeze level shenanigans. It'll get ugly again.

TrapGame
12-15-2021, 07:21 PM
Aint it fun when it's not your coach shopping around.

It's fantastic.

Ari Gold
12-15-2021, 07:27 PM
A head coach that Doesn’t really want to be at a school about to pay him over 7 million and funny thing is did any of the big schools really even inquire about him or pursue ??
Spin that OM..

RougeDawg
12-15-2021, 07:38 PM
If we have the 10-2 season with a potential Heisman finalist next year with them sliding back to a 7-5 finish, oh brother, get ready for Freeze level shenanigans. It'll get ugly again.

Prostitutes for players and red bags of blow?

Dak Holliday
12-15-2021, 07:38 PM
Nice day!!! I must admit, the rumors surrounding Leach?s lack of recruiting prowess might have been greatly overstated. Solid foundation pieces to fortify solid skill positions. We have plenty of spots to shop in the portal. NIL support is a welcomed surprise. Let?s keep it rolling.

IMissJack
12-15-2021, 07:55 PM
Nice day!!! I must admit, the rumors surrounding Leach?s lack of recruiting prowess might have been greatly overstated. Solid foundation pieces to fortify solid skill positions. We have plenty of spots to shop in the portal. NIL support is a welcomed surprise. Let?s keep it rolling.

Leach is in more “fertile” recruiting grounds than he has ever had at TT and WSU. It is hard to judge his past and compare to now in recruiting. It does seem to me that he has a staff that maximizes their abilities if we can get initial interest from a recruit.

TrapGame
12-15-2021, 07:55 PM
Prostitutes for players and red bags of blow?

Old times, they are not forgotten.

Dawgfan77
12-15-2021, 07:59 PM
Anyone with NIL news for us please enlighten…

I mentioned this last week but we are getting our network organized and you will start to see it more next year and going forward

TheLostDawg
12-15-2021, 08:55 PM
This and he won't find another quarterback that can run his offense as efficient as Corral can. OM's offense and quarterback situation may be like LSU after Burrow.

Well Manning will be there in a few years and a bet their alumni will throw the bank to sign a top class that year. However if we continue to improve and capitalize/grow, that won't matter. They'll be playing catch-up.

preachermatt83
12-15-2021, 10:53 PM
Ajay didn?t sign with tcu today. I think he ends up a dawg.

yjnkdawg
12-15-2021, 11:06 PM
Well Manning will be there in a few years and a bet their alumni will throw the bank to sign a top class that year. However if we continue to improve and capitalize/grow, that won't matter. They'll be playing catch-up.

I don't think that is a done deal that Arch goes to OM just yet. Peyton didn't choose OM, and Eli probably wouldn't have gone if OM hadn't hired Cutcliffe, who they hired to cover all their bases and make sure that they got Eli. I think the family will let Arch make his own decision.

yjnkdawg
12-15-2021, 11:09 PM
Ajay didn?t sign with tcu today. I think he ends up a dawg.


Hopefully sometime Friday or this weekend he will be a Dawg,

preachermatt83
12-15-2021, 11:13 PM
Hopefully sometime Friday or this weekend he will be a Dawg,

I think we get him

TheLostDawg
12-15-2021, 11:13 PM
I don't think that is a done deal that Arch goes to OM just yet. Peyton didn't choose OM, and Eli probably wouldn't have gone if OM hadn't hired Cutcliffe, who they hired to cover all their bases and make sure that they got Eli. I think the family will let Arch make his own decision.

Archie got a ton of grief for Payton. I'm sure they let Arch pick but you know they are all being pushed to ole Miss.

TheLostDawg
12-15-2021, 11:14 PM
But either way hopefully after this season they are just playing catch up and we build on each year.

yjnkdawg
12-15-2021, 11:30 PM
Archie got a ton of grief for Payton. I'm sure they let Arch pick but you know they are all being pushed to ole Miss.

Yep, Archie did but Peyton wanted to play for Cutcliffe. Probably the one pushing the most is Cooper.

TheLostDawg
12-16-2021, 12:47 AM
Yep, Archie did but Peyton wanted to play for Cutcliffe. Probably the one pushing the most is Cooper.

True

Pancho
12-16-2021, 06:37 AM
So then what OC do the Mannings want Kiffin to now bring in? This has to be a critical issue for the family and the boosters. Kiffin probably doesn't give a rip.

DAWG1903
12-16-2021, 06:55 AM
They have an agenda and they would much rather be able to say I told you so, or I said this was going to happen, etc. than CML succeed and MSU have a winning football program. The ones who said CML can't recruit, the air raid will never work in the SEC, CML is just here to draw a check, and on and on are silent and not posting today, because their agenda got blown to crap. It's amazing that some who say they are loyal supporters of MSU have such an ego, and a "I know more than you" attitude, that they would rather see CML and our MSU football program fail than them being wrong. It's good to not see that crap on here for now anyway.

This ^^^ - just remember who they are and they are usually pretty easy to spot!

Dak Holliday
12-16-2021, 08:08 AM
So then what OC do the Mannings want Kiffin to now bring in? This has to be a critical issue for the family and the boosters. Kiffin probably doesn't give a rip.

With the recent parting of Cut and Duke, I almost wonder if he isn?t hired as a QB coach specifically to appease the Mannings.

Bdawg
12-16-2021, 08:24 AM
Old times, they are not forgotten.

Just look awaaay, ncaaaaaaaa, ncaaaaaaa, ncaaaaaaaa!!!!!( hold the As while singing)

Dak Holliday
12-16-2021, 08:25 AM
😂 like button push👆🏼👆🏼👆🏼

Ari Gold
12-16-2021, 09:44 AM
OM isn’t even in the top 3 for Arch right now..

Dawgology
12-16-2021, 09:46 AM
OM isn?t even in the top 3 for Arch right now..

Just for the PR for Ole Miss. It will be a marketing move and he will probably get paid for it regardless of where he ends up.

ETA: He's the #1 QB only because of who he is related to. He has very pedestrian numbers from what I'm seeing but I haven't seen him play. In fact, his yardage has dropped every year and he's playing against basically private school competition. I just don't see the reason for infatuation.

OLJWales
12-16-2021, 09:49 AM
OM isn’t even in the top 3 for Arch right now..

That's what I'm seeing too. Why so many thinking otherwise? Why ain't Mannings got the confederate cap out as a possibility?

yjnkdawg
12-16-2021, 10:33 AM
OM isn’t even in the top 3 for Arch right now..

This - I think a Bulldawg may be in the lead now (GA Bulldawgs).

yjnkdawg
12-16-2021, 10:40 AM
Just for the PR for Ole Miss. It will be a marketing move and he will probably get paid for it regardless of where he ends up.

ETA: He's the #1 QB only because of who he is related to. He has very pedestrian numbers from what I'm seeing but I haven't seen him play. In fact, his yardage has dropped every year and he's playing against basically private school competition. I just don't see the reason for infatuation.

I don't think the Mannings will play that marketing game, and I think Arch will be able to choose where he wants to go. Like I said earlier, if anybody is pushing him more to OM I think it would be Cooper.

Johnson85
12-16-2021, 10:48 AM
That's what I'm seeing too. Why so many thinking otherwise? Why ain't Mannings got the confederate cap out as a possibility?


They have been through this with Peyton. If they don't think OM is a likely destination, they are smart enough to know that giving them false hope will just make the blowback that much worse and they don't need the money to deal with that headache.

Coach34
12-16-2021, 10:51 AM
ETA: He's the #1 QB only because of who he is related to. He has very pedestrian numbers from what I'm seeing but I haven't seen him play. In fact, his yardage has dropped every year and he's playing against basically private school competition. I just don't see the reason for infatuation.

Private schools in Louisiana are better than most of the public schools. They recruit hard

Coursesuper
12-16-2021, 10:59 AM
Private schools in Louisiana are better than most of the public schools. They recruit hard

What classification is Newman? Not a big a Jesuit or Brother Martin are they?

Coach34
12-16-2021, 11:18 AM
What classification is Newman? Not a big a Jesuit or Brother Martin are they?

2A

Coursesuper
12-16-2021, 11:26 AM
2A

Thank you, I didn't think they we playing in the district St. Aug and John Curtis etc.

Jack Lambert
12-16-2021, 12:02 PM
Private schools in Louisiana are better than most of the public schools. They recruit hard

Wasn't Evangel Christian one of the best football teams in the country back in the late 90's?

OLJWales
12-16-2021, 12:03 PM
Wasn't Evangel Christian one of the best football teams in the country back in the late 90's?

I remember that.

lastmajordog
12-16-2021, 12:38 PM
OM isn’t even in the top 3 for Arch right now..

Hope your info is correct, speaking of what is his top 3 ?? Also I don’t remember Eli ever running, does Arch want to go where a running qb is part of the game plan??

Pancho
12-16-2021, 01:40 PM
Arch is very athletic and can run. FWIW Bama just signed a 2A QB from Tennessee.

yjnkdawg
12-16-2021, 01:53 PM
Hope your info is correct, speaking of what is his top 3 ?? Also I don’t remember Eli ever running, does Arch want to go where a running qb is part of the game plan??


Right now probably GA, then Bama and then Clemson.

Westdawg
12-16-2021, 02:03 PM
Arch is very athletic and can run. FWIW Bama just signed a 2A QB from Tennessee.

Classifications in TN are weird. Coached there for a while - Louisiana is similar. Don?t let the class distinction fool ya. Division II Class 2A is a monster in TN - massive private schools that compete a lot with public, but that recruit like you can?t imagine.
Ty Simpson - QB signee at Bama - is from Westview. It?s a solid HS program with really good coaching staff. His dad is a good coach, as well. Westview is 2A....but that school is more than twice the size of 2A schools in MS.

State82
12-16-2021, 02:18 PM
Right now probably GA, then Bama and then Clemson.

What happened to Texas? Sark was hot on the trail a couple months ago.

Coach34
12-16-2021, 02:40 PM
Wasn't Evangel Christian one of the best football teams in the country back in the late 90's?

And into the 2000's. They were the size of a 2A but played 5A football. Thats not uncommon in Louisiana. Private schools win as many or more of the state championships as public schools.

Dawgology
12-16-2021, 03:26 PM
Max Preps has him 108 of 170 for 1327 yards. What am I missing?

lastmajordog
12-16-2021, 03:27 PM
Arch is very athletic and can run. FWIW Bama just signed a 2A QB from Tennessee. He is absolutely capable but with pro football for the “Family” being the goal would he want to go to an offense where a running qb is part of the plan and injury is a greater risk.....?

OLJWales
12-16-2021, 04:33 PM
He is absolutely capable but with pro football for the “Family” being the goal would he want to go to an offense where a running qb is part of the plan and injury is a greater risk.....?

Manning to STATE.

Catfish
12-16-2021, 04:45 PM
Manning to STATE.

Why not?

redstickdawg
12-16-2021, 05:04 PM
Private schools in Louisiana are better than most of the public schools. They recruit hard

Louisiana privates, especially at the lower levels are MUCH better than the low level public schools, that's why they are separate for the playoffs so that the public schools can compete.
Arch is good, but he is far more hype than reality from what I have seen in watching a couple of his games. If he had a different last name he's a 3 star.

TrapGame
12-16-2021, 05:14 PM
Manning to STATE.

The Network would put a hit out on Cooper if that happened.**

OLJWales
12-16-2021, 09:43 PM
Why not?

I have no qualms with Manning to STATE. I'd give a lot of my earthly possessions to have an adult beverage with Archie about this matter. I caught a post route pass from Arch when I was a kid and he a Saint. I would have. A shot.

PikeDawg15
12-16-2021, 09:47 PM
Manning to STATE.

https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/ole-miss-football/arch-manning-playfully-trolls-mississippi-state-uncle-eli-weighs-in-on-twitter/

Its official

PikeDawg15
12-16-2021, 09:49 PM
I will say this.

I really can see Arch going to OM ... I think they mighta had a " bad signing day on purpose" because they are saving all the money for Arch

Dak Holliday
12-16-2021, 10:06 PM
It?s funny to say that we have reached to point where a top 25 class is bad because it?s near the bottom of our conference. JWS and Billy Brewer would?ve killed to sign either of our classes, yet they aren?t good enough. I know they say the differences after the top 10 are minuscule, but it just hit me funny that we are talking about them like top 25 is down. Isn?t that about normal for them? 23-25? It?s just that everyone else in conference seems to be up. Hell, didn?t Vandy finish top 35?

As far as Arch, I?m still waiting to see if OM hires Cut as a QB coach.

lastmajordog
12-16-2021, 10:51 PM
del

yjnkdawg
12-16-2021, 10:57 PM
It?s funny to say that we have reached to point where a top 25 class is bad because it?s near the bottom of our conference. JWS and Billy Brewer would?ve killed to sign either of our classes, yet they aren?t good enough. I know they say the differences after the top 10 are minuscule, but it just hit me funny that we are talking about them like top 25 is down. Isn?t that about normal for them? 23-25? It?s just that everyone else in conference seems to be up. Hell, didn?t Vandy finish top 35?

As far as Arch, I?m still waiting to see if OM hires Cut as a QB coach.


That's a possibility I guess but the way "The Network" used Cutcliffe to make sure they didn't miss out on getting Eli and then didn't want, or need him anymore, I wouldn't think he would want to get back in that mess up there again. He didn't like the way "The Network" operated as he wanted to do things the right way in recruiting and in general, and that caused an issue. Actually, I don't think Archie would even ask him to come back to OM based upon what happened when he was the OM HC. Stranger things have happened up there so nothing is impossible.

yjnkdawg
12-16-2021, 11:58 PM
I will say this.

I really can see Arch going to OM ... I think they mighta had a " bad signing day on purpose" because they are saving all the money for Arch

I think the reason they had a bad signing day was because players they wanted in MS signed with us, Bama, and Miami, or maybe Kiffin just wants to live or die with the use of the portal?

BeardoMSU
12-17-2021, 12:40 AM
I will say this.

I really can see Arch going to OM ... I think they mighta had a " bad signing day on purpose" because they are saving all the money for Arch

Huh?

They had a bad signing day for 2022, so they can land Arch in 2023, lol?!?

So having a less talented team around him when he steps on campus is meant to be a recruiting pitch?

TheLostDawg
12-17-2021, 01:36 AM
Huh?

They had a bad signing day for 2022, so they can land Arch in 2023, lol?!?

So having a less talented team around him when he steps on campus is meant to be a recruiting pitch?

Equally confused and it's not like he is worried about money. His family has tons of it. He will too even if he doesn't play a college down. ESPN slobbers over the Mannings. That and Tony's hot sauce,