Paying Coaches vs Paying Players

[confucius say]

The baseline for sec coaches will soon be 7.5 million. And they money comes largely from private booster funds.
How about paying our coach 5 million per year and spending that other 2.5 million for NIL deals for players every year. That's 30k per player. Above board, coach knows why he is taking less. Kinda like how Brady takes less so more can be spent around him.

[Coach34]

The baseline for sec coaches will soon be 7.5 million. And they money comes largely from private booster funds.
How about paying our coach 5 million per year and spending that other 2.5 million for NIL deals for players every year. That's 30k per player. Above board, coach knows why he is taking less. Kinda like how Brady takes less so more can be spent around him.

NIL is a way for us to close the gap if we will get creative and aggressive as we did in baseball. Just have to decide if we are a serious program or not.

[KOdawg1]

NIL is a way for us to close the gap if we will get creative and aggressive as we did in baseball. Just have to decide if we are a serious program or not.

I don't see us being proactive enough to do it. I see us looking at others doing something and trying to replicate it.

Maybe I'm wrong.

[Maroonthirteen]

Definitely pay the players. However I'm not sure 100m contracts come from private money. That tv money pays for a lot.

[MoreCowbell]

NIL is a way for us to close the gap if we will get creative and aggressive as we did in baseball. Just have to decide if we are a serious program or not.

Unfortunately we have one of the lousiest cigar clubs in the SEC

[Lord McBuckethead]

Unfortunately, our Cigar boys graduated from MSU and didn't go on to own the rights to all the oil in Texas.

[confucius say]

We have enough money if we will organize it and get it funneled in the right place for this.

[Dawgfan77]

We are getting better at this as a lot of the younger boosters are in it to win we do have some folks in the AD who haven't caught up to the 21st century but we can thank a current football staff member getting things organized.
If what I'm being told comes to light 23 class and beyond you will a significant impact

[OLJWales]

We are getting better at this as a lot of the younger boosters are in it to win we do have some folks in the AD who haven't caught up to the 21st century but we can thank a current football staff member getting things organized.
If what I'm being told comes to light 23 class and beyond you will a significant impact

Good to know. The more I think about it the more I like the idea of NLI Salary Cap.

[IMissJack]

NIL is a way for us to close the gap if we will get creative and aggressive as we did in baseball. Just have to decide if we are a serious program or not.

We still have to get leadership at the top that gives a crap about competing, and that can get it organized.

[StarkVegasSteve]

We still have to get leadership at the top that gives a crap about competing, and that can get it organized.

We have to get leadership at the top who recognizes that football and basketball pay the bills for baseball. Apparently they still have not caught on to that yet.

[RougeDawg]

We have to get leadership at the top who recognizes that football and basketball pay the bills for baseball. Apparently they still have not caught on to that yet.

They are still in awe of Doc Foglesong doing the flyover in his best Red Barron impersonation and asking LT for branding advice.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

NIL is a way for us to close the gap if we will get creative and aggressive as we did in baseball. Just have to decide if we are a serious program or not.

Absolutely nothing in our history indicates we are a serious program, or if we were, that we'd lead the pack in being innovative.

It ws just 14 years ago that Les Miles was the highest pad coach in the SEC at $3.75M. Remember when Jimbo got the 10 year, 75M deal and we all thought it was insane money? Remember when Dan left us for like 6M a year and everyone said he was overpaid? Remember a year or 2 earlier when this board complained that Dan making 4M was too much? Remember when Aranda cracked 2M and the football world lost it's mind? just 5 years ago the avg salary for an SEC HC was $4.1M a year. Now Leach is below average at $5M. in 5 years we're going to "going cheap" by only spending 8M on a coach.

Point I'm making is that salaries have exploded on CFB and EVERYONE could see it happening for years, yet did we do the rational thing and go "Lets spend what we're going to in 5 years no matter what but do it now so we can rise above our peers in the meantime"? No, we stayed on par with our peers. Nothing against leach, my point is that any booster network with foresight would have gone high dollar since they'll be dragged to high dollar anyway. We have zero foresight. I'm glad we pulled the plug on JoMo after year 2, and I'm glad we landed Leach. But the money men are idiots

[Quaoarsking]

I would love to see the SEC put together a package, $X for every scholarship player to "endorse the SEC Network" or something. It wouldn't totally even things out, but it would be a step in that direction, knowing there is a baseline that an SEC player gets no matter which school he commits to.

[Quaoarsking]

I would love to see the SEC put together a package, $X for every scholarship player to "endorse the SEC Network" or something. It wouldn't totally even things out, but it would be a step in that direction, knowing there is a baseline that an SEC player gets no matter which school he commits to.

Let me flesh this idea out a bit:

The SEC Network withholds $1,625,000 from all teams' TV revenue each year and distributes it to players who use the NIL rules to "endorse the SEC Network" by sending a single Tweet along the lines of "hey watch me on the SEC Network this fall!" (or they can negotiate a similar low-effort substitute if they don't want to use Twitter).

Each year, each SEC team will designate 3 levels of player:
10 Level 3 players to receive $50,000
25 Level 2 players to receive $25,000
50 Level 1 players to receive $10,000

The SEC teams can enter into binding contracts with players at any time to promise whatever level in any future year, including on Signing Day, but they cannot overbook any future years.

You might see a recruit demand to be a Level 3 player his entire career, and if a school wants to make him that promise, they can. I can't imagine any of the big names having room to make that promise, and even Vanderbilt might be reluctant, but they may consider it. More likely, I think teams would be offering immediate Level 2 slots to big name recruits, with the less prestigious programs having more slots to offer, and those recruits knowing they're more likely to get promoted to Level 3 sooner at the less prestigious schools.

This wouldn't even out everything, because there would still be other NIL opportunities available. You'd still see players earning $10,000 at Alabama when they could earn $25,000 at another school, but I think it would be pretty common for players to transfer to bump up from Level 1 to Level 2, and fairly common to transfer to bump up to Level 3. So a scheme like this would be very good for SEC football, and it could be done with a small fraction of SEC Network revenue.

[ljws]

The baseline for sec coaches will soon be 7.5 million. And they money comes largely from private booster funds.
How about paying our coach 5 million per year and spending that other 2.5 million for NIL deals for players every year. That's 30k per player. Above board, coach knows why he is taking less. Kinda like how Brady takes less so more can be spent around him.

Makes too much sense. Nobody will ever go for it as a result, lol. Personally, I love the thinking.

[confucius say]

Absolutely nothing in our history indicates we are a serious program, or if we were, that we'd lead the pack in being innovative.

It ws just 14 years ago that Les Miles was the highest pad coach in the SEC at $3.75M. Remember when Jimbo got the 10 year, 75M deal and we all thought it was insane money? Remember when Dan left us for like 6M a year and everyone said he was overpaid? Remember a year or 2 earlier when this board complained that Dan making 4M was too much? Remember when Aranda cracked 2M and the football world lost it's mind? just 5 years ago the avg salary for an SEC HC was $4.1M a year. Now Leach is below average at $5M. in 5 years we're going to "going cheap" by only spending 8M on a coach.

Point I'm making is that salaries have exploded on CFB and EVERYONE could see it happening for years, yet did we do the rational thing and go "Lets spend what we're going to in 5 years no matter what but do it now so we can rise above our peers in the meantime"? No, we stayed on par with our peers. Nothing against leach, my point is that any booster network with foresight would have gone high dollar since they'll be dragged to high dollar anyway. We have zero foresight. I'm glad we pulled the plug on JoMo after year 2, and I'm glad we landed Leach. But the money men are idiots

At some point will the bubble burst? Will an AD say, I can pay Napier 6 million of the money and get the same results as paying Brian Kelly 9 million?

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

At some point will the bubble burst? Will an AD say, I can pay Napier 6 million of the money and get the same results as paying Brian Kelly 9 million?

AD's will spend whatever the boosters give them to spend, that's the bottle neck. It's not about actual value, it's about Boosters wanting bragging rights and how much does that matter to them

[confucius say]

AD's will spend whatever the boosters give them to spend, that's the bottle neck. It's not about actual value, it's about Boosters wanting bragging rights and how much does that matter to them

They'd get a lot more bang for their buck spending millions on players through NIL then overpaying a coach who is a dime a dozen.