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parabrave
12-05-2021, 02:05 PM
dam ugly start so far

chef dixon
12-05-2021, 02:07 PM
What a joke

BayouDawg
12-05-2021, 02:08 PM
This is why no one goes to the games. Just a poor product

BayouDawg
12-05-2021, 02:08 PM
Howland may need to be put out to pasture.

parabrave
12-05-2021, 02:09 PM
14-0. 15mins left 1st half

chef dixon
12-05-2021, 02:10 PM
Can you make our roster play any worse than that

msstate7
12-05-2021, 02:10 PM
Think it may be time to pick brooks or smith. Don't like them playing together much. Rather have cam in there

BayouDawg
12-05-2021, 02:11 PM
Ball movement and movement without the ball is just atrocious

BayouDawg
12-05-2021, 02:15 PM
Energy has looked a little better the last few minutes

msstate7
12-05-2021, 02:16 PM
Think it may be time to pick brooks or smith. Don't like them playing together much. Rather have cam in there

9-2 run since we broke up smith and brooks

Lord McBuckethead
12-05-2021, 02:16 PM
Ball movement and movement without the ball is just atrocious

Howland needs to re-evaluate his offensive goals and execution. WE are so easy to guard. Especially when we are lazy.

parabrave
12-05-2021, 02:16 PM
making a run. 16-9 12minsw left. Matthews and Watts providing the Spark.

parabrave
12-05-2021, 02:18 PM
Mol needs to start better than he has been. It seems he is sleepwalking the 1st 10 mins of each game.

msugolf
12-05-2021, 02:18 PM
Howland needs to re-evaluate his offensive goals and execution. WE are so easy to guard. Especially when we are lazy.

Should not take very long to evaluate. His only offense plan is to work it down to the bigs, like 90s Big East, and have your guards dribble up top while no one else moves.

msstate7
12-05-2021, 02:20 PM
Howland, I'm trying to take up for you, but this lineup right now is horrible

Lord McBuckethead
12-05-2021, 02:21 PM
Good move by Davis there. Good follow to his complete miss on the inlet pass on the previous. Then we allow an wide open 3. Dang.

Lord McBuckethead
12-05-2021, 02:22 PM
I would really like to run a zone every once in a while, with out length.

Lord McBuckethead
12-05-2021, 02:22 PM
Davis with another good move. Keep it up. Good cleanup by Brooks.

KOdawg1
12-05-2021, 02:22 PM
Keep pounding inside to Brooks and Davis

BayouDawg
12-05-2021, 02:22 PM
We overhelp so bad on defense and give up so many wide open 3s

BayouDawg
12-05-2021, 02:23 PM
Looking better now

Lord McBuckethead
12-05-2021, 02:23 PM
Thank God Davis didn't dive through that attractive Blonde lady on the sideline.

BayouDawg
12-05-2021, 02:24 PM
Pounding them inside so naturally Mol fires up a 3 without even trying to get a paint touch first. Makes sense

Lord McBuckethead
12-05-2021, 02:24 PM
We overhelp so bad on defense and give up so many wide open 3s

Yeah, we do that a lot. It will burn us against Ark.

parabrave
12-05-2021, 02:25 PM
Dam Mol settle down and drive to the basket.

LC Dawg
12-05-2021, 02:29 PM
Andersson Garcia shouldn't be leading this team in rebounds. There's some effort issues going on so far today.

msstate7
12-05-2021, 02:30 PM
Davis is giving us good mins

msstate7
12-05-2021, 02:31 PM
Stop leaving shooters open

BayouDawg
12-05-2021, 02:32 PM
Settling in now. We are much more athletic would like to run a little to capitalize on that

msstate7
12-05-2021, 02:34 PM
I'm listening in radio, but seems Moore is having trouble guarding their guards

Lord McBuckethead
12-05-2021, 02:36 PM
Iverson and Rocket getting it together. Down two with 3:22 left in the first

Lord McBuckethead
12-05-2021, 02:37 PM
No way that was a travel. He was bumped off his spot by the rebounder.

LC Dawg
12-05-2021, 02:38 PM
No way that was a travel. He was bumped off his spot by the rebounder.

Yeah, that was a bs call.

BayouDawg
12-05-2021, 02:39 PM
Howland has done a good job to settle the guys down after that horrendous start.

Lord McBuckethead
12-05-2021, 02:47 PM
I like how we didn't rush to bring the ball up the court with 7 seconds left. Good way to give up an open three and then lazy it up the court. Could have cut this to 3, but no.

BayouDawg
12-05-2021, 02:48 PM
Tolu looks bad today. Maybe bring him off the bench until he finds his rhythm

Lord McBuckethead
12-05-2021, 02:48 PM
Nevermind, brooks just banked in a prayer.

Lord McBuckethead
12-05-2021, 02:48 PM
Howland has done a good job to settle the guys down after that horrendous start.

He has, but we are just barely matching their energy. When are we going to dictate the energy against teams?

BayouDawg
12-05-2021, 02:49 PM
Bank is open for brooks. Good momentum grabber going into half.

OLJWales
12-05-2021, 02:49 PM
Sports God owes me a reach-around after all I've been thru of late.

HoopsDawg
12-05-2021, 02:49 PM
Watts had 3 really bad defensive possessions to end the half. He gave up 7 points.

parabrave
12-05-2021, 02:51 PM
Well only down 3 at the half. Hopefully Richard will be right about the lack of depth of the Gophers bench. Thats why we need to keep driving to the basket and make them foul.

HoopsDawg
12-05-2021, 02:54 PM
Well only down 3 at the half. Hopefully Richard will be right about the lack of depth of the Gophers bench. Thats why we need to keep driving to the basket and make them foul.

Depth doesn't matter in basketball. They play 7 guys and that is fine.

LC Dawg
12-05-2021, 03:04 PM
He has, but we are just barely matching their energy. When are we going to dictate the energy against teams?

I hesitate to post this because I don't want to start another attendance debate but our lack of attendance hurts our team's energy. I'm not blaming the fans for causing bad play because that's on our players and coaches but it definitely affects energy, especially defensive energy.

BayouDawg
12-05-2021, 03:08 PM
Tolu is killing us today

LC Dawg
12-05-2021, 03:10 PM
Battle and Tolu have really helped Minnesota this half.

parabrave
12-05-2021, 03:10 PM
Not the way to come out of the half.

BayouDawg
12-05-2021, 03:11 PM
What the hell this Minnesota guy can?t miss

parabrave
12-05-2021, 03:11 PM
Battle and Tolu have really helped Minnesota this half.

Add in Moore.

msstate7
12-05-2021, 03:13 PM
What the hell this Minnesota guy can?t miss

He came in avg 17 a game, so at least he's a player. I absolutely hate it when some garbage player goes off on us like every other game

HoopsDawg
12-05-2021, 03:13 PM
Tolu is killing us today

Why is he still in the game? unreal

Lord McBuckethead
12-05-2021, 03:13 PM
I am only half ass watching the game, as I am in the office but it is hard to gauge what the heck is happening. down 7 again.

Lord McBuckethead
12-05-2021, 03:14 PM
Now they are going to switch defense up on us, and shut us down with a simple, simple, simple 2-3 zone why we allow their guys open look after open look.

msstate7
12-05-2021, 03:15 PM
Battle not gonna let us win this game

Lord McBuckethead
12-05-2021, 03:16 PM
Will we make an adjustment...... based on historical evidence.... no.

Lord McBuckethead
12-05-2021, 03:17 PM
Battle not gonna let us win this game

As long as we refuse to guard him, you are correct.

Lord McBuckethead
12-05-2021, 03:17 PM
Mathews in the game now. Bet Howland told him, no more open shots for Battle, bud.

Lord McBuckethead
12-05-2021, 03:18 PM
Wow. They open it up to 14. Good coaching.

BayouDawg
12-05-2021, 03:18 PM
Gonna get cucked by a middle of the pack BIG team after getting cucked by a mediocre ACC team. My enthusiasm for this team is fading fast.

Lord McBuckethead
12-05-2021, 03:19 PM
How the hell do we have 12 to play and we are out of timeouts and down 14?

BayouDawg
12-05-2021, 03:19 PM
Nit here we come!

HoopsDawg
12-05-2021, 03:19 PM
awful perimeter defense.

VandelayIndustries
12-05-2021, 03:20 PM
We are not going to be good in basketball are we?

msstate7
12-05-2021, 03:20 PM
Probably time for howland to settle on 8 players, and play them only.

parabrave
12-05-2021, 03:20 PM
Play like this and we won't even sniff the NIT/

BayouDawg
12-05-2021, 03:21 PM
Probably time for howland to settle on 8 players, and play them only.

Maybe have practice from time to time as well.

parabrave
12-05-2021, 03:21 PM
How the hell do we have 12 to play and we are out of timeouts and down 14?

Cause we used 3 in the 1st 5 mins/

HoopsDawg
12-05-2021, 03:21 PM
Gonna get cucked by a middle of the pack BIG team after getting cucked by a mediocre ACC team. My enthusiasm for this team is fading fast.

roster way over-rated. Brooks + 2 transfers that weren't wanted. Then Jeffries who didn't start for Memphis. Then Tolu who puts up stats, but we were better without him in the NIT last year.

Lord McBuckethead
12-05-2021, 03:21 PM
Gonna get cucked by a middle of the pack BIG team after getting cucked by a mediocre ACC team. My enthusiasm for this team is fading fast.

When I challenged all the fans to get to the games, I stated that the team cannot get into games with Ole Miss and Kentucky without experiencing a home crowd that is big and behind them. Well, the fans 17ed around and still missed the entire nonconference schedule. But here we are again, where the team loses badly to a team they were favored by 12.5 pts. That kills enthusiasm. Got to win these games and build up the crowd. The fans are not going to show up, until you give them a glimmer of hope. 17in wrecking that glimmer time over and over again.

Joebob
12-05-2021, 03:22 PM
What an effing mess. Can't stop them from scoring and we have no timeouts left. This could get ugly.

BayouDawg
12-05-2021, 03:22 PM
We are not going to be good in basketball are we?

I dont know why I let myself get talked into somewhat believing we were. Howland is what he is at this point.

Cowbell
12-05-2021, 03:23 PM
We are not going to be good in basketball are we?

Oh we will. But only in small spurts that keep everyone holding hope that we have turned the page only to let you down all times in between. The Howland Era.

PMDawg
12-05-2021, 03:27 PM
Nm

OLJWales
12-05-2021, 03:29 PM
Same shit. Expectations dying a slow blood letting death.

BayouDawg
12-05-2021, 03:30 PM
Pathetic effort being given.

Lord McBuckethead
12-05-2021, 03:30 PM
Can someone take it inside and get to the basket? God dammit, 11 3rd pointer made.

parabrave
12-05-2021, 03:30 PM
At least they can appear to give a f56g on defense.

Lord McBuckethead
12-05-2021, 03:31 PM
Same shit. Expectations dying a slow blood letting death.

Why are we not in their grill at every single spot of the floor?

BeardoMSU
12-05-2021, 03:31 PM
This blows...

HoopsDawg
12-05-2021, 03:31 PM
trash defense by Watts.

Lord McBuckethead
12-05-2021, 03:31 PM
No one on this team looks to want to take a charge or block a shot. pathetic. Are we coached to give zero shits on defense?

HoopsDawg
12-05-2021, 03:32 PM
This is what happens when you sign talented guys who aren't winning players.

calidawg
12-05-2021, 03:32 PM
Howland about to be 0-2 vs teams with a pulse. Pack your bags.

Lord McBuckethead
12-05-2021, 03:32 PM
Down 13 with 8:10 left. favored by 12.5 pts coming in. Wow.

Lord McBuckethead
12-05-2021, 03:33 PM
announcer just said we need to change the pace of the game...... HA. Not 17n happening. We haven't ran an uptempo anything for 10 years, since a punch was thrown in Hawaii.

HoopsDawg
12-05-2021, 03:33 PM
Down 13 with 8:10 left. favored by 12.5 pts coming in. Wow.

that spread was ridiculous.

BayouDawg
12-05-2021, 03:34 PM
Brooks ran face first into a screen that he could have easily avoided then he never knows where the ball is and allows an easy layup when he was supposed to be the help defender. A microcosm of our team right now.

Saltydog
12-05-2021, 03:34 PM
If you Howland crotch lickers can?t see the ole man needs to go, I can?t help you!

Lord McBuckethead
12-05-2021, 03:34 PM
Look, the college game is all about runs. We just give zero indication that we are ready to put together a run. At this point, we need 12 in a row to take the lead. Who here thinks this team is ready to do that?

Lord McBuckethead
12-05-2021, 03:36 PM
that spread was ridiculous.

I don't think it was. Our team should be covering that. Unfortunately, our defense doesn't do jack and our offense refuses to just take the ball to the basket. Brooks not pounding the glass is disappointing. Tulu not doing his job is disappointing. Right now, MN is working us.

Lord McBuckethead
12-05-2021, 03:36 PM
damn, Tulu just almost air balled that free throw coming out of the time out.

Lord McBuckethead
12-05-2021, 03:37 PM
alright dammit. Get a stop.

Lord McBuckethead
12-05-2021, 03:38 PM
Down 8 with 6 left.

OLJWales
12-05-2021, 03:38 PM
announcer just said we need to change the pace of the game...... HA. Not 17n happening. We haven't ran an uptempo anything for 10 years, since a punch was thrown in Hawaii.

We play at the pace of our coach's enthusiasm level causing intense pain in my rectal cavity. Howland owes us some pre-game phone sex going forward to at least give us some foreplay instead of going in sandy and dry with no warning.

Lord McBuckethead
12-05-2021, 03:39 PM
finally some dribble penetration by DJ. Down 6 with 5:26.

BayouDawg
12-05-2021, 03:39 PM
Well we got it within 6. Trying not to get my hopes up again though

HoopsDawg
12-05-2021, 03:40 PM
DJ might need to play point forward, ha.

Lord McBuckethead
12-05-2021, 03:40 PM
We need two more stops here and get this back to one possession. Easier said than done.

RougeDawg
12-05-2021, 03:41 PM
Tolu is a liability

Lord McBuckethead
12-05-2021, 03:41 PM
We may need to try jumping some passing lanes.
Finally someone trying to block something. Tulu just forgot to jump.

BayouDawg
12-05-2021, 03:42 PM
Tolu has gotten his shit pushed in today.

Lord McBuckethead
12-05-2021, 03:42 PM
Down 8 - with 5:06.
Tolu cannot grab an open rebound. Dang.

Lord McBuckethead
12-05-2021, 03:43 PM
Tolu has gotten his shit pushed in today.

His legs are dead. Haven't jumped in 3 minutes.

Lord McBuckethead
12-05-2021, 03:43 PM
10 points - last 4 scored at the stripe due to Tolu not playing sound.

BayouDawg
12-05-2021, 03:43 PM
Game. This needs to be Howlands last year. Same song different verse

LC Dawg
12-05-2021, 03:44 PM
Tolu needs to sit

BayouDawg
12-05-2021, 03:45 PM
Smith makes up for his miscues by being bad at the free throw line as well

Lord McBuckethead
12-05-2021, 03:45 PM
Have we gotten a steal this game?

Lord McBuckethead
12-05-2021, 03:46 PM
6 points with 3:21.

RougeDawg
12-05-2021, 03:47 PM
We play lazy and stupid. Talent cannot overcome that

Joebob
12-05-2021, 03:48 PM
Besides the fact we don't run and don't press, and for the most part can't figure out the defense, the thing from past years that has reemerged is that we can't finish at the basket. I really thought that would not be a problem this year based on what I saw in the first few games. I guess that's why I needed to see us play some decent teams before I passed final judgement.

Lord McBuckethead
12-05-2021, 03:50 PM
4 PT 2:50 LEFT.

Lord McBuckethead
12-05-2021, 03:51 PM
We forced a turnover. Hot dang.
4 pts 2:10 left.

BayouDawg
12-05-2021, 03:51 PM
Down 4 with the ball! Damn it I?m getting my hopes up again

Lord McBuckethead
12-05-2021, 03:52 PM
we just had our hand on the dribbler, for 14 seconds straight. Isn't there a 5 second call?

ZedFedder
12-05-2021, 03:52 PM
We start playing fast and using our length and athleticism and we close the gap? Its almost as if that is the strong suit of our whole team and should be used the whole game.

Lord McBuckethead
12-05-2021, 03:53 PM
Chance for a 3 point play. Down 4, Mol on the line.

LC Dawg
12-05-2021, 03:53 PM
Moore has regressed from his good start to the season.

BayouDawg
12-05-2021, 03:53 PM
Yea we couldnt stop my 90 yo granny riding her rascal scooter on a dribble drive.

Lord McBuckethead
12-05-2021, 03:55 PM
That was awesome Mol. that was awesome.

Joebob
12-05-2021, 03:56 PM
Well, Molinar still knows how to finish.

BayouDawg
12-05-2021, 03:56 PM
Big Dick Mol!

Lord McBuckethead
12-05-2021, 03:56 PM
tied game. 41 left

Lord McBuckethead
12-05-2021, 03:57 PM
If we can get 1 stop, we win this game. Molinar will take it straight to the basket and he will follow through.

BayouDawg
12-05-2021, 03:57 PM
This team has showed some balls today. Lets finish this. Mol has carried us

Lord McBuckethead
12-05-2021, 03:57 PM
Someone, jump a passing lane. Please.

RougeDawg
12-05-2021, 03:58 PM
This team has showed some balls today. Lets finish this. Mol has carried us

Shown some balls? You mean they finally found theirs?

Lord McBuckethead
12-05-2021, 03:59 PM
Ballgame. Good fight, but guys..... we have to have that fight the entire dang game. That is how you win.

Quaoarsking
12-05-2021, 03:59 PM
Well that was a kick in the balls...

BayouDawg
12-05-2021, 03:59 PM
**** that bitch Willis. He wont make another 3 the rest of the year

HoopsDawg
12-05-2021, 04:00 PM
anyone but Willis there.

MoreCowbell
12-05-2021, 04:00 PM
This game epitomizes the Howland era. It’s painful to watch.

BayouDawg
12-05-2021, 04:00 PM
Shown some balls? You mean they finally found theirs?

Lol thats probably more accurate. And they will probably lose them before next game again.

HoopsDawg
12-05-2021, 04:01 PM
Awful 2 guard play today. Moore and/or Watts have to be better.

Lord McBuckethead
12-05-2021, 04:01 PM
Even an ugly way to end the game. It's like we don't know the situation we are in.
Howland, get the boys ready from the opening tip for once.

msstate7
12-05-2021, 04:02 PM
Defense was the problem today. I do have more confidence in howland fixing this than offense. Gotta tough one next Saturday

RougeDawg
12-05-2021, 04:02 PM
Pretty pathetic. Going to take close to a miracle for any ncaa tourney hopes.

Lord McBuckethead
12-05-2021, 04:03 PM
This game epitomizes the Howland era. It’s painful to watch.

Yeah. We have to win an additional SEC game now. Everyone of these damn easy games we lose, puts us behind the 8 ball. WE are not playing high RPI teams right now. Minnesota is better than the others, but a loss against a #60 RPI team doesn't look good.

BayouDawg
12-05-2021, 04:03 PM
Hard to overcome such a trash start

OLJWales
12-05-2021, 04:03 PM
This game epitomizes the Howland era. It’s painful to watch.


We will never be more than 2nd Rate Lethargic Ass Munchlings under Howland.

MoreCowbell
12-05-2021, 04:04 PM
7, you are the main skeptic on this board. How the hell do you have ANY confidence in Howland to do anything with this team? He is awful

parabrave
12-05-2021, 04:05 PM
Hard to overcome such a trash start

If we do this against a team with a full bench we will get skulled/

IMissJack
12-05-2021, 04:05 PM
We have some good athletes, but Howland just can’t get a team to gel. It is the same every year.

EdwardDrayton
12-05-2021, 04:08 PM
Just a little too late to the party with the requisite energy/effort. Disappointing.

HoopsDawg
12-05-2021, 04:09 PM
2 guard spot went 5-15, 3-11 from 3. Howland needed to find another shooter to go with Molinar.

msstate7
12-05-2021, 04:10 PM
7, you are the main skeptic on this board. How the hell do you have ANY confidence in Howland to do anything with this team? He is awful

Awful, lol

We've made 3 straight postseasons and it woulda been 4 if covid didn't cancel one. I would have a lot less patience if we actually supported our program. I can't see being able to get any coach worth a crap taking over for a fired howland. The only reason this program isn't a total disaster is howland's ability to get players here. Im amazed he gets players to play for us in a study hall home atmosphere

LC Dawg
12-05-2021, 04:11 PM
There's no excuse for losing that game. If we lose next Saturday it would probably take a miracle for us to make the tourney.
I can't give up yet because I love it too much when we're good at basketball.

Quaoarsking
12-05-2021, 04:11 PM
Awful, lol

We've made 3 straight postseasons and it woulda been 4 if covid didn't cancel one. I would have a lot less patience if we actually supported our program. I can't see being able to get any coach worth a crap taking over for a fired howland. The only reason this program isn't a total disaster is howland's ability to get players here. Im amazed he gets players to play for us in a study hall home atmosphere

The program is currently in a better state than Late Stansbury because at least we don't have all the embarrassing drama. The question is whether we're likely to replace Howland with someone better or not.

MoreCowbell
12-05-2021, 04:15 PM
Awful, lol

We've made 3 straight postseasons and it woulda been 4 if covid didn't cancel one. I would have a lot less patience if we actually supported our program. I can't see being able to get any coach worth a crap taking over for a fired howland. The only reason this program isn't a total disaster is howland's ability to get players here. Im amazed he gets players to play for us in a study hall home atmosphere

We don’t support because every single time he draws us in or we start to believe he lays an egg. EVERY SINGLE TIME. We know what we are getting already.

ZedFedder
12-05-2021, 04:18 PM
Its taken this long, but hopefully this season allows Cohen to finally pull the plug on Howland. We have GREAT athletes and totally negate them by playing slow. No adjustments. We still cannot win against a zone.

msstate7
12-05-2021, 04:21 PM
I wouldn't be opposed to a move from howland, but we better have our guy before we pull the trigger. I don't think most coaches out there see us as a good job. Just say frick it, and hire Rick pitino

HoopsDawg
12-05-2021, 04:23 PM
Its taken this long, but hopefully this season allows Cohen to finally pull the plug on Howland. We have GREAT athletes and totally negate them by playing slow. No adjustments. We still cannot win against a zone.

we wouldn't have these players without Howland. Iverson went 2-11 from 3. And we may not have signed the right 2 guard.

msstate7
12-05-2021, 04:28 PM
we wouldn't have these players without Howland..

This is what most don't understand. We're in a tough spot...

gtowndawg
12-05-2021, 04:30 PM
We don’t support because every single time he draws us in or we start to believe he lays an egg. EVERY SINGLE TIME. We know what we are getting already.

Yup

OLJWales
12-05-2021, 04:32 PM
Howland's nothing but a potential dingleberry my butt cheeks are trying to prevent. Attendence ra ra my ASS!! 17 This

ZedFedder
12-05-2021, 04:55 PM
But who cares if we have the players if they aren’t coached correctly or perform? I’d rather take my shot with a guy who can coach who may still get in good players with an actual plan.

Lord McBuckethead
12-05-2021, 04:56 PM
We don’t support because every single time he draws us in or we start to believe he lays an egg. EVERY SINGLE TIME. We know what we are getting already.

Exactly. There have been literally times in every one of his seasons that starts getting some traction. And I swear, every single time the fans show up, we lose in terrible fashion. Every single time. It gets old. I was the one calling for everyone to go to games and get vocal when in the stands. Yell like you actually want our team to win. I wanted people to show up early and not just when we are playing Tenn, KY, or Ole Miss. But guess what. The fans haven't shown up. So here we are. Talent to make a sweet 16 and cannot manage 3k for a home game, on Sunday afternoon against a P5 team?

So who contributed to this loss. 1st it is the fans, then Howland and then the team. In that order.
Howland go the players, it is our job to show up and make this a tough place to play. Basketball moreso than any other sport. The fans contribute.

If nothing else, we can boo them if they come out in an unacceptable manner and cheer like a crazy ass person if they are actually playing with energy.

Lord McBuckethead
12-05-2021, 04:59 PM
Its taken this long, but hopefully this season allows Cohen to finally pull the plug on Howland. We have GREAT athletes and totally negate them by playing slow. No adjustments. We still cannot win against a zone.

There are zero reasons why a team should ever play us in anything other than zone. Howland hasn't beat a team in 6 seasons that ran a zone against him. Not a single one in my memory. Same thing with Leach. teams that are athletic like OM and Ark beat us with the 3-8 defense. If you have the horses and deliver hit after hit on catches in front of you, we faulter.

I am watching OK State and Arizona, both of those teams would beat us by 25 because they run every opportunity they can.

Lord McBuckethead
12-05-2021, 05:01 PM
I will add this to the discussion. The fans are giving us nothing. Even the ones that do go to the games, just sit there like they are 17n church. Get the F up and cheer. No chance we had more than 3k there today. Raise some hell from the stands.

So until our fans show up, they deserve a share of the blame as well. Winners never have to worry about fans showing up, but at some point the fans need to push the issue and force our team to play like they want to be there.

calidawg
12-05-2021, 05:03 PM
So who contributed to this loss. 1st it is the fans, then Howland and then the team. In that order.
Howland go the players, it is our job to show up and make this a tough place to play. Basketball moreso than any other sport. The fans contribute.

If nothing else, we can boo them if they come out in an unacceptable manner and cheer like a crazy ass person if they are actually playing with energy.

lol @ blaming fans. Maybe if Howland would beat P5 teams rather than flex against little sisters of the poor, fans would show up. It's almost remarkable how good he is at killing any traction or momentum in a season and program.

OLJWales
12-05-2021, 05:05 PM
Exactly. There have been literally times in every one of his seasons that starts getting some traction. And I swear, every single time the fans show up, we lose in terrible fashion. Every single time. It gets old. I was the one calling for everyone to go to games and get vocal when in the stands. Yell like you actually want our team to win. I wanted people to show up early and not just when we are playing Tenn, KY, or Ole Miss. But guess what. The fans haven't shown up. So here we are. Talent to make a sweet 16 and cannot manage 3k for a home game, on Sunday afternoon against a P5 team?

So who contributed to this loss. 1st it is the fans, then Howland and then the team. In that order.
Howland go the players, it is our job to show up and make this a tough place to play. Basketball moreso than any other sport. The fans contribute.

If nothing else, we can boo them if they come out in an unacceptable manner and cheer like a crazy ass person if they are actually playing with energy.

Don't totally agree. Our HC has no fire or enthusiasm and the fans are fed up with half assed results for 7 years.

Lord McBuckethead
12-05-2021, 05:09 PM
That is fine that you don't totally agree. As fans we only have one way to help, and that is to go and cheer. That is our opportunity to help. Unfortunately, I don't think a single game of the Howland era has had a single game equal to the 2004 season for Stans. The team needs the atmosphere. Right now, they might as well be playing in the Bahamas. Shitty atmosphere.

OLJWales
12-05-2021, 05:13 PM
That is fine that you don't totally agree. As fans we only have one way to help, and that is to go and cheer. That is our opportunity to help. Unfortunately, I don't think a single game of the Howland era has had a single game equal to the 2004 season for Stans. The team needs the atmosphere. Right now, they might as well be playing in the Bahamas. Shitty atmosphere.

Howland's a grown ass man and needs to teach his players to be. Fans are also customers. Blind unwavering loyalty has limitations.

LC Dawg
12-05-2021, 05:15 PM
In regards to fan support our basketball program under Howland pretty much mirrors our football program's success since 2009. Think of a NY6 bowl as the NCAA tournament and other bowls as the NIT. And you can't get to the NIT with a losing record.

THE Bruce Dickinson
12-05-2021, 05:20 PM
That is fine that you don't totally agree. As fans we only have one way to help, and that is to go and cheer. That is our opportunity to help. Unfortunately, I don't think a single game of the Howland era has had a single game equal to the 2004 season for Stans. The team needs the atmosphere. Right now, they might as well be playing in the Bahamas. Shitty atmosphere.

Yep. Our fans acting like 6000 additional people at the game couldn't have swung the outcome (especially when it was tied with 30 seconds left) is comical.

Our fans just like winning when it comes to basketball. If this was a girls game via 2017 it would have been a full house. The whole "The girls play fundamental basketball" crowd is pretty quiet now that we suck.

msstate7
12-05-2021, 05:21 PM
Needs to be some method of getting tix that fans don't wanna use to local HS students or whoever that are willing to come. Maybe come up with some sort of bonus for bulldog club members that have their tix used 80% of the time or something.

And howland needs to get more out of this team. I'm still trying to be patient since it's so many new pieces, and there's been very little practice time with all them together. I wanna see a better defensive effort next Saturday

OLJWales
12-05-2021, 05:23 PM
In regards to fan support our basketball program under Howland pretty much mirrors our football program's success since 2009. Think of a NY6 bowl as the NCAA tournament and other bowls as the NIT. And you can't get to the NIT with a losing record.

Nothing excuses this talent ladened team so unprepared to play this year. Fans had patiently waited and were justified expecting more. SOS.

LC Dawg
12-05-2021, 05:34 PM
Needs to be some method of getting tix that fans don't wanna use to local HS students or whoever that are willing to come. Maybe come up with some sort of bonus for bulldog club members that have their tix used 80% of the time or something.

And howland needs to get more out of this team. I'm still trying to be patient since it's so many new pieces, and there's been very little practice time with all them together. I wanna see a better defensive effort next Saturday

The first part of your post would require Cohen to care if there are asses in the seats. I wonder if he cares as long as they're paid for. And if they're not going to give the students the side maybe they could split them to behind both goals so one end isn't completely dead.
In regards to the second part I hope something happens soon or we will have wasted a pretty talented team.

MCsMGs
12-05-2021, 08:22 PM
That is fine that you don't totally agree. As fans we only have one way to help, and that is to go and cheer. That is our opportunity to help. Unfortunately, I don't think a single game of the Howland era has had a single game equal to the 2004 season for Stans. The team needs the atmosphere. Right now, they might as well be playing in the Bahamas. Shitty atmosphere.

I wouldn't call the atmosphere in the Hump today as "shitty"...The crowd that was there was very loud and engaged.