Here is a MSU football stat that should concern next season opponents.....

[99jc]

All 47 touchdowns this season were either been thrown by, caught by or run by a sophomore or younger. The offensive performance will only get better and more refined. Plug the gaps on offensive line and defense with the portal and we might be very good. GTHOM!

[sleepy dawg]

Are you just saying that our running back and qb was a sophomore or younger? B/c we definitely had receiving TDs caught by seniors.

[msstate7]

Are you just saying that our running back and qb was a sophomore or younger? B/c we definitely had receiving TDs caught by seniors.

There was another thread on this stat. The seniors caught a td pass from an underclassman. The senior qb threw a td pass to a freshman. The stat is technically true, but deceiving as hell

[Todd4State]

There was another thread on this stat. The seniors caught a td pass from an underclassman. The senior qb threw a td pass to a freshman. The stat is technically true, but deceiving as hell

Still shows that we are a pretty young team that doesn't lose much.

[msstate7]

Still shows that we are a pretty young team that doesn't lose much.

If our oline can block next season, we should be pretty good offensively. Cross is a big loss

[Todd4State]

If our oline can block next season, we should be pretty good offensively. Cross is a big loss

Not worried about o-line. Worried more about kicker. If we find one we're good. Especially with most of our defense coming back.

[99jc]

There was another thread on this stat. The seniors caught a td pass from an underclassman. The senior qb threw a td pass to a freshman. The stat is technically true, but deceiving as hell

STATS CAME FROM THE CLARION LIAR....SO THERE YOU GO.

[BeardoMSU]

STATS CAME FROM THE CLARION LIAR....SO THERE YOU GO.

Was the CL also your source for Corrall sitting out the bowl game?

[sleepy dawg]

Still shows that we are a pretty young team that doesn't lose much.

It really just says we have Sophomore QB and RBs. Which is good, but the way it reads makes it sound like its more than that, which it isn't.

[Dawgology]

It really just says we have Sophomore QB and RBs. Which is good, but the way it reads makes it sound like its more than that, which it isn't.

Exactly. We wouldn’t want positive publicity to get out into the media and make State look good. Make sure you nip that in the bud!!!

[Dawgology]

There was another thread on this stat. The seniors caught a td pass from an underclassman. The senior qb threw a td pass to a freshman. The stat is technically true, but deceiving as hell

This is the difference between the State and Ole Miss fan base. The Ole Miss fan base would take this and run with it. Parrot it to every media member, put it up on every social, use it for recruiting momentum. Then reap the rewards.

State fans on the other hand shit on it and call it stupid and deceiving. Then the same ones will be complaining about how State gets no respect. Perception is reality folks.

[sleepy dawg]

Exactly. We wouldn?t want positive publicity to get out into the media and make State look good. Make sure you nip that in the bud!!!

I mean, lets just be honest about what it is though. The fact that our sophomore QB was a top 5 QB in the country is enough without having to manipulate words to make it sound better. Coming into next year, he'll probably be top 3 returning QB in almost all QB stats other than rushing. Why does that have to be twisted into something deceptive?

[LC Dawg]

I mean, lets just be honest about what it is though. The fact that our sophomore QB was a top 5 QB in the country is enough without having to manipulate words to make it sound better. Coming into next year, he'll probably be top 3 returning QB in almost all QB stats other than rushing. Why does that have to be twisted into something deceptive?

It can and should be promoted by more ways than just saying "our qb is good". It's called marketing and we suck at it. Starting the year with media attention and positive publicity is huge but at Mississippi State we seem to hope that if we play well people will eventually notice.

[Dak Holliday]

This is the difference between the State and Ole Miss fan base. The Ole Miss fan base would take this and run with it. Parrot it to every media member, put it up on every social, use it for recruiting momentum. Then reap the rewards.

State fans on the other hand shit on it and call it stupid and deceiving. Then the same ones will be complaining about how State gets no respect. Perception is reality folks.

100%

[msstate7]

This is the difference between the State and Ole Miss fan base. The Ole Miss fan base would take this and run with it. Parrot it to every media member, put it up on every social, use it for recruiting momentum. Then reap the rewards.

State fans on the other hand shit on it and call it stupid and deceiving. Then the same ones will be complaining about how State gets no respect. Perception is reality folks.

Happy about that difference.

[Quaoarsking]

All of our TDs were caught by a receiver who will return next year, right?

Williams, Calvin, and Heath can all return since 2020 doesn't count for eligibility.

[msstate7]

All of our TDs were caught by a receiver who will return next year, right?

Williams, Calvin, and Heath can all return since 2020 doesn't count for eligibility.

I hope they do return. I do wonder how many we intend to sign if we're getting seniors back another year.

[BayouDawg]

Are you just saying that our running back and qb was a sophomore or younger? B/c we definitely had receiving TDs caught by seniors.

The only seniors I can think of off the top of my head that caught a td was Heath and williams and they only had a handful. And all indications are that williams is returning to take advantage of his covid year.

[Coursesuper]

All 47 touchdowns this season were either been thrown by, caught by or run by a sophomore or younger. The offensive performance will only get better and more refined. Plug the gaps on offensive line and defense with the portal and we might be very good. GTHOM!

Every thing about this means nothing, the ? plug the gaps in the o line? is the key statement. If that doesn?t happen we won?t run it or throw it and it will be huge step back.

[Dawgology]

Happy about that difference.

Then never EVER complain about perception. What you have above is a hot take and it rules media and advertising right now. Also, it’s the truth. It’s something easy to remember that is promoted easily.

[TheLostDawg]

Every thing about this means nothing, the ? plug the gaps in the o line? is the key statement. If that doesn?t happen we won?t run it or throw it and it will be huge step back.

You forgot about fixing false starts. O line piled up penalties that hurt us just like our kicking did

[BayouDawg]

Then never EVER complain about perception. What you have above is a hot take and it rules media and advertising right now. Also, it’s the truth. It’s something easy to remember that is promoted easily.

Our fans bitch and moan about not marketing our product enough and then shit all over marketing when they do promote our product or nit pick it to death.

[msstate7]

Then never EVER complain about perception. What you have above is a hot take and it rules media and advertising right now. Also, it’s the truth. It’s something easy to remember that is promoted easily.

I never have.

[Dak Holliday]

Perception is reality. Anyone arguing against this is fooling themselves. Marketing should be simple enough that even the least intelligent can recall and perpetuate it.

[LC Dawg]

Most regular posters on here can tell you that the Johnny Vaught Rebel teams avoided playing Bama but a huge majority of fans of State and other schools don't have a clue and Ole Miss continues to successfully promote their 3 national championships.
Perception is often greater than reality in marketing and promotion.

[msstate7]

Perception is reality. Anyone arguing against this is fooling themselves. Marketing should be simple enough that even the least intelligent can recall and perpetuate it.

So perception is gonna score points for us next season?

[Dak Holliday]

So perception is gonna score points for us next season?

No, but it might help us secure a recruit or two that may. Might help us get a better bowl when someone is just looking at our record. Might secure a tv spot or prime time game when we are positioned for it.

[Dawgology]

No, but it might help us secure a recruit or two that may. Might help us get a better bowl when someone is just looking at our record. Might secure a tv spot or prime time game when we are positioned for it.

Exactly. We can keep on waiting for that 14 win season so we get respect or we can buy into marketing like every other successful team. We have been to 12 straight bowl games now. In that time we have finished last in the West 2 times. Ole Miss has finshed last in the West 6 times in that same period. Watching and reading media you would never know that though. It's marketing. It makes a difference. Unfortunately our own fans fight that as much as our administration.

[BeardoMSU]

Exactly. We can keep on waiting for that 14 win season so we get respect or we can buy into marketing like every other successful team. We have been to 12 straight bowl games now. In that time we have finished last in the West 2 times. Ole Miss has finshed last in the West 6 times in that same period. Watching and reading media you would never know that though. It's marketing. It makes a difference. Unfortunately our own fans fight that as much as our administration.

Good post.

It's really a philosophy that has to have everyone rowing in the same direction, and even though we've come a long way, we still have an element of "Po-Miss'ippi State" at various levels of our program/fandom.

[Joebob]

I mean, lets just be honest about what it is though. The fact that our sophomore QB was a top 5 QB in the country is enough without having to manipulate words to make it sound better. Coming into next year, he'll probably be top 3 returning QB in almost all QB stats other than rushing. Why does that have to be twisted into something deceptive?

Have to agree with this. There's plenty of good things going on in our program to publicize without being deceptive and displaying a lack of integrity. You just have to try a tiny bit harder to do it right. But it's worth the effort.

[Dawgology]

Have to agree with this. There's plenty of good things going on in our program to publicize without being deceptive and displaying a lack of integrity. You just have to try a tiny bit harder to do it right. But it's worth the effort.

What’s easier for national sports pundits to remember:

“Mississippi State has a top 5 quarterback that was a sophomore and is returning next year who threw to a predominantly freshman and sophomore wide receiver and running back group except for a few seniors who are also likely returning”

Or

“Mississippi State is young and has 100% of its Top 10 offense returning”.

Hot take and catchy is the name of the game now with social media.

[Todd4State]

What’s easier for national sports pundits to remember:

“Mississippi State has a top 5 quarterback that was a sophomore and is returning next year who threw to a predominantly freshman and sophomore wide receiver and running back group except for a few seniors who are also likely returning”

Or

“Mississippi State is young and has 100% of its Top 10 offense returning”.

Hot take and catchy is the name of the game now with social media.

Of course MSU won't promote Will like that because if he has a bad season then "it's embarrassing."

[tireddawg]

I don't think that's why, that's too much forward thinking, and our administration doesn't think that far ahead. Poor leadership, people who have given in to the other side's way of thinking. It's easier that way. We need different rich people to take over.

We need all those that have played at State, who have tasted success, to speak up, right after they give.

[Quaoarsking]

Of course MSU won't promote Will like that because if he has a bad season then "it's embarrassing."

Our fanbase is pretty bad about that too.

Case in point, "We Believe" was actually really cool, but posters here bring it up more than monthly as if it were some great embarrassment, even though no other fanbase ever rips on us for it.

[Todd4State]

Our fanbase is pretty bad about that too.

Case in point, "We Believe" was actually really cool, but posters here bring it up more than monthly as if it were some great embarrassment, even though no other fanbase ever rips on us for it.

That's true and I think it affects how MSU markets. If they feel like they are doing something to embarrass the fanbase they're unlikely to do it or repeat it.

We don't promote our recruiting classes in case the class turns out to be not good as another example.

On another topic- I think MSU needs to do a better job with players who have high expectations like Will is going to have. We did a poor job with Dak- and as an examples Dak getting attacked at spring break because he thought he could still "just be a college kid", getting arrested falsely by the SPD for a DUI, and stories about Dak getting cornered by our fans in public wanting autographs and pictures. We need to make sure our high profile players are insulated a little better for everyone's good.

[Commercecomet24]

Our fanbase is pretty bad about that too.

Case in point, "We Believe" was actually really cool, but posters here bring it up more than monthly as if it were some great embarrassment, even though no other fanbase ever rips on us for it.

Exactly

[Cooterpoot]

Our fanbase is pretty bad about that too.

Case in point, "We Believe" was actually really cool, but posters here bring it up more than monthly as if it were some great embarrassment, even though no other fanbase ever rips on us for it.

Completely different. It was cool, now it's funny. Its a joke, not embarrassing. Now Vroom Maroon, that was embarrassing.