Jimbo Fisher is a mediocre football coach?

[Coursesuper]

Can recruit, but is just not an elite coach at all. That guy consistently does less with more.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

He has an outdated O that's too complicated for college teams, and he's also the QB coach, isn't good at it, and that caps his team's ceiling. He's a top 15 coach, not top 10

[BrunswickDawg]

Jimbo just hasn't been the same since he found out his now ex-wife was banging a former Gator player while he was out winning a Natty.

[dawgday166]

Jimbo just hasn't been the same since he found out his now ex-wife was banging a former Gator player while he was out winning a Natty.

Do wut? I missed that one somewhere. I think I do recall she was banging someone but a Gator player?

[Commercecomet24]

Do wut? I missed that one somewhere. I think I do recall she was banging someone but a Gator player?

A former gator player.

[Irondawg]

Jimbo may have just got bailed out by a lucky 3rd down pass where LSU had just atrocious tackling and they turned 3rd and 9 into TD on a 4 yard pass

[Coursesuper]

This guy must be a snake oil salesman extraordinaire, the things they come up with on offense are breathtakingly boneheaded.

[Commercecomet24]

Lsu wins this game that gives us a tie for third in the west.

[Coursesuper]

Prevent D let?s LSU drive right cogent the field, and a loss for A&M. Shitty coaching!!

[Commercecomet24]

Jimbo just doesn't impress me.

[Coursesuper]

That guy is the most overrated coach in the country. He?s just flat sux.

[Activated Alpha]

Does LSU regret getting rid of coach O? He really turned it on the back half of the season

[PikeDawg15]

THIRD PLACE IN THE WEST BABY HANG THE BANNER

If Coach O woulda hired OC Briles at Arkansas , he woulda been in good shape

[dawgday166]

Jimbo just doesn't impress me.

Yea ... he needs to do something but not sure he will. Maybe the 5th year is the charm.

[PikeDawg15]

Does LSU regret getting rid of coach O? He really turned it on the back half of the season

Best interim head coach not named Greg Knox in america

[Coursesuper]

Does LSU regret getting rid of coach O? He really turned it on the back half of the season
No, he?s is a walking train wreck of a human. They have issues.

[CadaverDawg]

Does LSU regret getting rid of coach O? He really turned it on the back half of the season

No. Unless he got Joe Brady and Joe Burrow back, I dont know a single LSU fan that wishes O was staying.

I just can't believe we lost to them, and that they are so much better of a program than we are, that they fire coaches that win 6 games, and we extend coaches that win 6.

[Irondawg]

LSU finally gave the RT some help and it paid off. Wish Leach would do that sometimes.

You just can?t let one pass rusher disrupt the whole offense.

[Commercecomet24]

THIRD PLACE IN THE WEST BABY HANG THE BANNER

If Coach O woulda hired OC Briles at Arkansas , he woulda been in good shape

Not bad considering we were picked to finish dead last.

[CadaverDawg]

THIRD PLACE IN THE WEST BABY HANG THE BANNER

If Coach O woulda hired OC Briles at Arkansas , he woulda been in good shape

I thought we finished behind Bama, Ole Miss, and Arkansas? Aren't we 4th?

[basedog]

Jimbo is in the Qb face after every series. That would drive me insane. Yes about over paid/ over rated.

[LC Dawg]

Jimbo's national championship gives him too much credibility. He had Jameis (and he let him get away with a lot of shit) just like Chizik had Cam and Orgeron had Burrow. I think Jimbo's a better coach than those two but playing in a weak ACC and having Jameis really boosted his stock a little more than it should have. He damn sure isn't worth $9M a year. But he did beat Saban and that's the goal for every coach hired in the SEC. You're just not supposed to combine it with 4 losses.

[msstate7]

I thought we finished behind Bama, Ole Miss, and Arkansas? Aren't we 4th?

Tied with ark and aTm at 4-4 for 3rd. There is no tie breaker except for determining who goes to Atlanta

[Commercecomet24]

Jimbo's national championship gives him too much credibility. He had Jameis (and he let him get away with a lot of shit) just like Chizik had Cam and Orgeron had Burrow. I think Jimbo's a better coach than those two but playing in a weak ACC and having Jameis really boosted his stock a little more than it should have. He damn sure isn't worth $9M a year. But he did beat Saban and that's the goal for every coach hired in the SEC. You're just not supposed to combine it with 4 losses.

This all day.

[CadaverDawg]

Tied with ark and aTm at 4-4 for 3rd. There is no tie breaker except for determining who goes to Atlanta

Sigh. So we finished 4th. Ha

[SailingDawg]

Jimbo just doesn't impress me.

All the smack talk about Alabama, then beats them, but still 4-4 in the West. Gotta win a few more than that.

[msstate7]

Jimbo's national championship gives him too much credibility. He had Jameis (and he let him get away with a lot of shit) just like Chizik had Cam and Orgeron had Burrow. I think Jimbo's a better coach than those two but playing in a weak ACC and having Jameis really boosted his stock a little more than it should have. He damn sure isn't worth $9M a year. But he did beat Saban and that's the goal for every coach hired in the SEC. You're just not supposed to combine it with 4 losses.

Never agreed with saying a coach shouldn't get credit for a natty bc of so-and-so player when the coach recruited said player

[Commercecomet24]

I thought we finished behind Bama, Ole Miss, and Arkansas? Aren't we 4th?

No with am loss us, arky, am all tied for third but there are no tiebreakers after first place.

[CadaverDawg]

Do you know how pissed we'd all be if we beat Bama and STILL lost 4 games?? What a waste

[Coursesuper]

Jimbo's national championship gives him too much credibility. He had Jameis (and he let him get away with a lot of shit) just like Chizik had Cam and Orgeron had Burrow. I think Jimbo's a better coach than those two but playing in a weak ACC and having Jameis really boosted his stock a little more than it should have. He damn sure isn't worth $9M a year. But he did beat Saban and that's the goal for every coach hired in the SEC. You're just not supposed to combine it with 4 losses.

Yep

[msstate7]

Do you know how pissed we'd all be if we beat Bama and STILL lost 4 games?? What a waste

I would be fine with it. We've lost what 13 in a row?

[Commercecomet24]

Do you know how pissed we'd all be if we beat Bama and STILL lost 4 games?? What a waste

Ha! Most on here stay pissed anyways !

[CadaverDawg]

Ha! Most on here stay pissed anyways !

True lol

That would be the most MSU thing ever to finally beat Bama, and still basically finish 5th in the West and lose 4 games while Bama goes to the CFP. That's such a waste of a monumental win

[BayouDawg]

No. Unless he got Joe Brady and Joe Burrow back, I dont know a single LSU fan that wishes O was staying.

I just can't believe we lost to them, and that they are so much better of a program than we are, that they fire coaches that win 6 games, and we extend coaches that win 6.

Only major program in a talent rich state. A trained monkey could win a natty there. A trained monkey basically did in 2019.

[Commercecomet24]

True lol

That would be the most MSU thing ever to finally beat Bama, and still basically finish 5th in the West and lose 4 games while Bama goes to the CFP. That's such a waste of a monumental win

It really is a waste of a huge win. AM maybe the most inconsistent team in college football.

[viverlibre]

Without Jamies, he's Dan *******.

[msstate7]

Only major program in a talent rich state. A trained monkey could win a natty there. A trained monkey basically did in 2019.

He went and got burrow and Brady, so he should get credit for that. He recruited that team, and that team was one of the best in college football history.

He didn't keep them at that level, but he beat saban and dabo to win that natty. Who else can claim that? Maybe smart this year, but both bama and Clemson are down, and they weren't in 2019

[BayouDawg]

He went and got burrow and Brady, so he should get credit for that. He recruited that team, and that team was one of the best in college football history.

He didn't keep them at that level, but he beat saban and dabo to win that natty. Who else can claim that? Maybe smart this year, but both bama and Clemson are down, and they weren't in 2019

Yes thank you for making my point

[LC Dawg]

Do you know how pissed we'd all be if we beat Bama and STILL lost 4 games?? What a waste

It's equivalent to Freeze at Ole Miss. And I'll admit that I'm jealous of those two wins they had over Bama but I don't think great Ole Miss seasons is what A&M had in mind when they hired Jimbo.

[Coursesuper]

He went and got burrow and Brady, so he should get credit for that. He recruited that team, and that team was one of the best in college football history.

He didn't keep them at that level, but he beat saban and dabo to win that natty. Who else can claim that? Maybe smart this year, but both bama and Clemson are down, and they weren't in 2019

The guy is a walking human disaster, on the field issues are the least of his problems.

[Commercecomet24]

Without Jamies, he's Dan *******.

Ha! I just told my son same thing. Jimbo is a way better recruiter than Dan though.

[msstate7]

Yes thank you for making my point

Somehow you guys are missing the single most important element of being a college coach, recruiting.

Yeah, but saban would suck without the great players he signed**

[RougeDawg]

This guy must be a snake oil salesman extraordinaire, the things they come up with on offense are breathtakingly boneheaded.

Must be? Jimbo is High Freeze on a taller soap box. Same BS persona and sleaziness. I?ll tell you where jimbo will be when he meets his makers. Gonna need some ice. Ask him about covering for crab legs Jamis.

That?s why as a lifelong Saints fan the organization would bring on such a cancer. Police
Reports and public records are that, public. Shit on the Saints too. Everyone all around needs to apologize for anyone else with a brain. Sadly fewer and fewer these days.

[msstate7]

The guy is a walking human disaster, on the field issues are the least of his problems.

I have no idea about his personal life, and I don't care at all.

Wish I were more of a human disaster multi-millionaire

[BayouDawg]

Somehow you guys are missing the single most important element of being a college coach, recruiting.

Yeah, but saban would suck without the great players he signed**

Again you make my point. Only major program in a talent rich state. This isnt hard.

[msstate7]

Again you make my point. Only major program in a talent rich state. This isnt hard.

Burrow was a cast off, and O and brady turned him into #1 pick heisman winner.

[BayouDawg]

Burrow was a cast off, and O and brady turned him into #1 pick heisman winner.

Brady moreso and he had an elite D coordinator. Please continue making my point.

[Coursesuper]

I have no idea about his personal life, and I don't care at all.

Wish I were more of a human disaster multi-millionaire

The point you are missing is that these guys all caught lightning in a bottle with one or two special players and they couldn?t maintain the success. Some got fired others moved on and can?t repeat that success. They all sucked millions from the respective programs. A perverted and upside down system.

[msstate7]

Brady moreso and he had an elite D coordinator. Please continue making my point.

Burrow was there before brady. O got burrow! O got brady! You don't have the burrow-brady combo without O!

Why is it so hard for this board to give credit where it's due? O won that natty, and then O deserved to be fired 2 years later.

[msstate7]

The point you are missing is that these guys all caught lightning in a bottle with one or two special players and they couldn?t maintain the success. Some got fired others moved on and can?t repeat that success. They all sucked millions from the respective programs. A perverted and upside down system.

They set the lightning rod in place though. They got the pieces to win big.

[LC Dawg]

Burrow was there before brady. O got burrow! O got brady! You don't have the burrow-brady combo without O!

Why is it so hard for this board to give credit where it's due? O won that natty, and then O deserved to be fired 2 years later.

Do Chizik now. Just to complete it.

[dawgday166]

Burrow was there before brady. O got burrow! O got brady! You don't have the burrow-brady combo without O!

Why is it so hard for this board to give credit where it's due? O won that natty, and then O deserved to be fired 2 years later.

Sorta like Leach being a good coach and Will being a good QB?

[msstate7]

Do Chizik now. Just to complete it.

He got cam. He absolutely won it. College is all about who you put on your team. If Bill Belichick came to college and couldn't recruit, he wouldn't win crap at a national level.

[msstate7]

Sorta like Leach being a good coach and Will being a good QB?

And I realized I was wrong, and I gave credit where it was deserved. To just hold your nuts on someone is dumb just bc you don't like em or wanna be wrong

[BayouDawg]

Burrow was there before brady. O got burrow! O got brady! You don't have the burrow-brady combo without O!

Why is it so hard for this board to give credit where it's due? O won that natty, and then O deserved to be fired 2 years later.

Relax. You are entitled to your opinion no matter how wrong it is. O is not an elite coach. LSU is a gold mine of a job. So I give O credit for being competent enough to recruit and hire assistants.

[msstate7]

Relax. You are entitled to your opinion no matter how wrong it is. O is not an elite coach. LSU is a gold mine of a job. So I give O credit for being competent enough to recruit and hire assistants.

He's not an elite coach. I never said that. To give him no credit for getting a natty is ridiculous though

[dawgday166]

And I realized I was wrong, and I gave credit where it was deserved. To just hold your nuts on someone is dumb just bc you don't like em or wanna be wrong

I agree and you did. I kinda agree with you on O too. He won a Natty 2 years ago, I wouldn't be firing him this soon myself. Kinda dumb if you ask me. See if he can find right combo of coordinators again.

Pittman is working good but if he loses Briles & Odom he'll be in same boat.

[BayouDawg]

He's not an elite coach. I never said that. To give him no credit for getting a natty is ridiculous though

Sure he gets some credit but my point was that the LSU job is a place where lesser coaches can win it all.

[LC Dawg]

He's not an elite coach. I never said that. To give him no credit for getting a natty is ridiculous though
The OP said Jimbo is not an elite coach. I don't think anyone said these coaches don't get credit for winning a natty but just were making the point that doesn't make them elite.
I think Jimbo is head and shoulders above O and Chizik but I still think there's an argument for him not being elite.
I also think there's an argument for only Saban being elite so that kinda limits the field.

[BeardoMSU]

I really hope LSU hires Jimbo, lol. We'll probably go .500 against him there.

[BeardoMSU]

He's not an elite coach. I never said that. To give him no credit for getting a natty is ridiculous though

He also got a natty bc of an all time fluke play that allowed FSU to face Auburn instead of an all-time great Bama team.

[msstate7]

The OP said Jimbo is not an elite coach. I don't think anyone said these coaches don't get credit for winning a natty but just were making the point that doesn't make them elite.
I think Jimbo is head and shoulders above O and Chizik but I still think there's an argument for him not being elite.
I also think there's an argument for only Saban being elite so that kinda limits the field.

These are my elite coaches since 2000: Pete Carroll, Mac brown (for a stretch at texas early 2000s), urban Meyer, saban, and dabo

[WhiskeyPirate]

He’s pure snakeoil

[msstate7]

He also got a natty bc of an all time fluke play that allowed FSU to face Auburn instead of an all-time great Bama team.

Throw the fluke play out, it's still a tie game, so not sure how you credit bama the win

[Commercecomet24]

I really hope LSU hires Jimbo, lol. We'll probably go .500 against him there.

Yeah facing jimbo doesn't strike fear in your heart.

[Commercecomet24]

These are my elite coaches since 2000: Pete Carroll, Mac brown (for a stretch at texas early 2000s), urban Meyer, saban, and dabo

I think that's a pretty accurate list.

[LC Dawg]

These are my elite coaches since 2000: Pete Carroll, Mac brown (for a stretch at texas early 2000s), urban Meyer, saban, and dabo

I meant current elite so we kind of agree. Clemson's season this year kind of stains Dabo but I can't really argue against it. I think Kirby joins the list of current elites with a natty this year.
Also, Mac Brown still coaching is impressive but when you realize Saban is the same age Saban becomes even more impressive.

[Commercecomet24]

I think Kirby could be getting there too. He's close to joining that group.

[msstate7]

Smart has had saban beat twice on the biggest stage, and he lost both of them. I feel like Georgia is the much better team this year, but I'm not sure Kirby can get over the saban mountain

[Commercecomet24]

Smart has had saban beat twice on the biggest stage, and he lost both of them. I feel like Georgia is the much better team this year, but I'm not sure Kirby can get over the saban mountain

Gonna be fun to watch.

[LC Dawg]

I heard that in the post game tonight when they asked Jimbo about how he felt about the loss to LSU he said "I have ranches in Texas"***

[BeardoMSU]

Throw the fluke play out, it's still a tie game, so not sure how you credit bama the win

Bc Bama was the better team, and the better team usually wins in OT...as they did tonight. No guarantee, obviously, but it's not a bad assumption to make, IMO.

[BeardoMSU]

Gonna be fun to watch.

Indeed.

[DownwardDawg]

Jimbo has always been an average coach. That's all he's ever gonna be. I'll always remember laughing at the aTm contract they gave him.

[DownwardDawg]

I think that's a pretty accurate list.

I agree. Hard to argue against that.