I have calmed down

[PikeDawg15]

I have calmed down from thursday night and I have my good mind now

Leach is going to do great things at MSU, the team is super young still and almost the entire team is returning next year and it will technically be year 3 for will rogers ( even though technically he just started year 2 according to games started)

What Cohen will have to re stress to leach again this summer is the importance of beating Ole Miss, if you are going to have an average or bad season YOU HAVE TO BEAT OLE MISS, its just that simple, a NY6 will replace the egg bowl.

We need to hit the transfer portal hard to get a LT and a RT, the JUCO guy coming in will need some time to develop and losing charles cross is going to hurt but it isnt the end of the world.

The schedule next year will be very difficult but ... Arkansas and Ole miss will be losing a ton, Ole miss loses way more than arkansas though. Also watch the coaching carousel , hopefully lane will skip town on em and maybe some of the arkansas coordinators will be leaving also.

LSU will have a new coach who will be in game 3 and hopefully they wont have it figured out by the time we play em.

Auburn possibly with a new coach? we beat them on the road anyway this year and A&M, you never know what you will get from a&m, they should be very good next year.

We should be one of the most experienced teams next year and I have faith that Leach will improve our faults this season.

7-5 is a lot better than what anybody thought earlier this season and a bowl win would make it way better.


I think we win the next 2 egg bowls just imo and I also did say I thought we would lose this year, gotta remember, Ole miss is a top 10 team right now with a 1st round NFL QB ..... they wont have any of that

[phatdog]

I am confidently excited about next year for the first time since Mullen left.

[Cooterpoot]

The team isn't super young. We didn't start a single freshman. Many Soph are 3rd year guys or have played a lot the last two seasons. Takent level simply isn't where it needs to be. Next year should eliminate the Memphis type games and slow starts, but I expect a similar record. 8 wins probably. Year 4 is where it really takes off IMO.

[MafiaDawg]

If starting freshman is your definition of a young team then I can not help you understand.

[BogeyGolfer]

A big difference in September next year. You have to remember that 2020 was just practice, this was really our first full year in Leach?s system. We all can see the progress we?ve made? after another spring and summer I fully expect our offense to take off to start the year next season. Will needs to gain weight and muscle along with work on his pocket awareness. Don?t let the folks on here blow smoke and tell you ? ? we going to lose a lot of players to the portal? they don?t know Jack shit ? Take a look at the players who chose not to leave this year ?

[WhiskeyPirate]

The team isn't super young. We didn't start a single freshman. Many Soph are 3rd year guys or have played a lot the last two seasons. Takent level simply isn't where it needs to be. Next year should eliminate the Memphis type games and slow starts, but I expect a similar record. 8 wins probably. Year 4 is where it really takes off IMO.

How can you argue this ? Of course this team is very young.

[WhiskeyPirate]

A big difference in September next year. You have to remember that 2020 was just practice, this was really our first full year in Leach?s system. We all can see the progress we?ve made? after another spring and summer I fully expect our offense to take off to start the year next season. Will needs to gain weight and muscle along with work on his pocket awareness. Don?t let the folks on here blow smoke and tell you ? ? we going to lose a lot of players to the portal? they don?t know Jack shit ? Take a look at the players who chose not to leave this year ?

How many are trolls from other schools just trying to start rumors to damage the program ?

It?s not cool to make up crap about kids transferring out. Ive seen that happen on other boards.

[Tripp McNeely]

How many are trolls from other schools just trying to start rumors to damage the program ?

It?s not cool to make up crap about kids transferring out. Ive seen that happen on other boards.

Well, the truth is, we're gonna have to have some "good attrition"...at least 5-10 guys. We're gonna sign more than 25, we have some seniors talking about staying for that 6th year. If 5-10 guys aren't weeded out, we're gonna have way more than 85 guys on the roster next year. I don't think anyone is gonna be heartbroken about the guys that transfer out.

[WhiskeyPirate]

Well, the truth is, we're gonna have to have some "good attrition"...at least 5-10 guys. We're gonna sign more than 25, we have some seniors talking about staying for that 6th year. If 5-10 guys aren't weeded out, we're gonna have way more than 85 guys on the roster next year. I don't think anyone is gonna be heartbroken about the guys that transfer out.

Agree with that. I think the WR room is getting crowded, but with the looks we are getting you can’t turn down four stars who can play right away.

Probably will have a few kids on defense also who get caught up in the numbers game.

[donald igwebuike]

The team isn't super young. We didn't start a single freshman. Many Soph are 3rd year guys or have played a lot the last two seasons. Takent level simply isn't where it needs to be. Next year should eliminate the Memphis type games and slow starts, but I expect a similar record. 8 wins probably. Year 4 is where it really takes off IMO.

the correct answer. Keep the trajectory headed in right way and we should be pretty awesome in 23

[Bothrops]

We've got to have another qb ready though, because Will is liable to get hurt at some point.

[Todd4State]

We've got to have another qb ready though, because Will is liable to get hurt at some point.

With him in the shotgun as much as he is plus his decision making it should minimize a chance of an injury as much as we reasonably can.

[Commercecomet24]

With him in the shotgun as much as he is plus his decision making it should minimize a chance of an injury as much as we reasonably can.

Yeah and he don't take many hits because he don't run very much either. And i honestly believe with the progress he made this year he'll be getting the ball out even quicker next year. Still be nice to have a legit qb2

[PikeDawg15]

I was told lovertich will use his last year of Eligibility next year , not sure if here or in the G5.

[R2Dawg]

Yeah and he don't take many hits because he don't run very much either. And i honestly believe with the progress he made this year he'll be getting the ball out even quicker next year. Still be nice to have a legit qb2

True but that statue sack is gonna cost him if he is not careful. Better have another guy ready or we'd be in serious trouble with a no experience QB in this O.

[Quaoarsking]

The team isn't super young. We didn't start a single freshman. Many Soph are 3rd year guys or have played a lot the last two seasons. Takent level simply isn't where it needs to be. Next year should eliminate the Memphis type games and slow starts, but I expect a similar record. 8 wins probably. Year 4 is where it really takes off IMO.

Will Rogers, Joquavious Marks, Dillon Johnson, and Jaden Walley are all freshmen and will be here through 2024 unless they leave early for the NFL.

[Commercecomet24]

True but that statue sack is gonna cost him if he is not careful. Better have another guy ready or we'd be in serious trouble with a no experience QB in this O.

I agree I honestly wouldn't mind having 2 ready lol.

[thf24]

I was told lovertich will use his last year of Eligibility next year , not sure if here or in the G5.

Also saw someone who usually knows things say a little while back that there's a chance we get Abraham back next year, though I don't know how current that information is.

[Todd4State]

I was told lovertich will use his last year of Eligibility next year , not sure if here or in the G5.

If my math is correct he could be at MSU through 2023.

JUCO Freshman year in 2018
JUCO Sophomore year in 2019
COVID year at South Alabama in 2020
Played in 2 games at MSU and could redshirt this year eligibility wise 2021
Potential RS/COVID JR 2022
Potential RS/COVID SR 2023

Up to him and the team as far as what they want to do I suppose.

[Todd4State]

Will Rogers, Joquavious Marks, Dillon Johnson, and Jaden Walley are all freshmen and will be here through 2024 unless they leave early for the NFL.

COVID is going to cause all teams to have some very veteran laden teams. Ole Miss was this year. Ours is coming in 2023. The majority of players appear to be using their COVID year unless they are a legit NFL prospect like Charles Cross.

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

Well, the truth is, we're gonna have to have some "good attrition"...at least 5-10 guys. We're gonna sign more than 25, we have some seniors talking about staying for that 6th year. If 5-10 guys aren't weeded out, we're gonna have way more than 85 guys on the roster next year. I don't think anyone is gonna be heartbroken about the guys that transfer out.

With tutor gate and how we have undersigned over the last several years, how are we at 85? I was hoping to start over signing so we could get back closer to 85.

[Tripp McNeely]

With tutor gate and how we have undersigned over the last several years, how are we at 85? I was hoping to start over signing so we could get back closer to 85.

We're not. I think we're at 78(ish), but when you add, say 27-28 signees, only a handful of seniors leaving...ya gotta have some attrition

[Dawgology]

COVID is going to cause all teams to have some very veteran laden teams. Ole Miss was this year. Ours is coming in 2023. The majority of players appear to be using their COVID year unless they are a legit NFL prospect like Charles Cross.
It?s smart to use it. Many of them can squeeze in a masters degree with it.

[Dawgface]

The team isn't super young. We didn't start a single freshman. Many Soph are 3rd year guys or have played a lot the last two seasons. Takent level simply isn't where it needs to be. Next year should eliminate the Memphis type games and slow starts, but I expect a similar record. 8 wins probably. Year 4 is where it really takes off IMO.

I'll take that scenario.

[PikeDawg15]

Calling my shot now

Memphis Win
@Arizona win
@ Lsu win
Bowling green win
Texas A&M win
Arkansas win
At kentucky loss
At Alabama loss
Auburn win
Georgia loss
ETSU win
@ Ole Miss win

[Bothrops]

I think we got a shot at 8-4 next year.

[Catfish]

I think we beat Kentucky next year even though it's an away game. Not to sure about a win against Auburn though. It just depends which Auburn team shows up. With a little luck (we are due for some) we go 9-3.

[WhiskeyPirate]

Tamu
Ark
Ala
Kentucky
Georgia
Auburn

3-3 in that stretch looks about right. Even with 2-4 we likely end up 8-4. We will beat ole miss, maybe stomp them.

Of course this is assuming we have a serviceable O line.

[Quaoarsking]

Calling my shot now:

Texas and Oklahoma figure out how to come into the SEC for 2022, and we play both of them instead of Alabama and Georgia, and beat both.

[Catfish]

Calling my shot now:

Texas and Oklahoma figure out how to come into the SEC for 2022, and we play both of them instead of Alabama and Georgia, and beat both.

I sure hope you're right.

[WhiskeyPirate]

UT is going to struggle, OU not so much.

UT is like LSU a sleeping giant. If they ever made a good coaching hire they are very dangerous given the fact they are about the biggest richest school there is. Money talks.

USA Today link 25 richest programs, UT number one with 228 million a year in revenue. Ohio State is number 3, Alabama number seven, Florida number nine, ga and LSU in top 10. Michigan and Penn State, Tamu in there as well.

[Catfish]

UT is going to struggle, OU not so much.

UT is like LSU a sleeping giant. If they ever made a good coaching hire they are very dangerous given the fact they are about the biggest richest school there is. Money talks.

USA Today link 25 richest programs, UT number one with 228 million a year in revenue. Ohio State is number 3, Alabama number seven, Florida number nine, ga and LSU in top 10. Michigan and Penn State, Tamu in there as well.

It's gonna be tough for Texas for a few years. They seem to be declining. I think Oklahoma will get their bell rung quite a few times too.

[MaroonFlounder]

Y'all are calling a win in next year's Egg.

Leach doesn't win rivalry games.

I hat the oxford turds, but they will portal up and beat us again. You watch and see.

[PikeDawg15]

Y'all are calling a win in next year's Egg.

Leach doesn't win rivalry games.

I hat the oxford turds, but they will portal up and beat us again. You watch and see.

Then his ass is gone.

[PikeDawg15]

Y'all are calling a win in next year's Egg.

Leach doesn't win rivalry games.

I hat the oxford turds, but they will portal up and beat us again. You watch and see.

The blame isnt all on leach this year.

He put players in position to make catches and the receivers didnt catch the damn ball.

I predicted a loss this year because of course all their guys would be healthy for the egg bowl and we forget they are a top 10 team and we are an unranked team. The top 10 team usually wins.

[Dawgology]

Calling my shot now

Memphis Win
@Arizona win
@ Lsu win
Bowling green win
Texas A&M win
Arkansas win
At kentucky loss
At Alabama loss
Auburn win
Georgia loss
ETSU win
@ Ole Miss win

Outside of Bama and Georgia we can beat anyone on that schedule and that’s the first time I’ve thought that in about 6 years.

[TrapGame]

Y'all are calling a win in next year's Egg.

Leach doesn't win rivalry games.

I hat the oxford turds, but they will portal up and beat us again. You watch and see.

Leach didn't drop two touchdown passes in the end zone. Leach didn't miss a 38 yard field goal.

We beat OM by at least two touchdowns next year. Book it.

[msstate7]

Leach didn't drop two touchdown passes in the end zone. Leach didn't miss a 38 yard field goal.

We beat OM by at least two touchdowns next year. Book it.

I think it's crazy to predict games almost a year away. We were told to "book it" a week before this past egg, and we lost by 2 scores

[TrapGame]

I think it's crazy to predict games almost a year away. We were told to "book it" a week before this past egg, and we lost by 2 scores

That glass is still half empty to you isn't it?

We faced the #9 team in the country with a first round QB on the Heisman short list. I didn't see a lot of "book its".

They lose a shit ton of talent next year. More than us by the way. And if Lebby is gone it gets even tougher.

[starkvegasdawg]

I have not calmed down. I'm still pissed. Had we lost to a clearly better team I'd have been over it that night. But we left between 17-24 points on the field that game. Not because of a bad call or a rough break, but because we couldn't execute the 17ing fundamentals of the game. That is inexcusable. Biggest game of the year and we can't pull off the basics. No, I'm still pissed and I'm going to stay pissed for a while.

[Extendedcab]

I have not calmed down. I'm still pissed. Had we lost to a clearly better team I'd have been over it that night. But we left between 17-24 points on the field that game. Not because of a bad call or a rough break, but because we couldn't execute the 17ing fundamentals of the game. That is inexcusable. Biggest game of the year and we can't pull off the basics. No, I'm still pissed and I'm going to stay pissed for a while.

I'm right there with you Vegasdawg! My butt is still chapped!!!

[Fader21]

I don't understand the argument we lost to a team that isn't better than us. Take your Maroon colored glasses off. Ole Miss is a top 8 team. We are not, they are better than us this year. The reason why you believe that they are not better than us is because the Air Raid works, teams have to scheme us different on offense because of our 33 defense. Most teams in our league are running 4-3, or 3-4.

[msstate7]

That glass is still half empty to you isn't it?

We faced the #9 team in the country with a first round QB on the Heisman short list. I didn't see a lot of "book its".

They lose a shit ton of talent next year. More than us by the way. And if Lebby is gone it gets even tougher.

https://www.elitedawgs.com/showthread.php?89388-Rivalry-Week-Prediction-Thread-GO-TO-HELL-OLE-MISS-EDITION

^^^ prediction thread

Hell, you got mad when someone said Williams could give us problems.

We were the Vegas favorite.

I didn't predict either way other than there was gonna be a ton of points. Our defense performed better than I thought, and our offense did much worse

ETA... the point remains though, no one can predict next year's egg bowl with any accuracy right now. We have no idea what either team will look like

[TrapGame]

I don't understand the argument we lost to a team that isn't better than us. Take your Maroon colored glasses off. Ole Miss is a top 8 team. We are not, they are better than us this year. The reason why you believe that they are not better than us is because the Air Raid works, teams have to scheme us different on offense because of our 33 defense. Most teams in our league are running 4-3, or 3-4.

Matt Corral is a first round QB pick. Dude, can straight ball. Their defense doesn't have to do a lot b/c the offense can score pretty easily. Lebby is a damn good play caller. Had we lost to an unranked OM team w/ a white Chris Relf as QB then yeah, I'd be really pissed. Sometimes you just gotta let shit go.

[TrapGame]

https://www.elitedawgs.com/showthread.php?89388-Rivalry-Week-Prediction-Thread-GO-TO-HELL-OLE-MISS-EDITION

^^^ prediction thread

Hell, you got mad when someone said Williams could give us problems.

We were the Vegas favorite.

I didn't predict either way other than there was gonna be a ton of points. Our defense performed better than I thought, and our offense did much worse

ETA... the point remains though, no one can predict next year's egg bowl with any accuracy right now. We have no idea what either team will look like

Dropping passes did more damage than Williams. C'mon , man. Leach called the plays to score and we screwed the pooch. It sucks, but life goes on. And yes, I'm still saying we beat them next year. Save this if you want so you can continue to be the pessimistic asshole we all know and love.

[Maroonthirteen]

A few days to calm down.... my thoughts are State lost to a more talented team. However State had every opportunity to upset a more talented team but could not capitalize on those opportunities. For many different reasons that have already been covered.

[starkvegasdawg]

I don't understand the argument we lost to a team that isn't better than us. Take your Maroon colored glasses off. Ole Miss is a top 8 team. We are not, they are better than us this year. The reason why you believe that they are not better than us is because the Air Raid works, teams have to scheme us different on offense because of our 33 defense. Most teams in our league are running 4-3, or 3-4.

The reason I think they're not better than us because they're not. If we just execute at a basic level we win. None of our mistakes had anything to do with the shart talent level. None of the points we left on the field had anything to do with them. It was all us not being able to execute.

[Maverick91]

The reason I think they're not better than us because they're not. If we just execute at a basic level we win. None of our mistakes had anything to do with the shart talent level. None of the points we left on the field had anything to do with them. It was all us not being able to execute.

Facts!

They didn't beat us Thursday we beat ourselves, they didn't knock the balls down, we didn't catch the balls, or make a very easy pass, they didn't miss or block our field goals, we missed those ourselves, Leach put them boys in position and they didn't execute. They know it and will learn from it, but, I am still blistered from it.

Edit: defensively I think we would have destroyed them all game long if the refs didn't suck. Please understand when your Dline is destroying them in the manner that we were to where the only thing that they could do was hold us, we were whipping their tale. But, since the refs didn't call hardly ANY of those flagrant holds that takes the wind out of you and our boys just couldn't hang.

[StateDawg44]

Then his ass is gone.

You actually believe if Leach goes 9-3 or even 8-4 next year with one of those losses being to OM again would result in Leach being fired?