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Dawgology
11-18-2021, 12:47 PM
I see an Arkansas and Utah loss as almost inevitable so we could bump up to maybe 22 or 23 before the Egg Bowl. And if/when we win the Egg Bowl could the committee really move us into to top 20 with 4 losses?

Cowbell
11-18-2021, 12:50 PM
Let's just focus on not pulling another Memphis

yjnkdawg
11-18-2021, 12:56 PM
Let's see how we do on Saturday first, and how others teams do as well. I agree with Cowbell, looking ahead has gotten us in trouble in the past sometimes.

parabrave
11-18-2021, 01:18 PM
Lets just worry about ourselves and take care of our business.

msudawglb
11-18-2021, 01:21 PM
If we beat mississippi, we would be the only school in the top 25 with 4 wins against the top 18. 4-1 against top 18 teams will outweigh the 4 total losses. Basically, we'd be the highest ranked 4 lose team.

99jc
11-18-2021, 01:34 PM
Anyone that is even remotely worried about losing to TSU needs to get the 17 outta here.

Lord McBuckethead
11-18-2021, 01:41 PM
If we beat UM, we would have beaten NC State, aTm, Auburn, Kentucky and UM all ranked in the top 25. Most in the top 15 when we beat them. So..... Yeah, we get to maybe at best 17 at the end of week 13.

R2Dawg
11-18-2021, 01:48 PM
If we beat mississippi, we would be the only school in the top 25 with 4 wins against the top 18. 4-1 against top 18 teams will outweigh the 4 total losses. Basically, we'd be the highest ranked 4 lose team.

Yep and basically a 3 loss team with the Memphis *

Maverick91
11-18-2021, 01:51 PM
Yep and basically a 3 loss team with the Memphis *

by that metric we are a two loss team, because we got hosed in Arky.

FISHDAWG
11-18-2021, 01:54 PM
Let's see how we do on Saturday first, and how others teams do as well. I agree with Cowbell, looking ahead has gotten us in trouble in the past sometimes.

we're not players ... we're fans. How can we as fans looking ahead get the team in trouble ? ... Just for discussion it's possible to move up next week and an egg bowl win breaks the top 20 I think

R2Dawg
11-18-2021, 02:01 PM
we're not players ... we're fans. How can we as fans looking ahead get the team in trouble ? ... Just for discussion it's possible to move up next week and an egg bowl win breaks the top 20 I think

Yep, kills me how fans act like we are all in the locker room affecting looking past a team. We can discuss and overlook anyone we want to and it doesn't affect the game at all. Now the players that is a different story. Unless any ED members are current players?

PikeDawg15
11-18-2021, 02:06 PM
The coaching staff has been looking at Ole miss tape since saturday night lol

Ole miss isnt paying vandy any attention either, kiffin is also more focused on the state of florida

things that will help us

Winning the egg bowl ( would help if we beat the brakes off of them)
Arkansas losing both games
LSU beating A&M in coach o's finale
Bama beating Georgia in the sec title


The egg bowl is all that matters tho. 8-4 with an egg bowl is way beyond expectations that we had after the lsu and memphis games.

PikeDawg15
11-18-2021, 02:09 PM
If we beat UM, we would have beaten NC State, aTm, Auburn, Kentucky and UM all ranked in the top 25. Most in the top 15 when we beat them. So..... Yeah, we get to maybe at best 17 at the end of week 13.

The committee likes a&m too much, we need them to lose to lsu

R2Dawg
11-18-2021, 02:09 PM
The coaching staff has been looking at Ole miss tape since saturday night lol

Ole miss isnt paying vandy any attention either, kiffin is also more focused on the state of florida

things that will help us

Winning the egg bowl ( would help if we beat the brakes off of them)
Arkansas losing both games
LSU beating A&M in coach o's finale
Bama beating Georgia in the sec title


The egg bowl is all that matters tho. 8-4 with an egg bowl is way beyond expectations that we had after the lsu and memphis games.

Agree. It did look bleak after Memphis and LSU. I had not given up and have said many times let the season play out but progress has been made. Still got more to make but a good direction is all I wanted to see this year and at minimum get to a bowl. Mission accomplished. Everything else is cherry on top. The Egg is very important though and almost a must win since start of year.

BulldogBear
11-18-2021, 02:13 PM
If we beat mississippi, we would be the only school in the top 25 with 4 wins against the top 18. 4-1 against top 18 teams will outweigh the 4 total losses. Basically, we'd be the highest ranked 4 lose team.

This^

If we won out I'd be kind of surprised if we weren't #15

Dawgology
11-18-2021, 02:33 PM
Let's just focus on not pulling another Memphis

I doubt us talking about this will impact the teams performance Saturday haha

Tater
11-18-2021, 02:34 PM
Memphis @ 24 Houston
ISU @ 13 OU (may not jump this week, but would later)
Illinois @ 17 Iowa
21 Ark @ 2 Bama (If Ark wins then we won't jump them regardless)
Nebraska @ 15 Wisconsin
Virginia @ 18 Pitt
Syracuse @ 20 NC State
UAB @ 22 UTSA
3 Oregon @ 23 Utah (if Utah wins then we won't jump them regardless)

if any of these teams lose this week then we jump them.


Given an egg bowl win next week, teams we would jump regardless of outcome:
NC State
Houston (they aren't giving AAC teams leaving ESPN for B12 / Fox a bone)

Games we'd need a loss in to jump them:
Boise @ 19 SDSU
17 Iowa @ Nebraska (need them to lose either one)
15 Wisconsin @ Minnesota (need them to lose either one)
18 Pitt @ Syracuse (need them to lose either one)
22 UTSA @ UNT (need them to lose either one)
16 A&M @ LSU
13 OU @ 9 OSU (ou loses this one and they drop right below us)
14 BYU @ USC

UTSA, Houston, Pitt, SDSU would also fall below us if they lost their conference championship games. Wisconsin / Iowa would depend on score margin. Baylor / Okie Lite / OU would need another loss with their conf champ loss. Wake Forest would need another loss with their conference championship. Utah would need to lose to Colorado and Oregon in rematch if they win this weekend.

Most realistic scenario given we win:

Houston loses 1.
OU loses 1 and miss champ game.
Ark loses to Bama.
Iowa wins their two and stays ahead.
Wisconsin wins two, loses a respectable game in CC and stays ahead.
Pitt loses at least 1 game.
UTSA wins out.
Utah loses to Oregon this week and we stay out of jumping range if they win rematch. (Too much hype imo)
NC State doesn't matter.
BYU loses to USC
A&M beats LSU


That puts us at 18 and probably 17 with ole miss slotted 18. A&M would be about 12 in this scenario and they'd get the Sugar invite given Bama wins SECC. We'd really need the cajuns to pull that one out to put us in that seat. Or some upsets to bridge the gap so the committee looks at us together and gives us H2H nod

99jc
11-18-2021, 05:16 PM
Memphis @ 24 Houston
ISU @ 13 OU (may not jump this week, but would later)
Illinois @ 17 Iowa
21 Ark @ 2 Bama (If Ark wins then we won't jump them regardless)
Nebraska @ 15 Wisconsin
Virginia @ 18 Pitt
Syracuse @ 20 NC State
UAB @ 22 UTSA
3 Oregon @ 23 Utah (if Utah wins then we won't jump them regardless)

if any of these teams lose this week then we jump them.


Given an egg bowl win next week, teams we would jump regardless of outcome:
NC State
Houston (they aren't giving AAC teams leaving ESPN for B12 / Fox a bone)

Games we'd need a loss in to jump them:
Boise @ 19 SDSU
17 Iowa @ Nebraska (need them to lose either one)
15 Wisconsin @ Minnesota (need them to lose either one)
18 Pitt @ Syracuse (need them to lose either one)
22 UTSA @ UNT (need them to lose either one)
16 A&M @ LSU
13 OU @ 9 OSU (ou loses this one and they drop right below us)
14 BYU @ USC

UTSA, Houston, Pitt, SDSU would also fall below us if they lost their conference championship games. Wisconsin / Iowa would depend on score margin. Baylor / Okie Lite / OU would need another loss with their conf champ loss. Wake Forest would need another loss with their conference championship. Utah would need to lose to Colorado and Oregon in rematch if they win this weekend.

Most realistic scenario given we win:

Houston loses 1.
OU loses 1 and miss champ game.
Ark loses to Bama.
Iowa wins their two and stays ahead.
Wisconsin wins two, loses a respectable game in CC and stays ahead.
Pitt loses at least 1 game.
UTSA wins out.
Utah loses to Oregon this week and we stay out of jumping range if they win rematch. (Too much hype imo)
NC State doesn't matter.
BYU loses to USC
A&M beats LSU


That puts us at 18 and probably 17 with ole miss slotted 18. A&M would be about 12 in this scenario and they'd get the Sugar invite given Bama wins SECC. We'd really need the cajuns to pull that one out to put us in that seat. Or some upsets to bridge the gap so the committee looks at us together and gives us H2H nod

Man some of you have too much time on your hands. wish i did!

Tater
11-18-2021, 07:25 PM
Man some of you have too much time on your hands. wish i did!

mississippi state education got me a job that paid me well to do that from my work computer.

LC Dawg
11-18-2021, 07:51 PM
The Arkansas loss was a big loss for us. The committee had us ranked 17 with 3 losses and they took some grief for that. We screwed ourselves by not backing them up. If we had won that game we would have a chance of winning out and moving up maybe as high as 10.

PikeDawg15
11-18-2021, 09:28 PM
The Arkansas loss was a big loss for us. The committee had us ranked 17 with 3 losses and they took some grief for that. We screwed ourselves by not backing them up. If we had won that game we would have a chance of winning out and moving up maybe as high as 10.

We should have won?.

But a lot of people do not ever talk about it but , Arkansas is actually really good this year

They are a 2 point conversion and drawing anyone but Georgia from the east away from being a 1 loss team right now .

Dawgology
11-18-2021, 10:14 PM
Memphis @ 24 Houston
ISU @ 13 OU (may not jump this week, but would later)
Illinois @ 17 Iowa
21 Ark @ 2 Bama (If Ark wins then we won't jump them regardless)
Nebraska @ 15 Wisconsin
Virginia @ 18 Pitt
Syracuse @ 20 NC State
UAB @ 22 UTSA
3 Oregon @ 23 Utah (if Utah wins then we won't jump them regardless)

if any of these teams lose this week then we jump them.


Given an egg bowl win next week, teams we would jump regardless of outcome:
NC State
Houston (they aren't giving AAC teams leaving ESPN for B12 / Fox a bone)

Games we'd need a loss in to jump them:
Boise @ 19 SDSU
17 Iowa @ Nebraska (need them to lose either one)
15 Wisconsin @ Minnesota (need them to lose either one)
18 Pitt @ Syracuse (need them to lose either one)
22 UTSA @ UNT (need them to lose either one)
16 A&M @ LSU
13 OU @ 9 OSU (ou loses this one and they drop right below us)
14 BYU @ USC

UTSA, Houston, Pitt, SDSU would also fall below us if they lost their conference championship games. Wisconsin / Iowa would depend on score margin. Baylor / Okie Lite / OU would need another loss with their conf champ loss. Wake Forest would need another loss with their conference championship. Utah would need to lose to Colorado and Oregon in rematch if they win this weekend.

Most realistic scenario given we win:

Houston loses 1.
OU loses 1 and miss champ game.
Ark loses to Bama.
Iowa wins their two and stays ahead.
Wisconsin wins two, loses a respectable game in CC and stays ahead.
Pitt loses at least 1 game.
UTSA wins out.
Utah loses to Oregon this week and we stay out of jumping range if they win rematch. (Too much hype imo)
NC State doesn't matter.
BYU loses to USC
A&M beats LSU


That puts us at 18 and probably 17 with ole miss slotted 18. A&M would be about 12 in this scenario and they'd get the Sugar invite given Bama wins SECC. We'd really need the cajuns to pull that one out to put us in that seat. Or some upsets to bridge the gap so the committee looks at us together and gives us H2H nod

This was the quality input I was looking for! Thanks!