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TrapGame
11-12-2021, 09:46 AM
https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/florida-football/south-carolina-loss-opened-up-the-conversation-for-firing-dan-mullen-per-report/

Pete Thamel says just firing Hev and Grantham was not enough. The performance of the team in the next three games will decide the future of Dan Mullen at Florida.

And Dan says it was "his" idea to fire Hev and Grantham. There was "no outside pressure". GTFOH with that Dan.

Cooterpoot
11-12-2021, 09:52 AM
Dan is done. There's no way around that and Scott knows his job is on the line if he drags it out.
He should've fired Gonzales too. Ive decided Scott is scared of Mullen.

Coach34
11-12-2021, 10:04 AM
Dan is done. There's no way around that and Scott knows his job is on the line if he drags it out.
He should've fired Gonzales too. Ive decided Scott is scared of Mullen.

I'd be surprised if they got rid of the cheerleader. He was hired to handle the day to day workings of AD- not to make any big important decisions. Foley and Spurrier still handle most of that.

MetEdDawg
11-12-2021, 10:11 AM
If they win out I'm not convinced Dan goes.

He would still go 8-5 and I think that would be enough to keep him.

Next year they start off Utah, Kentucky, USF, and @Tennessee. That might decide whether or not he's still the coach at UF.

PikeDawg15
11-12-2021, 10:15 AM
The fan hates him and knows its not going to work.

They want top 5 recruiting classes. Dan not a recruiter.

They want sec championships. Dan cant win the big one.

I also think they will lose another game. I do not think that mullen is the coach at florida for the season opener.

Totally shocked he wasnt fired after getting destroyed by south carolina...

I think they are only holding on to him because they want to beat florida state and dont want to throw the season already and lose to them

I think they will lose to FSU either way.

Leroy Jenkins
11-12-2021, 10:22 AM
Dan will be gone, but it won't be because loafers fires him. The actual decision makers will be the ones to cut Dan loose.

FISHDAWG
11-12-2021, 10:25 AM
Hey Dan ..... We told you so

lastmajordog
11-12-2021, 10:40 AM
del

DownwardDawg
11-12-2021, 10:41 AM
Hey Dan ..... We told you so

Yep!!

ShotgunDawg
11-12-2021, 10:59 AM
If they win out I'm not convinced Dan goes.

He would still go 8-5 and I think that would be enough to keep him.

Next year they start off Utah, Kentucky, USF, and @Tennessee. That might decide whether or not he's still the coach at UF.

That trip to Mizzou looms large & they've got Crime Dawg running the defense. Cringe

TrapGame
11-12-2021, 11:06 AM
That trip to Mizzou looms large & they've got Crime Dawg running the defense. Cringe

I would not be surprised they get into a 50+ point shootout with Mizzou. And win by less than a TD.

Florida State is going to beat them.

Maverick91
11-12-2021, 11:14 AM
I gave him 5 years, I think most in touch State fans did the same. We all knew he would look good for the first couple of years and then things would unravel. They better beat the breaks off of Samford tomorrow, like 6 touchdowns to make the fans seem like they have a pulse.

Cooterpoot
11-12-2021, 11:32 AM
I'd be surprised if they got rid of the cheerleader. He was hired to handle the day to day workings of AD- not to make any big important decisions. Foley and Spurrier still handle most of that.

He's the fall guy. I think Mullen knows he can go somewhere else. He might not want leave because of his kid, but OC at J'ville could be a possibility.

WinningIsRelentless
11-12-2021, 12:26 PM
He's the fall guy. I think Mullen knows he can go somewhere else. He might not want leave because of his kid, but OC at J'ville could be a possibility.

Scott is a deadman walking. Football issues basketball issues and baseball coach issues.

Commercecomet24
11-12-2021, 01:16 PM
If Dan loses one more game or even comes close he's done(maybe done anyway). Most of us on here with any sense said he'd last 4-5 years. It was just to predictable

Johnson85
11-12-2021, 01:30 PM
If they win out I'm not convinced Dan goes.

He would still go 8-5 and I think that would be enough to keep him.

Next year they start off Utah, Kentucky, USF, and @Tennessee. That might decide whether or not he's still the coach at UF.

I think he needs to win out and also look good in each game. If he struggles to get past any of the three remaining regular season games or comes out looking unprepared in the bowl game, I think the recruiting struggles will kill him. Florida fans and boosters are never going to be happy with Dan's recruiting, so if he doesn't consistently have his team prepared and looking like a well coached team, they aren't going to see much reason to keep him. I think it shows how much credibility he has that he hasn't been canned already with his recruiting combined with the latest slide.

confucius say
11-12-2021, 01:43 PM
Counter point: Dan has been to a NY6 bowl in his first 3 years and has recruited at a top 10 clip, which I believe is as good as his two predecessors. If he goes 8-4 in a down year and they get rid of him, I'm not sure who they think is going to do better that they can actually get seeing as though they had trouble hiring the last time.

Maroonthirteen
11-12-2021, 02:03 PM
Counter point: Dan has been to a NY6 bowl in his first 3 years and has recruited at a top 10 clip, which I believe is as good as his two predecessors. If he goes 8-4 in a down year and they get rid of him, I'm not sure who they think is going to do better that they can actually get seeing as though they had trouble hiring the last time.

Yeah, I don't get why his seat is beyond warm at this date. CD basically said to give Mullen more time on the OutOfBounds. So, I am not sure how warm Mullen's seat is from those with the power to ignite a fire or is if this all media driven for clicks. You would have to think the cooler heads in Gainesville recall Zook, Muschamp and McElwain and Mullen gets another year.

With that said, Mullen's personality is never going to endear him to the majority of the fan base. However he can have that program at their historical average if they allow him. He will never win at UF like Spurrier and Meyer did but I am not sure many others can either.

sleepy dawg
11-12-2021, 02:09 PM
It's blazing hot. He could be gone any minute. He certainly needs to start winning asap and recruiting better. He can afford 0 slips of anything right now.

PikeDawg15
11-12-2021, 02:17 PM
Counter point: Dan has been to a NY6 bowl in his first 3 years and has recruited at a top 10 clip, which I believe is as good as his two predecessors. If he goes 8-4 in a down year and they get rid of him, I'm not sure who they think is going to do better that they can actually get seeing as though they had trouble hiring the last time.

we have that mississippi state mindset.

Florida expects a lot more than NY6 bowls.

Maverick91
11-12-2021, 02:18 PM
I think that the Bama game was the breaking point. Mullen wanted bama put his best foot forward there and lost, and didnt care afterword.

BrunswickDawg
11-12-2021, 03:13 PM
UGA flipping two UF commits in two days ain't gonna help - https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/32614578/georgia-bulldogs-flip-another-former-florida-gators-commitment-gaining-pledge-espn-300-cornerback-julian-humphrey

Maverick91
11-12-2021, 03:24 PM
UGA flipping two UF commits in two days ain't gonna help - https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/32614578/georgia-bulldogs-flip-another-former-florida-gators-commitment-gaining-pledge-espn-300-cornerback-julian-humphrey

I think if we flipped one recruit they would fire him on the spot. lol

Lance Harbor
11-12-2021, 03:38 PM
Since Spurrier, no coach has lasted 4 complete seasons except for Urban Meyer. There ain't no patience in the Swamp. Spurrier spoiled those MFers.



https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/florida-football/south-carolina-loss-opened-up-the-conversation-for-firing-dan-mullen-per-report/

Pete Thamel says just firing Hev and Grantham was not enough. The performance of the team in the next three games will decide the future of Dan Mullen at Florida.

And Dan says it was "his" idea to fire Hev and Grantham. There was "no outside pressure". GTFOH with that Dan.

trob115
11-12-2021, 03:46 PM
Realistically, what should Florida's expectations be? I don't think Dan is that far off. His lack of showing an interest in recruiting, brash personality, and overall stubbornness definitely doesn't help him in the fan relationship.

I think we all could see this fallout coming the day he was hired.

BrunswickDawg
11-12-2021, 04:01 PM
Realistically, what should Florida's expectations be? I don't think Dan is that far off. His lack of showing an interest in recruiting, brash personality, and overall stubbornness definitely doesn't help him in the fan relationship.

I think we all could see this fallout coming the day he was hired.

Realistically, with the SEC East the way it is currently, UF should be undefeated every year going into The Cocktail Party. No one else in the east should be a threat, and the UGA game should be a knock-down, drag out brawl for the east title. Period. Anything less than that and Florida is underachieving. The only exception would be this year with Bama on the schedule. If UF was 7-2 right now with a 2 point loss to Bama and a close game against UGA there is no heat right now. If they had the 2 point Bama loss and still had the 34-7 let down against UGA, they are grumbling a bit, but winning out would cure a lot.

ETA: I forgot that LSU is their permanent West opponent. So I'll add that the LSU game is like the Cocktail party in that it is their only other make or break game.
Dan is 2-8 against both combined - that keeps you in the dog house with UF fans, and makes seasons like this firable.

SPMT
11-12-2021, 04:01 PM
If Dan loses one more game or even comes close he's done(maybe done anyway). Most of us on here with any sense said he'd last 4-5 years. It was just to predictable

Yep.

He?s done.

Percho
11-12-2021, 04:09 PM
I think that the Bama game was the breaking point. Mullen wanted bama put his best foot forward there and lost, and didnt care afterword.

Modus operandi

starkvegasdawg
11-12-2021, 04:46 PM
Counter point: Dan has been to a NY6 bowl in his first 3 years and has recruited at a top 10 clip, which I believe is as good as his two predecessors. If he goes 8-4 in a down year and they get rid of him, I'm not sure who they think is going to do better that they can actually get seeing as though they had trouble hiring the last time.

He's doing as well as his two predecessors...you mean the last two former coaches? If it wasn't good enough for them why would it be for Mullen?

Johnson85
11-12-2021, 05:12 PM
Counter point: Dan has been to a NY6 bowl in his first 3 years and has recruited at a top 10 clip, which I believe is as good as his two predecessors. If he goes 8-4 in a down year and they get rid of him, I'm not sure who they think is going to do better that they can actually get seeing as though they had trouble hiring the last time.

They are not going to get a prospect that looks better than Dan did coming in. But his predecessors that he is doing as well as got fired. And I'm not sure either of them were as unlikeable as Mullen. My understanding is that McElwain (sp) was weird, but I don't know that his reputation was being an ass hole. All that to say, they probably won't do better, but that doesn't mean they're going to accept Mullen's performance. I think they'd be willing to give him some slack if he didn't say shit to piss them off.

They probably do have unrealistic expectations, but if Mullen gets fired, it won't be for his overall record. It will be for the way they have fallen off a cliff. I can get the concern that eh came in with a reputation for being a poor recruiter, and he immediately made other people's recruits pretty good, but right when he should be getting his players in and building up to a peak to compete with UGA consistently, they have fallen apart and looked like shit a good bit.

Activated Alpha
11-12-2021, 05:46 PM
17 em. They both can suck tomatoe paste out of a hobo's ass for all I care...

Commercecomet24
11-12-2021, 05:51 PM
Dan is 4-8 in his last 12 games and the team absolutely looks like they have quit on him. While he may have a similar record to his predecessors I don't believe they ever had a stretch that bad. Add that to his pissing off everyone in blue and orange with his attitude( which we all knew would happen) and you've got a recipe for disaster

WhiskeyPirate
11-12-2021, 06:03 PM
Florida fans are spoiled @holes, they are like UCLA fans in basketball.

Dan is toast. That?s a tough crowd they want a flashy hire big recruiter. FSU is pretty similar, they hired a good coach but he probably won?t be given enough time.

Catfish
11-12-2021, 06:21 PM
Florida fans are spoiled @holes, they are like UCLA fans in basketball.

Dan is toast. That?s a tough crowd they want a flashy hire big recruiter. FSU is pretty similar, they hired a good coach but he probably won?t be given enough time.

Manny Diaz is in the same boat, and it's sinking fast.

yjnkdawg
11-12-2021, 07:12 PM
Counter point: Dan has been to a NY6 bowl in his first 3 years and has recruited at a top 10 clip, which I believe is as good as his two predecessors. If he goes 8-4 in a down year and they get rid of him, I'm not sure who they think is going to do better that they can actually get seeing as though they had trouble hiring the last time.

The Bull Gators don't go for this down year stuff or rebuilding. They expect their football program to reload like Bama and GA. Spurrier had been upset on some stuff way before this season blew up. He even said on this year's losses , the main problem was they could not tackle.

yjnkdawg
11-12-2021, 07:18 PM
Well, supposedly Mullen told the ones he was interviewing for his initial staff to come on with me and we will go to a few bowl games, and then we will move on to a real football school. One assistant coach he interviewed didn't care for the way MSU was being put down and refused his offer. Well, if that's the case they made it to that real football school, but the stove was too hot and apparently all will get burned.

BogeyGolfer
11-12-2021, 07:35 PM
If they win out he will be the coach next year ? They just gave him an extension in June. It would be dumb to fire him after this season. He?s a heck of a coach and teams like Florida overreact and that?s why they can?t win consistently?

WhiskeyPirate
11-12-2021, 08:11 PM
I think given a good staff/recruiters Mullen would do well at Florida if given time.
How freaking hard is it to recruit to UF ? Shouldn’t be very hard.

I think manny Diaz is in over his head.

1bigdawg
11-13-2021, 09:25 AM
He is doing almost as well as the last two coaches - both of whom were fired.

OLJWales
11-13-2021, 09:40 AM
Since Spurrier, no coach has lasted 4 complete seasons except for Urban Meyer. There ain't no patience in the Swamp. Spurrier spoiled those MFers.

Wow. None? Damn. That may splain things.

Maverick91
11-13-2021, 09:58 AM
Since Spurrier, no coach has lasted 4 complete seasons except for Urban Meyer. There ain't no patience in the Swamp. Spurrier spoiled those MFers.

So what you are saying is the same thing will happen to bama after Saban?

Schultzy
11-13-2021, 10:27 AM
Maybe being HC or AD at MSU isn’t such a bad gig after all.

Apoplectic
11-13-2021, 10:27 AM
The fan hates him and knows its not going to work.

They want top 5 recruiting classes. Dan not a recruiter.

They want sec championships. Dan cant win the big one.

I also think they will lose another game. I do not think that mullen is the coach at florida for the season opener.

Totally shocked he wasnt fired after getting destroyed by south carolina...

I think they are only holding on to him because they want to beat florida state and dont want to throw the season already and lose to them

I think they will lose to FSU either way.

He?ll lose at miz and the carryover will lead to a FSU loss

QuadrupleOption
11-13-2021, 11:15 AM
Yeah, I don't get why his seat is beyond warm at this date. CD basically said to give Mullen more time on the OutOfBounds. So, I am not sure how warm Mullen's seat is from those with the power to ignite a fire or is if this all media driven for clicks. You would have to think the cooler heads in Gainesville recall Zook, Muschamp and McElwain and Mullen gets another year.

With that said, Mullen's personality is never going to endear him to the majority of the fan base. However he can have that program at their historical average if they allow him. He will never win at UF like Spurrier and Meyer did but I am not sure many others can either.

McElwain won two division titles and got fired the year after that. Florida fans are as entitled as every other 'blue blood' fan base and don't consider 10 win seasons or division titles a big deal. Hell they wanted Urban gone at the end and he'd won 2 nattys.

That program's players seem to have entitlement issues as well, as they lay down every time things get hard for them. I think Dan's done - maybe not this year but most likely next.

I said back in 2017 when he took that job he was an idiot for doing so. I know they pay more, but before taking a job these days you HAVE to look at the turnover rate at these places. In my opinion Tennessee and Florida are toxic as Hell. There's no way any coach with half a brain should take a job there.

DownwardDawg
11-13-2021, 11:43 AM
McElwain won two division titles and got fired the year after that. Florida fans are as entitled as every other 'blue blood' fan base and don't consider 10 win seasons or division titles a big deal. Hell they wanted Urban gone at the end and he'd won 2 nattys.

That program's players seem to have entitlement issues as well, as they lay down every time things get hard for them. I think Dan's done - maybe not this year but most likely next.

I said back in 2017 when he took that job he was an idiot for doing so. I know they pay more, but before taking a job these days you HAVE to look at the turnover rate at these places. In my opinion Tennessee and Florida are toxic as Hell. There's no way any coach with half a brain should take a job there.

Most of us said the same. He must have hated Starkville and really wanted out. He could have coached here 20 years at 6+ million per year.

OLJWales
11-13-2021, 12:18 PM
Maybe being HC or AD at MSU isn’t such a bad gig after all.

Yep.

Joebob
11-13-2021, 01:51 PM
It's blazing hot. He could be gone any minute. He certainly needs to start winning asap and recruiting better. He can afford 0 slips of anything right now.

"Any minute" is literally the truth. The way they're playing against Samford right now, Mullen may not make it to the end of the quarter.