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Apoplectic
11-01-2021, 11:53 AM
does he get another head coaching job at a directional school or saban OC?

Coach34
11-01-2021, 11:55 AM
Mullen will get another P5 job immediately after being let go.

BulldogDX55
11-01-2021, 12:10 PM
does he get another head coaching job at a directional school or saban OC?

Second tier P5 School.

That TCU opening would work nicely for him.

PGHBulldogBG
11-01-2021, 12:15 PM
He will only get fired if he refuses to cut Grantham and Hevesy. I don?t think ******* loyalty to them would be that much if he knows it?s his only chance at keeping his job. I actually think Mullen is more cut out for a 2nd tier p5 job than a blue blood because he could win 7-9 games a year and be set for life, but his ego is too big to realize that

MaroonFlounder
11-01-2021, 12:21 PM
Dan needs to go NFL asst. or coordinator. He cannot recruit to win in college. Kirby told him so.

Cowbell
11-01-2021, 12:23 PM
Florida can't do better than Mullen. College football fans have become delusional - it's not like there are great proven Head coaches out there looking for a job. There are a handful of great coaches and then much larger group of above average coaches that are on about the same level and Mullen is in that group. Freeze is about the only guy they could get.

Hot Rock
11-01-2021, 12:34 PM
I think Mullen is as good a coach as anyone. What he has not done is recruit with the best. You cannot win a national championship without both and that is Florida's goal.

Can they do better? Yes, but it's not likely. i think they would be better served changing defenses and get a new DC.

Some Blanket NIL deals will solve all that mess with the OL because Hevesy can coach, Grantham's defense though, can cost you big time. My two cents worth.

Todd4State
11-01-2021, 12:41 PM
Florida can't do better than Mullen. College football fans have become delusional - it's not like there are great proven Head coaches out there looking for a job. There are a handful of great coaches and then much larger group of above average coaches that are on about the same level and Mullen is in that group. Freeze is about the only guy they could get.

They could get Kiffin.

Todd4State
11-01-2021, 12:43 PM
I think Mullen is as good a coach as anyone. What he has not done is recruit with the best. You cannot win a national championship without both and that is Florida's goal.

Can they do better? Yes, but it's not likely. i think they would be better served changing defenses and get a new DC.

Some Blanket NIL deals will solve all that mess with the OL because Hevesy can coach, Grantham's defense though, can cost you big time. My two cents worth.

He needs a recruiting coordinator that literally does everything for him. And tells him to not be an ass around the recruits.

Cowbell
11-01-2021, 12:44 PM
They could get Kiffin.

Lateral move at best for Florida

Coach34
11-01-2021, 12:46 PM
Florida can't do better than Mullen. College football fans have become delusional - it's not like there are great proven Head coaches out there looking for a job. There are a handful of great coaches and then much larger group of above average coaches that are on about the same level and Mullen is in that group. Freeze is about the only guy they could get.

Mullen's problem is and always will be his lack of recruiting salesmanship. He and the Country Club struggle to pull top tier known talent. They just cant pull it. Their personalities get in the way. Chris Jones and Jeffrey Simmons were done for him- not by him. Had they not been from Mississippi they would not have ended up at State.

He does a great job of finding underrated HS talent he doesnt have to win big recruiting battles for. Developing the late bloomers. However, that doesnt fly at Florida.

BeardoMSU
11-01-2021, 12:49 PM
Lateral move at best for Florida

As you said, tho...there just aren't any top tier guys out there for them. I bed Kiffin would excite their fans.

R2Dawg
11-01-2021, 12:52 PM
Florida can't do better than Mullen. College football fans have become delusional - it's not like there are great proven Head coaches out there looking for a job. There are a handful of great coaches and then much larger group of above average coaches that are on about the same level and Mullen is in that group. Freeze is about the only guy they could get.

Tend to agree with this. Other than Urban look at last 20 years of coaches there - Zook, Urban, Muschamp, Mcelwayne, Mullen, etc. Good but not great coaches. Last 30 years at MSU - Jackie, Croom, Mullen, Moorhead, Leach. That is on par with UF except Urban's tenure even though we beat them in Gainsville. Think about that.

confucius say
11-01-2021, 12:56 PM
He's been to a NY6 bowl each of his three years at Florida.

He likely will go 8-4 this year in what is perceived to be a down year. He's not getting fired this year or anytime soon.

BrunswickDawg
11-01-2021, 12:57 PM
Dan Mullen's SEC W/L % at UF is now LOWER than Ron Zooks - .656 to .667
And Sharkman Mcilwain is at .666

Dangerous territory for ol' Danny Two-Gloves

Apoplectic
11-01-2021, 01:02 PM
Dan Mullen's SEC W/L % at UF is now LOWER than Ron Zooks - .656 to .667
And Sharkman Mcilwain is at .666

Dangerous territory for ol' Danny Two-Gloves

Think about this: the pirate has a better record with better wins with a SO QB

calidawg
11-01-2021, 01:09 PM
MSU and Mullen were a perfect match. Mullen ego couldn't understand that. When he's eventually fired at Florida he'll land at an equivalent MSU level school where he can get back to raising the floor and focusing on developing under the radar talent and producing 10 win seasons every 4 years or so.. He can't compete at the top because he is not a top recruiter and never will be, plain and simple

Hot Rock
11-01-2021, 02:21 PM
I pretty think we all are saying the same thing. Mullen = good coach but he is not a great recruiter.

His best case scenario was a place like Mississippi State that will allow some bad performances or the NFL as an OC. Does his game translate to the NFL? I think it could.

TrapGame
11-01-2021, 02:25 PM
I think Mullen likes running the show. I don't think he's going to the NFL as an OC. If he can get a look as HC then he'll take it if offered. When Florida cans him he'll wind up at another middle tier P5 program. I wouldn't be surprised if Sexton isn't talking to TCU right now. His days at Florida are numbered.

Cowbell
11-01-2021, 02:56 PM
You guys seen this?!
https://twitter.com/dayneyoung/status/1455223370031767558?s=20

TrapGame
11-01-2021, 03:05 PM
You guys seen this?!
https://twitter.com/dayneyoung/status/1455223370031767558?s=20

And that's why we whiffed on some studs while Mullen was here. As previously reported T Buck was totally floored at how Mullen and the CC handled recruiting. It was an afterthought to them.

BeardoMSU
11-01-2021, 03:22 PM
You guys seen this?!
https://twitter.com/dayneyoung/status/1455223370031767558?s=20

But yeah, it was MSU and Starkville's fault Dan couldn't recruit at a high level, lol. The guy is clueless.

Johnson85
11-01-2021, 03:58 PM
Mullen will get another P5 job immediately after being let go.

He probably will, but he shouldn't. He needs to step away and see if he likes coaching college enough to start pretending to like recruiting and/or if he hates recruiting enough that he's willing to be an assistant in the NFL.

99jc
11-01-2021, 04:01 PM
Mullen will get another P5 job immediately after being let go.

I will add this he will have another P5 Job BEFORE he is let go.

parabrave
11-01-2021, 04:09 PM
Well maybe AJ Btown was more truthful about mullen than we wanted to know.

FISHDAWG
11-01-2021, 04:56 PM
Maybe they are going after Urban again ... long shot but who knows

FISHDAWG
11-01-2021, 05:03 PM
You guys seen this?!
https://twitter.com/dayneyoung/status/1455223370031767558?s=20

Wow ... I'm sure that's what his fan base really wanted to hear

memsu06
11-01-2021, 09:19 PM
Mullen could have had a statue out front if he stayed here. He would have done really well with that 2018 team he left high and dry.

Grass was greener in FL he thought.

I bet Bama would be glad to have him as an OC. Then in a couple of years he could bounce to another blue blood school looking for a head coach.

Cowbell
11-01-2021, 09:28 PM
Mullen could have had a statue out front if he stayed here. He would have done really well with that 2018 team he left high and dry.

Grass was greener in FL he thought.

I bet Bama would be glad to have him as an OC. Then in a couple of years he could bounce to another blue blood school looking for a head coach.

He was looking for easier. He could have won a natty here if he was willing to work for it but he decided the work was too much and that there would be easier place to attract top tier talent. What he failed to realize is that you still have to put the work in at these places to meet expectations and that has caught up to him. That along with all the bridges he has burnt with assistants.

yjnkdawg
11-01-2021, 10:05 PM
When Mullen took our head coaching job, he wasn't planning on staying here. He wanted to be the HC at what he called a "football school". He didn't consider MSU as one. Now he has his so-called football school and he is in not hot but scalding water. He seems pretty safe for this year, but the Bull Gators aren't going to tolerate another year like this one. Sexton will get him another P5 head coaching gig though if he can't turn the FL program around. FL's recruiting class is rated by 247 as 9th in the SEC currently, and that ain't gonna get it.

SPMT
11-01-2021, 10:23 PM
Mullen's problem is and always will be his lack of recruiting salesmanship. He and the Country Club struggle to pull top tier known talent. They just cant pull it. Their personalities get in the way. Chris Jones and Jeffrey Simmons were done for him- not by him. Had they not been from Mississippi they would not have ended up at State.

He does a great job of finding underrated HS talent he doesnt have to win big recruiting battles for. Developing the late bloomers. However, that doesnt fly at Florida.

If you?ve been around them for any extended period of time you will see quickly, they are cocks.

Brewster was a prototypical salesman/recruiter. Manny too.

Mullen to the NFL like some mention, I don?t get. They will 1. Hate him and, 2. I do t see him being unique or quick to adjust, which will be a detriment to NFL OC. Maybe as OC he is less conservative?.

BoomBoom
11-01-2021, 10:51 PM
I pretty think we all are saying the same thing. Mullen = good coach but he is not a great recruiter.

His best case scenario was a place like Mississippi State that will allow some bad performances or the NFL as an OC. Does his game translate to the NFL? I think it could.

Nah, Mullen is incompatible with the NFL. Mullen runs a seasons long program. He does not adjust for individual opponents. He doesn't have the motor for it.

Ezsoil
11-02-2021, 07:31 AM
Don't forget that Dan is under some NCAA scrutiny as well....https://theathletic.com/news/florida-recruiting-dan-mullen/y3d0ZLchdlbT/

He got us on probation when he was here ..

Santiago
11-02-2021, 07:42 AM
Mullen seems to be a better fit as a Big Ten coach. But not a top tier school.

ShotgunDawg
11-02-2021, 08:11 AM
Dan is a really good football coach, but falls into the Gary Patterson, Mike Gundy, Chris Peterson, Bobby Petrino, Kyle Whittingham group of coaches that are really good but aren't recruiters.

90% of schools would love to have this group of coaches, but you'll never win big with them because they simply don't are enough about recruiting.

The natty group of coaches fight it out in the streets for players

TrapGame
11-02-2021, 08:38 AM
Donny will be gone if he loses to FSU this year.

Maverick91
11-02-2021, 08:57 AM
Don't forget that Dan is under some NCAA scrutiny as well....https://theathletic.com/news/florida-recruiting-dan-mullen/y3d0ZLchdlbT/

He got us on probation when he was here ..

It is really annoying that probation doesn't follow the coach. It was under his watch! Unless they prove that it was athdep wide it really should just sit at the head coaches table, if he leaves the depending on the severity and width of the issue the probation should leave the school as well.

R2Dawg
11-02-2021, 12:05 PM
He's been to a NY6 bowl each of his three years at Florida.

He likely will go 8-4 this year in what is perceived to be a down year. He's not getting fired this year or anytime soon.

Didn't Mcelwain (SP) win SECE two years in a row and get fired? UF got different expectations and are out of touch kinda like OM.

Apoplectic
11-02-2021, 12:13 PM
Donny will be gone if he loses to FSU this year.

And FSU is starting to figure it out.

If they sleep on games at USC and Miz he may not make it to FSU

thf24
11-02-2021, 12:25 PM
At a bare minimum, after the season he's going to have some hard ultimatums leveled on him pertaining to recruiting expectations and immediate changes in that department. After the unfolding PR fiasco, there is zero chance it doesn't come to that. And I could easily see his arrogant ass telling them to get bent, walking or forcing them to fire him, at which point he'll take the best job that'll have him and immediately resume better job hunting.

If he doesn't win out, though, I think there's a strong chance he doesn't even make it to the table to have that conversation.

Prior to the past few days I would have said he's probably safe barring a complete collapse or off-the-field scandal, but I think the press conference snafu seriously changed things. You don't make a decision to cancel all your media availability for the rest of the season lightly.

PikeDawg15
11-02-2021, 12:32 PM
Donny will be gone if he loses to FSU this year.

Florida State is gonna win. Book it.

TrapGame
11-02-2021, 12:36 PM
At a bare minimum, after the season he's going to have some hard ultimatums leveled on him pertaining to recruiting expectations and immediate changes in that department.

When Cohen had that talk with him he found another job. I wonder how it's going to go over now.

PikeDawg15
11-02-2021, 12:36 PM
And FSU is starting to figure it out.

If they sleep on games at USC and Miz he may not make it to FSU

I would love to see it but South Carolina and Missouri are piss poor football teams.

Florida state will beat Florida

FSU hasn't won since Dan got to Florida.... They gonna want it bad this year and they finally finding their grove, them and miami.

TrapGame
11-02-2021, 01:22 PM
I would love to see it but South Carolina and Missouri are piss poor football teams.

Florida state will beat Florida

FSU hasn't won since Dan got to Florida.... They gonna want it bad this year and they finally finding their grove, them and miami.

Florida State is killing it on the recruiting trail. Norvell is running circles around Mullen in Florida. That ain't gonna cut it w/ the Gator fans.

PGHBulldogBG
11-02-2021, 01:46 PM
Florida State is improving but they still have a long way to go. I don?t see them beating UF this year. It might be another story next year though. Their recruiting is improving at a much higher rate than UF and that has to worry Dan. If Norvell shows he can coach up the talent he is getting FSU will move back to the top of the conference by 2023 season

Apoplectic
11-02-2021, 03:27 PM
Florida State is improving but they still have a long way to go. I don?t see them beating UF this year. It might be another story next year though. Their recruiting is improving at a much higher rate than UF and that has to worry Dan. If Norvell shows he can coach up the talent he is getting FSU will move back to the top of the conference by 2023 season


With the distractions this week they could mail it in at USC. Jr has a lot of energy on campus and this is just the game to save his season.

Another thought: how much would they have to pay Coach O to save ******* recruiting? I can see it now - interim coach O middle of next season.

TrapGame
11-02-2021, 03:57 PM
With the distractions this week they could mail it in at USC. Jr has a lot of energy on campus and this is just the game to save his season.

Another thought: how much would they have to pay Coach O to save ******* recruiting? I can see it now - interim coach O middle of next season.

If Shane Beamer out coaches Mullen all holy hell with bust loose in Gainesville. Donny is toast if that happens.

Hot Rock
11-02-2021, 04:13 PM
Per 247 Sports

Last year's class had Florida at 12th and FSU at 22nd.

This year? It's a long way to go before signing day but they have about flipflopped with FSU at 13 and Florida at 22. One can say FSU is kicking their ass but:

There is the fact that FSU has 3 more recruits and 1 less Blue Chip (4-5 star) in this year's class. It's not like Florida can't close the gap or even surpass them. Either way they have more team talent right now. Florida is sitting at #7 and FSU at 20.

There is a wide gap between them team talent wise. Gators have 6 five stars and 50 four stars as compared to FSU with no five stars and 29 four stars. FSU can recruit at a top ten level as well. They just have not done so lately.

Mullen needs to win out. He will be given the opportunity to put together a solid class and get another year. Next year will be a different story. He better not go 8-4 next year.

Todd4State
11-02-2021, 04:33 PM
Mullen could have had a statue out front if he stayed here. He would have done really well with that 2018 team he left high and dry.

Grass was greener in FL he thought.

I bet Bama would be glad to have him as an OC. Then in a couple of years he could bounce to another blue blood school looking for a head coach.

Alabama is not going to hire him as their OC where they run Bryce Young 15 times a game.

PGHBulldogBG
11-02-2021, 05:06 PM
South Carolina, Missouri, an FCS school and FSU is all UF has left. If he loses to any of those 4 this year that is really bad. FSU is the best of the bunch and they have their own issues at 3-5 in the ACC. 8-4 is disappointing enough at UF but if he goes 7-5 I could see him needing to win at least 10 next year to keep his job. He will be fired if he pulls the unthinkable and loses to both of these teams. If he wins out he will need to at least show improvement winning 9 games and a bowl game next year. That?s the way I see it