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Lord McBuckethead
10-30-2021, 03:13 PM
They were moving the ball running it, now they pissed away 3 plays. No idea.

Lord McBuckethead
10-30-2021, 03:14 PM
Jace Christmas misses FG.

Vandownbytheriver
10-30-2021, 03:16 PM
Watching Gameday and Desmond was talking about what a great offensive coach he is especially when making in game adjustments. Not sure where he's seen that. If it didn't work, Dan just keeps putting the square peg in the round hole.

parabrave
10-30-2021, 03:30 PM
Watching Gameday and Desmond was talking about what a great offensive coach he is especially when making in game adjustments. Not sure where he's seen that. If it didn't work, Dan just keeps putting the square peg in the round hole.

Is he still running Hollaway up the middle?

Cooterpoot
10-30-2021, 03:33 PM
Watching Gameday and Desmond was talking about what a great offensive coach he is especially when making in game adjustments. Not sure where he's seen that. If it didn't work, Dan just keeps putting the square peg in the round hole.

No he doesn't. Dan Mullen is a tremendous offensive coach. The guy just struggles to recruit and refuses to hire guys around him that can make up for it.
He could go be an NFL OC tomorrow and be good.

Apoplectic
10-30-2021, 03:34 PM
When Mullin loses to uga and we upset uk- we?ll both be 4-4 with us having wins over three top 20 teams and don with a win over UT.

Can someone give me a status update on the program if this plays out?

Vandownbytheriver
10-30-2021, 03:41 PM
No he doesn't. Dan Mullen is a tremendous offensive coach. The guy just struggles to recruit and refuses to hire guys around him that can make up for it.
He could go be an NFL OC tomorrow and be good.
When he was at State he made little to no adjustments and caught lightening in a bottle with Dak. His ego sure as hell doesn't match his results. He's a decent coach, but he's not an offensive savant like some like to claim. He's had the benefit of Tim Tebow and Dak to make him look good.

BeardoMSU
10-30-2021, 03:43 PM
When Mullin loses to uga and we upset uk- we?ll both be 4-4 with us having wins over three top 20 teams and don with a win over UT.

Can someone give me a status update on the program if this plays out?

We would be 5-3 if we beat KY.

Apoplectic
10-30-2021, 03:47 PM
We would be 5-3 if we beat KY.

Damn ur right - so win or lose for Merlin - what is the status of our program?

BeardoMSU
10-30-2021, 03:48 PM
When he was at State he made little to no adjustments and caught lightening in a bottle with Dak. His ego sure as hell doesn't match his results. He's a decent coach, but he's not an offensive savant like some like to claim. He's had the benefit of Tim Tebow and Dak to make him look good.

Some truth here. Dan still is a good coach, though...he's just not elite.

The careers of Tebow and Dak certainly create a mirage of Dan as a "QB developer", but it's even worse when you consider that Tim came to Florida as a 5 star highly recruited guy, and he never really improved as a passer. He did help develop Dak, but Dak is also one of those rare guys that just refuses to stop getting better (he's improved every year in the League, too). Dan does deserve a lot of credit for finding guys like Dak and Fitz, though.

Vandownbytheriver
10-30-2021, 03:48 PM
Not sure how the play with Corral and UT was dead and you call that a fumble. Seems UT may have been hosed.

TNDawg35
10-30-2021, 03:49 PM
If I’m not mistaken, isn’t he like 2-6 vs power 5 teams before today in his last 8 games?

RocketDawg
10-30-2021, 03:49 PM
Dan must not be looking for another job since he's arguing calls and spots with enthusiasm.

Didn't know Christman had transferred to Florida.

BeardoMSU
10-30-2021, 03:50 PM
Not sure how the play with Corral and UT was dead and you call that a fumble. Seems UT may have been hosed.

They absolutely were. Jeff Simmons also had a similar play called back (against Auburn or Bama?) his last year.

Vandownbytheriver
10-30-2021, 03:51 PM
Some truth here. Dan still is a good coach, though...he's just not elite.

The careers of Tebow and Dak certainly create a mirage of Dan as a "QB developer", but it's even worse when you consider that Tim came to Florida as a 5 star highly recruited guy, and he never really improved as a passer. He did help develop Dak, but Dak is also one of those rare guys that just refuses to stop getting better (he's improved every year in the League, too). Dan does deserve a lot of credit for finding guys like Dak and Fitz, though.
I agree with all of that. Dan needs a certain type of QB and when he has them, he can call a decent game. He can also refuse to mix things up in big games when the RPO and spread isn't clicking. He's a good coach, but way too many want to give him too much credit and not enough blame.

Cooterpoot
10-30-2021, 03:51 PM
When he was at State he made little to no adjustments and caught lightening in a bottle with Dak. His ego sure as hell doesn't match his results. He's a decent coach, but he's not an offensive savant like some like to claim. He's had the benefit of Tim Tebow and Dak to make him look good.

You crazy! He threw it, he ran power, he even ran wishbone, he used Hbacks, FB, TE and would go 5 wide. He had the top passing team in the SEC last year and lost his QB/TE/WR and now is one of the better running teams. The guy is a good coach. He got conservative vs AL and lost focus end of the year chasing jobs later. And who you think developed those QBs? He made Relf look like a QB.

Apoplectic
10-30-2021, 03:53 PM
You crazy! He threw it, he ran power, he even ran wishbone, he used Hbacks, FB, TE and would go 5 wide. He had the top passing team in the SEC last year and lost his QB/TE/WR and now is one of the better running teams. The guy is a good coach. He got conservative vs AL and lost focus end of the year chasing jobs later. And who you think developed those QBs? He made Relf look like a QB.

Agree he is a good coarch. He is not a great / elite / win it all coach.

BeardoMSU
10-30-2021, 03:58 PM
I agree with all of that. Dan needs a certain type of QB and when he has them, he can call a decent game. He can also refuse to mix things up in big games when the RPO and spread isn't clicking. He's a good coach, but way too many want to give him too much credit and not enough blame.

I agree that he gets a lot of undue praise as a "offensive guru", but he definitely mixed things up while here. He started a damn fullback in 2009 for example, lol. In 2015 we threw it a ton, went under center, used TE's, etc....granted that year was more about featuring Dak's arm for the NFL, but still.

As others have noted, Dan's biggest flaw is he's a lazy recruiter and he surrounds himself with lazy recruiters.

Lord McBuckethead
10-30-2021, 03:59 PM
Ballgame. Georgia. Took only 2 minutes at the end of the half. 17-0

Lord McBuckethead
10-30-2021, 04:00 PM
When Mullin loses to uga and we upset uk- we?ll both be 4-4 with us having wins over three top 20 teams and don with a win over UT.

Can someone give me a status update on the program if this plays out?

That is a fair comparison.

Commercecomet24
10-30-2021, 04:06 PM
This game is getting embarrassing. Geez Don

BeardoMSU
10-30-2021, 04:07 PM
Oh my. Now 24-0 Georgia after a pick6 with 7 seconds left. It was 3-0 less than 2 minutes ago, lol.

Maverick91
10-30-2021, 04:08 PM
This has been the worst three minutes for a team. Florida is getting bent over!

RocketDawg
10-30-2021, 04:08 PM
If Dan is a QB-whisperer, he needs to whisper a little louder. Lots of QB mistakes being made.

Cooterpoot
10-30-2021, 04:08 PM
Inexperienced and lesser talent QB play has killed FL this year. Dan is regretting that pass on Corral.

Lord McBuckethead
10-30-2021, 04:09 PM
UF gave up 21 pts in the last 2 minutes of the half. Nakobe Dean, whom Mullen somewhat recruited from Horn Lake to MSU got the last pick 6.

Edited, sorry that was Moorhead that recruited him.

UFs qb responsible for three plays in a row, 21 pts to GA. Never seen anything else like big Game Dan.

RocketDawg
10-30-2021, 04:09 PM
Oh my. Now 24-0 Georgia after a pick6 with 7 seconds left. It was 3-0 less than 2 minutes ago, lol.

That's about what Alabama does to us in every game we play.

Lord McBuckethead
10-30-2021, 04:09 PM
This has been the worst three minutes for a team. Florida is getting bent over!

Worst three consecutive plays by an offense I have ever seen.

Lord McBuckethead
10-30-2021, 04:10 PM
That's about what Alabama does to us in every game we play.

Exactly. Saw it by a Dan Mullen team a bunch against Bama. It was always a 5 minute period of the game where they scored 21.

parabrave
10-30-2021, 04:16 PM
So do you think Grantham will be chewing on Dans ass during halftime?

Cooterpoot
10-30-2021, 04:17 PM
I think Richardson can be good down the road. He's just young and inexperienced. Dan should've gone to the locker room knowing the QB situation but got cute trying to do too much. That's the sign of a coach who knows his ass is on the line. He could've gone in down 10-0. But he was going to lose anyway.

RocketDawg
10-30-2021, 04:18 PM
Exactly. Saw it by a Dan Mullen team a bunch against Bama. It was always a 5 minute period of the game where they scored 21.

Yeah, they're sneaky. They score 21 on you before you have a chance to even think about what's happening.

BrunswickDawg
10-30-2021, 04:18 PM
My view of that pick 6 was quite nice
https://i.postimg.cc/DZ0RBTbm/69174-BD5-2497-4-AA3-9-FC6-943092-EF911-F.jpg

RocketDawg
10-30-2021, 04:27 PM
My view of that pick 6 was quite nice
https://i.postimg.cc/DZ0RBTbm/69174-BD5-2497-4-AA3-9-FC6-943092-EF911-F.jpg

How'd you get 50-yard line tickets?

lastmajordog
10-30-2021, 04:33 PM
Toooooo bad Mullen didn’t have a one loss or undefeated season for the DOGS before he moved on....would have been a nice resume.....Mullen gonna Mullen....

BrunswickDawg
10-30-2021, 04:34 PM
How'd you get 50-yard line tickets?

I know people.

BeardoMSU
10-30-2021, 04:38 PM
If Dan is a QB-whisperer, he needs to whisper a little louder.

He only whispers sweet-nothings.**

RocketDawg
10-30-2021, 04:47 PM
I seem to remember that Jace Christmann was a much better kicker with us than he's showing today.

Commercecomet24
10-30-2021, 04:49 PM
Some coaches evolve and go from good to elite. Dan is still the same coach he was in 2009, not much has changed.

RocketDawg
10-30-2021, 04:53 PM
Dan may be searching for a job before long.

Matt3467
10-30-2021, 04:55 PM
Some truth here. Dan still is a good coach, though...he's just not elite.

The careers of Tebow and Dak certainly create a mirage of Dan as a "QB developer", but it's even worse when you consider that Tim came to Florida as a 5 star highly recruited guy, and he never really improved as a passer. He did help develop Dak, but Dak is also one of those rare guys that just refuses to stop getting better (he's improved every year in the League, too). Dan does deserve a lot of credit for finding guys like Dak and Fitz, though.

Alex Smith is another he developed. He may not have recruited him but he molded him into a heck of a college QB. What he did with Relf is amazing and I think if Tyler Russell stays healthy he has eye popping numbers. Dan Mullen with the exception of his first year here at State with Tyson Lee always had a good QB.

Cooterpoot
10-30-2021, 04:57 PM
Some coaches evolve and go from good to elite. Dan is still the same coach he was in 2009, not much has changed.

Still got the country club with him. He's making millions and taking care of his buddies. He's not serious about being great. All he has to do is hire a couple top line recruiters & stop settling. But he won't. He's fine with being a good coach, but a great coach in his own mind.

BrunswickDawg
10-30-2021, 05:00 PM
Some coaches evolve and go from good to elite. Dan is still the same coach he was in 2009, not much has changed.

What? A coach who only knows one system and won't adapt? My heavens!

Commercecomet24
10-30-2021, 05:10 PM
Still got the country club with him. He's making millions and taking care of his buddies. He's not serious about being great. All he has to do is hire a couple top line recruiters & stop settling. But he won't. He's fine with being a good coach, but a great coach in his own mind.

Hit the nail on the head right here. He could be so much better but he's settling.

Commercecomet24
10-30-2021, 05:11 PM
What? A coach who only knows one system and won't adapt? My heavens!

Astounding isn't it?

BrunswickDawg
10-30-2021, 05:11 PM
Hit the nail on the head right here. He could be so much better but he's settling.

3rd and 2 QB power??? Shocking

parabrave
10-30-2021, 05:12 PM
What is the FL version of ED. Anyone have a link to it since it will be must reading later tonight?

Commercecomet24
10-30-2021, 05:13 PM
3rd and 2 QB power??? Shocking

Same ol same ol!

BeardoMSU
10-30-2021, 05:15 PM
Alex Smith is another he developed. He may not have recruited him but he molded him into a heck of a college QB. What he did with Relf is amazing and I think if Tyler Russell stays healthy he has eye popping numbers. Dan Mullen with the exception of his first year here at State with Tyson Lee always had a good QB.

I wonder how much of Alex Smith was Urban, though.

I agree that Relf was a good dude for us, but he had a ceiling, and was way more of a runner. Tyler wasn't a fit. Fitz was "Relf-wrapped in bacon"; a battering ram with gazelle moves once he broke free. Fitz was a better passer than Chris, but we also had much better talent at WR by then.

BeardoMSU
10-30-2021, 05:16 PM
3rd and 2 QB power??? Shocking

5 to 6 yards and shorter, it's the only play to consider, lol. 3-D chess.

BrunswickDawg
10-30-2021, 05:16 PM
Tailgating was awesome

https://i.postimg.cc/xjBTK5Fy/27800910-78-F6-44-AB-A2-DB-664-B3361-CB92.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/qqKrbfZc/6-E5530-E5-B180-47-EE-A0-CB-D88-C816-FD1-BC.jpg

BeardoMSU
10-30-2021, 05:18 PM
Tailgating was awesome

https://i.postimg.cc/xjBTK5Fy/27800910-78-F6-44-AB-A2-DB-664-B3361-CB92.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/qqKrbfZc/6-E5530-E5-B180-47-EE-A0-CB-D88-C816-FD1-BC.jpg

Nice. ED missed their chance at beer branding, though, lol.

parabrave
10-30-2021, 05:18 PM
Tailgating was awesome

https://i.postimg.cc/xjBTK5Fy/27800910-78-F6-44-AB-A2-DB-664-B3361-CB92.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/qqKrbfZc/6-E5530-E5-B180-47-EE-A0-CB-D88-C816-FD1-BC.jpg

The Why we can't Market thread ids on page 2!

PGHBulldogBG
10-30-2021, 05:32 PM
Mullen really had it made here and was not smart enough to realize it. He thought going to UF it would recruit itself and he would win big because of that. Also his ego got the best of him and this is the result. Some of these coaches just don?t get that going to the blue blood is not always the answer. I actually respect Napier for not jumping at any opportunity.

TrapGame
10-30-2021, 05:48 PM
Mullen gonna Mullen. Different school, same results.