We Spend Least Amount on Recruiting in the SEC

[William Tecumsah Sherman]

We are 13. Vandy is not listed. That has to change.

[Rayburn8]

If you are gonna rip off my post on another board at least link the article.

Here is the article for anyone that cares: https://www.athleticdirectoru.com/articles/an-analysis-of-football-recruiting-costs/

We are at $435,224.

Wazzu is at $503,936

Ole Miss is at $669,364

Mizzou is at $852,024

South Carolina is at $931,666

Auburn is at $955,898

Kentucky is at $1,035,217

Florida is at $1,271,821

LSU is at $1,607,148

Texas A&M is at $1,673,204

Arkansas is at $1,931,026

Tennessee is at $2,247,289

Alabama is at $2,663,467

Georgia is at $3,676,858.

[BeardoMSU]

Faculty and staff are obviously letting us down***

[Activated Alpha]

You know I always said that if I won the lottery I would make an endowment for the university to spend on croots. However I fear that even they would mess it up and brackey would rat everyone out

[Maverick91]

Washington state is beating us!

[Saltydog]

We could double our budget and not see significant improvements......We are who we are and we're ALWAYS going to struggle competing against the vast majority of teams in the SEC......

[Coach34]

In other news- Bruce Jenner was named Woman of the Year

[calidawg]

That's pretty surprising about Ark and Auburns places.

[IMissJack]

Arkansas is getting fleeced!

[FriarsPoint]

The wisest money spent on recruiting is under the table.

[Todd4State]

We all know Ole Miss's budget is way more if you count illegal payments to players.

[IMissJack]

It is pretty sad that our "arch rival" 82 miles away spends 1.5 times as much as we do on recruiting. We deserve what we get. What's even worse is we could double our budget and still be under KY. Think about that.

[Ari Gold]

Mason Smith was / is just an over rated “internet” recruiting guru. We don’t need him..***

[Dawgology]

We could double our budget and not see significant improvements......We are who we are and we're ALWAYS going to struggle competing against the vast majority of teams in the SEC......

This is halfway true. We need to double the budget AND get organized amongst boosters. It’s in disarray

[Todd4State]

We could double our budget and not see significant improvements......We are who we are and we're ALWAYS going to struggle competing against the vast majority of teams in the SEC......

I disagree. Doubling our budget would go a LONG way for us.

To me there is very little excuse for us to not recruit better in football. We can recruit well in the other sports. Football all of a sudden it's one excuse after the other. Even with the NIL it's going to take us a few years to get organized and will take a football coach that prioritizes recruiting like Bob Tyler did.

[bulldawg28]

The wisest money spent on recruiting is under the table.

This

[confucius say]

Ark spends 5 times what we do and our composite recruiting ranking is the same? Geez.

I question the validity of these. For example, the article says one reason uga is so high is because it doesn't have its own jet and every flight is chartered and paid for.

[BrunswickDawg]

FY18-FY20 was mostly the JoMo era.
JoMo barely recruited outside MS - it doesn't cost much to recruit when 2/3 of your recruits are in-state, and 89% are within MS/AL/LA/West TN (18, 19 & 20 classes).
Not defending being last by any means - it just makes sense when you look at where we were recruiting during that time period.

[BeardoMSU]

This is halfway true. We need to double the budget AND get organized amongst boosters. It’s in disarray

Yep.

[thf24]

Ark spends 5 times what we do and our composite recruiting ranking is the same? Geez.

They don't have the hotbed of raw talent in their backyard that we do.

I would imagine if cornered and pressed, that would be part of our administration's justification - that we have more talent closer to home, so it doesn't cost nearly as much to establish a board and lines of communication. Doesn't matter though when the cream of that crop gets poached by Alabama and LSU.

[sleepy dawg]

FY18-FY20 was mostly the JoMo era.
JoMo barely recruited outside MS - it doesn't cost much to recruit when 2/3 of your recruits are in-state, and 89% are within MS/AL/LA/West TN (18, 19 & 20 classes).
Not defending being last by any means - it just makes sense when you look at where we were recruiting during that time period.

Maybe we can't recruit much outside of that because of the budget.

[Coach34]

I've often wondered why we dont try to recruit linemen out of the Midwest. Milder climate. Still has hunting access. Prettier women in the South. Lots to offer. If you look at Kentucky- Stoops has solidified them by recruiting very well in the trenches.

[BrunswickDawg]

Maybe we can't recruit much outside of that because of the budget.

Maybe, but Leach currently has 23 OOS commits and 17 MS commits between the '21 & '22 classes. He is not much outside our normal footprint but has hit Texas and Florida more for sure.

[smootness]

No matter the topic or area, when State fans find out how much we spend, we get all mad and blame the administration, and claim we need to spend more. Our fans think we should spend more on everything as though all it takes is making the decision to do it.

Our revenues are at the bottom of the conference; of course that means we will also spend less than anyone else. It's not the administration's fault, we just don't have the money to spend a ton on anything. And if we do, we will definitely be hurting everywhere else.

When you look at our revenues and budget, we should all be singing the administration's praises with our relative success across the athletic department.

[William Tecumsah Sherman]

I agree, Coach34. I?ve wondered the same. Surely some of these corn fed boys would like to get out of the snow and play in the SEC

[FISHDAWG]

I agree, Coach34. I?ve wondered the same. Surely some of these corn fed boys would like to get out of the snow and play in the SEC

and only 5 hours from the beach

[WPS]

Arkansas is getting fleeced!

Arkansas also has the highest nutritional program/student-athlete food budget in the SEC. Seems like a lot of money for recruiting mid-20's most years but guess that's what you have to do in such a small state without many players. Nebraska is similar.

[Maverick91]

No matter the topic or area, when State fans find out how much we spend, we get all mad and blame the administration, and claim we need to spend more. Our fans think we should spend more on everything as though all it takes is making the decision to do it.

Our revenues are at the bottom of the conference; of course that means we will also spend less than anyone else. It's not the administration's fault, we just don't have the money to spend a ton on anything. And if we do, we will definitely be hurting everywhere else.

When you look at our revenues and budget, we should all be singing the administration's praises with our relative success across the athletic department.

I thought we operated in the black? When most dont? If it takes us to blood a little on the books I take it. Not trying to take away from your point, because I think it is valid, but, if we spend a little more than save im all for it. This isn't a get a return on invest in an IRA thing this is a get a return on the field thing. And if we are putting more into our pockets than on the field than we need to change.

[Leeshouldveflanked]

I've often wondered why we dont try to recruit linemen out of the Midwest. Milder climate. Still has hunting access. Prettier women in the South. Lots to offer. If you look at Kentucky- Stoops has solidified them by recruiting very well in the trenches.
^^^^Bingo^^^^ get OL from Midwest(Garry Frank) We also way under recruit Georgia? a lot of teams from the Midwest come to Georgia to get Players. Georgia puts out around 150-200 legit D1 players each year while Mississippi puts out around 20-25. We used to have a pretty good pipeline out of Georgia, but don?t know what happened to it.

[confucius say]

No matter the topic or area, when State fans find out how much we spend, we get all mad and blame the administration, and claim we need to spend more. Our fans think we should spend more on everything as though all it takes is making the decision to do it.

Our revenues are at the bottom of the conference; of course that means we will also spend less than anyone else. It's not the administration's fault, we just don't have the money to spend a ton on anything. And if we do, we will definitely be hurting everywhere else.

When you look at our revenues and budget, we should all be singing the administration's praises with our relative success across the athletic department.

We can't even come close to selling out a game against a top 15 opponent at night with great weather when we have a winning record and are only a 1.5 point underdog. Collectively as a fan base we don't really care.

[Saltydog]

Which is what will happen to us if our budget is increased.......

[Jack Lambert]

Is this a thread from last year? It sure seems like it.

[bulldogcountry1]

If you want to compare wins to recruiting budget, I?d say we are getting a good bang for our buck.

[Jack Lambert]

I've often wondered why we dont try to recruit linemen out of the Midwest. Milder climate. Still has hunting access. Prettier women in the South. Lots to offer. If you look at Kentucky- Stoops has solidified them by recruiting very well in the trenches.

Didn't the Fat Guy with the hot blonde wife try that at Arkansas?

[lastmajordog]

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[WPS]

Didn't the Fat Guy with the hot blonde wife try that at Arkansas?

He got 4* linemen from as far away as Colorado, Minnesota, Hawaii and Florida before Pittman left as OL coach and everything kinda fell apart from there.

[BB30]

If you are gonna rip off my post on another board at least link the article.

Here is the article for anyone that cares: https://www.athleticdirectoru.com/articles/an-analysis-of-football-recruiting-costs/

We are at $435,224.

Wazzu is at $503,936

Ole Miss is at $669,364

Mizzou is at $852,024

South Carolina is at $931,666

Auburn is at $955,898

Kentucky is at $1,035,217

Florida is at $1,271,821

LSU is at $1,607,148

Texas A&M is at $1,673,204

Arkansas is at $1,931,026

Tennessee is at $2,247,289

Alabama is at $2,663,467

Georgia is at $3,676,858.

Ha ha this stuff has been discussed on this board over the years multiple times, this article has come out just about every other year. That is why I think some of the expectation on here is absurd. Look at anything in life and you typically get out of it what you put into it.

Our fans want champagne results on a keystone 30 rack budget. Until we start throwing legitimate money at the problem we will continue to recruit at the level that we are. You can blame it on the coaches all that you want but $$ talks. It is about to get significantly worse with the NIL deals. It's not surprising that regardless of who is coaching here we tend to recruit at the same level.

And I'm not throwing stones at our big boosters. They are contributing a good bit. It is the rest of the fanbase that needs to up donations if they want to compete for championships on a consistent basis, otherwise quit complaining.

Want better coaches, donate more
Want better recruiting, donate more
Want better records, donate more

[SailingDawg]

Our athletic budget is at the bottom of the SEC, why would we expect recruiting or any other part of the budget to be any different?

[Saltydog]

Everyone here bitching about our budget ante up. If you're not in the BDC, consider joining. It's $100/year.

[TUSK]

If you want to compare wins to recruiting budget, I'd say we are getting a good bang for our buck.

And you would be correct, sir...

Team COST/W
MSU $134,328
Auburn $197,500

Missouri $248,259
Florida $249,965
Kentucky $271,853
Mississippi $285,565
USC $287,551
LSU $287,813

Texas A&M $342,870
Alabama $356,078

Georgia $627,022

Tennessee $843,577

Arkansas $1,445,379

2016-2020
SEC games ONLY
based on W% x 8 game season

[FriarsPoint]

I've often wondered why we dont try to recruit linemen out of the Midwest. Milder climate. Still has hunting access. Prettier women in the South. Lots to offer. If you look at Kentucky- Stoops has solidified them by recruiting very well in the trenches.

This has been a question debated for some time. Tubberville had the same thought.

It won’t work. You have to recruit your area. You want to know the in’s and out’s of why……it should be simple.

[FriarsPoint]

Arkansas also has the highest nutritional program/student-athlete food budget in the SEC. Seems like a lot of money for recruiting mid-20's most years but guess that's what you have to do in such a small state without many players. Nebraska is similar.

Excuse me for being a dick. When you float shit like that, quit. Just tell the truth. We are wonder bread here in NW Arkansas. And our state produces DII all stars.

Dude I’m from the Mississippi delta. I call it new South Africa. In one geographic region we produce more talent in 100 miles than Arkansas produces as an entire entity.