This

[Hot Rock]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mwidwMc50nw&feature=youtu.be

[Catfish]

Matt's got a valid point!

[msstate7]

Moorhead was 14-12. Guess Matt thinks Moorhead was fired unfairly.

[ShotgunDawg]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mwidwMc50nw&feature=youtu.be

Pretty good stuff by Matt.

I agree with him. I just think we need a mobile QB for this to work at a level that gives us a chance at the West

[msstate7]

Pretty good stuff by Matt.

I agree with him. I just think we need a mobile QB for this to work at a level that gives us a chance at the West

Leach is not getting a mobile qb

[Dak Holliday]

He actively avoids them. Too quick to give up on the pass.

[confucius say]

Moorhead was 14-12. Guess Matt thinks Moorhead was fired unfairly.

Moorhead wasn't fired for anything on the field.

[BayouDawg]

Moorhead was 14-12. Guess Matt thinks Moorhead was fired unfairly.

Moorhead wasnt fired for on field performance. He gets a third year easily if the locker room issues dont blow up

[msstate7]

Moorhead wasn't fired for anything on the field.

Regardless, Matt woulda been totting water for joe if joe was still here. Matt is a miss state employee! You really think he's gonna criticize a sitting coach?

[BayouDawg]

Leach is not getting a mobile qb

Dont really need a mobile or dual threat. Just quick feet and escapability. Garner is a good example of this.

[Dak Holliday]

Regardless, Matt woulda been totting water for joe if joe was still here. Matt is a miss state employee! You really think he's gonna criticize a sitting coach?

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I think he does a pretty good job breaking down film, but you can?t hold him accountable on anything said about MSU. He knows where his bread is buttered and isn?t going to venture outside predetermined boundaries in his criticism.

[msstate7]

Dont really need a mobile or dual threat. Just quick feet and escapability. Garner is a good example of this.

Wish he'd learn a little something from kingsbury. Run more, get a dual threat qb, and add a te

[HoopsDawg]

Wish he'd learn a little something from kingsbury. Run more, get a dual threat qb, and add a te

Man, that would be outstanding. Not asking for much. I would just take a dual threat QB. A dual threat could burn that 3 man rush enought to make teams rush 4 or 5.

[Hot Rock]

let’s run the triple option again, that worked so damn well.

Heaven forbid we do something different.

We know is thus may not work, but we also know what you want to do absolutely had not worked for all our damn lives!

Dammit give it a chance!

[BayouDawg]

Man, that would be outstanding. Not asking for much. I would just take a dual threat QB. A dual threat could burn that 3 man rush enought to make teams rush 4 or 5.

I agree. It would be fantastic

[msstate7]

let’s run the triple option again, that worked so damn well.

Heaven forbid we do something different.

We know is thus may not work, but we also know what you want to do absolutely had not worked for all our damn lives!

Dammit give it a chance!

Well, we're 87th in the country in yds/play and army is 90th, so not much difference

[Jarius]

Man, that would be outstanding. Not asking for much. I would just take a dual threat QB. A dual threat could burn that 3 man rush enought to make teams rush 4 or 5.

We would look exactly like Ole Miss if we had a quarterback that could run the football and it really is not Will’s fault although he is not super mobile. Enough people with access have said that Will is being told not to run that I believe it. That drop 8 garbage would immediately stop with a mobile quarterback.

[mparkerfd20]

The 10 most successful years for MSU in history was proven to be when we had an RPO offense. So I disagree with Matt. Sorry but we've proven the formula already and it is in line with what we can recruit in Mississippi. Why we've deviated so far from it in our last 2 coaching hires I'll never understand.

[msstate7]

We would look exactly like Ole Miss if we had a quarterback that could run the football and it really is not Will’s fault although he is not super mobile. Enough people with access have said that Will is being told not to run that I believe it. That drop 8 garbage would immediately stop with a mobile quarterback.

If we are actively telling our qb not to take easy yards, I hate this staff even more

[Jarius]

If we are actively telling our qb not to take easy yards, I hate this staff even more

I know this board does not think much of Bo Bounds but he said it on air not long ago. He said that the staff has told him not to because there is no backup. Bo doesn’t know shit about football but he does have contacts.

[msstate7]

I know this board does not think much of Bo Bounds but he said it on air not long ago. He said that the staff has told him not to because there is no backup.

So stay healthy and lose bc we might lose even worse with a backup. Cool strategy

[Maroonthirteen]

Moorhead was 14-12. Guess Matt thinks Moorhead was fired unfairly.

Well he did say State will NEVER beat about 3 schools in about 3-4 categories. ...and these folks think it was some genius defense of Leach. Which it was an attempt.

He called the program average. Said leach would win a game or two above average and you better like it.

Terrible message Cohen.

[Maroonthirteen]

Well, we're 87th in the country in yds/play and army is 90th, so not much difference

Bullet point number....???.... On Cohens talking points. Who knows. But it reads, accuse anyone not carrying Leachs water to be in love with the triple option.

[Hot Rock]

Well, we're 87th in the country in yds/play and army is 90th, so not much difference

Good point, so it’s actually about the same. So, a Leach offense that takes years to get right has already beaten as many top 25 teams as Mullen did in a decade with an NFL MVP TYPE QB! I know is this, an RPO and a dual threat QB WILL NEVER WIN ShIT HERE. Why? They are dependent on getting the best athletes. We don’t.

I am not certain Leach can succeed either but I know what you want will not work. Period The definition of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting different results.

[ShotgunDawg]

Leach is not getting a mobile qb

Lovertich is mobile. It doesn't have to be Kyler Murray. Just need someone that can move around

of by all means, let's go get a highly rated 4 star or 5 star that can do both

[FriarsPoint]

One thing I’ve learned in my time following MSU football is things never change until you hit absolute rock bottom. Charlie Shira, Emory Bellard, Rockey Felker, Sylvester Croom. I’m pretty confident I’ll be adding another name to that list. Hopefully two.

[Jarius]

One thing I’ve learned in my time following MSU football is things never change until you hit absolute rock bottom. Charlie Shira, Emory Bellard, Rockey Felker, Sylvester Croom. I’m pretty confident I’ll be adding another name to that list. Hopefully two.

It will not be Leach. He may not win the way we want him to but he will never hit rock bottom here. He is not a bad coach.

[Hot Rock]

When this team wins you guys hate it. Let that sink in.

[ShotgunDawg]

It will not be Leach. He may not win the way we want him to but he will never hit rock bottom here. He is not a bad coach.

This

Friar is a little deep into the mead tonight

[HoopsDawg]

It will not be Leach. He may not win the way we want him to but he will never hit rock bottom here. He is not a bad coach.

I agree with this. I will probably forever be upset at Leach for not adapting his offense, but he's a good enough coach that we won't hit rock bottom.

[Hot Rock]

Leach may not win an SEC title but these asshats act like Mullen did when he got his ass kicked by every decent team for a decade with the best QB in Our history and more NFL talent than ever. Hell, Mullen is getting beat at Florida with that talent.

That dude was always trying to leave, 17 him.

Guys, we don’t get 5 star talent, you want to go win in the SEC, you can’t keep doing the same old thing. .500 in this league is a dang win for us. Leach is the only coach in our history that actually teaches the pass first.

You want to hate them teaching the QB NOT TO RUN when that is exactly what can beat better teams is nuts to me. You would rather see the helicopter play by a running QB that is two yards short than get a win. Ignorance

[HoopsDawg]

We would look exactly like Ole Miss if we had a quarterback that could run the football and it really is not Will?s fault although he is not super mobile. Enough people with access have said that Will is being told not to run that I believe it. That drop 8 garbage would immediately stop with a mobile quarterback.

We wouldn't look exactly like Ole Miss but we would certainly be tougher to defend. Ole Miss doesn't use the wide splits that Leach uses. Also, Lane Kiffin is not afraid to commit the run game. Ole Miss ran for 300 yards today against LSU if you take out the sack yardage. Leach would never do that.

If Will were my QB, I wouldn't want him running much either.

[BayouDawg]

Well, we're 87th in the country in yds/play and army is 90th, so not much difference

Speaking of which. Army put up 56 on wake today. They also gave up 70 though

[FriarsPoint]

Speaking of which. Army put up 56 on wake today. They also gave up 70 though

I read an SI article about the Wake offense today. My reaction was try that against DLs that are 6-4 280 that run a 4.8.

[BayouDawg]

I read an SI article about the Wake offense today. My reaction was try that against DLs that are 6-4 280 that run a 4.8.

Yea that long mesh would get blown up in the sec I would think.

[ShotgunDawg]

I read an SI article about the Wake offense today. My reaction was try that against DLs that are 6-4 280 that run a 4.8.

Wake is the 3rd oldest team in D1 football. Most things work with that much experience

[R2Dawg]

let?s run the triple option again, that worked so damn well.

Heaven forbid we do something different.

We know is thus may not work, but we also know what you want to do absolutely had not worked for all our damn lives!

Dammit give it a chance!

No one has said run the triple option, get a grip. Good D and being balanced can win, we've done it before.

It has been 2 years, and it is the same. How long do you need?

The biggest issue with Leach is he only runs a scheme. He does not coach. He makes no adjustments year to year, game to game tailored to the opponent and he makes no adjustments at halftime. I don't care what scheme you run, if you don't coach (adjust) you don't win nothing.

[Jarius]

We wouldn't look exactly like Ole Miss but we would certainly be tougher to defend. Ole Miss doesn't use the wide splits that Leach uses. Also, Lane Kiffin is not afraid to commit the run game. Ole Miss ran for 300 yards today against LSU if you take out the sack yardage. Leach would never do that.

If Will were my QB, I wouldn't want him running much either.

Yea I worded that poorly. I think we would be as efficient as them if we had a quarterback as accurate as Will that runs like Corral or someone similar though. The biggest thing holding our offense back is that no one has to account for the quarterback. He does not have to be Michael Vick. He just needs to be someone that kills a defense that tries to drop 8.

[msstate7]

Wake is the 3rd oldest team in D1 football. Most things work with that much experience

Scoring offense ranks nationally...
2017 - 21st
2018 - 35th
2019 - 42nd
2020 - 19th
2021 - 12th

They've been a good offense for a while

[Todd4State]

Scoring offense ranks nationally...
2017 - 21st
2018 - 35th
2019 - 42nd
2020 - 19th
2021 - 12th

They've been a good offense for a while

I think it's funny that you talk up Dave Clawson so much when his offense finished last and next to last his first two years at Wake Forest averaging a Croom-ish 14 PPG and then 15 PPG and yet you talk down Mike Leach at MSU. This was 2014-15 for anyone that wants to look it up. Which basically is an example that proves Wyatt's point.

[Dawg_Lover]

One thing I?ve learned in my time following MSU football is things never change until you hit absolute rock bottom. Charlie Shira, Emory Bellard, Rockey Felker, Sylvester Croom. I?m pretty confident I?ll be adding another name to that list. Hopefully two.


I have not thought of Coach Shira in years. That was during my college days ..... He was there 1967 to 1972 & his record was 16W/45L/2T. Poor D. D. Lewis, 67 was his senior year I believe, but he made up for it later with the 2 Super Bowl rings at Dallas.
Pretty much everybody back then adopted the attitude, he who expects nothing is never disappointed. On the rare occasion we actually won, we were shocked.

[msstate7]

I think it's funny that you talk up Dave Clawson so much when his offense finished last and next to last his first two years at Wake Forest averaging a Croom-ish 14 PPG and then 15 PPG and yet you talk down Mike Leach at MSU. This was 2014-15 for anyone that wants to look it up. Which basically is an example that proves Wyatt's point.

Not all first 2 years are equal. It's very likely that leach has more talent his 1st 2 years than he'll ever have. I do think the offense will improve as he gets his players, but the defense will fall... you have to have talent on that side, and we aren't getting many stars

[Todd4State]

Not all first 2 years are equal. It's very likely that leach has more talent his 1st 2 years than he'll ever have. I do think the offense will improve as he gets his players, but the defense will fall... you have to have talent on that side, and we aren't getting many stars

I think we will recruit fine on defense. Especially since we have JUCO as a fallback plan which has worked for us multiple times especially on that side of the ball.

I also think we close strong this year as we usually do if things go as rumored.

[Dawgology]

Mississippi State doesn’t need to change football coaches they need to change their recruiting. Until that happens our results on the field will remain the same.

Unfortunately, FOOTBALL recruiting is not the priority for this AD and his administration.

[Maverick91]

I think we will recruit fine on defense. Especially since we have JUCO as a fallback plan which has worked for us multiple times especially on that side of the ball.

I also think we close strong this year as we usually do if things go as rumored.

What’s rumored?