Alabama kick 6:00pm.

[starkvegasdawg]

No excuse to not have a packed house.

[chef dixon]

Is anyone else bummed we play Bama next? Can we skip that game? I want us to build off momentum and see us continue to make progress against beatable opponents. Not to mention its a bye then Bama.

[ShotgunDawg]

Is anyone else bummed we play Bama next? Can we skip that game? I want us to build off momentum and see us continue to make progress against beatable opponents. Not to mention its a bye then Bama.

I think we can play well vs Bama & that could set us for momentum.

[memsu06]

Have we ever used a bye week to our advantage? Seems like every time we have one we come out flat footed.

[ShotgunDawg]

Have we ever used a bye week to our advantage? Seems like every time we have one we come out flat footed.

We really need to get healthy though. Even if we come out flat footed, at least we should be healthy.

That being said, I'm hopeful it's different with Leach because he simplifies. I think many coaches over complicate things with an off week & that causes the team to play slow.

With Leach, I think we'll just work on fundamentals & play faster

[MaroonFlounder]

Packed house or not. Doesn't matter. Bama will roll again. I don't think we get shut out like last year. We will score a time or 2.

In the near future, though.....when Leach gets his receivers and the QB at the level that he got Gardner, Graham, BJ, etc....He has the offensive scheme that can beat Bama, if the D gets more than a few stops.

[basedog]

Bama is #1 for a reason, coaching, talent and tradition. Not seeing this as a close game, I just hope we don't get anyone hurt such as Rogers.

Not sure anyone other than Georgia will have a chance beating Bama at least in the Sec. One thing about a Saban team is they get better every week.

[confucius say]

A packed house does matter.
It's a national tv, ESPN night game.

First, recruits will be watching. Need a crazy environment. Second, if it helps us just be within 14 in the second half it matters. The longer we hang around the more eyes are on the game.

Also, Bama is not invincible. They beat fla by 2 points. This time last week everybody on here said they are not what they normally are.

[State82]

Bama is #1 for a reason, coaching, talent and tradition. Not seeing this as a close game, I just hope we don't get anyone hurt such as Rogers.

Not sure anyone other than Georgia will have a chance beating Bama at least in the Sec. One thing about a Saban team is they get better every week.

Unfortunately there is no way to logically argue this.

[basedog]

A packed house does matter.
It's a national tv, ESPN night game.

First, recruits will be watching. Need a crazy environment. Second, if it helps us just be within 14 in the second half it matters. The longer we hang around the more eyes are on the game.

Also, Bama is not invincible. They beat fla by 2 points. This time last week everybody on here said they are not what they normally are.

"Also, Bama is not invincible. They beat fla by 2 points. This time last week everybody on here said they are not what they normally are."
Know way I was saying this, also I said Bama would win by 3 Td's easily, they only get better each week. It's gonna be ugly.

[confucius say]

Define ugly in terms of score

[basedog]

Define ugly in terms of score

45-25

[ShotgunDawg]

45-25

I'd be really happy scoring 25 on them.

[basedog]

I'd be really happy scoring 25 on them.

It depends Gun, I'm not seeing us stop Bama's offense, I also see Bama playing a tight 3-8 zone defense daring us to throw the ball over the top. Bama has so much speed on both sides of the ball. I'm really impressed with #34 Robinson, dude is a man playing against boys. Also Qb Young, amazing year after year the talent they have for offensive schemes.

I'm hoping we could win but I realize that is a pipe dream. Oh I was surprised we beat the Aggies, they have problems.

[Matt3467]

45-25

I think that's pretty generous

[confucius say]

I think it's more of a 38-17.

[ShotgunDawg]

It depends Gun, I'm not seeing us stop Bama's offense, I also see Bama playing a tight 3-8 zone defense daring us to throw the ball over the top. Bama has so much speed on both sides of the ball. I'm really impressed with #34 Robinson, dude is a man playing against boys. Also Qb Young, amazing year after year the talent they have for offensive schemes.

I'm hoping we could win but I realize that is a pipe dream. Oh I was surprised we beat the Aggies, they have problems.

I don't think they're as good as they were last year. Not sure how you play a tight 3-8 zone vs us. We dictate that. If we can block 3 with our 5, we should move the ball

[ShotgunDawg]

I think it's more of a 38-17.

This is my thought as well, but we'll see

[Maverick91]

I just want to move the ball against them honestly. We have looked so putrid verse them ever since we beat them in '07. Moving the ball would mean a lot to me, even if we settle for some field goals that would tell me a lot about this O.

[TaleofTwoDogs]

Have we ever used a bye week to our advantage? Seems like every time we have one we come out flat footed.

^^^THIS^^^

Bye week is greatly overrated.

[SilentSteel16]

I think it's more of a 38-17.

I do believe it will be something along these lines. I believe we hold them under 35. Our Defense is better than UF and definitely better than Ole Miss.

I actually say 28-17 with us getting from 10 points to 17 in the 4th quarter.

[Jack Lambert]

Have we ever used a bye week to our advantage? Seems like every time we have one we come out flat footed.

Only thing bye weeks do is let you get healthy. The negatives: You get rusty and lose focus.

[Jack Lambert]

I don't think they're as good as they were last year. Not sure how you play a tight 3-8 zone vs us. We dictate that. If we can block 3 with our 5, we should move the ball

I really think Will is seeing the field now. Bama is going to run the same defense that everyone else has been running against them. When you see the same defense week after week, the repetitions makes you learn and you just get better. Eventually with the talent Miss State has DC's are going to have to try something else. You learn how to fight by getting your ass kicked and when you get your ass kicked enough you learn how to fight.

[Commercecomet24]

I really think Will is seeing the field now. Bama is going to run the same defense that everyone else has been running against them. When you see the same defense week after week, the repetitions makes you learn and you just get better. Eventually with the talent Miss State has DC's are going to have to try something else. You learn how to fight by getting your ass kicked and when you get your ass kicked enough you learn how to fight.

Always love your perspectives Jack! Good stuff!

[Todd4State]

I think Saban will come out and see if his DL can overwhelm our OL first and if that doesn't work go to zone.

[ShotgunDawg]

I think Saban will come out and see if his DL can overwhelm our OL first and if that doesn't work go to zone.

That's the smart thing to do.

You think they rush 3 or 4?

[Leeshouldveflanked]

35,000 MSU Fans 20,000 BAMA Fans(half of them from Columbus/Meridan/Tupelo/

[TUSK]

35,000 MSU Fans 20,000 BAMA Fans(half of them from Columbus/Meridan/Tupelo/

yup.

[Ranchdawg]

35,000 MSU Fans 20,000 BAMA Fans(half of them from Columbus/Meridan/Tupelo/

And of the 20,000 Bama fans 18,000 of them never actually attended the Univ. and buy their ?A? attire at Walmart. It really cracks me up when I see a Bama fan with a ?A? hat on with sleeveless shirt, Mullet, some teeth and a Marlboro hanging out of his mouth. I always want to ask them what they majored in at the Univ. And there are a bunch of them that fit this description. Especially in East Mississippi.

[Sienfield]

I believe we will see a lot of bogus penalty calls against us.

[Todd4State]

That's the smart thing to do.

You think they rush 3 or 4?

Probably four if I had to guess.

[TrapGame]

I believe we will see a lot of bogus penalty calls against us.

Or no calls against them when their OL is holding the shit out of our DL.

[Maverick91]

I think Saban will come out and see if his DL can overwhelm our OL first and if that doesn't work go to zone.

If they do this, I hope we can gash them for a TD in man before they change. At least give us some life.

[basedog]

Probably four if I had to guess.

Bama has so much talent and are the best coached team in America. You can bet with all the extra coaching staff Bama has they have been studying and scheming how to defend the Pirates offense. They want be confused like the Aggies. Now in saying this, I hope we score often and our defense plays its best game of the year. But in reality we will be a 20 plus underdog, and to say Bama isn't as good as last year, it doesn't matter, they are still the best team in the country.

[Maroonthirteen]

Interesting secondary market so far for this game. 2,200 tickets for sale on stubhub. As low as $35 for upper deck and low as $70 for lower deck. I imagine once we get closer to game time, tickets will sell and the stadium will look full. However, it won't be a sellout. Because of the two losses and ticket prices and all the other long list of reasons people don't go.

Michael Borkey had a podcast on the topic of attendance and ticket prices today.

https://youtu.be/n09yTC4F0-s

[confucius say]

35,000 MSU Fans 20,000 BAMA Fans(half of them from Columbus/Meridan/Tupelo/

There will be more than 35k state fans. Probably 45-50k. The LSU attendance was 50k and only about 5k, if that, were LSU fans.

If there are 15k Bama fans, it will be sold out

[Maverick91]

Can you guys post a new thread?

[Todd4State]

Bama has so much talent and are the best coached team in America. You can bet with all the extra coaching staff Bama has they have been studying and scheming how to defend the Pirates offense. They want be confused like the Aggies. Now in saying this, I hope we score often and our defense plays its best game of the year. But in reality we will be a 20 plus underdog, and to say Bama isn't as good as last year, it doesn't matter, they are still the best team in the country.

Bama knows that they are the best. That's why I think they are going to come out and run their normal defense because I'm guessing Saban figures he can get pressure with his front. And he may be able to.

If we by chance are able to move the ball on them and get an explosive play for a couple of touchdowns I think Saban will go back and switch to zone.

At the end of the day it's really no secret what most teams are going to do against Leach. Rush 3-4 and drop 8 and hope we stop ourselves.

It seems to me the best way to beat Saban is to win some one on one match ups on the outside on go routes and hope that you connect on 3-4 and that most of them go for touchdowns. Much easier said than done. But that's pretty much how Ole Miss did it under Freeze.

[Maroonthirteen]

Probably four if I had to guess.

Alabama's base defense is a 3-4. They will rush 3 DLs. But I'm sure they'll come with all kinda of blitz at some point

[Maroonthirteen]

The vibe that I'm picking up on from State fans regarding this Bama game .. reminds me of 1996. The Bama game in 92 and 94 had sell out crowds. Tough losses. Nobody expected us to compete in 96. It was a late kickoff. There were empty seats here and there. Lots of State fans missed that win that night.

[basedog]

The vibe that I'm picking up on from State fans regarding this Bama game .. reminds me of 1996. The Bama game in 92 and 94 had sell out crowds. Tough losses. Nobody expected us to compete in 96. It was a late kickoff. There were empty seats here and there. Lots of State fans missed that win that night.

That game in 96 at night was an awesome evening. I can see Reggie Kelly catching a pass and racing down the field, it was electric. Great game and what a shock to me seeing us beat Bama. Doesn't happen much, but JWS wasn't afraid playing the Tide.

[Jack Lambert]

That game in 96 at night was an awesome evening. I can see Reggie Kelly catching a pass and racing down the field, it was electric. Great game and what a shock to me seeing us beat Bama. Doesn't happen much, but JWS wasn't afraid playing the Tide.

I believe he beat them three years in a roll. 96,97,98. Not too many other coaches has ever done that. If it is fact. I was at the 97 game at Bama and watch us beat Bama on the road. I was also at the Auburn game in 97 and watch them beat Auburn on the road. That doesn't happen much. Beating both schools on the road in the same year. Then I was at the 97 egg bowl and watched Tuberville go for two and win the game. 97 is the only season in Bama history that they did not win a home game. We were 7-4 in 97 and did not go to a bowl game.

[basedog]

I believe he beat them three years in a roll. 96,97,98. Not too many other coaches has ever done that. If it is fact. I was at the 97 game at Bama and watch us beat Bama on the road. I was also at the Auburn game in 97 and watch them beat Auburn on the road. That doesn't happen much. Beating both schools on the road in the same year. Then I was at the 97 egg bowl and watched Tuberville go for two and win the game. 97 is the only season in Bama history that they did not win a home game. We were 7-4 in 97 and did not go to a bowl game.

JWS brought "we can win and compete" attitude to Msu. I remember sitting at the 50 yard line when we played Tn for the Sec championship game. It was electric to say the least. Oh how we missed JJ Johnson not being able to play hat game, talk about a physical game that night. I just knew we were gonna win that game after Kevin Prentiss made an electric punt return to score and go up on Tn.

[Todd4State]

Alabama's base defense is a 3-4. They will rush 3 DLs. But I'm sure they'll come with all kinda of blitz at some point

You are correct that they are a 3-4 base. Saban uses multiple fronts sometimes though.

[Maroonthirteen]

I was at all those 97 games. That year was my first trip to Auburn. That game at Bama. I bought tickets outside the stadium before kickoff. 50 yard line in those crimson chairbacks. Point is, how quickly the support drops off when you lose. ...and kickoff is 1130am.

I went to all those Bama games. 96-01.

[confucius say]

Can you guys post a new thread?

Nope. The post new thread button is not showing up for me

[R2Dawg]

That game in 96 at night was an awesome evening. I can see Reggie Kelly catching a pass and racing down the field, it was electric. Great game and what a shock to me seeing us beat Bama. Doesn't happen much, but JWS wasn't afraid playing the Tide.

Jackie wasn't scared of any team, but he sure made Bama nervous every year. Probably the only MSU coach to do that.

[R2Dawg]

I was at all those 97 games. That year was my first trip to Auburn. That game at Bama. I bought tickets outside the stadium before kickoff. 50 yard line in those crimson chairbacks. Point is, how quickly the support drops off when you lose. ...and kickoff is 1130am.

I went to all those Bama games. 96-01.

97 in Tuscaloosa was sweet. I was sitting right in middle of Tide Pride section. Watching the corner MSU section celebrate was good. Got a lot of MSU hate that day and liked it.

[Captain Falcon]

Jackie wasn't scared of any team, but he sure made Bama nervous every year. Probably the only MSU coach to do that.

Mike Dubose was not exactly Bear Bryant or Nick Saban, my friend. The win in '96 against Stallings was a legitimately great win, but Jackie's other wins were against some mediocre to downright bad Bama teams.

[Maverick91]

Nope. The post new thread button is not showing up for me

hmmm. good to know.

[basedog]

Mike Dubose was not exactly Bear Bryant or Nick Saban, my friend. The win in '96 against Stallings was a legitimately great win, but Jackie's other wins were against some mediocre to downright bad Bama teams.

They were all legit wins.

[Captain Falcon]

They were all legit wins.

I certainly am never going to complain about beating Alabama, because in our history that is very rare. But three of those Bama teams Jackie beat went 4-7. 7-5, and 3-8, respectively. The two Bama teams that Croom beat both went 6-6 in the regular season. People talk about us being scared of them nowadays and not being scared of them when Jackie was around, and it's like comparing apples to bowling balls. Alabama from 1997 - 2007 has a lot more in common with modern day Tennessee and Nebraska than they do with modern day Alabama.

16 of the 18 wins against Bama in our history were against coaches not named Bryant or Saban. Those two coaches totally dominated us. Jackie Sherrill just so happened to be at MSU in the window of time between Bryant and Saban, when Bama was largely not as successful as they were under the Bear or as they are now.

[Bass Chaser]

hmmm. good to know.

Same for me.