Sunday Morning QB- Everything Went Right Edition

[Coach34]

1. Didnt get fancy with the food on such a good football day. Ribeye, sauteed green beans, and baked okra.

2. Should have been a profitable weekend for you guys that bet on college football. Easy wins on Thursday night. BYU has been money this year. Bama and State were obvious picks to me all week with the teasers. Kept saying I didnt think Calzone could put up more than 23 on us and knew all it would take to cover was 10 points by us. Knew Bama would expose Lame and that D. Felt great about teasing Kentucky at home to plus 14.5. Plus some others. Only ND and WV kept it from being a complete celebration weekend.

3. I sat here watching the Bama/Mississippi game as Lame kept going for it on 4th down. It got to the point I felt like the producer in the truck from the movie Tin Cup- "Will somebody tell this idiot he doesn't have to hit from there". Then I got the same feeling again during our game against A&M. Team after team has followed the blueprint against our offense turning it into the Airbone. So what did Elko do? **** that- I'm going to show you how I do it.

The 1st Q started out with them stemming- having the LB's walked up trying to give Rogers a false look. Then they would drop at the snap or right before. The problem with that was that they werent getting back into their zones quick enough doing that- didnt all game. Then that morphed into some zone blitz- and that accomplished nothing for them. So on the 3rd as we were moving in their territory again- he finally went to the 3-8. So what happened- drive stalled and we missed the FG. He stayed in it on the next drive- what happened? 5 plays and punt. At that point I began to worry it may be tough sledding the rest of the game. But fear not- Elko had had enough defensive success so he had to start coaching again. He went to man under- single high which led to a 5 play TD drive. TV replay had a great shot of Calvin beating his man down the seam and single high safety unable to get there.

I love when hardheaded coaches get what they deserve. Bo Pellini last year. Elko this year. We will see who is next.

4. Best game all year for the Airbone. Once again we ran over 20 more plays than our opponent. Great job of beating A&M to their drops and we got more balls up the field. RB catches were down to 13 this week. We almost scored again on the pick route we run alot inside the 20 vs man to the RB but Marks was pushed OOB and we ended up kicking the FG. We have got to find some better to do in the RZ.

5. Even though we gave up 3 sacks technically- the OL is playing good ball. On the first one we had all day to throw. Their next test will be their toughest all year. Hopefully we will be good and healthy for it.

6. Very surprised A&M was able to average 5 per carry against the D. Especially with them starting 2 true freshman on the OL. But they got physical with us at times. I thought Jett played pretty well on his run fits. He'll never be an AA in pass coverage but is becoming a pretty good LB against the run.

7. We got some pressure on Calzone when we needed at some crucial times. Jimbo protected him and they only threw 20 passes. Kind of expected that. They had a really good playcall on the bootleg to start the game and Calzone turned that into a pick by us. Peters seemed to be where he needed to be much more this week. Of course, that should be expected against a much more conservative offense like A&M is running currently.

8. Good win- thats the bottom line. On the road. The Airbone rolled. A&M has more SEC losses coming their way. Jimbo has a little cred built up after last season and now losing his QB- but the expectations will be there for him in 2022. Orgeron losing last night did him no favors either. With them gathering info to try and fire him for cause to save some money- he is giving those on the fence about it more reason to join the other side.

9. Myself and a few other MSU Mafia members had been waiting all Summer and Fall for yesterday. All the Mississippi Rebel hype this offseason. All the hype this past week for a game Vegas set at a 2 TD spread. We knew it would crash. Saban doesnt have all these analysts for no reason. They have been studying the OM offense for months. You knew they would be ready and play better against it. Talent that's coach well and motivated is hard to beat. It's always so much fun watching those douchebags get all pumped up- poking that chest out- and to watch it all come crashing down again on top of them. Just pisses me off every year when they make me have to root for Bama. I feel like I should have a cousin watching that game with me every year.

10. Got to find a way to tweak college football a little. Were about to see Bama/Georgia play for the SEC title the first Sat in December and then they will turn around and play again a month later for the NC. Not sure Georgia has the QB to pull it off- but they certainly have the D.

Hail State

[WeDemBoyz]

Dipshit

[ShotgunDawg]

Everything went right?

[ShotgunDawg]

Good post C34. The info was better than title.

Very much agree with the last part about UGA & Bama. The sport needs a tweaking

[BuckyIsAB****]

The vast majority of snaps they only brought 3 or 4 guys. I do agree that he tried some different looks but for the most part it was the same thing we have gotten from everyone else. Theres a reason we dont even watch much film of these teams before they play us. We watch last years film against us or someone who runs what we do. They did the same thing they did last year, and that is from the kid who played it and didnt and watch it from the couch.

Defensively Arnett has to help the safeties and get them out of situations they cant do more. He is asking guys who arent great cover guys to win one on one on too many 3rd downs. We do not have a good cover safety on the roster. I would be fine putting Richardson or somebody else who can cover some at S just for those situations. We misfit a lot of zones especially cutbacks all night long. We also struggled to tackle that hasnt been an issue all year but it def was last night. We were tackling way too high and it beat us. We have a lot to fix defensively and I think some of it is scheme. We move around just about too much and it hurts us on our fits. I thought the DL was pretty good our LBs and Safeties did not help us at all. Arnett is very predictable right now and he has a big problem vs trips sets. He has got to do something other than 0 coverage and bringing pressure bc they scored twice off it. Lsu did, Memphis did. Now we have gotten some sacks and we did have some good moments. The safety clinched the game. But it wasnt anything crazy just a DL twist that got home. I think he is being a little too cute rn.

Special teams are an absolute disaster

[BayouDawg]

Agree with point about improvement in the red zone. I think being able to run the ball in the red zone is the key. Thats how this offense was successful in red zone at wazzu and tech.

[Coach34]

They played more Man/Under than we have seen this season. You could see it pretty easily.

Also- you know as well as I do getting your pass drops to your zone is a lot easier from 5 yards off the ball than from 1 yard off the ball where you are having to open your hips and sprint back to your zone. Their LB’s weren’t able to redirect or adjust to our WR’s. Not to mention when you drop from 5- you can keep your eyes on what happening in front of you much more easily. They were sprinting back from 1 yards with their head turned back and forth unable to read what was going on

Just a very stupid strategy

[Santiago]

I bet 125 years ago, if you had been around you would have all types of nicknames for the Horseless Carriage and insisted the old way of wagons and horses was "what we do".

[BuckyIsAB****]

They played more Man/Under than we have seen this season. You could see it pretty easily.

Also- you know as well as I do getting your pass drops to your zone is a lot easier from 5 yards off the ball than from 1 yard off the ball where you are having to open your hips and sprint back to your zone. Their LB’s weren’t able to redirect or adjust to our WR’s. Not to mention when you drop from 5- you can keep your eyes on what happening in front of you much more easily. They were sprinting back from 1 yards with their head turned back and forth unable to read what was going on

Just a very stupid strategy

Sure they showed and dropped some but you are acting like it was every single play. We beat the drop 8 enough to win the game. 24 and 85 are the drop 8 beaters. They are going to get open and catch the ball. We threw perimeter game and handed it off to get them out of it. Its ok to admit it. It was fitting that we ran the ball to end the game. We even ran speed option. Red zone is still a struggle for Hs and we are very very predictable down there. But nobody all year has kept us bottled up the entire game. NC State did the best job of it and that win is going to look really good by the end of the year. I still am not in love with it but the kids play hard and they deserve a win. I personally would never marry myself to the pure air raid but Leach does and he wins. It wont be the last win either.

[Santiago]

Sure they showed and dropped some but you are acting like it was every single play. We beat the drop 8 enough to win the game. 24 and 85 are the drop 8 beaters. They are going to get open and catch the ball. We threw perimeter game and handed it off to get them out of it. Its ok to admit it. It was fitting that we ran the ball to end the game. We even ran speed option. Red zone is still a struggle for Hs and we are very very predictable down there. But nobody all year has kept us bottled up the entire game. NC State did the best job of it and that win is going to look really good by the end of the year. I still am not in love with it but the kids play hard and they deserve a win. I personally would never marry myself to the pure air raid but Leach does and he wins. It wont be the last win either.

SEC Network guys also mentioned how the Aggie DL looked gassed from chasing sideline to sideline on plays, an all those 5 yard plays down the field for 8 minutes was wearing them down. I think they had to try some different looks, as you said, because we were wearing them out in their zone D.
This Will Rogers , with these receivers, if playing last year would have busted the zone on Kentucky and Arkansas as well.

[BuckyIsAB****]

And I will add this, we wont see a more talented DL all year than what we saw last night. They are loaded

[thf24]

They played more Man/Under than we have seen this season. You could see it pretty easily.

Also- you know as well as I do getting your pass drops to your zone is a lot easier from 5 yards off the ball than from 1 yard off the ball where you are having to open your hips and sprint back to your zone. Their LB?s weren?t able to redirect or adjust to our WR?s. Not to mention when you drop from 5- you can keep your eyes on what happening in front of you much more easily. They were sprinting back from 1 yards with their head turned back and forth unable to read what was going on

Just a very stupid strategy

You're oversimplifying it at this point in order to hold on to your narrative. None of these coaches are stupid, you're not seeing things they aren't. If it was as simple as primarily dropping 8 in zone to stall our offense when executing adequately, they'd do it. The fact that A&M didn't last night means it's not, period.

[Lord McBuckethead]

And I will add this, we wont see a more talented DL all year than what we saw last night. They are loaded

Bama's is better. No doubt. Auburn's may be better.
Stats don't tell the entire story. Our OLine handled them yesterday, I doubt we do against the two alabama teams.

[William Tecumsah Sherman]

I agree with Coach that it was stupid for their DC to do what he did. But I also like that we exploited it immediately and took advantage. We deserve credit for that.

[Activated Alpha]

I have never seen C34 praise or talk up any sports team of Mississippi State even when Mullen was here. He was always negative about everything. Literally, every damn sport. Either he hates the coach or a player and will call out names on everyone. Do you ever get tired of being so negative all the time?

[ShotgunDawg]

They played more Man/Under than we have seen this season. You could see it pretty easily.

Also- you know as well as I do getting your pass drops to your zone is a lot easier from 5 yards off the ball than from 1 yard off the ball where you are having to open your hips and sprint back to your zone. Their LB’s weren’t able to redirect or adjust to our WR’s. Not to mention when you drop from 5- you can keep your eyes on what happening in front of you much more easily. They were sprinting back from 1 yards with their head turned back and forth unable to read what was going on

Just a very stupid strategy

Wouldn’t we run it more if they were 5 yards off?

[ShotgunDawg]

I have never seen C34 praise or talk up any sports team of Mississippi State even when Mullen was here. He was always negative about everything. Literally, every damn sport. Either he hates the coach or a player and will call out names on everyone. Do you ever get tired of being so negative all the time?

That’s just the coach in him. I do it as well.

Don’t take it as much as being negative as always looking for ways to improve.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Bama's is better. No doubt. Auburn's may be better.
Stats don't tell the entire story. Our OLine handled them yesterday, I doubt we do against the two alabama teams.

If they are it wont be by much

[STATEBALLIN]

Wrong.

Elko changed it up because Will was shredding the drop 8.

[BuckyIsAB****]

That’s just the coach in him. I do it as well.

Don’t take it as much as being negative as always looking for ways to improve.

But 34 is acting like we didnt beat the drop 8. We did. And have before. Only reason we didnt win the last 2 was our fault. LSU and Memphis did it all game

[Vandownbytheriver]

That’s just the coach in him. I do it as well.

Don’t take it as much as being negative as always looking for ways to improve.

This I don't buy. If he was the savant he wants people to believe, he'd be getting paid big money to coach somewhere. He likes to rile people up and is quite good at it. He drives hits and comments. For what he is, he's a master at his craft. And that craft is coming up with ridiculous takes that change to fit a precontrived narrative he and a few others create. From Airbone to The Network to ITS COMING. People love to read his newest outlandish take and hope he's proven wrong so they can call him out.

[DownwardDawg]

Our special teams are garbage and we committed very untimely penalties last night. We left 9-13 points on the table we should have scored. Defense didn't have a great game either. I'm still looking forward to the "everything went right" game. That'll be fun to watch.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Our special teams are garbage and we committed very untimely penalties last night. We left 9-13 points on the table we should have scored. Defense didn't have a great game either. I'm still looking forward to the "everything went right" game. That'll be fun to watch.

Exactly.

[Activated Alpha]

That?s just the coach in him. I do it as well.

Don?t take it as much as being negative as always looking for ways to improve.

I also don't buy this. I have been in management and leadership for several years. I'm also a parent to multiple boys. There is a difference between constructive criticism and talking up points of improvement and all around negativity. Negativity radiates off him and I personally believe that he enjoys it. Now I'm not saying everyone should be sunshine pumpers, but every program across our sports with multiple teams and coaches he tears down. He is trying to prove his point on why A&M lost the game, not why State won the game.

[Coach34]

You're oversimplifying it at this point in order to hold on to your narrative. None of these coaches are stupid, you're not seeing things they aren't. If it was as simple as primarily dropping 8 in zone to stall our offense when executing adequately, they'd do it. The fact that A&M didn't last night means it's not, period.

Actually I’m not. Those coaches aren’t stupid but it doesn’t mean they don’t do dumb things. We all do. Walking their LB’s up like that did nothing to mess with Rogers reads and it hurt the LB’s getting into their zones. The LB’s were not able to play downhill and use their eyes the way they would had they been able to just backpedal 3-4 yards and read.

We saw a perfect example of it early on with Walley making a catch behind the Mike as the Mike was dropping from 1 yard. He had no idea where the WR was because he was looking back at the LOS as he was running backwards

[Coach34]

Wrong.

Elko changed it up because Will was shredding the drop 8.

Simply not true.

Heath’s 22 yard catch on the hitch route was him and CB 1 on 1. Heath broke the tackle and the safety had to come over and make the play. That’s not “Drop 8”

Polk’s first TD was against Man Under/1 High. That’s not “Drop 8”

Both of those occurred in the 1st half.

[Coach34]

Wouldn’t we run it more if they were 5 yards off?

We did against LSU

[memsu06]

Checkout the QB Stats at ESPN. Will Rogers is ranked #3 and Matt Corral is at 35.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/stats/player/_/view/offense/table/passing/sort/passingYards/dir/desc

[Todd4State]

Our offense will get better and better every week as Will continues to develop and we get more and more comfortable throwing the ball downfield.

[TrapGame]

Simply not true.

Heath’s 22 yard catch on the hitch route was him and CB 1 on 1. Heath broke the tackle and the safety had to come over and make the play. That’s not “Drop 8”

Polk’s first TD was against Man Under/1 High. That’s not “Drop 8”

Both of those occurred in the 1st half.

Of course it wasn't drop 8 on those precise plays. Every time they dropped 8 Will found a hole. We were putting together 12 play drives. Elko was mixing it up to try something that would pressure Will. It didn't work.

Jesus, you just gotta die on that hill don't you?

[basedog]

No way Aggies DL are as good or better yet coached as well as Bama. Aggies were confused and lost last night. If we not have had the meltdown when we had a chance to put them away we win easily at the end.

Aggies are way over rated and I'm not taken that as a slap to us. We outplayed and mostly out coached them last night except for special team play.

[OLJWales]

Are we capable of a 4yd per carry game this year? I reckon as long as we win the question is moot. Proud as hell right now but my old ass still getting used to this shit.

[BayouDawg]

Simply not true.

Heath’s 22 yard catch on the hitch route was him and CB 1 on 1. Heath broke the tackle and the safety had to come over and make the play. That’s not “Drop 8”

Polk’s first TD was against Man Under/1 High. That’s not “Drop 8”

Both of those occurred in the 1st half.

So 2 plays mean they didnt run drop 8 a good bit? Interesting

[oldjoedawg]

This I don't buy. If he was the savant he wants people to believe, he'd be getting paid big money to coach somewhere. He likes to rile people up and is quite good at it. He drives hits and comments. For what he is, he's a master at his craft. And that craft is coming up with ridiculous takes that change to fit a precontrived narrative he and a few others create. From Airbone to The Network to ITS COMING. People love to read his newest outlandish take and hope he's proven wrong so they can call him out.

beerfarley has hit the proverbial nail on the head.....if C34 was 'all that', he'd be 'doing' instead of 'spewing'.....he at least gives me something to laugh about.

[Coach34]

So 2 plays mean they didnt run drop 8 a good bit? Interesting

I think its some of you are not understanding the differences in Coverages I guess. Drop 8 refers to a 4 deep Cover 4 zone that keeps 2 Safeties on the hashes. The man underneath/1 high and other coverages out of it hasnt been what has given us trouble.

[DownwardDawg]

Are we capable of a 4yd per carry game this year? I reckon as long as we win the question is moot. Proud as hell right now but my old ass still getting used to this shit.

Lol. I'm with you!
I finally watched a game and I was yelling "run the damn ball"!!!' I guess I'm outdated.

[DownwardDawg]

This I don't buy. If he was the savant he wants people to believe, he'd be getting paid big money to coach somewhere. He likes to rile people up and is quite good at it. He drives hits and comments. For what he is, he's a master at his craft. And that craft is coming up with ridiculous takes that change to fit a precontrived narrative he and a few others create. From Airbone to The Network to ITS COMING. People love to read his newest outlandish take and hope he's proven wrong so they can call him out.

He is very much like Paul Finebaum. New nickname maybe???

[BayouDawg]

I think its some of you are not understanding the differences in Coverages I guess. Drop 8 refers to a 4 deep Cover 4 zone that keeps 2 Safeties on the hashes. The man underneath/1 high and other coverages out of it hasnt been what has given us trouble.

Ah yes its me not understanding a team switching to man after getting gutted in the drop 8. Silly me. Carry on with your comedy tour.

[99jc]

AIRHEAD 34 you are such a dick. I don't think I have ever encountered an individual who is such a pretentious know it all who never admits he is wrong ever. i bet people cringe that know you when they see you coming.

[BayouDawg]

AIRHEAD 34 you are such a dick. I don't think I have ever encountered an individual who is such a pretentious know it all who never admits he is wrong ever. i bet people cringe that know you when they see you coming.

A person that can never admit they are wrong is quite the psychological specimen.

[Hambone]

Checkout the QB Stats at ESPN. Will Rogers is ranked #3 and Matt Corral is at 35.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/stats/player/_/view/offense/table/passing/sort/passingYards/dir/desc

Don’t you bring positive stats on this board! Don’t you know (1) Will isn’t the best QB on our team (2) He isn’t an SEC quarter back (3) He has a noodle arm (4) He isn’t athletic (5) All of his yards are in garbage time….

Think I covered all the main talking points so far

[DEDawg]

Checkout the QB Stats at ESPN. Will Rogers is ranked #3 and Matt Corral is at 35.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/stats/player/_/view/offense/table/passing/sort/passingYards/dir/desc

Did you realize you filtered by yards??

[R2Dawg]

I also don't buy this. I have been in management and leadership for several years. I'm also a parent to multiple boys. There is a difference between constructive criticism and talking up points of improvement and all around negativity. Negativity radiates off him and I personally believe that he enjoys it. Now I'm not saying everyone should be sunshine pumpers, but every program across our sports with multiple teams and coaches he tears down. He is trying to prove his point on why A&M lost the game, not why State won the game.

Funny when people repeat something you disagree with it is usually taken as negative. If you are in leadership, you should understand when people complain that management ain't listening what they are saying is you are not doing what I am telling you. Doesn't mean they are not listening, means they don't agree with you most of the time.

There is a difference in excuses and reasons. If you disagree you take as excuses, to others it is a reason.

We can agree to disagree and still intellectually discuss a topic or we should. Some people just have a high view of their views. If your view is so great then make an argument. When folks don't have an argument they usually default to insults.

[R2Dawg]

Don’t you bring positive stats on this board! Don’t you know (1) Will isn’t the best QB on our team (2) He isn’t an SEC quarter back (3) He has a noodle arm (4) He isn’t athletic (5) All of his yards are in garbage time….

Think I covered all the main talking points so far

No you left out one - Will is the only problem on our team. Everything else is great. All Will's fault.

[Westdawg]

I think its some of you are not understanding the differences in Coverages I guess. Drop 8 refers to a 4 deep Cover 4 zone that keeps 2 Safeties on the hashes. The man underneath/1 high and other coverages out of it hasnt been what has given us trouble.

I always had a Cover 4 Cloud set we?d run out of all our packages. Principle was the same ? keep it all in front of you.
There are some ways to beat it. I loved that I saw us in a lot more trips sets last night as I think that can disrupt some of their zones. But it?s going to have to get faster tempo which we did last night as well. The deeper cross and slants are going to need to attack with depth across hook/curl to open up the shallower cross and the run. Make those LBs commit to deeper drops and then attack underneath and to the flats quickly.

[Hambone]

No you left out one - Will is the only problem on our team. Everything else is great. All Will's fault.

I knew I forgot one! Yep, that covers it

[Activated Alpha]

Funny when people repeat something you disagree with it is usually taken as negative. If you are in leadership, you should understand when people complain that management ain't listening what they are saying is you are not doing what I am telling you. Doesn't mean they are not listening, means they don't agree with you most of the time.

There is a difference in excuses and reasons. If you disagree you take as excuses, to others it is a reason.

We can agree to disagree and still intellectually discuss a topic or we should. Some people just have a high view of their views. If your view is so great then make an argument. When folks don't have an argument they usually default to insults.

My quote is to Shotgun saying he provided coach speak and wasn't negative. However he has a very long track record and multiple messages that proves otherwise. I listen to him and enjoy reading his posts usually, but what he is doing is bashing our team over and over and over again. Even when Mullen was here, Stansbury, Schafer, Dak, Canny, Cohen, Henderson, etc. he belittles the coaches or players. That isn't coach speak or leadership. I agree with him saying that Leach needs to adjust and add wrinkles to his game, but his line in the sand belief that Leach will never work here isn't reason. Like I said, he didn't give reasons to why State won. He provided excuses to as why A&M lost.

[Coach34]

My quote is to Shotgun saying he provided coach speak and wasn't negative. However he has a very long track record and multiple messages that proves otherwise. I listen to him and enjoy reading his posts usually, but what he is doing is bashing our team over and over and over again. Even when Mullen was here, Stansbury, Schafer, Dak, Canny, Cohen, Henderson, etc. he belittles the coaches or players. That isn't coach speak or leadership. I agree with him saying that Leach needs to adjust and add wrinkles to his game, but his line in the sand belief that Leach will never work here isn't reason. Like I said, he didn't give reasons to why State won. He provided excuses to as why A&M lost.

This is where people go off the rails. I enjoyed Mullen being here. I wrote time again before he ever coached a snap why we would be better with him. His playcalling wasnt perfect, he didnt recruit hard enough, and shopped around during Egg Bowl week too much- but I enjoyed Mullen as a coach. I'm one of the bigger defenders of Howland on the board. What's negative about me saying we should have a great shot at the Sweet 16 this March? You throwing a bunch of coaches names out means nothing. I talk about the good and the bad. Dak seriously? All the posts I went thru talking about how he was going to be our next good QB before he got on campus? Fighting all the Tyler Russell worshippers? Man get out of here with that mess.

I speak out about things I see going on. I'm not a sunshine pumper. I look for problems, chinks in the armor. I said last night's win was a good one even tho we are likely to see A&M lose a few more games down the line. But it was a road win in the West- and thats always good.

As was said- some people just get mad because I dont pump sunshine all the time and love for me to be wrong because I'm dead on so often. But hey- JoMo just needs to his QB on campus right?

[BayouDawg]

All the some people just get mad because I dont pump sunshine all the time and love for me to be wrong because I'm dead on so often.

This is some next level humor. Never change. You bring much laughter to my life.

[chef dixon]

Didn't C34 coin "Dak and dunk"

[Coach34]

Didn't C34 coin "Dak and dunk"

No- I called him Checkdown Charlie in 2015. Which is who we have at QB currently

[BayouDawg]

Hunter renfroe just wont ever make it in the big leagues either.

[BayouDawg]

Hiring Howland is a pipe dream
We aint hiring the pirate
Jeremy asparagus Pruitt would be a great hire

Dead on

[Coach34]

Hunter renfroe just wont ever make it in the big leagues either.

I missed that one. Renfroe made alot of changes and it worked out. Nothing but happy for him. Good Bulldog

Hey- tell me- do we have a good chance to win at Auburn again like we did in 2019? Or will we have a good chance to beat them at home like we did in 2020?

[BayouDawg]

I missed that one. Renfroe made alot of changes and it worked out. Nothing but happy for him. Good Bulldog

Hey- tell me- do we have a good chance to win at Auburn again like we did in 2019? Or will we have a good chance to beat them at home like we did in 2020?

With this team outside of Alabama I wouldnt be surprised if we lost or won any of them.

[BayouDawg]

Its all in good fun coach. I just couldnt resist after the dead on comment. You set it up on a tee for me.

[Coach34]

Hiring Howland is a pipe dream
We aint hiring the pirate
Jeremy asparagus Pruitt would be a great hire

Dead on

Croom's offense will never work
Stands will never make a Sweet 16
Mullen's offense will improve alot over Croom's
Dak Prescott will take Tyler Russell's job
We have the best pitching staff in the country- 2020
Dan Mullen is in talks to be Tenn's HC
Mullen interviewed at Miami during Egg Bowl week
2014's team will compete for the SEC title
Orgeron wont be fired within 3 years at LSU
Malzahn will win the SEC West in 2013
2020 will be Auburn's chance to fire Malzahn

and on and on and on

[memsu06]

I really think we have a chance with the Air Raid to upset some of the top teams in college football.

Think about the games in the past where MSU nearly pulled the upset but didn't. It came down to execution and we didn't execute when we needed to. We got manhandled by the team with more 5 star recruits than us. You had our guys going head to head against players ranked 2 stars higher than them and at the end of games it wasn't enough.

The Air Raid is all about repetition and execution. It becomes muscle memory to these players which in turn gives them an edge against competition that's higher rated than them. If we can be execute the plays properly we'll win.

That being said if we aren't executing it properly it looks much like last year.

Leach never had high recruiting rankings at Washington State or Texas Tech and only a year or two did he have a good defense at Texas Tech. Now he's got players ranked higher than he's ever had and a functional defense.

We see what Mullen has done with all the extra talent he has at Florida and he's still not getting it done there in the easier SEC East. Georgia is now his yearly loss like Alabama was.

We have a higher ceiling with Mike Leach if the players and fans buy in.

[Activated Alpha]

This is where people go off the rails. I enjoyed Mullen being here. I wrote time again before he ever coached a snap why we would be better with him. His playcalling wasnt perfect, he didnt recruit hard enough, and shopped around during Egg Bowl week too much- but I enjoyed Mullen as a coach. I'm one of the bigger defenders of Howland on the board. What's negative about me saying we should have a great shot at the Sweet 16 this March? You throwing a bunch of coaches names out means nothing. I talk about the good and the bad. Dak seriously? All the posts I went thru talking about how he was going to be our next good QB before he got on campus? Fighting all the Tyler Russell worshippers? Man get out of here with that mess.

I speak out about things I see going on. I'm not a sunshine pumper. I look for problems, chinks in the armor. I said last night's win was a good one even tho we are likely to see A&M lose a few more games down the line. But it was a road win in the West- and thats always good.

As was said- some people just get mad because I dont pump sunshine all the time and love for me to be wrong because I'm dead on so often. But hey- JoMo just needs to his QB on campus right?

I ain?t asking ye to be a sunshine pumper. I generally enjoy reading your comments and your posts but I have noticed that you are more negative with all of it. Now you might just be that type of individual that sees more negatives than positives and enjoys telling everyone about it (my 74 year old mother does this still) but you cannot acknowledge that we had a good gameplan and executed better than any other week. The majority of the game post was how A&M lost the game and not how we exposed them. I am not sold on Leach just yet but I can appreciate them when they do well. I am not the only one that is noticing how you post and comment regarding our coaches or players. Just rethink some things is all I am saying

[BayouDawg]

Croom's offense will never work
Stands will never make a Sweet 16
Mullen's offense will improve alot over Croom's
Dak Prescott will take Tyler Russell's job
We have the best pitching staff in the country- 2020
Dan Mullen is in talks to be Tenn's HC
Mullen interviewed at Miami during Egg Bowl week
2014's team will compete for the SEC title
Orgeron wont be fired within 3 years at LSU
Malzahn will win the SEC West in 2013
2020 will be Auburn's chance to fire Malzahn

and on and on and on

Credit where credit is due. And I was in agreement with all those. But youre gonna get your balls busted when you put yourself on a pedestal. Comes with the territory.

[Coach34]

Credit where credit is due. And I was in agreement with all those. But youre gonna get your balls busted when you put yourself on a pedestal. Comes with the territory.

And I obviously have no problem with that or I would ha e stopped posting long ago

[BayouDawg]

And I obviously have no problem with that or I would ha e stopped posting long ago

And thats why you are one of my favorite posters.

[R2Dawg]

My quote is to Shotgun saying he provided coach speak and wasn't negative. However he has a very long track record and multiple messages that proves otherwise. I listen to him and enjoy reading his posts usually, but what he is doing is bashing our team over and over and over again. Even when Mullen was here, Stansbury, Schafer, Dak, Canny, Cohen, Henderson, etc. he belittles the coaches or players. That isn't coach speak or leadership. I agree with him saying that Leach needs to adjust and add wrinkles to his game, but his line in the sand belief that Leach will never work here isn't reason. Like I said, he didn't give reasons to why State won. He provided excuses to as why A&M lost.

I get it and understand. I agree or disagree with lots of parts and pieces of a lot of posters including 34. I don't take anyone's opinion personally like many. I wish folks could just give an opinion without everyone reacting by telling everyone how dumb they are or how they are not an MSU fan or how much smarter they are than everyone else.

Everyone on here wears their feelings on their sleeves.

[Coach34]

I ain?t asking ye to be a sunshine pumper. I generally enjoy reading your comments and your posts but I have noticed that you are more negative with all of it. Now you might just be that type of individual that sees more negatives than positives and enjoys telling everyone about it (my 74 year old mother does this still) but you cannot acknowledge that we had a good gameplan and executed better than any other week. The majority of the game post was how A&M lost the game and not how we exposed them. I am not sold on Leach just yet but I can appreciate them when they do well. I am not the only one that is noticing how you post and comment regarding our coaches or players. Just rethink some things is all I am saying

I guess the disconnect is where my mind works vs how it’s viewed online.

As a coach- I can’t imagine any team defensively not play a rush 3- 4 underneath- and 4 up top coverage against us. It bogs this offense down to a 1978 Wishbone offense that is grinding out 13 play drives for points.

To me the story of the game was the way A&M played defense. The stemming with walked up LB’s that had trouble getting into their drop zones. The man underneath single safety coverages. The leaving a freshman CB 1 on 1 with Heath vs Trips instead of having the underneath guy to support him.

Elko tried to outcoach Leach Saturday and he was made to look stupid for it. I guess I should have spelled that more obviously in my post.

[BayouDawg]

I guess the disconnect is where my mind works vs how it’s viewed online.

As a coach- I can’t imagine any team defensively not play a rush 3- 4 underneath- and 4 up top coverage against us. It bogs this offense down to a 1978 Wishbone offense that is grinding out 13 play drives for points.

To me the story of the game was the way A&M played defense. The stemming with walked up LB’s that had trouble getting into their drop zones. The man underneath single safety coverages. The leaving a freshman CB 1 on 1 with Heath vs Trips instead of having the underneath guy to support him.

Elko tried to outcoach Leach Saturday and he was made to look stupid for it. I guess I should have spelled that more obviously in my post.

I think a point lost too is how Elko is a strictly man to man guy. His guys may not have been comfortable playing zone which is why we found so much space in their zone. so he tried to switch it up some.

[Coach34]

I think a point lost too is how Elko is a strictly man to man guy. His guys may not have been comfortable playing zone which is why we found so much space in their zone. so he tried to switch it up some.

And yet again- that points again to system vs what needs to be done. Some coaches got to run their system as opposed to doing what would win. If they had spent all week practicing 4 high Cover 4- our game ends differently with their talent. They would have won considering their offense scored 22. But Elko couldn’t do it and had to outscheme Leach.

As I said- who will be the next coach that tries this down the line after Bama?

[BayouDawg]

And yet again- that points again to system vs what needs to be done. Some coaches got to run their system as opposed to doing what would win. If they had spent all week practicing 4 high Cover 4- our game ends differently with their talent. They would have won considering their offense scored 22. But Elko couldn’t do it and had to outscheme Leach.

As I said- who will be the next coach that tries this down the line after Bama?

We shall see. I think the drop 8 is just hoping we stop ourselves which can only work for so long. Only time will tell.

[basedog]

Here my take on 34 and what he was saying. He wasn't bashing MSU or the Pirate, he was bashing the defensive game plan by the Aggies! It was a stupid overall game plan. I saw early on they were playing man a lot on the outside. They looked confused and lost. The Pirate and Rogers execution was spot on and as we all saw we kicked their ass!

34 makes a lot of points about the game. I don't always agree but I ain't gonna go ape sh*t like some have.

We all make crazy post or statements sometimes, he'll it's a message board. Quit getting your panties in a wad. We all want MSU to win, it's we see things on what to do sometimes.

Ok im done so too each their own!

[MrCoachKlein]

Anyone else feel like C34 is Edith in Dewey Cox? "You're never gonna make it!"

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