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CaptainObvious
09-28-2021, 09:56 AM
Ole Miss is:

?Alabama arrogance with a Vanderbilt Trophy Case?

StarkVegasSteve
09-28-2021, 10:06 AM
I like Fowler a lot. He's pretty honest about things when it comes to Bama as well as other teams. I'm sure it's a lot easier when you cover Bama, but I do enjoy that he's not a complete homer and sunshine pumper.

Dawg-gone-dawgs
09-28-2021, 10:20 AM
Ole Miss is:

?Alabama arrogance with a Vanderbilt Trophy Case?

Our message boards will implode when OM beats Bama

Santiago
09-28-2021, 10:25 AM
I liked that he called them "Mississippi" and noted as much that Ole Miss doesn't like that.

StarkVegasSteve
09-28-2021, 10:25 AM
Our message boards will implode when OM beats Bama

They've had defensive analysts looking at OM since the summer. They'll be ready for anything Lane tries to throw at them. They're going to make Conner and the RBs beat them. They're going to make Corral throw the deep ball more than he's comfortable with. The way you slow down that offense is take away the short to intermediate passes that let them get the tempo going wide open.

Santiago
09-28-2021, 10:26 AM
Ole Miss has let some inferior teams put up some points on their defense, and I would think easily that Bama doubles that output.

Commercecomet24
09-28-2021, 10:34 AM
They've had defensive analysts looking at OM since the summer. They'll be ready for anything Lane tries to throw at them. They're going to make Conner and the RBs beat them. They're going to make Corral throw the deep ball more than he's comfortable with. The way you slow down that offense is take away the short to intermediate passes that let them get the tempo going wide open.

This and om defense won't stop bama offense.

StarkVegasSteve
09-28-2021, 10:38 AM
This and om defense won't stop bama offense.

I didn't think that one had to be added. Bryce Young might throw for 500 yds on Saturday.

Jack Lambert
09-28-2021, 10:39 AM
They've had defensive analysts looking at OM since the summer. They'll be ready for anything Lane tries to throw at them. They're going to make Conner and the RBs beat them. They're going to make Corral throw the deep ball more than he's comfortable with. The way you slow down that offense is take away the short to intermediate passes that let them get the tempo going wide open.

Mullen did not like off weeks. The team can get unfocused and will be rusty. He said that they are great later in season to get injuries better but can hurt on field performance. I think the off week will hurt Ole Miss. Corral will have interceptions. Just an opinion.

StarkVegasSteve
09-28-2021, 10:41 AM
Mullen did not like off weeks. The team can get unfocused and will be rusty. He said that they are great later in season to get injuries better but can hurt on field performance. I think the off week will hurt Ole Miss. Corral will have interceptions. Just an opinion.

No doubt. As I said I think Saban is going to bait Corral to throw the deep ball with dummy looks at the line. I think you'll see some Cover 2 to try to bait him to fit it between the corner and safety. I don't think he has the patience, or the line, to be able to hold the ball and try to look that safety off.

Jack Lambert
09-28-2021, 10:54 AM
No doubt. As I said I think Saban is going to bait Corral to throw the deep ball with dummy looks at the line. I think you'll see some Cover 2 to try to bait him to fit it between the corner and safety. I don't think he has the patience, or the line, to be able to hold the ball and try to look that safety off.

First of all I am not a coach. I have watched all the replays of their games. From what I can see with my untrained eyes is, once the defense sets up, Corral reads it, at that point he knows who he is going to throw too and where he is going to throw it. He does not check down to next receivers, as fast as he can he is throwing the ball to that receiver even if he is going deep. There is not much thinking on his part once the ball is snap which allow him to get rid of the ball fast. Again that's my untrained eyes.

StarkVegasSteve
09-28-2021, 11:01 AM
First of all I am not a coach. I have watched all the replays of their games. From what I can see with my untrained eyes is, once the defense sets up, Corral reads it, at that point he knows who he is going to throw too and where he is going to throw it. He does not check down to next receivers, as fast as he can he is throwing the ball to that receiver even if he is going deep. There is not much thinking on his part once the ball is snap which allow him to get rid of the ball fast. Again that's my untrained eyes.

You're not wrong. No inside knowledge but I imagine when Kiffin and him put in the gameplan each week they go through his predetermined read of where he's going with the ball. Basically there's no reading coverage or defense at the line, it's here's where I'm going with the ball and if he's not open I either check down to a back, throw it away, or tuck and run.

Dental Dawg33
09-28-2021, 12:25 PM
This and om defense won't stop bama offense.

I think the same. OM can score, but their defense is still suspect at best. I think it is about to show that their D is better than last year but not near what they think it is.

OLJWales
09-28-2021, 12:34 PM
17 Slave Owning Confeds. They can Go to Hell and Die.

MrCoachKlein
09-28-2021, 12:40 PM
That's not fair to Vanderbilt. They have 2 natties in baseball.

Hambone
09-28-2021, 01:23 PM
They're going to make Corral throw the deep ball more than he's comfortable with.

That isn’t possible…… Honestly kid has the biggest arm of any of the college QB’s and will throw the deep ball all day long if they let him.

Tbonewannabe
09-28-2021, 02:12 PM
That's not fair to Vanderbilt. They have 2 natties in baseball.

Ole Miss has a Women's Golf trophy. That has to count for something along with Oxford Gazette National Championship from the 60s.

Vandownbytheriver
09-28-2021, 02:14 PM
I honestly don't know who to root against this weekend. Growing up in Columbus there were more sidewalk Bama fans than OM fans and I have a deep seeded hatred for all things Tide. Living in Lafayette county has giving me not necessarily a hatred for OM, but a strong dislike of their perceived superiority for no reason. This year it's incredibly bad. Neither one of these fanbases handle defeat or success well. Either way, I'll enjoy annoying the hell out of someone in my family.

Jack Lambert
09-28-2021, 03:02 PM
I honestly don't know who to root against this weekend. Growing up in Columbus there were more sidewalk Bama fans than OM fans and I have a deep seeded hatred for all things Tide. Living in Lafayette county has giving me not necessarily a hatred for OM, but a strong dislike of their perceived superiority for no reason. This year it's incredibly bad. Neither one of these fanbases handle defeat or success well. Either way, I'll enjoy annoying the hell out of someone in my family.

Kind of like watching a old WWII movie where the Germans are fighting the Russians. No matter who dies a bad person died.

OLJWales
09-28-2021, 04:09 PM
Kind of like watching a old WWII movie where the Germans are fighting the Russians. No matter who dies a bad person died.

I wish Hitler had kicked Stalin's ass then Patton coulda continued east and cleaned house.

Turfdawg67
09-28-2021, 04:10 PM
17 Slave Owning Confeds. They can Go to Hell and Die.

Easy... you'll wake Leeshouldveflanked. I kid, I kid. ***

Cowbell
09-28-2021, 07:19 PM
That's not fair to Vanderbilt. They have 2 natties in baseball.

Ain't that the truth

OLJWales
09-28-2021, 07:26 PM
I honestly don't know who to root against this weekend. Growing up in Columbus there were more sidewalk Bama fans than OM fans and I have a deep seeded hatred for all things Tide. Living in Lafayette county has giving me not necessarily a hatred for OM, but a strong dislike of their perceived superiority for no reason. This year it's incredibly bad. Neither one of these fanbases handle defeat or success well. Either way, I'll enjoy annoying the hell out of someone in my family.

That rocks. Im jealous. Lol

OLJWales
09-28-2021, 07:29 PM
Easy... you'll wake Leeshouldveflanked. I kid, I kid. ***

Lol

coachnorm
09-28-2021, 08:28 PM
I wish Hitler had kicked Stalin's ass then Patton coulda continued east and cleaned house.

Bad news on that scenario. There were more Soviet Troops on the ground than Americans. Also, Soviet Troops were battle hardened and ours were rookies in their first year of combat. Or Marines got battle hardened in the Pacific because they were actually in combat, our European troops were in England waiting for orders to attack on D Day. We could not nuke them because we would have nuked as many Americans as Soviets in the same area. If we had a third nuke and did Moscow, the Soviets right next to us would have been really motivated and not many American troops would have gone home alive?

OLJWales
09-28-2021, 09:03 PM
Ole Miss is:

?Alabama arrogance with a Vanderbilt Trophy Case?

I jest jerked.

OLJWales
09-28-2021, 09:37 PM
Bad news on that scenario. There were more Soviet Troops on the ground than Americans. Also, Soviet Troops were battle hardened and ours were rookies in their first year of combat. Or Marines got battle hardened in the Pacific because they were actually in combat, our European troops were in England waiting for orders to attack on D Day. We could not nuke them because we would have nuked as many Americans as Soviets in the same area. If we had a third nuke and did Moscow, the Soviets right next to us would have been really motivated and not many American troops would have gone home alive?

Have you lost your 17ing mind? Do you have the first 17ing clue as to how much war toys the Brits sent to Stalin via that frozen body of water while getting ass 17'd' by Nazi U-Boats? Who the 17 do you think was getting that shit to England while getting our own asses kicked by those 17ing U-Boats. Thank God the Brits got that Enigma Code and mastered Sonar tech.

What the Russian people did to thwart Nazis is one of the most miraculous events in world history. The starvation, death and destruction they went thru and overcoming then revenge was Old Testament stuff.

17 Eisenhower. Patton wuz rite. We woulda wiped our asses with Bolschevick blood.

coachnorm
09-28-2021, 10:03 PM
The Soviet Union of 1945 was far different than the Soviet Union of 1940. Their war machine was up and running. Most of what you stated is correct enigma code, u boats, and assistance that helped build the Soviet war machine. But the end game is 1945 and the Soviet Union retooled itself and did about 90% of the damage to the Nazis. The allies only got on the mainland for about a year in the fight, the Soviets troops were battle hardened and ours were not at that level because of lack of combat experience. Our troops in Europe were not of the quality as those in the Pacific just that simple. This is real history not John Wayne history and I have not lost my mind.

Todd4State
09-28-2021, 10:10 PM
Have you lost your 17ing mind? Do you have the first 17ing clue as to how much war toys the Brits sent to Stalin via that frozen body of water while getting ass 17'd' by Nazi U-Boats? Who the 17 do you think was getting that shit to England while getting our own asses kicked by those 17ing U-Boats. Thank God the Brits got that Enigma Code and mastered Sonar tech.

What the Russian people did to thwart Nazis is one of the most miraculous events in world history. The starvation, death and destruction they went thru and overcoming then revenge was Old Testament stuff.

17 Eisenhower. Patton wuz rite. We woulda wiped our asses with Bolschevick blood.

Russia historically has used their harsh winters to their advantage throughout history. They knew what they were doing in World War II.

dstatechamps
09-29-2021, 07:38 AM
I honestly don't know who to root against this weekend. Growing up in Columbus there were more sidewalk Bama fans than OM fans and I have a deep seeded hatred for all things Tide. Living in Lafayette county has giving me not necessarily a hatred for OM, but a strong dislike of their perceived superiority for no reason. This year it's incredibly bad. Neither one of these fanbases handle defeat or success well. Either way, I'll enjoy annoying the hell out of someone in my family.

Best answer I've ever heard to this particular dilemma was from a former boss of mine. Crusty old guy and a huge State fan. Somebody asked him who he wanted to win between Ole Miss and Bama. He answered, "I hope they both lose and the got-damn stadium burns down."

DeltaSwamp
09-29-2021, 07:57 AM
Yes! Using this moving forward

OLJWales
09-29-2021, 09:32 AM
The Soviet Union of 1945 was far different than the Soviet Union of 1940. Their war machine was up and running. Most of what you stated is correct enigma code, u boats, and assistance that helped build the Soviet war machine. But the end game is 1945 and the Soviet Union retooled itself and did about 90% of the damage to the Nazis. The allies only got on the mainland for about a year in the fight, the Soviets troops were battle hardened and ours were not at that level because of lack of combat experience. Our troops in Europe were not of the quality as those in the Pacific just that simple. This is real history not John Wayne history and I have not lost my mind.

"NUTS!!!" 90 Percent? That's a way bit high. You think you know more than Patton knew? Do you realize what suffering took place from the Satanic Iron Curtain? 17 Eisenhower's appeasement of evil. Patton woulda rolled dem parasitic commie bitches.

Extendedcab
09-29-2021, 09:55 AM
"NUTS!!!"

That is funny! Famous response to the Germans during the battle of the bulge (at Bastogne)! One word says it all!

OLJWales
09-29-2021, 09:55 AM
Best answer I've ever heard to this particular dilemma was from a former boss of mine. Crusty old guy and a huge State fan. Somebody asked him who he wanted to win between Ole Miss and Bama. He answered, "I hope they both lose and the got-damn stadium burns down."

Saving that last sentence for porn. LMAO

coachnorm
09-29-2021, 07:55 PM
"NUTS!!!" 90 Percent? That's a way bit high. You think you know more than Patton knew? Do you realize what suffering took place from the Satanic Iron Curtain? 17 Eisenhower's appeasement of evil. Patton woulda rolled dem parasitic commie bitches.

https://www.historynet.com/men-against-fire-how-many-soldiers-actually-fired-their-weapons-at-the-enemy-during-the-vietnam-war.htm

If you research the siege of Berlin you will notice that the US Military accepts 80,000 Red Army troops died to achieve that objective. Remember, these are very experienced and battle hardened troops. They knew how to kill an enemy. The Red Army was killing Nazis for 4 years before US and British troops set foot on the Continent. If you look at the attached article you will read a conclusion of the United States Military that only 3 in 10 US troops fired their weapons during combat during WW2.

If US troops were put in the same tactical situation as the Red Army, the 80,000 number would probably explode well over 100,000 because most US troops had a problem killing the enemy like Red Army troops, read the article accepted by the US Military.

Generals Eisenhower and Omar Bradly also had to baby sit petulant subordinate generals Montgomery and Patton. Both Generals were in it for their personal glory and gain. Those two petulant generals could care less about how many US lives it would take to upgrade their personal status.

Generals Eisenhower and Bradly keenly understood their troops and decided that it was more acceptable that petulant Montgomery and Patton be constrained to save tens of thousands if not over 100,000 US troops so they could go home alive.

OLJWales
09-29-2021, 08:16 PM
That is funny! Famous response to the Germans during the battle of the bulge (at Bastogne)! One word says it all!

Onions chop when I watch those survivors from The Bulge tell it. Our general wrote "NUTS" was delivered to the German commander's surrender request. Thank God the clouds dissipated so we could drop supplies and save the day. Not tough enough to whip Ruskies? Kiss my ass.

OLJWales
09-29-2021, 08:39 PM
https://www.historynet.com/men-against-fire-how-many-soldiers-actually-fired-their-weapons-at-the-enemy-during-the-vietnam-war.htm

If you research the siege of Berlin you will notice that the US Military accepts 80,000 Red Army troops died to achieve that objective. Remember, these are very experienced and battle hardened troops. They knew how to kill an enemy. The Red Army was killing Nazis for 4 years before US and British troops set foot on the Continent. If you look at the attached article you will read a conclusion of the United States Military that only 3 in 10 US troops fired their weapons during combat during WW2.

If US troops were put in the same tactical situation as the Red Army, the 80,000 number would probably explode well over 100,000 because most US troops had a problem killing the enemy like Red Army troops, read the article accepted by the US Military.

Generals Eisenhower and Omar Bradly also had to baby sit petulant subordinate generals Montgomery and Patton. Both Generals were in it for their personal glory and gain. Those two petulant generals could care less about how many US lives it would take to upgrade their personal status.

Generals Eisenhower and Bradly keenly understood their troops and decided that it was more acceptable that petulant Montgomery and Patton be constrained to save tens of thousands if not over 100,000 US troops so they could go home alive.

Eisenhower DEMANDED we let Satan take Berlin. Satan sure as 17 wasn't killing too many Nazis when Barbaroso initiated. Satan had all his great commanders murdered before the war cuz Commies hate smart people. They were getting ass 17'd till winter set in. You are an unpatriotic dumbass dissing Patton.

coachnorm
09-30-2021, 04:16 PM
Eisenhower DEMANDED we let Satan take Berlin. Satan sure as 17 wasn't killing too many Nazis when Barbaroso initiated. Satan had all his great commanders murdered before the war cuz Commies hate smart people. They were getting ass 17'd till winter set in. You are an unpatriotic dumbass dissing Patton.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/SiteOneHolyLoch/

My father was a Chief Petty Officer in the US Navy which means that I was raised in a disciplined environment. I did six years active duty in the US Navy. I actually made E6 at six years but got out. I had a Non Compartmented Top Secret Clearance while stationed at Holy Loch UK. I spent 18 years at Naval Station North Island in San Diego and Marine Corps Air Station San Diego as a Navy Civilian, not contractor. My Top Secret Clearance was downgraded to Secret because I was not working in as sensitive nature as on active duty. I went to JUCO and have a substantial education thru the USN as a fill in supervisor in addition to my technical skills.

If I was tasked to do a job on a nuclear reactor on an FBM Submarine in Holy Loch or working a task on an F/A-18 jet fighter in San Diego, I needed the discipline and knowledge for achievement. Likewise, if I was tasked to instruct subordinates, I needed discipline and knowledge also. I have lived a life of discipline not known to many Americans.

I also use that discipline with academics which include studies in history. My discipline to look up technical directives, done all my life, just carried over to my learning of history. I use a military approach to learning World War 2. I read what the US Military accepts as credible. I do not watch John Wayne movies for a knowledge base.

Based on a military disciplined approach you were correct that General Eisenhower insisting the Red Army siege Berlin. Based on US military doctrine after WW2 it was presented that US Troops were terrified and only 3 in 10 fired their weapons at the enemy. Military War College curriculum, at service academies, OCSs, and war colleges, was added post WW2 to teach hatred, to troops, to get them more aggressive to kill another human being. This is in the past attachment presented to you.

Generals Eisenhower and Bradly agreed on the Red Army siege because they understood that if only 3 in 10 would pull the trigger, the US Army would sustain an unacceptable casualty total. The war was winding down and Eisenhower understood the complete tactical situation.

That tactical situation even carried thru to the 1970s. I was assigned to Site One, Submarine Squadron 14, out of Holy Loch, Scotland from December 1970 thru April 1974. I have attached a link about that command that existed from 1961 to 1992. Needless to say, I learned the Commands mission.

During that time period my Command was the only submarine command with the upgraded weapons from Polaris to Poseidon missiles. Rota Spain got upgraded in 1975. Site One assets could strike at 2500 miles with multiple warheads. The rest of the navy subs could only strike 1000 miles with single warhead. Site One assets were directed to the Artic, off the Soviet Coast, to sit in an underwater valley and wait for launch orders.

It was known by our Command that NATO did not have enough assets to withstand a Soviet land attack and incursion at the time, even with Theatre Based Missiles. Site One assets were so powerful that it leveled the playing field. We at Site One, Submarine Squadron 14 understood the seriousness of our efforts. Both the Soviets and NATO had intercept capabilities for ICBMs, intercontinental ballistic missiles at distance but not FBMs fleet ballistic missiles launched at short distance.

Commercecomet24
09-30-2021, 05:08 PM
I didn't think that one had to be added. Bryce Young might throw for 500 yds on Saturday.

I agree

schddog72
09-30-2021, 06:32 PM
Ole Miss has a Women's Golf trophy. That has to count for something along with Oxford Gazette National Championship from the 60s.

I believe Southern Living declared them national champs in 1962.

FISHDAWG
10-01-2021, 07:23 AM
17 Slave Owning Confeds. They can Go to Hell and Die.

Lol ... I get it but the enemy of my enemy thing has me pulling for OM this week... even tho we don't have a glimmer of hope for the West

ShotgunDawg
10-01-2021, 07:44 AM
I like Fowler as well but man he can find a lot to complain about for a team with so many 5 stars

It can feel at times a lot like a billionaire complaining about gas prices