Sunday Morning QB- We Won The Stats Edition

[Coach34]

1. Got to spend the morning watching my 10 year play. They put their 12 game winning streak on the line and rolled to a 33-6 victory. In talks with my son Friday evening I realized that he is in his 4th season playing football and he has never lost. Not once. It's to the point it doesnt even occur to him they could lose. Will be interesting to see his reaction when that day comes. The irony of it all is I have to sit there and watch them run the Wing-T- the only football offense more boring than the Mike Leach Air Raid

2. All week I got to read about how awful Orgeron is as a coach, LSU has new coordinators so advantage to us, their offense sux so our D should shut them down, we had the QB advantage because their QB has less starts than ours, their best defensive player was out- plus another starter, and that LSU was a dumpsterfire. And we were at home. Complete and total advantage to us for the game. Even most of the betting money was on us

3. I'm sorry- but this game was never in doubt after the Heath fumble. 4 didnt have the ball high and tight and the DB put his helmet right on it. That was ballgame. From that point on I never felt like we were going to win the game. Nothing I was seeing made me feel like we would get ahead in the game. We were down 18 in the 4th Q- 3 scores. We werent really in the game. Our offense is why we now have been down to La Tech, Memphis, and LSU by double digits in the 4th Q.

4. "We had alot of total offense". Of course we did. They played a Prevent D play after play after play after play after play after play after play after play after play. They didnt even hardly run any stunts or twists with the DL. All they did for the most part was slide the DE's to wide 9's or slide them inside to a 404 front. 85% of the game we faced the absolute most basic defense a team can run. What did we do with it? First 8 drives we scored 3 points. Lots of plays run by our Wishbone 2020 offense but no return.

We will always get stats against a Prevent D. They are giving us yards. They are letting the Wishbone 2020 do its thing. They are betting Wishbone 2020 will make a mistake, commit penalties, turn the ball over on a 10-12 play drive before it can score. And they would be correct most of the time. Few explosive plays. 10th in the SEC in 10+ and 20+ plays. 13th in the SEC in 30+ plays. Wishbone 2020

5. We did run the ball a little more. That's progress I guess. It was somewhat effective and help build the stats for us. But there is still no imagination in the run game. It's Jr High level at best except most Jr High teams have a more varied run package than we do.

6. Our 2nd drive of the game was a perfect snapshot of why Leach is not ever going to work:

Marks 5 yard run
Marks 6 yards run- 1st down
Pass incomplete
Rogers pass to Marks for 2 yards
Rogers checkdown pass to Johnson for 5 yards
Punt

7. LSU and others are mixing things up some when we get to the Red Zone. Which is not surprising. It would help if we had some type of plan for that.

8. Not sure why LSU went away from the 2 high some in the 4th Q. Boredom most likely. Big lead so try some other coverage to see how your D does. Whatever it was it helped us. Rogers- who threw the pick after being baited by the sagging CB on the corner route against the 2 high- got a 1 high look and hit Polk for the TD. You could see the solo safety trying to get there from the middle of the field and just couldnt. Good read and throw by Rogers.

9. Defense gave up some big plays like aggressive defenses do. We are aggressive and are programmed to stop the run. LSU came out of halftime with their go to play for a big one and they hit it. We are going to bite on play action and they got the LB's to come up- giving him a great window for the TD pass. LSU has some pretty good WR's also so they were going to make some plays. I'm not as worried about that one or the one where our guys tried to kill each other on the rub route as I am where they had the guy running free in the Secondary. That cant happen no matter how good their playcall was. We play a helluva lot of man coverage and teams are going to hit some big plays against it. SEC teams have playmakers at WR.

10. We go on the road to play a night game against a better defense than the one we just played. A&M's licking their wounds from a very physical UPig team. We are getting them having to play their back-up QB so that even it up a little. Very likely is another low-scoring game heading into the 4th Q. I expect more offensive penalties and some sacks due to the crowd noise.

11. Almost forgot- got to give a shout to our RB's- Marks and Johnson. You have got to be a tough SOB to play RB in this Wishbone 2020 offense. Getting blown up on some of these dump downs, having people diving at your legs the very second you turn around after receiving the dump down, etc. I really appreciate the job these 2 guys are doing in this Wishbone 2020 offense. A big bark to you two.

HailState

[parabrave]

Remember #4 is all that counts.** Some of our guys think that we won because we had more yards not more points. Perfect example is that last drive. We needed 2 scores and took almost 4 mins to go downfield on a team that was playing the loosest prevent D you can and we scored because of a busted coverage. No sense of urgency at all. But we did get alot of yards.

[Dawgfan77]

Remember #4 is all that counts.** Some of our guys think that we won because we had more yards not more points. Perfect example is that last drive. We needed 2 scores and took almost 4 mins to go downfield on a team that was playing the loosest prevent D you can and we scored because of a busted coverage. No sense of urgency at all. But we did get alot of yards.

In that drive we snapped the ball with 5 seconds left on the play with a running clock. Let not even talk about the challenge. Leach's clock management would make JWS embarrassed.

[parabrave]

In that drive we snapped the ball with 5 seconds left on the play with a running clock. Let not even talk about the challenge. Leach's clock management would make JWS embarrassed.

Whats even worse is the LSU fans saying that Miles had better clock management than Leach

[Bothrops]

This pitiful saga continues next week at 6pm central.

[gtowndawg]

We're going to win 4 games this year but somehow our fans will convince themselves we're a good team. It blows my mind. We are M State.

edited: at least we're tearing up the recruiting trail (checks notes), uhh, nevermind.

[KOdawg1]

Correct on all counts.

A lot of the optimism after yesterday is just based on hope. LSU isn't a good team.

Enjoy Arnett while we have him. The dude deserves so much better than what he's getting.

[Dawgfan77]

Correct on all counts.

A lot of the optimism after yesterday is just based on hope. LSU isn't a good team.

Enjoy Arnett while we have him. The dude deserves so much better than what he's getting.

Thought the same thing. No doubt he will be making a move in DEC.

[SteelCurtain74]

We're going to win 4 games this year but somehow our fans will convince themselves we're a good team. It blows my mind. We are M State.

edited: at least we're tearing up the recruiting trail (checks notes), uhh, nevermind.

And we'll convince ourselves we are one year away from the offense clicking. We're always suspiciously one year away from any type of success.

[lastmajordog]

Excellent post.

[William Tecumsah Sherman]

Coach 34 is absolutely correct. The yards and QB stats are a mirage. Any offense that allows the defense to play one way all game is not going to work. I have a hope that Leach makes adjustments next year with the off-season. I doubt it though.

[MoreCowbell]

1. Got to spend the morning watching my 10 year play. They put their 12 game winning streak on the line and rolled to a 33-6 victory. In talks with my son Friday evening I realized that he is in his 4th season playing football and he has never lost. Not once. It's to the point it doesnt even occur to him they could lose. Will be interesting to see his reaction when that day comes. The irony of it all is I have to sit there and watch them run the Wing-T- the only football offense more boring than the Mike Leach Air Raid

2. All week I got to read about how awful Orgeron is as a coach, LSU has new coordinators so advantage to us, their offense sux so our D should shut them down, we had the QB advantage because their QB has less starts than ours, their best defensive player was out- plus another starter, and that LSU was a dumpsterfire. And we were at home. Complete and total advantage to us for the game. Even most of the betting money was on us

3. I'm sorry- but this game was never in doubt after the Heath fumble. 4 didnt have the ball high and tight and the DB put his helmet right on it. That was ballgame. From that point on I never felt like we were going to win the game. Nothing I was seeing made me feel like we would get ahead in the game. We were down 18 in the 4th Q- 3 scores. We werent really in the game. Our offense is why we now have been down to La Tech, Memphis, and LSU by double digits in the 4th Q.

4. "We had alot of total offense". Of course we did. They played a Prevent D play after play after play after play after play after play after play after play after play. They didnt even hardly run any stunts or twists with the DL. All they did for the most part was slide the DE's to wide 9's or slide them inside to a 404 front. 85% of the game we faced the absolute most basic defense a team can run. What did we do with it? First 8 drives we scored 3 points. Lots of plays run by our Wishbone 2020 offense but no return.

We will always get stats against a Prevent D. They are giving us yards. They are letting the Wishbone 2020 do its thing. They are betting Wishbone 2020 will make a mistake, commit penalties, turn the ball over on a 10-12 play drive before it can score. And they would be correct most of the time. Few explosive plays. 10th in the SEC in 10+ and 20+ plays. 13th in the SEC in 30+ plays. Wishbone 2020

5. We did run the ball a little more. That's progress I guess. It was somewhat effective and help build the stats for us. But there is still no imagination in the run game. It's Jr High level at best except most Jr High teams have a more varied run package than we do.

6. Our 2nd drive of the game was a perfect snapshot of why Leach is not ever going to work:

Marks 5 yard run
Marks 6 yards run- 1st down
Pass incomplete
Rogers pass to Marks for 2 yards
Rogers checkdown pass to Johnson for 5 yards
Punt

7. LSU and others are mixing things up some when we get to the Red Zone. Which is not surprising. It would help if we had some type of plan for that.

8. Not sure why LSU went away from the 2 high some in the 4th Q. Boredom most likely. Big lead so try some other coverage to see how your D does. Whatever it was it helped us. Rogers- who threw the pick after being baited by the sagging CB on the corner route against the 2 high- got a 1 high look and hit Polk for the TD. You could see the solo safety trying to get there from the middle of the field and just couldnt. Good read and throw by Rogers.

9. Defense gave up some big plays like aggressive defenses do. We are aggressive and are programmed to stop the run. LSU came out of halftime with their go to play for a big one and they hit it. We are going to bite on play action and they got the LB's to come up- giving him a great window for the TD pass. LSU has some pretty good WR's also so they were going to make some plays. I'm not as worried about that one or the one where our guys tried to kill each other on the rub route as I am where they had the guy running free in the Secondary. That cant happen no matter how good their playcall was. We play a helluva lot of man coverage and teams are going to hit some big plays against it. SEC teams have playmakers at WR.

10. We go on the road to play a night game against a better defense than the one we just played. A&M's licking their wounds from a very physical UPig team. We are getting them having to play their back-up QB so that even it up a little. Very likely is another low-scoring game heading into the 4th Q. I expect more offensive penalties and some sacks due to the crowd noise.

11. Almost forgot- got to give a shout to our RB's- Marks and Johnson. You have got to be a tough SOB to play RB in this Wishbone 2020 offense. Getting blown up on some of these dump downs, having people diving at your legs the very second you turn around after receiving the dump down, etc. I really appreciate the job these 2 guys are doing in this Wishbone 2020 offense. A big bark to you two.

HailState

Spot on.

[HancockCountyDog]

I agree - not sure how you can objectively disagree with anything he said.

[R2Dawg]

We're going to win 4 games this year but somehow our fans will convince themselves we're a good team. It blows my mind. We are M State.

edited: at least we're tearing up the recruiting trail (checks notes), uhh, nevermind.

That is the disturbing part and that is why we will never get better as a program. We deserve and get what we expect which is a losing product on the field. You can never perform above your expectations.

[R2Dawg]

1. Got to spend the morning watching my 10 year play. They put their 12 game winning streak on the line and rolled to a 33-6 victory. In talks with my son Friday evening I realized that he is in his 4th season playing football and he has never lost. Not once. It's to the point it doesnt even occur to him they could lose. Will be interesting to see his reaction when that day comes. The irony of it all is I have to sit there and watch them run the Wing-T- the only football offense more boring than the Mike Leach Air Raid

2. All week I got to read about how awful Orgeron is as a coach, LSU has new coordinators so advantage to us, their offense sux so our D should shut them down, we had the QB advantage because their QB has less starts than ours, their best defensive player was out- plus another starter, and that LSU was a dumpsterfire. And we were at home. Complete and total advantage to us for the game. Even most of the betting money was on us

3. I'm sorry- but this game was never in doubt after the Heath fumble. 4 didnt have the ball high and tight and the DB put his helmet right on it. That was ballgame. From that point on I never felt like we were going to win the game. Nothing I was seeing made me feel like we would get ahead in the game. We were down 18 in the 4th Q- 3 scores. We werent really in the game. Our offense is why we now have been down to La Tech, Memphis, and LSU by double digits in the 4th Q.

4. "We had alot of total offense". Of course we did. They played a Prevent D play after play after play after play after play after play after play after play after play. They didnt even hardly run any stunts or twists with the DL. All they did for the most part was slide the DE's to wide 9's or slide them inside to a 404 front. 85% of the game we faced the absolute most basic defense a team can run. What did we do with it? First 8 drives we scored 3 points. Lots of plays run by our Wishbone 2020 offense but no return.

We will always get stats against a Prevent D. They are giving us yards. They are letting the Wishbone 2020 do its thing. They are betting Wishbone 2020 will make a mistake, commit penalties, turn the ball over on a 10-12 play drive before it can score. And they would be correct most of the time. Few explosive plays. 10th in the SEC in 10+ and 20+ plays. 13th in the SEC in 30+ plays. Wishbone 2020

5. We did run the ball a little more. That's progress I guess. It was somewhat effective and help build the stats for us. But there is still no imagination in the run game. It's Jr High level at best except most Jr High teams have a more varied run package than we do.

6. Our 2nd drive of the game was a perfect snapshot of why Leach is not ever going to work:

Marks 5 yard run
Marks 6 yards run- 1st down
Pass incomplete
Rogers pass to Marks for 2 yards
Rogers checkdown pass to Johnson for 5 yards
Punt

7. LSU and others are mixing things up some when we get to the Red Zone. Which is not surprising. It would help if we had some type of plan for that.

8. Not sure why LSU went away from the 2 high some in the 4th Q. Boredom most likely. Big lead so try some other coverage to see how your D does. Whatever it was it helped us. Rogers- who threw the pick after being baited by the sagging CB on the corner route against the 2 high- got a 1 high look and hit Polk for the TD. You could see the solo safety trying to get there from the middle of the field and just couldnt. Good read and throw by Rogers.

9. Defense gave up some big plays like aggressive defenses do. We are aggressive and are programmed to stop the run. LSU came out of halftime with their go to play for a big one and they hit it. We are going to bite on play action and they got the LB's to come up- giving him a great window for the TD pass. LSU has some pretty good WR's also so they were going to make some plays. I'm not as worried about that one or the one where our guys tried to kill each other on the rub route as I am where they had the guy running free in the Secondary. That cant happen no matter how good their playcall was. We play a helluva lot of man coverage and teams are going to hit some big plays against it. SEC teams have playmakers at WR.

10. We go on the road to play a night game against a better defense than the one we just played. A&M's licking their wounds from a very physical UPig team. We are getting them having to play their back-up QB so that even it up a little. Very likely is another low-scoring game heading into the 4th Q. I expect more offensive penalties and some sacks due to the crowd noise.

11. Almost forgot- got to give a shout to our RB's- Marks and Johnson. You have got to be a tough SOB to play RB in this Wishbone 2020 offense. Getting blown up on some of these dump downs, having people diving at your legs the very second you turn around after receiving the dump down, etc. I really appreciate the job these 2 guys are doing in this Wishbone 2020 offense. A big bark to you two.

HailState

Nailed it again 34.

Couple extras.

On the 3rd quarter TD pass. Preston is just not smart in coverage. He is good in run support and only needs to play in run only situations somehow or play him in a blitz package when he is the blitzer. He is generally a good tackler. He can't be in covering any WR especially deep balls. He has been burned over and over. Cost us a game potentially here.

Second you on the RB. Kudos to those guys. They are tough. Dead on they get blown up 10 times a game with the checkdowns. It is like sending a WR over the middle with a high floater and two players converging on them.

I'm no football expert but most of this is just common sense. The simple fact that in every game but one we are down 2+TDs to bad teams and get most of our points against a prevent D says a lot. Folks take the blinders off.

[R2Dawg]

Coach 34 is absolutely correct. The yards and QB stats are a mirage. Any offense that allows the defense to play one way all game is not going to work. I have a hope that Leach makes adjustments next year with the off-season. I doubt it though.

A great coach makes adjustments at halftime. A good coach makes adjustments before the next game.

Have we done either? Maybe we ran the ball a little more which is positive but I'm not sure what else.

[HoopsDawg]

serious question. what would you do if your son's high school team ran the Wing T.

[Coach34]

serious question. what would you do if your son's high school team ran the Wing T.

Do everything in my power to get my Ex to switch schools for my younger son because he has a chance to play after HS. It's ok right now because the group he plays for is coached well. He'll be in middle school ball with his older brother next year and they run the Spread.

[BayouDawg]

Well after we beat NC state all anyone talked about was how they beat us in total yards. Cant have it both ways.

[PendingTransaction]

34, you make good points. But I have scoured the tweeters, book faces and a few board threads. I have found hope:
1. Leach won everywhere he has been using the Raid
2. He's technically in his first season
3. He's got a secret stash of HIS PLAYERS that will be here soon
4. The players are young but getting older everyday
5. Will can't see the deep post and go routes but he's order some good contact lenses
6. Will is just a placeholder for Sawyer. Sawyer has ran the RAID since kindergarten
7. The OL sucks but they are making improvements
8. The reason we don't throw downfield more is because the WRs are lazy route runners but Leach Beach should have that fixed by Wednesday
9. SloMo Joe destroyed the very being of our football program, I mean he took it totally off course. But the Pirate is correcting the ship!!!

Use this information to edit your SM-QB, Hope Springs Eternal.

[R2Dawg]

Well after we beat NC state all anyone talked about was how they beat us in total yards. Cant have it both ways.

I never said one thing about NCstate having better stats. Don't care. The eye test really tells the story of a game more than stats. We outplayed NCstate all day and we are better than NCstate at least that day at home.

It was 24-3 till under minute to play. NCstate like MSU in 3 games got most of their yards when we relaxed the D in the 4th quarter with a big lead. They had something over 200 yards in start of 4th.

[BayouDawg]

I never said one thing about NCstate having better stats. Don't care. The eye test really tells the story of a game more than stats. We outplayed NCstate all day and we are better than NCstate at least that day at home.

It was 24-3 till under minute to play. NCstate like MSU in 3 games got most of their yards when we relaxed the D in the 4th quarter with a big lead. They had something over 200 yards in start of 4th.

I dont recall calling you out by name. Coach 34 explicitly excused away that win saying nc state out gained us.

I see a team that beats itself currently.

[BeardoMSU]

34, you make good points. But I have scoured the tweeters, book faces and a few board threads. I have found hope:
1. Leach won everywhere he has been using the Raid
2. He's technically in his first season
3. He's got a secret stash of HIS PLAYERS that will be here soon
4. The players are young but getting older everyday
5. Will can't see the deep post and go routes but he's order some good contact lenses
6. Will is just a placeholder for Sawyer. Sawyer has ran the RAID since kindergarten
7. The OL sucks but they are making improvements
8. The reason we don't throw downfield more is because the WRs are lazy route runners but Leach Beach should have that fixed by Wednesday
9. SloMo Joe destroyed the very being of our football program, I mean he took it totally off course. But the Pirate is correcting the ship!!!

Use this information to edit your SM-QB, Hope Springs Eternal.

This makes me both laugh and feel like shit....thanks, and **** you!**

[R2Dawg]

I dont recall calling you out by name. Coach 34 explicitly excused away that win saying nc state out gained us.

I see a team that beats itself currently.

I understand but you said "all anyone talked about" which was not true. Maybe 34 said something but I don't recall any mention by the masses about stats in that game. Only one stat mattered that day or any day for that matter.

[BayouDawg]

I understand but you said "all anyone talked about" which was not true. Maybe 34 said something but I don't recall any mention by the masses about stats in that game. Only one stat mattered that day or any day for that matter.

That is correct. And unless we quit being a stupid team we wont win on the scoreboard any time soon. Thats the biggest flaw I see with this team. Scheme be damned you cant win games making as many head scratching mistakes as this team makes.

[Coach34]

I dont recall calling you out by name. Coach 34 explicitly excused away that win saying nc state out gained us.

I see a team that beats itself currently.

I didnt excuse the win at all. We outplayed them them that day and their plan was awful. What I said in regards to yards was that we had problems with our offense- they outgained us in yards and we only scored 17 points on offense. Two weeks later? We see that we really do have problems on offense scoring points

[BayouDawg]

I didnt excuse the win at all. We outplayed them them that day and their plan was awful. What I said in regards to yards was that we had problems with our offense- they outgained us in yards and we only scored 17 points on offense. Two weeks later? We see that we really do have problems on offense scoring points

Yes we do. We cant get out of our own way. The one game we didnt beat ourselves we got a win against a solid team.

[lawdawg]

6. Our 2nd drive of the game was a perfect snapshot of why Leach is not ever going to work:

Marks 5 yard run
Marks 6 yards run- 1st down
Pass incomplete
Rogers pass to Marks for 2 yards
Rogers checkdown pass to Johnson for 5 yards
Punt


That 3rd and 8 was unbelievably bad playcalling. LSU had already established that they were rushing 3 and dropping 8. So on 3rd and 8, we come out with TWO RBs in the backfield, who BOTH run swing routes as check downs. So, we only had 3 guys running routes that could gain a first down, and they had 8 guys covering those 3. Of course, Johnson got 5 on the check down but was met there by a gang of tacklers - no chance to get the first.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Correct on all counts.

A lot of the optimism after yesterday is just based on hope. LSU isn't a good team.

Enjoy Arnett while we have him. The dude deserves so much better than what he's getting.

Hes a good coach and has done a good
Job. But the defense makes the same mistakes they were making a year ago too. I still do not understand why our safeties play the way they do. They are way too over aggressive

Safeties eyes in the wrong place and busted coverages

[Commercecomet24]

Hes a good coach and has done a good
Job. But the defense makes the same mistakes they were making a year ago too. I still do not understand why our safeties play the way they do. They are way too over aggressive

Safeties eyes in the wrong place and busted coverages

Agreed Arnett is a good young coach but you're absolutely right that our safety play has got to improve. Agressive is one thing totally blowing assignments is another.

[Rawdawg]

7.89 yards per completion is all that needs to be taken away from this game. Until this number is over 10 the offense will be what we?ve seen through 4 games. We can nitpick blown coverages, a dumb special teams penalty etc but until that number changes it?s gonna be the same thing every week.

[BayouDawg]

7.89 yards per completion is all that needs to be taken away from this game. Until this number is over 10 the offense will be what we?ve seen through 4 games. We can nitpick blown coverages, a dumb special teams penalty etc but until that number changes it?s gonna be the same thing every week.

I agree with this. The two dropped passes on the seam routes would have helped this number as they would have been good for around 30 yards a piece.

[OLJWales]

Year 2 and Leach delivers another gut punch. Last year's crash after LSU win and now this shit. Seems like we otta be 4-0 but without our D, we would be 10X worse and getting our asses totally stomped. My frustration is getting tougher to handle. The dog's starting to slow and fo long ain't gonna be able to hunt if this shit continues. At least for me anyways. Maybe just need a nap.

[RezDog7]

Jr High Coach 34 has hated every coach at MSU because he's jealous as hell that he can't get a job as a high school coach. Douche bag.

[Coach34]

Jr High Coach 34 has hated every coach at MSU because he's jealous as hell that he can't get a job as a high school coach. Douche bag.

The monkey is back to fling shit. I’ve coached 17 years in HS. I can’t imagine coaching JR High.

[RezDog7]

The monkey is back to fling shit. I’ve coached 17 years in HS. I can’t imagine coaching JR High.

Coaching and head coach are two different things.

[Sienfield]

I never said one thing about NCstate having better stats. Don't care. The eye test really tells the story of a game more than stats. We outplayed NCstate all day and we are better than NCstate at least that day at home.

It was 24-3 till under minute to play. NCstate like MSU in 3 games got most of their yards when we relaxed the D in the 4th quarter with a big lead. They had something over 200 yards in start of 4th.


The score was 7-3 at halftime. Their 7 was from a turnover. It appears we won or tied the 1st, and 2nd, and won the 4th quarter but the offense and defense let us down in the 3rd.

[basedog]

Seems so far The Pirate hasn't made adjustments in the second half, see Tiger High and Corndogs. It comes down to Coaching losses, and yes turnovers, mistakes and penalties occur but that are things you work on everyday at practice.

[WinningIsRelentless]

Is the wishbone 2021 a product of the offense scheme or the qb not taking risk.

If we attempt more down field passes does it loosen the d on underneath routes and/or open up bigger running plays?

[confucius say]

Hes a good coach and has done a good
Job. But the defense makes the same mistakes they were making a year ago too. I still do not understand why our safeties play the way they do. They are way too over aggressive

Safeties eyes in the wrong place and busted coverages

Against a team that cannot run the ball on us or anybody else. Their OL is garbage. The only way they could have scored on us was the way they did, 3 long TD passes (2 in man coverage and 1 a bust). The other TD, the first one, two players miss a sack. If we drop 8 all day LSU may not even score Saturday. Good defenses shouldn't give up 28 to a one dimensional LSU at home.

[confucius say]

Year 2 and Leach delivers another gut punch. Last year's crash after LSU win and now this shit. Seems like we otta be 4-0 but without our D, we would be 10X worse and getting our asses totally stomped. My frustration is getting tougher to handle. The dog's starting to slow and fo long ain't gonna be able to hunt if this shit continues. At least for me anyways. Maybe just need a nap.

Our offense has not been good.
But our defense sucked against la tech and against LSU.

[confucius say]

The monkey is back to fling shit. I’ve coached 17 years in HS. I can’t imagine coaching JR High.

I know you know football.

But he has a point. You told me point blank you wanted Mullen gone numerous times. Dan is a top 10 coach in the country.

[Coach34]

I know you know football.

But he has a point. You told me point blank you wanted Mullen gone numerous times. Dan is a top 10 coach in the country.

I never wanted Mullen gone over his coaching. My problems with Mullen was the November job hunting every year. Interviewing during Egg Bowl week. I'm still glad Richt snaked him on the Miami job. The Mullen/Manny package deal that turned into Bye Dan, Love Manny

[confucius say]

Any top 10 coach in the country that coaches at state is going to be job hunting when he knows bigger jobs are open.

[Coach34]

After the Egg Bowl is fine. The fact that Mullen had jobs lined up before the 2015 and 2017 EB's still pisses me off. Do all that after Thanksgiving

[WinningIsRelentless]

I never wanted Mullen gone over his coaching. My problems with Mullen was the November job hunting every year. Interviewing during Egg Bowl week. I'm still glad Richt snaked him on the Miami job. The Mullen/Manny package deal that turned into Bye Dan, Love Manny

This brings up something that has become very obvious the past 3 years. We are better off overpaying a good head coach by 1 to 1.5 million a year than what his perceived value to other schools are.

[RezDog7]

The monkey is back to fling shit. I’ve coached 17 years in HS. I can’t imagine coaching JR High.

By the way dumbass, the prevent defense is supposed to prevent you from scoring, yet we scored 15 in the 4th quarter.

[BuckyIsAB****]

After the Egg Bowl is fine. The fact that Mullen had jobs lined up before the 2015 and 2017 EB's still pisses me off. Do all that after Thanksgiving

What a coincidence that we just so happened to start both games like absolute shit

[BuckyIsAB****]

Against a team that cannot run the ball on us or anybody else. Their OL is garbage. The only way they could have scored on us was the way they did, 3 long TD passes (2 in man coverage and 1 a bust). The other TD, the first one, two players miss a sack. If we drop 8 all day LSU may not even score Saturday. Good defenses shouldn't give up 28 to a one dimensional LSU at home.

The first long one was an RPO that our safety flew down on and made it easy for them

[Coach34]

What a coincidence that we just so happened to start both games like absolute shit

Amen Bro

[Commercecomet24]

The first long one was an RPO that our safety flew down on and made it easy for them

Yeah safety had deep middle on that and Forbes played outside leverage because he thought he had help and safety vacated the middle . Way to easy a score on that one

[Commercecomet24]

What a coincidence that we just so happened to start both games like absolute shit

Yep exactly

[BuckyIsAB****]

Yeah safety had deep middle on that and Forbes played outside leverage because he thought he had help and safety vacated the middle . Way to easy a score on that one

It was Emerson but thats close. Our safety had flown down to make a tackle on zone earlier LSU saw it and tagged a glance off the same split zone action and our safety flew up and that was it

[Commercecomet24]

It was Emerson but thats close. Our safety had flown down to make a tackle on zone earlier LSU saw it and tagged a glance off the same split zone action and our safety flew up and that was it

Yeah it was Emerson. Old mind lol

[BuckyIsAB****]

Yeah it was Emerson. Old mind lol

Actually going back man it was Forbes and it was off of counter action. Not split zone but the safety bites up and its all over

[confucius say]

The first long one was an RPO that our safety flew down on and made it easy for them

It was. And credit their OL. It is one of the only times this year I've seen an rpo where all OL stayed within the 3 yards.

[Commercecomet24]

Actually going back man it was Forbes and it was off of counter action. Not split zone but the safety bites up and its all over

Well that makes me feel better cause I was sure it was 13. Still got some memory left lol