I'm surprised by how negative the board is right now

[Quaoarsking]

Yes, it sucks really, really bad that we lost the game, especially after playing well enough to win except on a couple of breakdown plays, but I'm not seeing all the negativity here as warranted. It seems like today was a step in the right direction.

Offensively we played well enough to win, racking up 486 yards and 29 first downs on a much more talented defense than we've seen all season. That's the most yards we've had during the Leach Era, other than Costello's 623 yard stomping of LSU in game 1.
More importantly, we threw it down the field more than we've been doing. Austin Williams is figuring out how to get open in the drop 8 and make plays, and Makai Polk is establishing himself as a reliable go-to guy. We haven't clicked yet, but we may go way beyond 486 once we do - we certainly could have today with better execution.
We ran the ball more today, by both attempts and yardage. This offense will be even better when we're running for 100 yards each game.
Both the OL and DL played better.
The defense ... was mostly solid, but had not 1, not 2, but 3 absolute disasters that all led to TDs. Clean that up, and the game resembles our 2017 game with them.


Anyway, I'm in a bad mood that we should have won and blew it, but given the strength of opponent, and how last year + the first 3 games of this year went, I don't think a meltdown is warranted, at least not from a perspective of "I told you the Air Raid can't win SEC games!!!" since the offense was more than good enough to get the win and we're moving in the direction that the same people have clamored to move.

I think a lot of people just never liked Leach and are eager to complain about him any time we lose, regardless of how the game actually went.

[CaptainObvious]

You play to win the game. If we had had 120 yards passing and 60 yards rushing and win the game. People would feel better. Yea, there would have been the usual complaining about offensive production stat wise. But like Auburn fans right now, most of them are delirious even though they trailed to G5 Georgia State for 59 minutes and 15 seconds today.

[defiantdog]

You play to win the game. If we had had 120 yards passing and 60 yards rushing and win the game. People would feel better. Yea, there would have been the usual complaining about offensive production stat wise. But like Auburn fans right now, most of them are delirious even though they trailed to G5 Georgia State for 59 minutes and 15 seconds today.

Yet, their coach made a change that helped the team. Our coach won't do that.

[KOdawg1]

We lost a game that we should've won for the second week in a row. I'm not big into moral victories. 10 years from now, no one will remember we did some good things in this game. We'll remember that we lost.

[Dak Holliday]

I personally struggle with what I feel is a loss of identity. MSU was a hard nosed football program. I know everyone wants to run the ball, but it?s more than that. We cling to RTGDB because it takes power, strength, and toughness to impose those type yards. I don?t think anyone begrudges the passing yards, but is it worth the entire cost of who we are to chase numbers that while ?record breaking? for us, have been almost devoid of wins? When we lost or won in the past, the game felt like a battle from the beginning to the end, not like- gee, I hope they get super conservative running out the clock so that we can make it look respectable on the score board. I?m sorry. I know I?m just talking out of anger, but this just sucks.

[Dawgfan77]

Yes, it sucks really, really bad that we lost the game, especially after playing well enough to win except on a couple of breakdown plays, but I'm not seeing all the negativity here as warranted. It seems like today was a step in the right direction.

Offensively we played well enough to win, racking up 486 yards and 29 first downs on a much more talented defense than we've seen all season. That's the most yards we've had during the Leach Era, other than Costello's 623 yard stomping of LSU in game 1.
More importantly, we threw it down the field more than we've been doing. Austin Williams is figuring out how to get open in the drop 8 and make plays, and Makai Polk is establishing himself as a reliable go-to guy. We haven't clicked yet, but we may go way beyond 486 once we do - we certainly could have today with better execution.
We ran the ball more today, by both attempts and yardage. This offense will be even better when we're running for 100 yards each game.
Both the OL and DL played better.
The defense ... was mostly solid, but had not 1, not 2, but 3 absolute disasters that all led to TDs. Clean that up, and the game resembles our 2017 game with them.


Anyway, I'm in a bad mood that we should have won and blew it, but given the strength of opponent, and how last year + the first 3 games of this year went, I don't think a meltdown is warranted, at least not from a perspective of "I told you the Air Raid can't win SEC games!!!" since the offense was more than good enough to get the win and we're moving in the direction that the same people have clamored to move.

I think a lot of people just never liked Leach and are eager to complain about him any time we lose, regardless of how the game actually went.
The dumbassery of your post is really something. Like Smithsonian dumbassery!
To legit to quit

[Quaoarsking]

The dumbassery of your post is really something. Like Smithsonian dumbassery!
To legit to quit

8/10 Great rebuttal. All points addressed and debunked.

[Coach34]

This game was never in doubt for LSU today

[Quaoarsking]

I personally struggle with what I feel is a loss of identity. MSU was a hard nosed football program. I know everyone wants to run the ball, but it?s more than that. We cling to RTGDB because it takes power, strength, and toughness to impose those type yards. I don?t think anyone begrudges the passing yards, but is it worth the entire cost of who we are to chase numbers that while ?record breaking? for us, have been almost devoid of wins? When we lost or won in the past, the game felt like a battle from the beginning to the end, not like- gee, I hope they get super conservative running out the clock so that we can make it look respectable on the score board. I?m sorry. I know I?m just talking out of anger, but this just sucks.

The "run the ball" identity never meant anything to be and never got us much of anything. I look forward to becoming nationally well-known as a high-octane passing team.

I do think that a lot of fans disagree with me and that's the main reason people just don't like Leach though.

[Dawgfan77]

8/10 Great rebuttal. All points addressed and debunked.

When your pulling stats and showing look how we are improving after a loss... I'm sorry man but I can't get on board. I know ball and I'm not naive to know that's some on here know more than me are all saying the same thing... we are not getting better and the air raid won't work here. If you can't see that I don't know what to tell you

[Quaoarsking]

When your pulling stats and showing look how we are improving after a loss... I'm sorry man but I can't get on board. I know ball and I'm not naive to know that's some on here know more than me are all saying the same thing... we are not getting better and the air raid won't work here. If you can't see that I don't know what to tell you

If you reject "pulling stats," how else are you measuring whether we're getting better or worse? Does it mean nothing to you that in SEC games 3-6 we averaged 220 YPG and then in SEC games 7-11 we improved to 400? Yeah, I wish we were better than 3-8 in SEC games, but stats can tell us if we're going in the right direction way better than feelings, eye test, etc.

And stats tell us that we ran more, like people have been wanting. And stats tell us that we didn't have as many 1-yard dumpoffs to the RBs, like people have been wanting.

[Dak Holliday]

But how many of these stats are coming in garbage time when the game is basically in hand? There?s a huge difference in we are coming back/ imposing our will vs we are being allowed to run our offense to kill the clock.

[Hambone]

Yet, their coach made a change that helped the team. Our coach won't do that.

How many rushing yards did we have today and how many run plays did we run today?

Have you not been watching this team the last year and a half?? Our coach totally made adjustments.

[SteelCurtain74]

MSU is averaging 22 pts a game over the last 11 SEC games. Arkansas in the same period is averaging 24 pts a game and just beat the #7 ranked team by 10 pts. They look like they are going in a much better direction than we are right now.

[Quaoarsking]

But how many of these stats are coming in garbage time when the game is basically in hand? There?s a huge difference in we are coming back/ imposing our will vs we are being allowed to run our offense to kill the clock.

There was no garbage time in any of the games we've played.

[Hambone]

But how many of these stats are coming in garbage time when the game is basically in hand? There?s a huge difference in we are coming back/ imposing our will vs we are being allowed to run our offense to kill the clock.

When you only lose by 3 how much garbage time is there?

[Dak Holliday]

After a while- ?we keep coming back? starts to look like ?they?re letting us complete passes because it?s over?. Is it purely coincidence that the only time we can score is at the end of the game?

[ShotgunDawg]

MSU is averaging 22 pts a game over the last 11 SEC games. Arkansas in the same period is averaging 24 pts a game and just beat the #7 ranked team by 10 pts. They look like they are going in a much better direction than we are right now.

On the surface yes, but I think they had a huge head start due to not doing a 180 scheme wise & running a more power running type style that is much easier to execute.

I think we pass them by early next season or later this season. I think our style has a much higher ceiling

[Dawgfan77]

If you reject "pulling stats," how else are you measuring whether we're getting better or worse? Does it mean nothing to you that in SEC games 3-6 we averaged 220 YPG and then in SEC games 7-11 we improved to 400? Yeah, I wish we were better than 3-8 in SEC games, but stats can tell us if we're going in the right direction way better than feelings, eye test, etc.

And stats tell us that we ran more, like people have been wanting. And stats tell us that we didn't have as many 1-yard dumpoffs to the RBs, like people have been wanting.

This bud how I measure improvement and direction of the program.... pay attention


W=wins Anything else is bull shit. If I pay a coach 5MM a year his ass better win in year 2.

[Dak Holliday]

When you only lose by 3 how much garbage time is there?
When you?re down by 2 scores with 6 minutes and they know it?ll take you more than 4 to score. LSU played the entire 4th quarter not to lose. I?m sorry, I really am, but I am with 34 on this one.

[SteelCurtain74]

On the surface yes, but I think they had a huge head start due to not doing a 180 scheme wise & running a more power running type style that is much easier to execute.

I think we pass them by early next season or later this season. I think our style has a much higher ceiling

Maybe but what I've seen spouted on this board as well on the broadcasts of our games was what year 2 looks like everywhere Leach has been and the drastic improvement that is made. I'm not seeing that on the field. Maybe he turns it around and we start lighting up the scoreboard but whether or not his schemes ceiling is higher or not, he's not going to have the time to reach that ceiling if things don't improve.

[Quaoarsking]

After a while- ?we keep coming back? starts to look like ?they?re letting us complete passes because it?s over?. Is it purely coincidence that the only time we can score is at the end of the game?

If LSU, Memphis, and in particular LaTech let us score because they were ahead, then their entire team and coaching staff is a bunch of dumbasses.

[BrunswickDawg]

MSU is averaging 22 pts a game over the last 11 SEC games. Arkansas in the same period is averaging 24 pts a game and just beat the #7 ranked team by 10 pts. They look like they are going in a much better direction than we are right now.

And we averaged 21.25 over JoeMo's 16 SEC games and 23.5 in ******* last 8

Our offense hasn't been ready for SEC prime time since 2014.

[Dak Holliday]

When coaches feel their lead is big enough, many go conservative. Eliminating almost all risk on offensive play calling and looking to minimize any momentum giving quick strikes on defense. You know this. Does it occasionally bite them- yes, but to act as if O was disappointed leaving with a 3 point win vs a 10 point win is silly. He was happy to let us chip away at what he felt was an insurmountable lead knowing that we would use up too much clock to complete it. He remembered last year and was happy considering their injuries to just leave DWS with the W. He got to wain to the media of how his leadership helped his team beat a really good team and say Go Tigahs.
I can appreciate your enthusiasm, Heaven knows I could use it, but this seems like sunshine pumping.

[ShotgunDawg]

Maybe but what I've seen spouted on this board as well on the broadcasts of our games was what year 2 looks like everywhere Leach has been and the drastic improvement that is made. I'm not seeing that on the field. Maybe he turns it around and we start lighting up the scoreboard but whether or not his schemes ceiling is higher or not, he's not going to have the time to reach that ceiling if things don't improve.

We're currently ahead of the improvement that Washington State made in year two from a yards per play & yards per game standpoint.

We are making massive improvements, but they're not showing up on the scoreboard because we're stupid & sabotage ourselves.

[Coach34]

We're currently ahead of the improvement that Washington State made in year two from a yards per play & yards per game standpoint.

We are making massive improvements, but they're not showing up on the scoreboard because we're stupid & sabotage ourselves.

This aint the Pac-10. This is the SEC

Teams are giving us 300 yards per game playing prevent for 90% of the game. Yards will be there week after week. We can complete the ball on the checkdown to the RB anytime we want. We completed 18 of them today as usual. We gonna get yards.

Where are the points before the 4th Q when we are behind by double digit points? Its not a coincidence we have trailed La Tech, Memphis, and LSU by Double digits in the 4th. Thats not ****ing progress

[Dawgfan77]

Well can't wait til we play Oregon state, Arizona, cal Berkeley!!!

[Dawgfan77]

This aint the Pac-10. This is the SEC

Teams are giving us 300 yards per game playing prevent for 90% of the game. Yards will be there week after week. We can complete the ball on the checkdown to the RB anytime we want. We completed 18 of them today as usual. We gonna get yards.

Where are the points before the 4th Q when we are behind be double digit points? Its not a coincidence we have trailed La Tech, Memphis, and LSU by Double digits in the 4th. Thats not ****ing progress

But but but stats coach see our stats. We gettin better cuz dem stats. See....

[R2Dawg]

This aint the Pac-10. This is the SEC

Teams are giving us 300 yards per game playing prevent for 90% of the game. Yards will be there week after week. We can complete the ball on the checkdown to the RB anytime we want. We completed 18 of them today as usual. We gonna get yards.

Where are the points before the 4th Q when we are behind by double digit points? Its not a coincidence we have trailed La Tech, Memphis, and LSU by Double digits in the 4th. Thats not ****ing progress

Don't bring facts in here to all rainbow/unicorn opinions of how good we are. Stats is what wins games, don't you know. Vegas bets on yards don't they or first downs.

The whole stats argument actually makes what we are doing more pathetic. Any other average coaching staff who has our stats wins the games comfortably. That is just a testiment to how bad we are.

[ShotgunDawg]

This aint the Pac-10. This is the SEC

Teams are giving us 300 yards per game playing prevent for 90% of the game. Yards will be there week after week. We can complete the ball on the checkdown to the RB anytime we want. We completed 18 of them today as usual. We gonna get yards.

Where are the points before the 4th Q when we are behind by double digit points? Its not a coincidence we have trailed La Tech, Memphis, and LSU by Double digits in the 4th. Thats not ****ing progress

I see growth man. Let's see where things are at the end of the year.

LSU's defense looked the same as Memphis' defense to me. This offense forces team into a 1 or 2 defensive schemes & all we have to do is execute.

[ShotgunDawg]

But but but stats coach see our stats. We gettin better cuz dem stats. See....

Yeah because teams with 500 yards of offense typically aren't any good*

Our offensive scheme was light year's better than LSU's

[R2Dawg]

I see growth man. Let's see where things are at the end of the year.

LSU's defense looked the same as Memphis' defense to me. This offense forces team into a 1 or 2 defensive schemes & all we have to do is execute.

Every O will work if they execute. That is every team that loses problem. We just like every other loser.

[R2Dawg]

Yeah because teams with 500 yards of offense typically aren't any good*

Our offensive scheme was light year's better than LSU's

Our D is way better than LSU too so hard to compare.

[Coach34]

LSU's defense looked the same as Memphis' defense to me. This offense forces team into a 1 or 2 defensive schemes & all we have to do is execute.

We will never execute against a prevent D. Our QB will continue to throw checkdowns and the RB's will keep getting blown up. Defenses will change a little at the 20 and force a turnover or FG time and again. Get ready for it week after week

[Dieharddawg]

Please tell us what the coaching staff at Natchez High School would do?

[Coach34]

Yeah because teams with 500 yards of offense typically aren't any good*

Our offensive scheme was light year's better than LSU's

Teams that play against a 3-8 prevent D should average 500 yards a game.

[Coach34]

Please tell us what the coaching staff at Natchez High School would do?

Average over 30 PPG like we did last year in only 48 minutes vs 60 minutes in college football

[ShotgunDawg]

We will never execute against a prevent D. Our QB will continue to throw checkdowns and the RB's will keep getting blown up. Defenses will change a little at the 20 and force a turnover or FG time and again. Get ready for it week after week

Are we not scoring against prevent Ds in the 4th quarters?

[TrapGame]

I see growth man. Let's see where things are at the end of the year.

LSU's defense looked the same as Memphis' defense to me. This offense forces team into a 1 or 2 defensive schemes & all we have to do is execute.

We don't have the QB right now to carve up a drop 8 zone. Maybe Will gets there but I doubt it. Leach needs to help out Will and have a run game to mix in. As long as they are rushing 3 we run the ball.

[ShotgunDawg]

Teams that play against a 3-8 prevent D should average 500 yards a game.

LSU went to a 4 man rush because we kept running the ball.

They spend the 4th quarter rushing 4

I'm just as frustrated as you, but I do think we're getting better fast, even if it's not being converted into big points yet

[ShotgunDawg]

We don't have the QB right now to carve up a drop 8 zone. Maybe Will gets there but I doubt it. Leach needs to help out Will and have a run game to mix in. As long as they are rushing 3 we run the ball.

I agree we don't have the right QB. Not going to debate that

[Coach34]

Are we not scoring against prevent Ds in the 4th quarters?

I'll talk more about this tomorrow but actually no. LSU since they were up 18 in the 4th started trying some other shit and got burned doing it

[Coach34]

LSU went to a 4 man rush because we kept running the ball.

They spend the 4th quarter rushing 4

I'm just as frustrated as you, but I do think we're getting better fast, even if it's not being converted into big points yet

LSU played more 4-1 in the 4th but they still played some 3-8. They were trying some other shit because the DC was bored out of his mind

[ShotgunDawg]

I'll talk more about this tomorrow but actually no. LSU since they were up 18 in the 4th started trying some other shit and got burned doing it

Looks like they started rushing 4

From what I see, the offense works well between the 20 but we need some red zone adjustments

[ShotgunDawg]

LSU played more 4-1 in the 4th but they still played some 3-8. They were trying some other shit because the DC was bored out of his mind

Did La Tech & Memphis do the same in the 4th because the DC got bored?

[Bdawg]

This bud how I measure improvement and direction of the program.... pay attention


W=wins Anything else is bull shit. If I pay a coach 5MM a year his ass better win in year 2.

5 million a year is just the price to play poker. Tired of hearing everyone mention this. It's the cost of doing business in the sec now a days.

[Dieharddawg]

And how many games did y’all win? Playing against how many quality teams? And how far did y’all go in the playoffs?

[Coach34]

Did La Tech & Memphis do the same in the 4th because the DC got bored?

Yes. Why teams get away from the 2 high late in games puzzles me

[Coach34]

And how many games did y’all win? Playing against how many quality teams? And how far did y’all go in the playoffs?

my job was to score and control the clock when asked. Thats what I controlled

[BayouDawg]

Yes. Why teams get away from the 2 high late in games puzzles me

So teams play prevent the entire game against us cause we cant move the ball against it. But when we do move the ball its because the defense went to prevent? Im not following the logic.

[Boya]

I’m back in on Leach for now.

While his offense goes against everything I think about offensive scheme and play calling, I like the way his team plays hard.

We are sloppy and undisciplined right now and maybe that is a function of youth.

All this yap about he won’t change and this offense is shit is in my opinion premature and just the talk of upset fans.

With that being said, this is a QB driven Offense and we better coach up the current dude or find a new one quick.

[Matt3467]

Yes, it sucks really, really bad that we lost the game, especially after playing well enough to win except on a couple of breakdown plays, but I'm not seeing all the negativity here as warranted. It seems like today was a step in the right direction.

Offensively we played well enough to win, racking up 486 yards and 29 first downs on a much more talented defense than we've seen all season. That's the most yards we've had during the Leach Era, other than Costello's 623 yard stomping of LSU in game 1.
More importantly, we threw it down the field more than we've been doing. Austin Williams is figuring out how to get open in the drop 8 and make plays, and Makai Polk is establishing himself as a reliable go-to guy. We haven't clicked yet, but we may go way beyond 486 once we do - we certainly could have today with better execution.
We ran the ball more today, by both attempts and yardage. This offense will be even better when we're running for 100 yards each game.
Both the OL and DL played better.
The defense ... was mostly solid, but had not 1, not 2, but 3 absolute disasters that all led to TDs. Clean that up, and the game resembles our 2017 game with them.


Anyway, I'm in a bad mood that we should have won and blew it, but given the strength of opponent, and how last year + the first 3 games of this year went, I don't think a meltdown is warranted, at least not from a perspective of "I told you the Air Raid can't win SEC games!!!" since the offense was more than good enough to get the win and we're moving in the direction that the same people have clamored to move.

I think a lot of people just never liked Leach and are eager to complain about him any time we lose, regardless of how the game actually went.

Thank goodness for a rational post.

[Coach34]

So teams play prevent the entire game against us cause we cant move the ball against it. .

Teams play Prevent against us to avoid the big plays like LSU did against us today. They know we wont exploit it by running the ball. They know we will move the ball against the Prevent. They expect us to turn the ball over, get penalties, or stop us before we score on them. And they are usually right playing us that way

[Dieharddawg]

I’m sure you are a good coach. But don’t be a me guy.

[ShotgunDawg]

Yes. Why teams get away from the 2 high late in games puzzles me

Gotcha.

[BayouDawg]

Teams play Prevent against us to avoid the big plays like LSU did against us today. They know we wont exploit it by running the ball. They know we will move the ball against the Prevent. They expect us to turn the ball over, get penalties, or stop us before we score on them. And they are usually right playing us that way

What happens when we clean up the mistakes though? Teams content with us scoring every drive? Not saying Im in love with the scheme but I see a team that mostly beats itself.

[ShotgunDawg]

So teams play prevent the entire game against us cause we cant move the ball against it. But when we do move the ball its because the defense went to prevent? Im not following the logic.

The entire deal is confusing

[ShotgunDawg]

I’m back in on Leach for now.

While his offense goes against everything I think about offensive scheme and play calling, I like the way his team plays hard.

We are sloppy and undisciplined right now and maybe that is a function of youth.

All this yap about he won’t change and this offense is shit is in my opinion premature and just the talk of upset fans.

With that being said, this is a QB driven Offense and we better coach up the current dude or find a new one quick.

Great post

[ShotgunDawg]

Teams play Prevent against us to avoid the big plays like LSU did against us today. They know we wont exploit it by running the ball. They know we will move the ball against the Prevent. They expect us to turn the ball over, get penalties, or stop us before we score on them. And they are usually right playing us that way

You’d think we would get better at this as our QB and WRs get more experience in this scheme.

I’d be curious if DCs played Leach the exact same way at Wazzou and Tech until the team showed they could beat it. Then the offense took off because defenses had to do different things.

[memsu06]

We had more rushing yards than LSU today.

Take away the defense sleeping on 2 of their plays and the dumb special teams penalty and we win.

Take away the awful punt return against Memphis and we're 4-0.

The only thing keeping this team from progressing is them.

[ShotgunDawg]

What happens when we clean up the mistakes though? Teams content with us scoring every drive? Not saying Im in love with the scheme but I see a team that mostly beats itself.

This is what happens as Leach is at a school for a while. The prevent works until the program masters the offense and then all hell breaks loose because they can’t just sit back in that defense. They’re forced to blitz and then get burned.

[memsu06]

I’m back in on Leach for now.

While his offense goes against everything I think about offensive scheme and play calling, I like the way his team plays hard.

We are sloppy and undisciplined right now and maybe that is a function of youth.

All this yap about he won’t change and this offense is shit is in my opinion premature and just the talk of upset fans.

With that being said, this is a QB driven Offense and we better coach up the current dude or find a new one quick.

Good points.

Also, all the people complaining about Will not hitting open receivers. Well, that also tells me this offense is working if you got open receivers everywhere. The trick is getting the ball to them. We got to figure that out, and when we do I think we're in for some good times.

[Coach34]

Thats the thing- we dont have have WR's open errywhere

[Dak Holliday]

Thats the thing- we dont have have WR's open errywhere
How is it that so many arm chair quarterbacks want their observations respected, but completely disregard/doubt football scheme with an actual coach? 34, I haven?t always agreed with your posts, but I think you?ve been spot on for a while concerning Leach.

[Matt3467]

You play to win the game. If we had had 120 yards passing and 60 yards rushing and win the game. People would feel better. Yea, there would have been the usual complaining about offensive production stat wise. But like Auburn fans right now, most of them are delirious even though they trailed to G5 Georgia State for 59 minutes and 15 seconds today.

If we have 180yds of offense but still won this board would continue to be in an uproar.

[BayouDawg]

How is it that so many arm chair quarterbacks want their observations respected, but completely disregard/doubt football scheme with an actual coach? 34, I haven?t always agreed with your posts, but I think you?ve been spot on for a while concerning Leach.

To be fair he also wanted Mullen gone and nicknamed Dak check down Charlie. I generally like his input but to act like hes bear Bryant is a bit of a stretch.

[Dak Holliday]

This is what happens as Leach is at a school for a while. The prevent works until the program masters the offense and then all hell breaks loose because they can’t just sit back in that defense. They’re forced to blitz and then get burned.
Please remind me, how many Big 12/ PAC 10 Championships did he win during the seasons on mastery? I?d honestly like to know, because it seems more like that the mastery only happens once every 5-6 yrs or it?s not quite as magical as the picture you?re painting. I?m not the looking to fuss, but don?t piss on my head and tell me it?s raining.

[starkvegasdawg]

We had more rushing yards than LSU today.

Take away the defense sleeping on 2 of their plays and the dumb special teams penalty and we win.

Take away the awful punt return against Memphis and we're 4-0.

The only thing keeping this team from progressing is them.

Take away all the times I failed a test in college and I would have had a 4.0. 17 playing the what if game. That's what losers do and right now that's what we are. We've played 4 games. Lost 2 of them and almost lost 3...all to what should have been inferior opponents. There is no sugar coating that. No glossing it over. No moral victories. No golly gee we'll get em next time. If the only thing keeping us from progressing is ourselves then maybe the guys we're paying millions of dollars to need to figure some things the 17 out.

[Dak Holliday]

To be fair he also wanted Mullen gone and nicknamed Dak check down Charlie. I generally like his input but to act like hes bear Bryant is a bit of a stretch.
No, I get that. I dislike much of his opinion, but his talk about actual game strategy is typically pretty spot on. I guess I better pull it back a bit. He will get the big head. I guess it?s easy to agree with him on this for me.
On a separate note, this forum would be much easier if there was a like button Vs having to make a post to agree.

[MoreCowbell]

This game was never in doubt for LSU today

Thats what Im saying?what were these fools watching. The score was not indicative of that ass kicking at all. We suck

[Lord McBuckethead]

If you reject "pulling stats," how else are you measuring whether we're getting better or worse? Does it mean nothing to you that in SEC games 3-6 we averaged 220 YPG and then in SEC games 7-11 we improved to 400? Yeah, I wish we were better than 3-8 in SEC games, but stats can tell us if we're going in the right direction way better than feelings, eye test, etc.

And stats tell us that we ran more, like people have been wanting. And stats tell us that we didn't have as many 1-yard dumpoffs to the RBs, like people have been wanting.

It is simple. There is a very simple eye test that works with every single team in the nation. I am going to quickly go through which teams are playing good football and which are not.

UF- Good team
GA- Good Team
UK - Good Team
Mizzu- getting better
Tenn - Looking Better Today
Bama Good
Auburn not good
LSU not good
aTm not good
Ark Good
MSU not good
UM good.

Simple. No stats needed.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Thats what Im saying?what were these fools watching. The score was not indicative of that ass kicking at all. We suck

Agreed. At no time did it seem like we could win after the first fumble. And at no time did it look like we were going to stop them.

[Bothrops]

This game was never in doubt for LSU today

It was never in doubt after the fumble.