STATE on the football uniform/jersey

[BHildreth3]

this is what I was trying to create the past week, but hell as a graphic designer, i'll admit this is even better. We should do this immediately. Even if we don't have Air Nike, replace the Air Jordan logo with the Adidas logo and it's still great.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E_SyEzVVkAAHAD1?format=jpg&name=large

[Pinto]

I like it

[ShotgunDawg]

It looks good, but MSU fans needs to realize that NC State & Michigan State also call themselves State. So putting State on our jerseys & helmet isn't really a brand.

It's one reason I'm in favor of the M over S so much because that is our brand. That is uniquely MSU & known as Mississippi State. State on a jersey or helmet is somewhat generic & an ignorant belief that people are going to know who that is.

[Skydawg1]

Michigan State put the script "State" on their helmets in game one.

[OLJWales]

It looks good, but MSU fans needs to realize that NC State & Michigan State also call themselves State. So putting State on our jerseys & helmet isn't really a brand.

It's one reason I'm in favor of the M over S so much because that is our brand. That is uniquely MSU & known as Mississippi State. State on a jersey or helmet is somewhat generic & an ignorant belief that people are going to know who that is.

All of them can go 17 themselves. I've had a 24-7 Hard On for STATE so long a certain part of my anatomy is turning blue. This thread makes me happy. Hopefully not too happy though, might get messy.

[Lord McBuckethead]

It looks good, but MSU fans needs to realize that NC State & Michigan State also call themselves State. So putting State on our jerseys & helmet isn't really a brand.

It's one reason I'm in favor of the M over S so much because that is our brand. That is uniquely MSU & known as Mississippi State. State on a jersey or helmet is somewhat generic & an ignorant belief that people are going to know who that is.

I don?t care if Michigan State and NC State call themselves ?State? or not. We are the ?STATE?. None of those jokers are in the Greatest Conference in the World. It looks better than Miss. State which is dumb and the Mississippi Banner logo is always either too big or too small on the chest and looks dumb anyway.

Simple STATE works perfectly. M over S looks like a junior high football helmet and is not our identity anyway. Baseball yes. Football No.

[ShotgunDawg]

I don?t care if Michigan State and NC State call themselves ?State? or not. We are the ?STATE?. None of those jokers are in the Greatest Conference in the World. It looks better than Miss. State which is dumb and the Mississippi Banner logo is always either too big or too small on the chest and looks dumb anyway.

Simple STATE works perfectly. M over S looks like a junior high football helmet and is not our identity anyway. Baseball yes. Football No.

Agree with your first paragraph & think your 2nd paragraph is silly

[Santiago]

It looks good, but MSU fans needs to realize that NC State & Michigan State also call themselves State. So putting State on our jerseys & helmet isn't really a brand.

It's one reason I'm in favor of the M over S so much because that is our brand. That is uniquely MSU & known as Mississippi State. State on a jersey or helmet is somewhat generic & an ignorant belief that people are going to know who that is.

Agree about Michigan State and Iowa State beating us this year to the "STATE" on unis. It does show that even Iowa State is trying to move away from the "Banner I-State". I don't see how our admin is so adamant on using it on our helmets. I actually wish we could put the Flying M logo somewhere on the unis, large or small, and then use STATE as well.

[dawgman15]

M over S is our brand, it's a matter of opinion on looks but I agree with shotgun that we need a brand logo that sets us apart. I don't think you can accomplish that with just STATE when it could apply to probably a school in almost every state.

[Maroonthirteen]

Mississippi State has a brand logo that sets it apart. ... and some State fans obsessively hate on it.

[Santiago]

M over S is our brand, it's a matter of opinion on looks but I agree with shotgun that we need a brand logo that sets us apart. I don't think you can accomplish that with just STATE when it could apply to probably a school in almost every state.

Agree on STATE is just every regional team out there. "HAIL STATE" is a great branding to use. SEC network sometimes uses that reference to us already.
Seems we mostly all agree that Banner Mstate is not that great, and we need a version of STATE in the uni's. I still like Hail State, or add the Flying M somewhere subtle on them with our Air Raid offense.

[OLJWales]

Throughout life all my football friends, STATE or fans of others have referred to us as STATE.

[William Tecumsah Sherman]

I like our current uniforms except for the helmet logo. It needs to be changed

[redstickdawg]

Mississippi State has a brand logo that sets it apart. ... and some State fans obsessively hate on it.

Because there are much better options out there than the MState that is used. The MState may be unique, but it is uniquely Fugly as well.

[was21]

Looks great....that's why they'll never do it

[Santiago]

Mississippi State has a brand logo that sets it apart. ... and some State fans obsessively hate on it.

The Banner Mstate is a copy logo that other schools use. We actually took the idea from Marshall. How exactly does Banner Mstate set us apart. Not asking in a rude way, but just curious how people view it as a great logo that is setting us apart from the other schools that use the similar logo.

[StarkVegasSteve]

People need to give up on us going to Jordan. Just because Dak is a Jordan Brand guy now doesn't mean that we're magically going to be invited. MJ is the one to personally invite schools into the Jordan Brand and I can promise you that we're not even on MJ's radar. Even if they give us a bad uniform here and there, we need to thank God that Adidas pulled us from the depths of Russell hell. I mean the only Jordan brand football schools are Florida, UNC, Michigan, Oklahoma, and UCLA. We're nothing like any of those schools and neither is OM so folks need to stop freaking out that they might be Jordan brand next.

[Maverick91]

Agree with your first paragraph & think your 2nd paragraph is silly

Assumptions made here. I love when grown adults use little kid verbiage. Brings a jolly chuckle upon me.

[smootness]

People need to give up on us going to Jordan. Just because Dak is a Jordan Brand guy now doesn't mean that we're magically going to be invited. MJ is the one to personally invite schools into the Jordan Brand and I can promise you that we're not even on MJ's radar. Even if they give us a bad uniform here and there, we need to thank God that Adidas pulled us from the depths of Russell hell. I mean the only Jordan brand football schools are Florida, UNC, Michigan, Oklahoma, and UCLA. We're nothing like any of those schools and neither is OM so folks need to stop freaking out that they might be Jordan brand next.

Sir, this is a Wendy's

[BHildreth3]

WHAT I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND IS THIS....In Hattiesburg, we have one of the best graphic designers on the planet - Why in the world, if he can create amazing sport logos, would we NOT use him?????

https://rare.design/

[smootness]

'STATE' is infinitely better on both basketball and football uniforms than the banner logo. That one is straight garbage on athletic uniforms, and it doesn't help for branding since nobody can read it anyway. Also, on a football uniform, if you need them to zoom in on the chest logo to identify the team, you don't know enough to matter anyway.

[Maroonthirteen]

The Banner Mstate is a copy logo that other schools use. We actually took the idea from Marshall. How exactly does Banner Mstate set us apart. Not asking in a rude way, but just curious how people view it as a great logo that is setting us apart from the other schools that use the similar logo.

State fans that hate the current logos can twist their arguement any way they want to fit the narrative. This topic has been discussed over and over and over. It's just interesting so many fans of a school, hate said schools logo.

Many schools use a power (insert initial) logo on a helmet. Wisconsin, Tennessee, Washington etc. The power M incorporates (Mississippi) the banner STATE incorporates our nickname, State.

[Maroonthirteen]

You can't make out the current logo on the maroon helmet because the logo is to small and the same color as the helmet.

As for the helmet, State should design a helmet similar to Wisconsin and Tennessee. White helmet, big power maroon MState and maroon center stripe and maroon facemask. The logo would pop and a white helmet would differentiate from Texas A&M.

[R2Dawg]

M over S is our brand, it's a matter of opinion on looks but I agree with shotgun that we need a brand logo that sets us apart. I don't think you can accomplish that with just STATE when it could apply to probably a school in almost every state.

I always like the MSU interlocking for football from back in the 80s-90s. Didn't like the Mstate at first but it has grown on me.

[Santiago]

State fans that hate the current logos can twist their arguement any way they want to fit the narrative. This topic has been discussed over and over and over. It's just interesting so many fans of a school, hate said schools logo.

Many schools use a power (insert initial) logo on a helmet. Wisconsin, Tennessee, Washington etc. The power M incorporates (Mississippi) the banner STATE incorporates our nickname, State.

My reply was to your comment that the Banner MState "sets it apart". Was just curious how so, since we took the idea from another school.

[BHildreth3]

You can't make out the current logo on the maroon helmet because the logo is to small and the same color as the helmet.

As for the helmet, State should design a helmet similar to Wisconsin and Tennessee. White helmet, big power maroon MState and maroon center stripe and maroon facemask. The logo would pop and a white helmet would differentiate from Texas A&M.

You're right. The only helmet that looks good with the current logo is the white helmet (not a fan vs. maroon, unless we're in the stormtrooper look) b/c it helps the logo stand out. If we added a silver border to the edges, it would look even better.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Agree with your first paragraph & think your 2nd paragraph is silly

And you would be wrong. M over S on the helmet looks like Olive Branch High School or something.
I would be willing to bet, if you showed the M over S to random SEC college football fans in every college town in the SEC, they wouldn't know who the hell that was.
Could it become a strong branding for our entire athletic department, yes it could. But it is not currently.

This conversation is about the graphics on the chest of our football uniforms. "STATE" is the absolute best option for us as a university in the SEC.

[Santiago]

And you would be wrong. M over S on the helmet looks like Olive Branch High School or something.
I would be willing to bet, if you showed the M over S to random SEC college football fans in every college town in the SEC, they wouldn't know who the hell that was.
Could it become a strong branding for our entire athletic department, yes it could. But it is not currently.

This conversation is about the graphics on the chest of our football uniforms. "STATE" is the absolute best option for us as a university in the SEC.


Agree, several high schools use the M over S (or S over M) logo.
Wish we could add "Hail State" to just signify MSU instead of simply "State" since several schools this year are jumping out with "STATE" on their uni's.

[viverlibre]

this is what I was trying to create the past week, but hell as a graphic designer, i'll admit this is even better. We should do this immediately. Even if we don't have Air Nike, replace the Air Jordan logo with the Adidas logo and it's still great.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E_SyEzVVkAAHAD1?format=jpg&name=large
Yes do this immediately. Through the SEC we are ?State,? and should brand ourselves that way

[Lord McBuckethead]

We need a version of Maryland's two sided helmet to end this conversation. The uglier the better.
Maybe the three stripes like our flag on one side of the helmet with the state seal, the other side white with only the M/S logo. with pin stripes behind it. About is ugly as I can think.

[ShotgunDawg]

Throughout life all my football friends, STATE or fans of others have referred to us as STATE.

But you're from Mississippi. You're looking very myopic here. Nationally, MSU is not known as state or even close to being known as State. M over S is our brand that people coast to coast know

[Maverick91]

Why can we not just go back to the 90's and put Miss. State on our chest? It was good enough to take us to the championship game, why are we to good for it now?

[viverlibre]

But you're from Mississippi. You're looking very myopic here. Nationally, MSU is not known as state or even close to being known as State. M over S is our brand that people coast to coast know

I don't know of any other national, big time State schools that brand themselves simply as "State." NC State no, LSU No, FSU no, Penn State no, Arizona State no, Oklahoma State no, I'm really not sure about Michigan State, but we are so far removed from them, I don't think it would matter (plus they jumped on MSU before us). Around the southeast, I think we are commonly referred to as "State," I know on Jox in B'ham, we are usually referred to as "State." Mississippi State is too long and doesn't flow. Just no to MS State, M State or Miss. State.

[Dawgology]

Everyone calls us state. I have friends and family all over the US and abroad many who have never set foot in Mississippi. When college football comes up they almost all say ?how?s State doing this year?. We are known as State.

[OLJWales]

Everyone calls us state. I have friends and family all over the US and abroad many who have never set foot in Mississippi. When college football comes up they almost all say ?how?s State doing this year?. We are known as State.

Yep.

[Percho]

Yep.

Yep, Yep.

[MagicDawg]

My experience is that people from other parts of the country do indeed refer to us as "State."

But even if they didn't already do it, if we intentionally branded that then they would learn to. It's kind of the whole point of marketing and branding. We could certainly grab that space since nobody is really dominating it as a national brand.

[OLJWales]

My experience is that people from other parts of the country do indeed refer to us as "State."

But even if they didn't already do it, if we intentionally branded that then they would learn to. It's kind of the whole point of marketing and branding. We could certainly grab that space since nobody is really dominating it as a national brand.

Yep

[BiscuitEater]

It looks good, but MSU fans needs to realize that NC State & Michigan State also call themselves State. So putting State on our jerseys & helmet isn't really a brand.

Last I checked, Mich State colors are green & white while NC State colors are red and white. Neither wiould be caught dead in maroon!

Only Mississippi State wears maroon!

[Turfdawg67]

I always like the MSU interlocking for football from back in the 80s-90s. Didn't like the Mstate at first but it has grown on me.

I hated the original MState, but I do like the updated one. I also like STATE on the front of the jersey. But then again I also don't mind the gold accents for the egg bowl or white helmets... I did loathe the Don Smith uni's from the 80's though. All those 17'n stripes everywhere.

[R2Dawg]

I hated the original MState, but I do like the updated one. I also like STATE on the front of the jersey. But then again I also don't mind the gold accents for the egg bowl or white helmets... I did loathe the Don Smith uni's from the 80's though. All those 17'n stripes everywhere.

Boy you are right on those stripe uniforms, worst in MSU history. Made me not even want to watch a game, just listen to Jack.

[The Federalist Engineer]

Mississippi State has a brand logo that sets it apart. ... and some State fans obsessively hate on it.

Are you talking about this beautiful and unique logo?

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/vBx6HHlyo4N88qbI7Pt03TFZ7mM=/1400x1400/filters:format(jpeg)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/21981117/IMG_20201022_190109__1_.jpg

[BrunswickDawg]

Last I checked, Mich State colors are green & white while NC State colors are red and white. Neither wiould be caught dead in maroon!

Only Mississippi State wears maroon!

Missouri State is also maroon and white. I doubt many will mistake us and them, but you never know

[Santiago]

Are you talking about this beautiful and unique logo?

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/vBx6HHlyo4N88qbI7Pt03TFZ7mM=/1400x1400/filters:format(jpeg)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/21981117/IMG_20201022_190109__1_.jpg

This is the best Logo for the Air Raid!
If anything, wish it was a little larger M on the helmet

[Matt3467]

I'm not sure why we abandoned the walking bulldog logo. Personally I think that's the best looking logo we've used. Even on the OM side I always thought their Rebel with a cane looked best. Seems like many teams are abandoning those types of logos in favor of more simple and plain logos.

[OLJWales]

I'm not sure why we abandoned the walking bulldog logo. Personally I think that's the best looking logo we've used. Even on the OM side I always thought their Rebel with a cane looked best. Seems like many teams are abandoning those types of logos in favor of more simple and plain logos.

Walking Bully Rocked. Gotta admit.

[BulldogBear]

You can't make out the current logo on the maroon helmet because the logo is to small and the same color as the helmet.

As for the helmet, State should design a helmet similar to Wisconsin and Tennessee. White helmet, big power maroon MState and maroon center stripe and maroon facemask. The logo would pop and a white helmet would differentiate from Texas A&M.
So, basically Croom Error helmets. NT.

Everyone calls us state. I have friends and family all over the US and abroad many who have never set foot in Mississippi. When college football comes up they almost all say ?how?s State doing this year?. We are known as State.
We are not. They likely associate that with you and why they are using the familiar term "State."


My experience is that people from other parts of the country do indeed refer to us as "State."

But even if they didn't already do it, if we intentionally branded that then they would learn to. It's kind of the whole point of marketing and branding. We could certainly grab that space since nobody is really dominating it as a national brand.
All XSU schools are referred to locally, statewide, and sometimes sub regionally as "State." Hear it all the time ad nauseam and it still kind of strikes me because it takes me a second to realize they're not referring to us.

Why can we not just go back to the 90's and put Miss. State on our chest? It was good enough to take us to the championship game, why are we to good for it now?
The jersey looks good. But if we're talking about branding it is "Hail State" folks. THAT IS AN ACTUAL SOMETHING INSTANTLY ASSOCIATED WITH US NATIONALLY. M over S is not unique to Mississippi State nor are similar looking baseball logos with different letters. It is very very very very ordinary and common, especially on baseball uniforms. No matter how much we love it and think it looks great and I wouldn't change one blessed thing about our baseball identity. Thankfully you will find no banner sheise in anything baseball.

As to football or roundball, why STATE on front of jerseys when we can put HAIL STATE?

[Santiago]

So, basically Croom Error helmets. NT.

We are not. They likely associate that with you and why they are using the familiar term "State."


All XSU schools are referred to locally, statewide, and sometimes sub regionally as "State." Hear it all the time ad nauseam and it still kind of strikes me because it takes me a second to realize they're not referring to us.

The jersey looks good. But if we're talking about branding it is "Hail State" folks. THAT IS AN ACTUAL SOMETHING INSTANTLY ASSOCIATED WITH US NATIONALLY. M over S is not unique to Mississippi State nor are similar looking baseball logos with different letters. It is very very very very ordinary and common, especially on baseball uniforms. No matter how much we love it and think it looks great and I wouldn't change one blessed thing about our baseball identity. Thankfully you will find no banner sheise in anything baseball.

As to football or roundball, why STATE on front of jerseys when we can put HAIL STATE?

This is the Best take on it all.
Agree on State in other areas. It is a dime a dozen phrase. And I live and work in different regions of the U.S. However "Hail State" is uniquely us, and I have friends in other states text or email "Hail State" when we have a big win, and I never use it around them. I think they would hear the announcers sometimes or when we had it in the end zone.
M over S is not unique for football helmets. I know several high schools that have that logo on their helmets.
Flying M may or may not suit everyone, but we should at least flash that logo more often, along with a heavy dose of Hail State.

[schddog72]

Mississippi State has a brand logo that sets it apart. ... and some State fans obsessively hate on it.

THIS!!

[TNDawg35]

I'm not sure why we abandoned the walking bulldog logo. Personally I think that's the best looking logo we've used. Even on the OM side I always thought their Rebel with a cane looked best. Seems like many teams are abandoning those types of logos in favor of more simple and plain logos.

I remember seeing a recruiting flyer from Moorehead days where there was a oversize Walking Bully on a maroon Matte helmet with a grey facemask. It was by far the best helmet I have ever seen for State (besides the MSU one)....

Maybe someone can help out and find it. I think I saw it on twitter where a recruit posted it and one of our media guys shared it...

[Offshore Dawg]

Even the cheer is " GO STATE GO " . that would imply that we are known as "STATE"

[The Federalist Engineer]

Pretty Picture

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ENYxW7tUUAAisQ6.jpg:large

[DownwardDawg]

Throughout life all my football friends, STATE or fans of others have referred to us as STATE.

Yep. I travel all over and people from everywhere call us STATE.

[DownwardDawg]

Hail State!!!!!!!!

[Turfdawg67]

Pretty Picture

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ENYxW7tUUAAisQ6.jpg:large

This is absolutely great!! How can I get this display!! I will pay...

ETA... I have a golf ball set that I'll post. Not this impressive, but decent.

[smootness]

Even the cheer is " GO STATE GO " . that would imply that we are known as "STATE"

Also, it's funny that some are saying 'HAIL STATE is ours, not just STATE.' While I agree that HAIL STATE has become a branding thing for us, it also proves that we are called STATE in at least some contexts...since that's what we're called in that phrase.

[TNDawg35]

This is absolutely great!! How can I get this display!! I will pay...

ETA... I have a golf ball set that I'll post. Not this impressive, but decent.

far left row, third down. The very first MSU helmet. That thing is a beaut. I really wish we could get that logo back...