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Schultzy
09-07-2021, 04:00 PM
On the LaTech 54 yard FG with the backup fg kicker in the game?

I say yes

Irondawg
09-07-2021, 04:09 PM
Since they had timeouts I think they were trying to draw us offside for the free 1st down and were gonna call timeout and go for it anyway.

That?s speculation though

Hot Rock
09-07-2021, 05:03 PM
I say no, you don't not back someone up another 5 yards to get them out of field goal range. It was still fourth down.

What you do is don't allow a 1st down on 4th and 11.

For all the worries about Leach and his offense, the defense is a bigger concern to me.

SheltonChoked
09-07-2021, 05:10 PM
I would have.

thf24
09-07-2021, 05:17 PM
I don't think you can decline a pre-snap penalty.

Coach34
09-07-2021, 06:05 PM
I don't think you can decline a pre-snap penalty.

You can decline any penalty

We made them jump on purpose. When they lined up for the FG- we shifted real fast making the line think the ball had been snapped. Sp no- we were never going to decline it considering we made them jump on purpose. We wanted it to be 4th and long instead of hoping for a missed kick

BeardoMSU
09-07-2021, 06:19 PM
You can decline any penalty

We made them jump on purpose. When they lined up for the FG- we shifted real fast making the line think the ball had been snapped. Sp no- we were never going to decline it considering we made them jump on purpose. We wanted it to be 4th and long instead of hoping for a missed kick

Lol, true...but I still knew they'd convert that 4th and long. In the moment, I wanted them to kick that long FG....but I didn't know they'd send their club-footed pigmy out there to croquet the shit out of the ball, lol. It all worked out.

Catfish
09-07-2021, 06:21 PM
Lol, true...but I still knew they'd convert that 4th and long. In the moment, I wanted them to kick that long FG....but I didn't know they'd send their club-footed pigmy out there to croquet the shit out of the ball, lol. It all worked out.

So was it touched or blocked?

confucius say
09-07-2021, 06:32 PM
You can decline any penalty

We made them jump on purpose. When they lined up for the FG- we shifted real fast making the line think the ball had been snapped. Sp no- we were never going to decline it considering we made them jump on purpose. We wanted it to be 4th and long instead of hoping for a missed kick

Yep. I like Brock.

starkvegasdawg
09-07-2021, 06:41 PM
So was it touched or blocked?

I think it was tipped. As soon as it went past the line it took on all the characteristics of a dying quail.

bulldogsmsu
09-07-2021, 06:45 PM
On the LaTech 54 yard FG with the backup fg kicker in the game?

I say yes

I was wondering this same thing and wondered what the odds are since it seems every coach is so analytical these days. I couldn't find exact matches, but this was at least somewhat comparable.

52 Yard Field Goal Percentage (per 2018 power 5 schools 6 of 17 attempts) 35.2%
2020 3rd down percentage rate for 3 and 9/10 31.4%

No way I would check the below websites, but moral of story is seems like taking the penalty would be the right decision. However each are very comparable. AND since we won it was the right decision! haha

https://watchstadium.com/collegekickers-when-they-make-miss-field-goals-by-distance-situation-and-more-06-11-2019/

https://staturdays.com/2021/01/14/comparing-third-down-conversion-rate-by-distance-to-go/

Catfish
09-07-2021, 07:00 PM
I think it was tipped. As soon as it went past the line it took on all the characteristics of a dying quail.

That's what I thought but there hasn't been a lot of talk about a 'tipped' ball.

bulldogsmsu
09-07-2021, 07:03 PM
That's what I thought but there hasn't been a lot of talk about a 'tipped' ball.

They have since changed the stats to a blocked FG according to Steve R.

BeardoMSU
09-07-2021, 07:07 PM
They have since changed the stats to a blocked FG according to Steve R.

Interesting. Watching the replay, I thought he just whiffed it.

bulldogsmsu
09-07-2021, 07:10 PM
Interesting. Watching the replay, I thought he just whiffed it.

Yeah hard to see it, I agree. But the ball moved like a partially blocked FG.

https://norfolkdailynews.com/louisiana-tech-upset-bid-blocked-at-mississippi-state-35-34/article_1b51c0a8-76ba-5ce7-bbfa-73022c7fdeb5.html

https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/mississippi-state-football/rapid-reaction-mississippi-state-survives-late-scare-from-louisiana-tech-to-prevail-35-35/

terradawg
09-07-2021, 07:30 PM
After viewing the game on TV again, it looks like Jaden Crumedy (#94) broke through the middle and tipped it

Todd4State
09-07-2021, 08:31 PM
On the LaTech 54 yard FG with the backup fg kicker in the game?

I say yes

I know in baseball when you go against certain rules like intentionally waking the go ahead run it usually seems to bite you in the ass. No idea if football is the same way but to me it seems like a similar situation to a baseball guy.

Captain Falcon
09-07-2021, 10:39 PM
4th and 10 is still a low percentage play for the offense and our defense had been playing well. Taking the penalty and pushing them out of field goal range was the right call.

Lord McBuckethead
09-08-2021, 12:48 AM
I watched 5 times. I never saw anyone?s arm even near it. But I was 15 beers in at the time. Looked like the guy just hit the ground with his foot and stubbed it.

ScoobaDawg
09-08-2021, 02:13 AM
Never saw it. But yea someone had to get a finger on it.

StarkVegasSteve
09-08-2021, 09:48 AM
So I was in the opposite end zone in the Scoreboard Club and couldn't tell exactly how close it got but the replays looked like it hit the bottom of the crossbar. How close was it to still being a make?

Coach34
09-08-2021, 09:55 AM
So I was in the opposite end zone in the Scoreboard Club and couldn't tell exactly how close it got but the replays looked like it hit the bottom of the crossbar. How close was it to still being a make?

It was nowhere near the crossbar. Well short

Commercecomet24
09-08-2021, 09:56 AM
Crumedy got a couple finger tips on it. Our interior line got a huge push and and caved in their line and Crumedy made a swat and got a couple finger tips on the ball