Will...

[Cowbell]

39/47 for 370 yards 3TD/1int
For you stat guys (7) - That's 83% @ 7.9 yds/att.
And some of you guys act like he's our weakness. I just can't understand it. Some of you boys need to go back and watch the Croom era - we have come a long ways. Heck go watch the joemo era....
When is the last time we had a qb do that and we thought they were below average? As a sophomore? Some of you forget how many passes dak would sail over the running backs on those little "dink and dunks"

And im not talking about Leachs scheme - that still needs work.

[Hambone]

I’m in agreement with you. Those numbers look really good.

[Todd4State]

The reality is some of our fans do not like Leach because he throws the ball a lot and they want us to have a dual threat QB that rushes for 100 yards a game and completes 50% of his passes.

And by proxy they don't like Will because he isn't going to rush for a thousand yards a game either.

[Schultzy]

Good kid…but who is more talented, him or the LaTech qb?

[chef dixon]

Good kid…but who is more talented, him or the LaTech qb?

What's your point?

[msstate7]

Great end of the game for him and the whole team. Nice to see the yds/att tick up yesterday. Let's see what the team does next week. I think we'll be a dog, and I'm pretty worried

[TrapGame]

Good kid…but who is more talented, him or the LaTech qb?

The La Tech QB was a drug rep with his own laptop and company car just a few months ago. I don't think he went through spring practice. He showed up for fall camp. The defensive coaches really underestimated this dude's talent level. And turning the ball over 4 effing times was like squirting lighter fluid on a brush fire.

[Maroonthirteen]

Will Rogers is a helluva QB.

It's the scheme. Throwing into 8 DBs every play. His OL has ridiculous wide splits and aren't athletic enough to cover the inside and outside shoulder. OL needs a lot of work.

[msstate7]

The La Tech QB was a drug rep with his own laptop and company car just a few months ago. I don't think he went through spring practice. He showed up for fall camp. The defensive coaches really underestimated this dude's talent level. And turning the ball over 4 effing times was like squirting lighter fluid on a brush fire.

They turned it over twice for 14 points, thank God

[TrapGame]

Great end of the game for him and the whole team. Nice to see the yds/att tick up yesterday. Let's see what the team does next week. I think we'll be a dog, and I'm pretty worried

One of two things will happen next:

1) We look like ass again. Our 5 can't block their 3. We turn the ball over 3 or 4 times. The defense can't get to the QB. We lose embarrassingly or just barely win by the skin of our teeth again.

Or...

2) We get a fire lit under our asses and we come out with an urgency to win the game. The offense looks like it did in the 4th quarter, making plays. The defense comes out with their hair on fire and we get plenty of pressure on the QB. We win the game by three touchdowns.

We will see what this team is made of next Saturday.

[msugolf]

Will is a great kid. He?d be a school legend if he were at belhaven with the rest of this offense

[Schultzy]

What's your point?

I just don’t think we have an SEC level qb talent wise, and playing behind a mediocre at best OL makes it even more difficult for him.

But he is what we have and he does play hard so maybe we can still find a way to have a decent season

[1bigdawg]

Will was very accurate on his passes.

HOWEVER, he was holding the ball too long and telegraphing some of his passes.

He never got sacked in less than 4 seconds. Telegraphing his passes will be a problem when he is playing against faster, quicker d-backs.

[TheLostDawg]

Will was very accurate on his passes.

HOWEVER, he was holding the ball too long and telegraphing some of his passes.

He never got sacked in less than 4 seconds. Telegraphing his passes will be a problem when he is playing against faster, quicker d-backs.

Yes if he doesn't stop staring down who he is throwing to those int are going to increase fast.

Also our o line has to step up. Defense has to get pressure and stop giving up big plays. We have a long way to go.

[Bdawg]

Will was very accurate on his passes.

HOWEVER, he was holding the ball too long and telegraphing some of his passes.

He never got sacked in less than 4 seconds. Telegraphing his passes will be a problem when he is playing against faster, quicker d-backs.

But how many times was he hurried in less than 4 secs? Sacks don't tell the whole story. A hurry led to a bad decision by Will for the pick. Hurries, sacks, and penalties gives you a better idea of how the line played(and it wasn't very good). OL has to hold blocks better if we want to throw longer developing and deeper routes. I agree with you on the other stuff about Will. Gets your eyes better and speed up decision making a little.

[ShotgunDawg]

Will didn?t have a bad day, but I believe numerous other QBs could?ve done the same.

My frustration isn?t with Will but rather with the fact that we don?t have someone more talented. He?s awfully generic from an ability standpoint and I just don?t think MSU can win like that.

MSU needs a play maker at QB. Whether that guy has a rocket arm or can really run, we need someone that can make something happen when things around them aren?t perfect.

[Jarius]

But how many times was he hurried in less than 4 secs? Sacks don't tell the whole story. A hurry led to a bad decision by Will for the pick. Hurries, sacks, and penalties gives you a better idea of how the line played(and it wasn't very good). OL has to hold blocks better if we want to throw longer developing and deeper routes. I agree with you on the other stuff about Will. Gets your eyes better and speed up decision making a little.

Outside of the turnovers and penalties that were mainly not his fault, Will was the main problem offensively. He does not have the arm strength to throw the ball down field against superior athletes and that will be evident when we don’t play La Tech type defenses and he holds the ball way too long. He can’t help his arm strength issues but he better figure out how to get the ball out like he did in the 4th quarter going forward. The OL wasn’t blocking any better he just got rid of the ball on time. My rankings of offensive issues yesterday goes

1) Will
2) Turnovers
3) Penalties
4) OL

[viverlibre]

Got to get rid of it faster while taking some downfield shots.

[KOdawg1]

Numbers are going to look good when you throw 50 passes/pg with 15 of them to your RBs.

Will isn't a bad QB. He's serviceable. When he attacked down field (bc we HAD to) the offense started clicking. He's gonna throw some picks if he does that. But I'll trade the INTs if it means we stretch the defense. His arm isn't strong. Which means to make up for it, he has to make quicker decisions. Hard to do when your OL can't block air, I know. But if he does those thing we might be okay against lesser teams. Good teams are going to smack us no matter what

[Cowbell]

Outside of the turnovers and penalties that were mainly not his fault, Will was the main problem offensively. He does not have the arm strength to throw the ball down field against superior athletes and that will be evident when we don?t play La Tech type defenses and he holds the ball way too long. He can?t help his arm strength issues but he better figure out how to get the ball out like he did in the 4th quarter going forward. The OL wasn?t blocking any better he just got rid of the ball on time. My rankings of offensive issues yesterday goes

1) Will
2) Turnovers
3) Penalties
4) OL

How can you not have OL #1 - they literally missed assignments or got penalized 50% of the time

[Hambone]

Good kid…but who is more talented, him or the LaTech qb?

We’ll have to wait and compare Will as a 6 year senior vs the La Tech QB.

Yes, I know that won’t happen now but that’s the fact. Dude is a 6 year player

[Hambone]

Outside of the turnovers and penalties that were mainly not his fault, Will was the main problem offensively. He does not have the arm strength to throw the ball down field against superior athletes and that will be evident when we don’t play La Tech type defenses and he holds the ball way too long. He can’t help his arm strength issues but he better figure out how to get the ball out like he did in the 4th quarter going forward. The OL wasn’t blocking any better he just got rid of the ball on time. My rankings of offensive issues yesterday goes

1) Will
2) Turnovers
3) Penalties
4) OL


You usually have some good football talking points, but this is one of your worst. Had Will thrown multiple INT’s or taking more sack than he did then maybe. But the fact that you put OLINE last is comical.

[TrapGame]

We’ll have to wait and compare Will as a 6 year senior vs the La Tech QB.

Yes, I know that won’t happen now but that’s the fact. Dude is a 6 year player

Yeah, La Tech's QB is a grown ass man with a year of eligibility left. His maturity and experience held that offense together.

[99jc]

39/47 for 370 yards 3TD/1int
For you stat guys (7) - That's 83% @ 7.9 yds/att.
And some of you guys act like he's our weakness. I just can't understand it. Some of you boys need to go back and watch the Croom era - we have come a long ways. Heck go watch the joemo era....
When is the last time we had a qb do that and we thought they were below average? As a sophomore? Some of you forget how many passes dak would sail over the running backs on those little "dink and dunks"

And im not talking about Leachs scheme - that still needs work.

My only problems with him are: Slow feet in the pocket moves like a mule standing in mud. Holds the ball way too long throw it out of bounds quit the the sacks. I am am telling you all if we had a running QB like Fitz this offense would be very dangerous.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Good kid?but who is more talented, him or the LaTech qb?

One is at State and the other has been all over and wasnt even playing football.

I think Ill go with the one who hasnt left multiple programs. Im not sure Kendall is more talented but talent is not all its about

[tcdog70]

Will didn?t have a bad day, but I believe numerous other QBs could?ve done the same.

My frustration isn?t with Will but rather with the fact that we don?t have someone more talented. He?s awfully generic from an ability standpoint and I just don?t think MSU can win like that.

MSU needs a play maker at QB. Whether that guy has a rocket arm or can really run, we need someone that can make something happen when things around them aren?t perfect.

You mean like being down 20 points in the 4th quarter but leading ur team to a victory?/ a quarter back like that

[BuckyIsAB****]

Will didn?t have a bad day, but I believe numerous other QBs could?ve done the same.

My frustration isn?t with Will but rather with the fact that we don?t have someone more talented. He?s awfully generic from an ability standpoint and I just don?t think MSU can win like that.

MSU needs a play maker at QB. Whether that guy has a rocket arm or can really run, we need someone that can make something happen when things around them aren?t perfect.

Idk how much less perfect things can go than being down by 20 in the 4th.

Will is going to own every passing record the school has and some on here are just going to have to be mad about it. He is also going to win a lot of ball games. The kid just brought us back from the largest deficit in school history but he just aint good enough for us haha

[Jarius]

You usually have some good football talking points, but this is one of your worst. Had Will thrown multiple INT?s or taking more sack than he did then maybe. But the fact that you put OLINE last is comical.

Will missing wide open receivers downfield only to check it down to the tailback or him holding the ball too long to get a sack was our main issue outside the penalties and turnovers yesterday. He had the single worst performance of the game and many wouldn’t know it because his stats look good like they always will in this offense. He has to push the ball down field more often. We had all 11 on La Tech’s defense within 8 yards of the LOS for a large portion of the game and we kept throwing screens and check downs. He’s got to be able to check out of that and I believe the reason he won’t is because he knows he has a really limited arm and is scared of throwing interceptions. He has to be much better. The OL in D1 football isn’t going to give you an eternity at any place not named Alabama so he better start reacting the way he did in the 4th quarter on a more consistent basis.

[Hot Rock]

My only problems with him are: Slow feet in the pocket moves like a mule standing in mud. Holds the ball way too long throw it out of bounds quit the the sacks. I am am telling you all if we had a running QB like Fitz this offense would be very dangerous.

Defenses would game plan Fitz differently. There would be a lot more trying to contain him and make him beat them with his arm, which he could not do.

What this offense needs is a guy like Russell Wilson? He is mobile to be pass first and will run as needed to get the 1st down and never seems to get hit. Guys like Fitz take too many hits and even get tired after so many runs and become less effective throwing. In this offense, it's the QB's job to find the playmakers, not to be one unless that is the only option. You need that guy there every play. He can't come out for a breather.


This offense requires the short easy throw to be made consistently and Fitz was never that guy. At one point I heard Rogers had double digit passes completed. I am hoping we see a guy with all the skills takeover but until then, Rogers is our guy and he can get better. I as at 7-8 wins preseason, I am not giving up on that but I don't have a warm and fuzzy feeling after what I saw yesterday.

[BuckyIsAB****]

My only problems with him are: Slow feet in the pocket moves like a mule standing in mud. Holds the ball way too long throw it out of bounds quit the the sacks. I am am telling you all if we had a running QB like Fitz this offense would be very dangerous.

Lets compare Leach vs your knowledge of QBs for his offense

[Homedawg]

Idk how much less perfect things can go than being down by 20 in the 4th.

Will is going to own every passing record the school has and some on here are just going to have to be mad about it. He is also going to win a lot of ball games. The kid just brought us back from the largest deficit in school history but he just aint good enough for us haha
He competes. He wasn't perfect by any means. But he wasn't our main problem either. Not close.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Funny yall bring up Fitz, I have never seen two players hated on more here than him and Will.

Both of them compete and one of them is the without question leader of the team

[Jarius]

Idk how much less perfect things can go than being down by 20 in the 4th.

Will is going to own every passing record the school has and some on here are just going to have to be mad about it. He is also going to win a lot of ball games. The kid just brought us back from the largest deficit in school history but he just aint good enough for us haha


Bragging about someone bringing us back from a 20 point deficit against La Tech when he was the quarterback that got us in the mess to start with ain’t it chief. Just no.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Bragging about someone bringing us back from a 20 point deficit against La Tech when he was the quarterback that got us in the mess to start with ain’t it chief. Just no.

Yeah its def on Will that we couldnt block a simple end nose twist or that we couldnt catch the ball at times nor hang on to it. I am not saying he was perfect.

Shitting on a kid and blaming it all on him when he brought us back and completed his last ELEVEN passes to win it aint it either chief

[Jarius]

Yeah its def on Will that we couldnt block a simple end nose twist or that we couldnt catch the ball at times nor hang on to it. I am not saying he was perfect.

Shitting on a kid and blaming it all on him when he brought us back and completed his last ELEVEN passes to win it aint it either chief

Oh it’s definitely not all on him. He just happened to play extremely poorly and looked lost for 3 quarters. I’m glad he figured it out but please stop bragging about him making a miraculous comeback against an awful La Tech team. It’s embarrassing. If you thing the OL at any SEC school is going to give Will the time he apparently thinks he needs to find an open receiver I’ve got some ocean front property for you. He holds on to the ball way too long way too often. Will was a bigger problem than the OL. He is checking the ball down with wide open receivers running down field. The turnover with a strip sack was 100 % on the OL and there were 2 other Ol breakdowns where he didn’t have time. The rest of the pressure was on Will not getting the ball out on time. When you throw it as much as we do you’re going to have protection breakdowns.

[FISHDAWG]

The reality is some of our fans do not like Leach because he throws the ball a lot and they want us to have a dual threat QB that rushes for 100 yards a game and completes 50% of his passes.

And by proxy they don't like Will because he isn't going to rush for a thousand yards a game either.


I'm kind of in this mindset as well... I know Will isn't a Dan Marino but he can play and if he can get some help from better game planning and getting the O-line to gel soon ... If I remember correctly Will was only responsible for one turnover- the fumbles came from the receivers.... I think a running QB like Fitz or Schrader would have done better in this offense since we aren't stretching the field but make no mistake about it .... if this air raid thing would work in this conference then someone would already be playing it . I think we have enough talent to win 7-8 games but just not with this game plan ... I completely understand other posters concerns and consternation but I also don't think it should be directed towards our players... it should be directed towards the top . Now after saying that, I will also say The man needs to have judgement postponed until ext year . It's so easy to make a judgment based on emotion.
Don't crucify me because I was as hard on Leach last year as anyone, but we are just too invested at this time to not give the guy a chance

[BuckyIsAB****]

Oh it’s definitely not all on him. He just happened to play extremely poorly and looked lost for 3 quarters. I’m glad he figured it out but please stop bragging about him making a miraculous comeback against an awful La Tech team. It’s embarrassing. If you thing the OL at any SEC school is going to give Will the time he apparently thinks he needs to find an open receiver I’ve got some ocean front property for you. He holds on to the ball way too long way too often. Will was a bigger problem than the OL. He is checking the ball down with wide open receivers running down field.

We will just have to agree to disagree. That wasnt an awful team by any stretch. And when the corners are bailing off with safeties buzzing down and closing the middle of the field you have to throw quick game and hit them underneath which is exactly what he did. The penalties and turnovers were why we were behind. Will and the teams belief were the reason we came back when many others would have not.

[BuckyIsAB****]

I mean Leach even said after the game when Will struggled it was bc he was trying to show off his arm too much and be too clever. To your point he did also say he misssed an open WR on the pick 6.

[Jarius]

We will just have to agree to disagree. That wasnt an awful team by any stretch. And when the corners are bailing off with safeties buzzing down and closing the middle of the field you have to throw quick game and hit them underneath which is exactly what he did. The penalties and turnovers were why we were behind. Will and the teams belief were the reason we came back when many others would have not.

The defense La Tech ran in the 4th quarter was the same they ran the entire game. The difference was Will made quick decisions in the 4th and we went with a little more urgency. He was the difference both good and bad yesterday outside of penalties and turnovers that had nothing to do with him.

[bulldawg28]

I mean Leach even said after the game when Will struggled it was bc he was trying to show off his arm too much and be too clever. To your point he did also say he misssed an open WR on the pick 6.

If Leach said that he was high off water or something. The only passes Will threw over 15 yards he completed. He should "show it off" more often.

[Cowbell]

Oh it?s definitely not all on him. He just happened to play extremely poorly and looked lost for 3 quarters. I?m glad he figured it out but please stop bragging about him making a miraculous comeback against an awful La Tech team. It?s embarrassing. If you thing the OL at any SEC school is going to give Will the time he apparently thinks he needs to find an open receiver I?ve got some ocean front property for you. He holds on to the ball way too long way too often. Will was a bigger problem than the OL. He is checking the ball down with wide open receivers running down field. The turnover with a strip sack was 100 % on the OL and there were 2 other Ol breakdowns where he didn?t have time. The rest of the pressure was on Will not getting the ball out on time. When you throw it as much as we do you?re going to have protection breakdowns.

Dude I usually like your takes but you are way off. Way off.

[Bdawg]

Outside of the turnovers and penalties that were mainly not his fault, Will was the main problem offensively. He does not have the arm strength to throw the ball down field against superior athletes and that will be evident when we don?t play La Tech type defenses and he holds the ball way too long. He can?t help his arm strength issues but he better figure out how to get the ball out like he did in the 4th quarter going forward. The OL wasn?t blocking any better he just got rid of the ball on time. My rankings of offensive issues yesterday goes


1) Will
2) Turnovers
3) Penalties
4) OL

I just don't know how you say Will was the #1 problem yesterday. If you take away the penalties and turnovers we were mostly driving it right down the field. We shot ourselves in the foot.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

We had 16 possessions yesterday. 1 ended with the Will pic 6, 1 with the Will fumble that's 100% on the LT that didn't touch the rusher. It's called the "blind side" for a reason, there was no way for Will to feel that coming.

We also had 4 fumbles beyond that.

So 5/16 possessions ended on turnovers that weren't Wills fault. Of the other 10 possessions, we scored on half, and had drive killing holds on 3 others. Also, the OL was letting Will get pressured by a 3/4 man rush.

So of 16 possessions, 5 were turnovers that weren't Wills fault, 1 was a Will turnover, 5 were TDs, and 5 were assorted states of OL sucking and the whole O sucking, sure Will included.

How ANYONE can pin this on Will is beyond me. Block the man infront of you, hold onto the football, and we win by 3 scores yesterday

[OLJWales]

We need to figure out how to block better for our receivers if we gonna just dump 4-5 yd passes off.

[Percho]

This to put an end to the discussion relative to Will. the Coach, the team.

Fourth quarter stats yesterday

WILL 9-9 113 yards YPA 12.5555556 two catches by running backs for 13 yards


What if the team had played like that the whole game

How would all of you feel about all of them and the rest of the season? That is why you practice, to perfect everything. To my knowledge no one has ever accomplished perfection. The key is to get as close as you can.


Enjoy the season for; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdhAfMor9BM&ab_channel=crazyshy84

[OLJWales]

This to put an end to the discussion relative to Will. the Coach, the team.

Fourth quarter stats yesterday

WILL 9-9 113 yards YPA 12.5555556 two catches by running backs for 13 yards


What if the team had played like that the whole game

How would all of you feel about all of them and the rest of the season? That is why you practice, to perfect everything. To my knowledge no one has ever accomplished perfection. The key is to get as close as you can.


Enjoy the season for; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdhAfMor9BM&ab_channel=crazyshy84

LMAO. Dat wuz WRONG!

[Jarius]

I just know how you say Will was the #1 problem yesterday. If you take away the penalties and turnovers we were mostly driving it right down the field. We shot ourselves in the foot.

Ok. Will sucked for 3 quarters. He was not the only one that sucked but when you play the most important position on the field and others around you also are not playing great you are the one who affects the outcome the most when you also play poor. The idea that the OL was throwing lookout blocks the entire game is false. They had a ton of penalties which is ridiculous and a couple of people had stupid turnovers. The one specific thing that hurt the most was Will holding on to the ball too long because he’s scared to throw the ball downfield because he has very little arm strength. He padded stats well yesterday but if you watched that and came away with a positive view of our quarterback you are not watching the same game as most.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Ok. Will sucked for 3 quarters. He was not the only one that sucked but when you play the most important position on the field and others around you also are not playing great you are the one who affects the outcome the most when you also play poor. The idea that the OL was throwing lookout blocks the entire game is false. They had a ton of penalties which is ridiculous and a couple of people had stupid turnovers. The one specific thing that hurt the most was Will holding on to the ball too long because he’s scared to throw the ball downfield because he has very little arm strength. He padded stats well yesterday but if you watched that and came away with a positive view of our quarterback you are not watching the same game as most.

You have no idea what youre talking about when it comes to Will Rogers haha trust me he is not scared to throw it deep.

[Jarius]

You have no idea what youre talking about when it comes to Will Rogers haha trust me he is not scared to throw it deep.

He is either scared to throw it deep or he can’t see wide open targets down field. It’s one or the other.

[MaroonFlounder]

You know it's gonna happen, because we Mstate everything up.

Rogers will be just effective enough to keep his QB1 spot the next couple of years.

And Sawyer will transfer out and become an All-American somewhere else and maybe win a championship at some level.

[BuckyIsAB****]

He is either scared to throw it deep or he can’t see wide open targets down field. It’s one or the other.

Maybe, just maybe he is taking what the defense gives him most of the time. I am
By no means saying he played perfect but he is not the biggest problem

[Jarius]

Maybe, just maybe he is taking what the defense gives him most of the time. I am
By no means saying he played perfect but he is not the biggest problem

He isn’t just taking what the defense gives him. The defense didn’t change but where he went with the ball did in the 4th quarter. They were that open all game. I was on Will’s bandwagon before the year and I will be at the game Saturday and every other game this year, but he was a major problem yesterday for 3 quarters. If he plays well going forward I will give him kudos. Unlike some when information changes I will change my opinion. We may end up winning a bunch of games and scoring a bunch of points. If will plays like he did yesterday for the first 3 quarters we will not, Turnovers and penalties or not.

[Cowbell]

He isn?t just taking what the defense gives him. The defense didn?t change but where he went with the ball did in the 4th quarter. They were that open all game. I was on Will?s bandwagon before the year and I will be at the game Saturday and every other game this year, but he was a major problem yesterday for 3 quarters. If he plays well going forward I will give him kudos. Unlike some when information changes I will change my opinion. We may end up winning a bunch of games and scoring a bunch of points. If will plays like he did yesterday for the first 3 quarters we will not, Turnovers and penalties or not.

He was good for 2 quarters - perfect 1

[Jarius]

He was good for 2 quarters - perfect 1

He was playing Louisiana tech. That is not an acceptable performance. We have way more talent than them. If he played yesterday’s game against Texas A&M no One would bat an eye.

[Cowbell]

He was playing Louisiana tech. That is not an acceptable performance. We have way more talent than them. If he played yesterday?s game against Texas A&M no One would bat an eye.

Not the point of my statement / if you want to make an argument for or against something don't stretch it into something different than it is - it makes your argument invalid

[Bdawg]

Ok. Will sucked for 3 quarters. He was not the only one that sucked but when you play the most important position on the field and others around you also are not playing great you are the one who affects the outcome the most when you also play poor. The idea that the OL was throwing lookout blocks the entire game is false. They had a ton of penalties which is ridiculous and a couple of people had stupid turnovers. The one specific thing that hurt the most was Will holding on to the ball too long because he’s scared to throw the ball downfield because he has very little arm strength. He padded stats well yesterday but if you watched that and came away with a positive view of our quarterback you are not watching the same game as most.

I know you are going to die on your hill, but exactly how many shots downfield would appease you? How many deep shots do you think are there to be made? I would say in average game against a normal defense, you would hope to complete, what, 2 maybe 3 in a game? So how many are we supposed to complete when the defense is playing back trying to take away the deep ball? Again, nobody is saying Will had a great game. But to say he is the number 1 problem when we had turnovers and penalties galore to kill drives just doesn't add up to me.

Edit: I do agree his arm strength does look lacking. Those long out routes looked like they took forever to get there. But I don't know if he's just trying to accurate and not try to gun it every throw. But to be a qb on a sec scholarship, I bet he can throw a decent deep ball if given a shot. But that's just a guess by me.*

[Jarius]

I know you are going to die on your hill, but exactly how many shots downfield would appease you? How many deep shots do you think are there to be made? I would say in average game against a normal defense, you would hope to complete, what, 2 maybe 3 in a game? So how many are we supposed to complete when the defense is playing back trying to take away the deep ball? Again, nobody is saying Will had a great game. But to say he is the number 1 problem when we had turnovers and penalties galore to kill drives just doesn't add up to me.

There were at least 7 or 8 times when Will didn’t throw intermediate routes that were wide ass open. I’m not talking about throwing vertical routes. I’m talking about the intermediate routes that were wide open all day and he either scrambled or checked it down or took a sack. He had a great completion % but if he is throwing them to the wrong targets that means little when we have 14 points on Louisiana tech through 3 quarters. He gets credit for hitting those routes in the 4th quarter but there is only so much credit to give when La Tech is the opponent. Just because I think he played really bad for a large portion of the game does not mean I think everyone else played well on offense. The penalties and fumbles by a guy who keeps getting free passes for fumbling in huge moments have to stop. It’s unacceptable.

[Bdawg]

There were at least 7 or 8 times when Will didn’t throw intermediate routes that were wide ass open. I’m not talking about throwing vertical routes. I’m talking about the intermediate routes that were wide open all day and he either scrambled or checked it down or took a sack. He had a great completion % but if he is throwing them to the wrong targets that means little when we have 14 points on Louisiana tech through 3 quarters. He gets credit for hitting those routes in the 4th quarter but there is only so much credit to give when La Tech is the opponent. Just because I think he played really bad for a large portion of the game does not mean I think everyone else played well on offense. The penalties and fumbles by a guy who keeps getting free passes for fumbling in huge moments have to stop. It’s unacceptable.

This is your most rational post of the day. Yeah I'm sure he missed some routes. It's is the first game, and there are a few new receivers to get used to. I believe the if the OL gets better, he could find those routes easier too. Like you said, he had to scramble some. Build off the fourth quarter and learn from the second and third quarter. If he doesn't get better and someone can bet him out, then by all means let the best man play.

[Percho]

Will missing wide open receivers downfield only to check it down to the tailback or him holding the ball too long to get a sack was our main issue outside the penalties and turnovers yesterday. He had the single worst performance of the game and many wouldn?t know it because his stats look good like they always will in this offense. He has to push the ball down field more often. We had all 11 on La Tech?s defense within 8 yards of the LOS for a large portion of the game and we kept throwing screens and check downs. He?s got to be able to check out of that and I believe the reason he won?t is because he knows he has a really limited arm and is scared of throwing interceptions. He has to be much better. The OL in D1 football isn?t going to give you an eternity at any place not named Alabama so he better start reacting the way he did in the 4th quarter on a more consistent basis.

I wish we would check up instead of check down for a play or two.

[preachermatt83]

The reality is some of our fans do not like Leach because he throws the ball a lot and they want us to have a dual threat QB that rushes for 100 yards a game and completes 50% of his passes.

And by proxy they don't like Will because he isn't going to rush for a thousand yards a game either.

Exactly. It?s ridiculous. What leach does works. Period.

[Todd4State]

There were at least 7 or 8 times when Will didn’t throw intermediate routes that were wide ass open. I’m not talking about throwing vertical routes. I’m talking about the intermediate routes that were wide open all day and he either scrambled or checked it down or took a sack. He had a great completion % but if he is throwing them to the wrong targets that means little when we have 14 points on Louisiana tech through 3 quarters. He gets credit for hitting those routes in the 4th quarter but there is only so much credit to give when La Tech is the opponent. Just because I think he played really bad for a large portion of the game does not mean I think everyone else played well on offense. The penalties and fumbles by a guy who keeps getting free passes for fumbling in huge moments have to stop. It’s unacceptable.

That's what I see too. We need to start hitting those guys 10-15 yards downfield more. Like we did in the fourth quarter. That deep corner route was wide open several times and we even hit it some.

[Dolphus Raymond]

The play of our QB was not our biggest issue. Keep in mind that 2 incompletions were balls that were dropped. Turn overs, penalties, OL play and then QB. The 4th quarter come back, even considering the opponent, was impressive.

[SheltonChoked]

39/47 for 370 yards 3TD/1int
For you stat guys (7) - That's 83% @ 7.9 yds/att.
And some of you guys act like he's our weakness. I just can't understand it. Some of you boys need to go back and watch the Croom era - we have come a long ways. Heck go watch the joemo era....
When is the last time we had a qb do that and we thought they were below average? As a sophomore? Some of you forget how many passes dak would sail over the running backs on those little "dink and dunks"

And im not talking about Leachs scheme - that still needs work.

The issue with Will is arm strength. That's it. If he had KJ's arm, he'd be perfect. He is accurate. He make good decisions quickly most of the time. When he had time to throw late in the game he was very very good.

But even La Tech's safeties were only 12 yards deep and we only hit 2 passes longer than 12 yards in the air. That limits the offense to not be able to take the top off.

Will had a throw in the first quarter (i think), on a 8 yard out from the opposite hash. A long throw, and he had to put some air under it. But that's his max distance throw.

That keeps everything close in and the defense can play to keep everything in front of them. which limits big plays. Which makes us drive the field, and makes it even harder if we get behind the sticks.

And it's why I don't think he starts at the end of the year. When the game slows down for sawyer, he'll play..