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basedog
07-06-2021, 04:17 PM
Each player on scholarship would receive $500 per month.

Things are fixing to get out of hand for college athletes. I'm thinking the rich about to get really rich and it's gonna be some bitching about some players getting more than others. Jealous happens all the time in Pro Sports and with the portal thingy imagine how the "blue collars" will approach certain players in the "free market era"!

I'm not for this, just saying.

ShotgunDawg
07-06-2021, 04:21 PM
Each player on scholarship would receive $500 per month.

Things are fixing to get out of hand for college athletes. I'm thinking the rich about to get really rich and it's gonna be some bitching about some players getting more than others. Jealous happens all the time in Pro Sports and with the portal thingy imagine how the "blue collars" will approach certain players in the "free market era"!

I'm not for this, just saying.

Thing is many schools have way more money than Bama, Clemson, & Ohio State.

Texas A&M, Texas, Stanford, Michigan, etc can obliterate them

basedog
07-06-2021, 04:25 PM
Big markets have a huge advantage, so does the so called Power 5 Conferences. Not sure schools like Southern Miss will be able to compete in Division one.
Not sure how the "basketball schools only" will compete, probably well. Maybe in baseball we will do well in this NIL ruling but again I'm not for it.

AlSwearengen
07-06-2021, 04:37 PM
I don’t see how this is good for college sports.

mparkerfd20
07-06-2021, 04:43 PM
College football will be unwatchable in less than 5 years without modifications to the current NIL rules. College Basketball within 3. Baseball within 10. Unless there is a limit placed somewhere, the rich WILL become richer.

starkvegasdawg
07-06-2021, 04:44 PM
I'm not overly knowledgeable on this NIL thing. Is the $100 handshake or putting some tires on hold still a violation?

ShotgunDawg
07-06-2021, 04:50 PM
I'm not overly knowledgeable on this NIL thing. Is the $100 handshake or putting some tires on hold still a violation?

Yes, but giving $100 to the tire place & letting the tire place ask an athlete to tweet out an endorsement of the tire place before handing him the $100 & new tires, is not a violation any longer

The Federalist Engineer
07-06-2021, 04:53 PM
Thing is many schools have way more money than Bama, Clemson, & Ohio State.

Texas A&M, Texas, Stanford, Michigan, etc can obliterate them

Stanford Billionaires are prolly too busy buying the world's farmland, managing mass media, orchestrating regime changes, and firming-up geopolitical supremacy to fiddle with college football.

Paying football players might stay the domain of Night-Club operators, Auto Dealers, CBD Dispensary's, Taco Bell Franchise owners, LaVar Ball, Pain-Management Doctors, Title Loan operators, and Personal Injury Lawyers. In other words, OM probably has the correct alumni base to be successful in the new world.

basedog
07-06-2021, 04:53 PM
Yes, but giving $100 to the tire place & letting the tire place ask an athlete to tweet out an endorsement of the tire place before handing him the $100 & new tires, is not a violation any longer

Crazy!!!

msstate7
07-06-2021, 05:58 PM
Thing is many schools have way more money than Bama, Clemson, & Ohio State.

Texas A&M, Texas, Stanford, Michigan, etc can obliterate them

Ivy League schools bout to ball**

MetEdDawg
07-06-2021, 06:03 PM
I hate everything about NIL in this context, mostly because you get exploitation of kids and young adults who for the most part don't know any better. A lot of these kids have never seen this kind of money and it can do way more harm than good.

I get it though and I get why folks are pushing for it. But I'm just trying to think back to how some of my former students might have handled this kind of money coming directly to them and for some of them, a lot more bad than good would occur.

I just have a bad feeling that this is going to end poorly for us. I may be out of the loop but I haven't seen anything come across social media yet for any of our football players. And that's where all this really matters. Football. And can we provide an atmosphere conducive to getting paid in Starkville. And it concerns me that we can't at the level others can in conference.

R2Dawg
07-06-2021, 06:29 PM
I don’t see how this is good for college sports.

There is nothing good about this. People are stupid about the whole thing.

R2Dawg
07-06-2021, 06:30 PM
Yes, but giving $100 to the tire place & letting the tire place ask an athlete to tweet out an endorsement of the tire place before handing him the $100 & new tires, is not a violation any longer

Like I said before pandoras box is open and the wild wild west.

BuckyIsAB****
07-06-2021, 08:45 PM
Each player on scholarship would receive $500 per month.

Things are fixing to get out of hand for college athletes. I'm thinking the rich about to get really rich and it's gonna be some bitching about some players getting more than others. Jealous happens all the time in Pro Sports and with the portal thingy imagine how the "blue collars" will approach certain players in the "free market era"!

I'm not for this, just saying.

Uh. State players were getting more than that already. Relax

Topbulldawg
07-06-2021, 10:03 PM
Each player on scholarship would receive $500 per month.

Things are fixing to get out of hand for college athletes. I'm thinking the rich about to get really rich and it's gonna be some bitching about some players getting more than others. Jealous happens all the time in Pro Sports and with the portal thingy imagine how the "blue collars" will approach certain players in the "free market era"!

I'm not for this, just saying.

I see this becoming a replacement for the bulldog club. Some new organization is spun up that is indirectly tied to the university that solicits donations so they can advertise something. The organization then pays the player. The net sum of this is that it hurts us because we don't have the rich alumni base others do and also are not located in a big market.

OLJWales
07-07-2021, 08:27 AM
So fans pool money together then give it To a business that gets free advertising? How is this different than bag men?

Lord McBuckethead
07-07-2021, 08:40 AM
I don’t see how this is good for college sports.

It really has nothing to do with whether or not it is good for college sports. It has everything to do with the rights of said players. Notice that because college sports took a shit path the second open recruiting began with players. That was long time ago, but it started the issues that still persisted a month ago. Players in demand, just like all people in the world, can demand higher pay. That simple attempt at higher pay is a right in a capitalist society. People get paid what they negotiate and until last week, college players had zero rights to negotiate, unlike literally every other single person on campus.

Is it terrible for college sports, absolutely. Is it terrible for schools, absolutely. Is it fair on the open market, absolutely.

Lord McBuckethead
07-07-2021, 08:40 AM
So fans pool money together then give it To a business that gets free advertising? How is this different than bag men?

Are you under the impression that the old rules still apply?

Lord McBuckethead
07-07-2021, 08:42 AM
So fans pool money together then give it To a business that gets free advertising? How is this different than bag men?

My new question is this, does each player get a cut of the SEC network now? Does each player deserve money for promotional items put out by the university. Their likeness is essentially copyrighted now. IF I were the QB at Oklahoma, I would be asking these questions about ESPN's rights to make money off my likeness.

Lord McBuckethead
07-07-2021, 08:44 AM
Ivy League schools bout to ball**

If they relax their entrance requirements for football, yes they could.

Jack Lambert
07-07-2021, 08:45 AM
Wait until women start to take them to court.

OLJWales
07-07-2021, 09:21 AM
It really has nothing to do with whether or not it is good for college sports. It has everything to do with the rights of said players. Notice that because college sports took a shit path the second open recruiting began with players. That was long time ago, but it started the issues that still persisted a month ago. Players in demand, just like all people in the world, can demand higher pay. That simple attempt at higher pay is a right in a capitalist society. People get paid what they negotiate and until last week, college players had zero rights to negotiate, unlike literally every other single person on campus.

Is it terrible for college sports, absolutely. Is it terrible for schools, absolutely. Is it fair on the open market, absolutely.

Do you think salary caps in professional sports are legit?

Tbonewannabe
07-07-2021, 09:46 AM
Wait until women start to take them to court.

This is going to be interesting how this affects Title IX. Some hot female athletes probably could make some money where they couldn't previously. There was some University of Colorado WR about a decade ago that was also trying to make the Olympics in skiing. He wasn't allowed to receive money from the endorsements from skiing or he would lose his eligibility in football. He had to choose football or skiing. This will at least eliminate that issue.

Tbonewannabe
07-07-2021, 09:49 AM
College football will be unwatchable in less than 5 years without modifications to the current NIL rules. College Basketball within 3. Baseball within 10. Unless there is a limit placed somewhere, the rich WILL become richer.

It is already almost unwatchable. When you can name 6 teams that have a chance to be in the 4 team playoff in July then the sport is pretty much broken anyway. I have no clue how this will impact it but it can't get much worse unless we decide not to get into the business and don't make bowl games.

FISHDAWG
07-07-2021, 09:55 AM
Yes, but giving $100 to the tire place & letting the tire place ask an athlete to tweet out an endorsement of the tire place before handing him the $100 & new tires, is not a violation any longer

or what about the $10K for a simple autograph ? Does this mean Cannon Motors is back in business ?

redstickdawg
07-07-2021, 10:08 AM
It is already almost unwatchable. When you can name 6 teams that have a chance to be in the 4 team playoff in July then the sport is pretty much broken anyway. I have no clue how this will impact it but it can't get much worse unless we decide not to get into the business and don't make bowl games.

College sports as we have known them are effectively over, at least for any pretense of amateur status. I think that we will see a transition to more of a semi pro approach where the SEC becomes officially recognized as the NFL AAA minor league equivalent. The only way that I think it becomes manageable at all is for a salary cap type of approach, otherwise the payoffs become even more unwatchable as Bama and a few others get into huge bidding wars for the latest 5 star OT, etc. As several have mentioned the rich get richer and any pretense that most of the athletes are students is officially gone.

Commercecomet24
07-07-2021, 10:21 AM
It really has nothing to do with whether or not it is good for college sports. It has everything to do with the rights of said players. Notice that because college sports took a shit path the second open recruiting began with players. That was long time ago, but it started the issues that still persisted a month ago. Players in demand, just like all people in the world, can demand higher pay. That simple attempt at higher pay is a right in a capitalist society. People get paid what they negotiate and until last week, college players had zero rights to negotiate, unlike literally every other single person on campus.

Is it terrible for college sports, absolutely. Is it terrible for schools, absolutely. Is it fair on the open market, absolutely.

This is it in a nutshell.

Joebob
07-08-2021, 10:39 AM
My new question is this, does each player get a cut of the SEC network now?

Just wait until the players decide to strike because they don't like the contract. This is where this could end up eventually.