Omaha Game Thread - MSU v Vandy

[Lord McBuckethead]

We aren't beating Rocker with a makeshift pitching rotation.

Yes we can. I just hope our hitters get us to game 3.

[ScoobaDawg]

We aren't beating Rocker with a makeshift pitching rotation.

What do you mean.
Hootie tomorrow night.
Bednar VS rocker wed

[BayouDawg]

Mac has earned every bit of criticism for tonight. Same goes for Lemonis and Foxhall. You could tell after the first walk he did not have it. Again. Just pissed off. We all said back In 13 that we could win the next game then throw Graveman, but we know how that went. Highly doubt our bats wake up for tomorrow to give us a win

The worst thing is every vandy run expect for maybe 2 reached base via walk or hbp. This is just like 2013 when UCLA came in with bad hitting. The book on them was no walks and no errors. What do we proceed to do? Walk the ballpark and kick the ball around all night. Just fukk it all.

[R2Dawg]

Let's get tomorrow first. But I could see a Bednar, Cade Smith, Brandon Smith scenario on Wednesday that could get the W.

So tomorrow Harding, Johnson and Sims?

[Cooterpoot]

Hootie will have to give us 4+. We will have to burn Sims & Johnson to win. Then Bednar will have to go 5+. And who know who goes behind him. I just can't see it. We really had to win tonight or at least eat up their pen.

[maroonmania]

One way you can tell that Vandy does things 'differently' in terms of financial aid for their baseball players is that they have BY FAR the most minorities on their team of any school around. Lots of high draft projected blacks and hispanics all over the team that come from all over the country. Something you really don't see anywhere else.

[CadaverDawg]

We have struck out a ton of guys and we are in the Championship....so clearly Foxhall is a good coach right? But on the other hand, how do you have arms like Cerentola, Macleod, and Fristoe ALL regress to the point that they can't even pitch an inning of quality ball for you? Cerentola has always been wild, but what in the hell happened to Macleod and Fristoe this year?

[BayouDawg]

The game is over.. Not the series..

I hope so

[R2Dawg]

We can still win this series.

[Mjoelner34]

Well, at least we doubled our run output from the 2013 championship tonight.

[CadaverDawg]

I kinda think the finals should give both teams who get there enough time to reset there rotation and be at full strength. If you make it that far, each team should have their best available to play a series for it all. But for sure we shouldn't have been penalized for what happened to NC State.

Agree

[msstate7]

Hootie will have to give us 4+. We will have to burn Sims & Johnson to win. Then Bednar will have to go 5+. And who know who goes behind him. I just can't see it. We really had to win tonight or at least eat up their pen.

I'm with you. Unless we get a win tomorrow without sims, we done

[SilentSteel16]

What do you mean.
Hootie tomorrow night.
Bednar VS rocker wed

That is correct

[smootness]

Hootie will have to give us 4+. We will have to burn Sims & Johnson to win. Then Bednar will have to go 5+. And who know who goes behind him. I just can't see it. We really had to win tonight or at least eat up their pen.

Everyone goes as much as they can. No one is burned because they pitched the game prior. In that game 3, you go with your best and tell them to give you everything they have left.

[BeardoMSU]

The game is over.. Not the series..

Absolutely.

Look, we're obviously all miserable tonight...no need to make everyone more miserable by being an insufferable cu^t. And that's not directed to you, Bayou, just a comment for everyone.

[msstate7]

That is correct

Rocker is better and he'd a full day rest on bednar.

[R2Dawg]

We have struck out a ton of guys and we are in the Championship....so clearly Foxhall is a good coach right? But on the other hand, how do you have arms like Cerentola, Macleod, and Fristoe ALL regress to the point that they can't even pitch an inning of quality ball for you? Cerentola has always been wild, but what in the hell happened to Macleod and Fristoe this year?

I agree. EC still baffles me and why we gave up so soon. How can you be a preseason top 5 pick and now can't make the practice squad yet we can't field 3 starting pitchers?

[ScoobaDawg]

And there's hope. Base hit.
Not really though

[BayouDawg]

We can still win this series.

Absolutely. When you dont give vandy free bases they are very pedestrian offensively. Its up to our pitchers to nut up

[msstate7]

Score a couple here to get a little
Momentum headed into tomorrow

[smootness]

I agree. EC still baffles me and why we gave up so soon. How can you be a preseason top 5 pick and now can't make the practice squad yet we can't field 3 starting pitchers?

Cerantola was not a preseason top 5 pick, at least not by anyone who knew what they were talking about.

[Really Clark?]

Alright boys, back to back hits

[BayouDawg]

Absolutely.

Look, we're obviously all miserable tonight...no need to make everyone more miserable by being an insufferable cu^t. And that's not directed to you, Bayou, just a comment for everyone.

Lol I?m in a glass case of emotion. And alcohol

[ScoobaDawg]

Oh let's get 2 on. PH for Mule with skinner.

[R2Dawg]

Rocker is better and he'd a full day rest on bednar.

Rocker may be better but Bednar don't have to beat one player. Bednar can beat Vandy - using your Vandy metrics he has already done it once and is 1-0 vs Vandy. He also set a CWS strikeout record. Rocker ain't done that.

So yeah Bednar can win. I don't care if Rocker is drafted first.

[maroonmania]

I kinda think the finals should give both teams who get there enough time to reset there rotation and be at full strength. If you make it that far, each team should have their best available to play a series for it all. But for sure we shouldn't have been penalized for what happened to NC State.

I agree, but if Lemo was determined to still pitch Mac we were going to likely lose that game no matter what.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Skinner hasn't touched a ball since March.

[maroonmania]

Skinner swings at 2 in the dirt and the one he could have put a bat on he watches.

[ScoobaDawg]

And he freezes him with an outside slider. 2 down

[R2Dawg]

Cerantola was not a preseason top 5 pick, at least not by anyone who knew what they were talking about.

I heard a top baseball analyst on radio say it dude. He even said he had a chance to be the #1 pick. I ain't no expert getting interviewed but that guy was.

Have you been interviewed by baseball experts?

[HoopsDawg]

Oh let's get 2 on. PH for Mule with skinner.

And Mule really needed a good AB before tomorrow. I don't get that move.

[CadaverDawg]

Bottom of our lineup. Oof

[CadaverDawg]

And Mule really needed a good AB before tomorrow. I don't get that move.

Dumb move

[HoopsDawg]

I heard a top baseball analyst on radio say it dude. He even said he had a chance to be the #1 pick. I ain't no expert getting interviewed but that guy was.

He will still be drafted in the Top 5 rounds and isn't even on our roster.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Strike 3 on Clark was a ball.

[BayouDawg]

Good god that sucked. Tomorrow is a new day

[Lord McBuckethead]

The last pitch was above the catchers head.

[ScoobaDawg]

Back to back k's with the bat on the shoulder.

Hootie. Gotta be your best tomorrow.. It's the season and our legagy.

[msstate7]

Dumb move

Maybe, but the game was over anyway. I'm just gonna assume
Vandy pitchwr has bad splits lhh/rhh

[msstate7]

He will still be drafted in the Top 5 rounds and isn't even on our roster.

Huge fail by our staff

[maroonmania]

Yep, all these college umps suck so not much use in complaining.

[HoopsDawg]

So tomorrow Harding, Johnson and Sims?

Yes. Harding will get hit, but he usually doesn't walk batters. Johnson can be the bridge to Sims and Sims can go 3+ innings.

Wednesday we would have Bednar, Stinnett, Cade Smith, Brandon Smith, Stone Simmons. That's enough quality arms to get it done.

[R2Dawg]

Dumb move

Yeah that was a loser move, full retard.

[CadaverDawg]

Wish Macleod had had a blister pregame, we mighta won

[msstate7]

Yes. Harding will get hit, but he usually doesn't walk batters. Johnson can be the bridge to Sims and Sims can go 3+ innings.

Wednesday we would have Bednar, Stinnett, Cade Smith, Brandon Smith, Stone Simmons. That's enough quality arms to get it done.

How we gonna get 4-5 runs on Wednesday?

[Bulldog1]

And Mule really needed a good AB before tomorrow. I don't get that move.

Just another genius move by Lemonis.

[BayouDawg]

Huge fail by our staff

I dunno. Canada had plenty of opportunities. I mean 3 years worth. He may pan out in the pros but he also may continue to be a head case

[R2Dawg]

Yes. Harding will get hit, but he usually doesn't walk batters. Johnson can be the bridge to Sims and Sims can go 3+ innings.

Wednesday we would have Bednar, Stinnett, Cade Smith, Brandon Smith, Stone Simmons. That's enough quality arms to get it done.

I agree. If Harding goes well and Johnson Sims might can give a few outs Wed too if he is efficient Tuesday.

[Activated Alpha]

It all comes down to our offense, walks, and perfect fielding. We have to get it going tomorrow. I cannot stomach another heartbreaker like 13

[msstate7]

I dunno. Canada had plenty of opportunities. I mean 3 years worth. He may pan out in the pros but he also may continue to be a head case

Career ended with a 3.67 era and over 12 k/9

[lastmajordog]

Since Vandy has more scholarship players.....there should be an * by any championships....?

[HoopsDawg]

Huge fail by our staff

I said before the season we would learn a lot about Foxall by what he does with Cerantola. Maybe that's not fair. Maybe no one could have done better.

[R2Dawg]

Wish Macleod had had a blister pregame, we mighta won

Ifs and buts. Wonder what happens if we had started Fristoe? I think the last game or two was in Macs head too far. Fristoe has had time to recover mentally. Mac just hadn't.

[HoopsDawg]

Since Vandy has more scholarship players.....there should be an * by any championships....?

I guess we could hang a banner.

[R2Dawg]

Since Vandy has more scholarship players.....there should be an * by any championships....?

That Covid player is their MVP and was a walk on.

[maroonmania]

Wish Macleod had had a blister pregame, we mighta won

Sometimes, I wish a pitcher like Mac would just tell his coach that he has lost it for right now and that he should pitch someone else. You would think Lemo and Fox could see that but apparently not.

[ScoobaDawg]

Once again screw the ncaa. Leiter should have been burned Friday one way or another.
Oh and screw the ncaa and I'm sorry NC state too. They knew players were sick Monday per Kendalls story. They should have been disqualified then and Stanford would have moved on as undefeated and forced vandy to beat them twice.

We are setup fine though. If we had won Thursday. Bednar would have pitched tonight. Instead he pitches we'd hopefully.

[R2Dawg]

I guess we could hang a banner.

If we can win one, we'd have same number of CWS wins as Vandy so we'd be co champs right. Order the banner.

[ImissCityBagel]

Sometimes, I wish a pitcher like Mac would just tell his coach that he has lost it for right now and that he should pitch someone else. You would think Lemo and Fox could see that but apparently not.

I feel a little bad for him. He probably knew, but if he said anything they still would have trotted him out there.

[Bdawg]

The last pitch was above the catchers head.

Asswipe was ready to go home.

[Bothrops]

Since Vandy has more scholarship players.....there should be an * by any championships....?

They started one of their two aces and we couldn't, that's a huge advantage for game 1.

[R2Dawg]

Sometimes, I wish a pitcher like Mac would just tell his coach that he has lost it for right now and that he should pitch someone else. You would think Lemo and Fox could see that but apparently not.

Agree but Mac as a competitor always thinks he will get it back. He knew he was in a funk. Coaches should read it better and be prepared for quicker moves. Inexcusable.

[R2Dawg]

They started one of their two aces and we couldn't, that's a huge advantage for game 1.

That is bottom line. Mac tanking left us searching too. What is one of Vandy pitchers tanked, what would happen to them? no team can survive a top started tanking like Mac has at this stage.

[BeardoMSU]

Once again screw the ncaa. Leiter should have been burned Friday one way or another.
Oh and screw the ncaa and I'm sorry NC state too. They knew players were sick Monday per Kendalls story. They should have been disqualified then and Stanford would have moved on as undefeated and forced vandy to beat them twice.

We are setup fine though. If we had won Thursday. Bednar would have pitched tonight. Instead he pitches we'd hopefully.

Yep. Kendall's story does a great job of chronicling everything. If not for their glib ass coaches, we'd still probably be facing Vandy, but sans Leiter.

[HoopsDawg]

That is bottom line. Mac tanking left us searching too. What is one of Vandy pitchers tanked, what would happen to them? no team can survive a top started tanking like Mac has at this stage.

You adapt. You adjust. We have plenty of arms. Use an opener. Use the freshmen, Cade Smith who pitched great in the fall and had been pitching well lately.

[maroonmania]

Ifs and buts. Wonder what happens if we had started Fristoe? I think the last game or two was in Macs head too far. Fristoe has had time to recover mentally. Mac just hadn't.

What if we had started Cade Smith? Brandon Smith? Stone Simmons? KC Hunt? Fristoe? whoever? Could have started anyone else and had a better 1st inning. That we know for sure.

[BeardoMSU]

That is bottom line. Mac tanking left us searching too. What is one of Vandy pitchers tanked, what would happen to them? no team can survive a top started tanking like Mac has at this stage.

I truly believed Mac would find something and bounce back. Color me a dipshit.

I just don't know what tf happened to him. He was, at one point, a great pitcher for us, and one that all of us had confidence in. But holy hell, Omaha must be his kryptonite.

[maroonmania]

I truly believed Mac would find something and bounce back. Color me a dipshit.

I just don't know what tf happened to him. He was, at one point, a great pitcher for us, and one that all of us had confidence in. But holy hell, Omaha must be his kryptonite.

The only decent game he has pitched in the post-season was VCU. He looked like crap in the SEC tournament, against ND and UVA.

[RougeDawg]

What if we had started Cade Smith? Brandon Smith? Stone Simmons? KC Hunt? Fristoe? whoever? Could have started anyone else and had a better 1st inning. That we know for sure.

If Baseball ever had an abortion, it was the bottom of the 1st tonight. Not sure even the pedophile whistler himself could have imagined such a start in his mother's basement. That's about as bad of an inning you will see in a game of such magnitude. I could tell Mac didn't have it after the ump called that borderline pitch a ball to leadoff hitter. The wheels started spinning out of control after that.

[RougeDawg]

It all comes down to our offense, walks, and perfect fielding. We have to get it going tomorrow. I cannot stomach another heartbreaker like 13

Well take your pepto before the game. If we walk a small village in the first again, it's over.

[BayouDawg]

Career ended with a 3.67 era and over 12 k/9

Those stats are nice and all but did you watch him start games? I mean shit son

[msstate7]

Those stats are nice and all but did you watch him start games? I mean shit son

The LSU game was horrible, but here's his stats after that game...
5.2 ip 3 h 1 er 2 bb 11 k
Vs sec teams only (OM, mizzou, and Florida)...
2.2 ip 1 h 0 er 2 bb 2 k

[Really Clark?]

Those stats are nice and all but did you watch him start games? I mean shit son

He was actually 4.41 career ERA with a 5.71 this year, his worse by far and the career number was aided by last year no SEC play.

[Really Clark?]

The LSU game was horrible, but here's his stats after that game...
5.2 ip 3 h 1 er 2 bb 11 k
Vs sec teams only (OM, mizzou, and Florida)...
2.2 ip 1 h 0 er 2 bb 2 k

Yeah but absolutely no pressure in those games. His problem has been dealing with pressure.

[msstate7]

Yeah but absolutely no pressure in those games. His problem has been dealing with pressure.

Maybe so, but you keep finding spots for elite talent. Who knows when it clicks? Maybe it doesn't, but there's been plenty of spots to keep trying him. The dodgers or rays will draft him and show what a talent he is

[msstate7]

Yeah but absolutely no pressure in those games. His problem has been dealing with pressure.

And we just kept running Mac out there after he lost it with a fraction of the talent

[RougeDawg]

And we just kept running Mac out there after he lost it with a fraction of the talent

This is definitely a head scratcher. After he missed that borderline call to leadoff hitter he was mentally done. Everyone watching could see it. The coaches should have. They should've sent someone to the pen and went to talk to him. No way he should have gotten more than 2 batters.

[Lord McBuckethead]

And we just kept running Mac out there after he lost it with a fraction of the talent

Mac will be fine. I hate that he had such a rough 6 weeks. I wish he would not have started today, but he is one of us and I hope he gets redemption down the road. Truth is, we wouldn't be here without him. He played in some big games and is invaluable in the staff. Yeah, he lost games, who hasn't. He'll Rowdey missed a pop up last week. Cost us that game.

[Really Clark?]

Maybe so, but you keep finding spots for elite talent. Who knows when it clicks? Maybe it doesn't, but there's been plenty of spots to keep trying him. The dodgers or rays will draft him and show what a talent he is

They might but it won't be for while and they have the time to bring him along for years in the minors.

[BayouDawg]

The LSU game was horrible, but here's his stats after that game...
5.2 ip 3 h 1 er 2 bb 11 k
Vs sec teams only (OM, mizzou, and Florida)...
2.2 ip 1 h 0 er 2 bb 2 k

How much of that was garbage innings? All of them.
Totally different trying to start a game verses coming in when its already decided.

[msstate7]

How much of that was garbage innings? All of them.
Totally different trying to start a game verses coming in when its already decided.

Fine, we have a stable of dependable guys now, right? No, we don't. We have guys aren't reliable and don't have the raw stuff either. I'm fine with the decision to move on if we had a stable of dependable guys

[BayouDawg]

Fine, we have a stable of dependable guys now, right? No, we don't. We have guys aren't reliable and don't have the raw stuff either. I'm fine with the decision to move on if we had a stable of dependable guys

Straw man. But at least you tried. Adding one more head case to our pen full of head cases does nothing.
He was a junior. Different story if he was a fresh or maybe soph.

[msstate7]

Straw man. But at least you tried. Adding one more head case to our pen full of head cases does nothing.
He was a junior. Different story if he was a fresh or maybe soph.

It's not a straw man bc that's been my point forever. We didn't have enough dependable guys to shelf EC

[HoopsDawg]

It's not a straw man bc that's been my point forever. We didn't have enough dependable guys to shelf EC

We kind of did. Just didn't use them. We found 8 good innings tonight without Bednar, Sims, PJ, Hootie, Stinnett and Simmons.

[BayouDawg]

It's not a straw man bc that's been my point forever. We didn't have enough dependable guys to shelf EC

We will just have to agree to disagree. I got tired of watching him shit all over himself. 3 years is long enough for me to feel comfortable cutting bait