TEXAS GAME THREAD - Madden vs Harding

[BeardoMSU]

Rowdy is about to go H.A.M.

[Rex54]

Nice walk Leggett

[msstate7]

Rowdey, they're in trouble, not us... be patient

[magrooder]

One more hit, that's all I ask

[msstate7]

What a great 0-0 pitch

[Activated Alpha]

All the juju!! Come on boys!!

[KOdawg1]

Nice call whoever it was that kept saying the 8th inning would be key

Hi

[Rex54]

Well..... that was a buzzkill

[BayouDawg]

Rowdy its time to redeem yourself.

[magrooder]

dang

[BeardoMSU]

Damnit Rowdy...

[Dawg2003]

I was in the pit of despair earlier, but now I'm back.

[BeardoMSU]

Bring out Sims. Shut em down. We'll walk it off bot9.

[msstate7]

Who pitching?

[preachermatt83]

Rowdy you goon. You had a chance to be a hero after you misplay earlier.

[BayouDawg]

And his head is still stuck in his anus apparently

[Bulldog1]

Who pitching?

Gotta go w/ Sims

[CadaverDawg]

Terrible Rowdey. At least make em field and throw

[BeardoMSU]

BSmith?!?

[BayouDawg]

Terrible Rowdey. At least make em field and throw

He hasnt been in this game mentally.

[PMDawg]

We desperately need good Smith here

[Rex54]

I really thought Hatcher had stayed in the game. Sad!

[maroonmania]

Terrible Rowdey. At least make em field and throw

His lost fly ball is the only reason we don't have a 2 run lead. That continues to haunt us.

[starkvegasdawg]

Gotta go w/ Sims

No. Rain 5 miles away. You could burn him for nothing.

[BeardoMSU]

Terrible Rowdey. At least make em field and throw

At least we're tied, but that was a gut punch.

And now BS is gonna walk the lead off.....ffs.

[KOdawg1]

Can't put this guy on

[preachermatt83]

Hi

Good call bro

[Bulldog1]

Gotta go w/ Sims

Well I guess not. Smith still in

[BeardoMSU]

His lost fly ball is the only reason we don't have a 2 run lead. That continues to haunt us.

Yep.

[Rex54]

What did we say about leadoff walks...

[Saltydog]

And sure as hell Smith walks the leadoff batter.

[maroonmania]

THe one thing we could NOT do. Walk on 5 pitches.

[msstate7]

That's uh, not good

[Cooterpoot]

We're trying to save pitching more than winning.

[preachermatt83]

We just lost because we walked the leadoff guy. Mark my words. I’m sick of pitchers not having any girado’s other than sims

[Rex54]

You can tell they work on the fundamentals and it shows.

[CadaverDawg]

Damn you Smith. You know you can't do that, man. Not after all we had to do to get back in it. Shittttt

[msstate7]

They had one of the best base stealers in the country on base and bunt? Wtf! Let em steal

[Irondawg]

To be fair Smith looked good last inning and you never know what you are going to get with McLeod

But you just can?t walk the lead off guy in the 9th

[preachermatt83]

We're trying to save pitching more than winning.

No. You ONLY go to sims here with the lead

[BeardoMSU]

Wish the rain could've gotten here before the lead off walk and bunt, lol.

[Activated Alpha]

Come on guys!! Get out of this inning still tied!!

[msstate7]

No. You ONLY go to sims here with the lead

I agree

[Rex54]

Thank you Brandon Smith....

[HoopsDawg]

No. You ONLY go to sims here with the lead

How do we not go to Sims? How, Why?

[BeardoMSU]

No. You ONLY go to sims here with the lead

Disagree. If not for the impending weather, we would've gone to him, especially with the hear of our order up bot9.

[maroonmania]

We had our chance last inning with 2 hitters to take the lead and we failed. We had it all there to lock this one down and didn't do it.

[CadaverDawg]

I wouldn't be opposed to walking this guy if Stinnett doesn't get ahead

[msstate7]

How do we not go to Sims? How, Why?

Bc even if he goes 2-3 scoreless and we don't score, we still might lose and not have him tomorrow

[Cooterpoot]

No. You ONLY go to sims here with the lead

I never said anything about Sims. I mean leaving in Smith to walk the best base stealer other than the Vandy guy in the country. He had no business staring that inning.

[KOdawg1]

Rain is almost there. Would be nice to get out of this inning before it hits. Make their pitchers sit there and think about getting our 2-3-4 hitters out

[CadaverDawg]

This F'ing team man. It's a roller coaster......and I puke on roller coasters

[Lord McBuckethead]

Come on guys!! Get out of this inning still tied!!

Please guys.

[Really Clark?]

How do we not go to Sims? How, Why?

Rain pretty close?

[Lord McBuckethead]

Rain is almost there. Would be nice to get out of this inning before it hits. Make their pitchers sit there and think about getting our 2-3-4 hitters out

Agreed.

[State82]

Out of all the people that could get us beat I would have never, ever thought it would be Rowdey. Ever.

[Cooterpoot]

Pitching for in the rain now. Going to be tough here.

[CadaverDawg]

Out of all the people that could get us beat I would have never, ever thought it would be Rowdey. Ever.

Yeah I know, but his drop and that pop up were such killers

[maroonmania]

Stinnett is one of the wildest guys we have

[R2Dawg]

Out of all the people that could get us beat I would have never, ever thought it would be Rowdey. Ever.

Can't put this all on Rowdey. Players could have made plays all night and didn't. Others popped up too.

[Rex54]

This mother****ing umpire

[KOdawg1]

C'MON BLUE

[BeardoMSU]

These umps continually make me spit out good bourbon.

[msstate7]

He missed a hanger. Whew

[Rex54]

LoTan is so damn good

[R2Dawg]

Double play

[Rex54]

Can we go Sims now? Or call a delay...

[magrooder]

walk walk walk, dang it

[BeardoMSU]

Come on Parker....

[Saltydog]

Does anybody really trust Stinnett here? He's way too wild for my comfort right here.

[maroonmania]

Stinnett is liable to walk another.

[msstate7]

Can we get a hard grounder straight to someone, please

[State82]

Can't put this all on Rowdey. Players could have made plays all night and didn't. Others popped up too.

That is true. But I would have never thought it would be from a routine fly ball.

[CadaverDawg]

Shit. Fight our way back in it, then give it right back. It's just unbearable

[preachermatt83]

We have some of the weak mindest pitchers in history. Throw freaking strikes. Get a freaking double play here

[Rex54]

This is bullshit rain is pouring down

[BeardoMSU]

WTF are we doing? Jesus.

[KOdawg1]

We're about to blow it

[preachermatt83]

Does anybody really trust Stinnett here? He's way too wild for my comfort right here.

Not at all

[Irondawg]

As a whole our bullpen has really let us down today - way too many walks

[msstate7]

We rolled a 7

[maroonmania]

Here is a walk

[Activated Alpha]

Come on guys!! All the juju!!

[KOdawg1]

Ballgame.

[msstate7]

We rolled a 7

Saw it coming

[Rex54]

Good job guys...

[IMissJack]

Sh;t

[Bulldog1]

Great move lemon

[BeardoMSU]

Welp, glad we had the come back just to shit the sheets, lol.

[R2Dawg]

On to tomorrow. We had our chance.

[mparkerfd20]

Dang

[magrooder]

what a waste

[Saltydog]

Take the "L" outta LOVER.

[preachermatt83]

Stinett should be sent home packing

[Irondawg]

That?s what happens when you get behind guys all the time - eventually you have to groove a fastball - there is nobody in our bullpen other than Sims we can trust

[smootness]

Always dumb not to go to Sims there. It's Lemonis' one major blind spot.

[Cooterpoot]

We did everything we could do to lose tonight. Every damn thing.

[HoopsDawg]

How do we not go to Sims? How, Why?

Awful pitching decisions by the coaches tonight. Just awful.

[VandelayIndustries]

Too many walks

[msstate7]

Idk if we rebound from that.

[Percho]

so much for that bull pen

[BeardoMSU]

Go get this scrub.

[R2Dawg]

Should have put Mac in. Terrible.

[KOdawg1]

Leadoff walks man. Mental weakness

[bobtail bob]

Shitty,shitty pitching.

[maroonmania]

On to tomorrow. We had our chance.

Yep, we had our 2 chances to take the lead and couldn't do it.

[Bulldog1]

Awful pitching decisions by the coaches tonight. Just awful.

Yep

[BeardoMSU]

Idk if we rebound from that.

Definitely feel like that could carry into tomorrow.

[Cooterpoot]

Shitty,shitty pitching.

Shitty coaching

[KOdawg1]

Should have put Mac in. Terrible.

Lol no

[Saltydog]

Our elite bullpen blows it.

[HoopsDawg]

Always dumb not to go to Sims there. It's Lemonis' one major blind spot.

Next level dumb. Who knows if he even gets a chance to come in tomorrow in a tie game or us with the lead. Pitch him the 9th and give us a chance to win in the bottom of the 9th.

[Rex54]

NOW they call a delay..... I'm going to bed.

[KOdawg1]

Oh, now they take us off the field. We are MSU

[maroonmania]

I wish we would have gone Cade Smith right there where we went with STinnett

[Irondawg]

Yeah I don?t understand why we didn?t go with Mac at some point - I guess we really thought we were going to have a weather delay.

Almost all the runs in the game for both teams are because of walks.

[mparkerfd20]

Wow. We have an incompetent head man

[Percho]

I hope we have some freshmens pitchers coming.

[Rex54]

Next level dumb. Who knows if he even gets a chance to come in tomorrow in a tie game or us with the lead. Pitch him the 9th and give us a chance to win in the bottom of the 9th.
Damn right

[Lord McBuckethead]

Well, I said we were getting 5. Our pitchers couldn't throw strikes. Gave up 8.

[Activated Alpha]

You knew they would after we gave up the lead

[Saltydog]

You must not have gotten the memo. We have elite arms.

[Maroonthirteen]

Dayum. Complete Bed sharting. Drop fly balls. Walks.

Regroup. On to tomorrow.

[HoopsDawg]

How do we not go to Sims? How, Why?

I continue to out-manage Lemonis from my couch.

[Irondawg]

We did get unlucky with the weather and having our guys throw wet balls but dang we had our chances and just didn?t get it done

[Statecoachingblows**]

Couldn't have rolled that out a few pitches ago? Damn

[smootness]

MacLeod or Cade Smith? No, you have Landon Sims available. Freaking use him.

[Bothrops]

Coach took a gamble here and lost big time. Stinnett is always wild and don't understand the move. Wow

[Dawg2003]

I don't understand that decision. Stinnett has had control issues all year. Why put him in that pressure situation?

[BeardoMSU]

This delay reeeeeaaaaaaally should've happened earlier, but yeah....thanks guys.

[R2Dawg]

I wish we would have gone Cade Smith right there where we went with STinnett

Agree, just don't have that kind of confidence in Stinnett

[maroonmania]

Next level dumb. Who knows if he even gets a chance to come in tomorrow in a tie game or us with the lead. Pitch him the 9th and give us a chance to win in the bottom of the 9th.

Yep, I wish we would have given him one inning to give our 2-3-4 hitters a chance to win it. I would not have pitched him more than 1 though.

[msstate7]

I don't think it was dumb at all to save sims. You were dealing with 2 factors:

1. We only need 1 win to go to championship series and we weren't leading

2. Rain

[BeardoMSU]

Next level dumb. Who knows if he even gets a chance to come in tomorrow in a tie game or us with the lead. Pitch him the 9th and give us a chance to win in the bottom of the 9th.

That's what I said. Garbage.

[Bulldog1]

You must not have gotten the memo. We have elite arms.

Best Bullpen in the country, amirite!!!

[smootness]

Yep, I wish we would have given him one inning to give our 2-3-4 hitters a chance to win it. I would not have pitched him more than 1 though.

Why not? Let him go 2-3 and keep giving our offense a chance to win it.

[RougeDawg]

Whoever the last Jack Sparrow pitcher was, he didn?t have it from pitch one. He was lost after leaving the bullpen. Leaving him in past the 1st batter was asking to be bent over.

[preachermatt83]

The emotional roller coaster will result in an absolute beat down tmr. Se will lose by 6+ tmr

[MetEdDawg]

Guys. Please think. You don't bring Sims in with that level rain coming in. You get him maybe for 1 inning and that's it.

Lemonis knew the rain was coming in. He tried to slow play it as much as he could to get the rain in there before Stinnett has to throw. But if you go 2 hour rain delay, which is what this will be, and you throw Mac or Sims, you aren't bringing them back out and you lose one of your best bullets in the 9th in a tie game.

Stinnett couldn't grip the ball and it completely affected him just now. The whole world knew that 3-2 to Melendez was going to be a FB because he couldn't grip the breaking ball in the rain.

[Jack Lambert]

Made our guy pitch in the rain and when TX took the lead they stop play. That's bullshit.

[BeardoMSU]

Honestly, this game would've been over had Rowdy not sucked with bases loaded. Then Landon would've come in top9 and slammed the door. But here we are.

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

Why did they wait so long to tarp the field? Obviously we were affected by it.

[smootness]

I don't think it was dumb at all to save sims. You were dealing with 2 factors:

1. We only need 1 win to go to championship series and we weren't leading

2. Rain

If it's #1 then you're deciding he's never coming into this game, which seems...odd.

Also, you don't know if you'll be in it or able to use him tomorrow. You know you need him and have a great chance to win tonight. You use him now.

[maroonmania]

Why not? Let him go 2-3 and keep giving our offense a chance to win it.

Because we should have a big advantage tomorrow with Bednar and Sims together. If we don't have Sims to follow Bednar then not so much.

[mparkerfd20]

I'm disgusted. Goodnight. **** you Chris Lemonis with a rusty nail.

[Quaoarsking]

So are we looking at resuming around midnight?

[R2Dawg]

I don't think it was dumb at all to save sims. You were dealing with 2 factors:

1. We only need 1 win to go to championship series and we weren't leading

2. Rain

Sims would have been a risk, if it went extra innings he might pitch too many to be available for tomorrow. We didn't have a lead. If we have a lead then yeah Sims. The way our bats have been likely going extra innings. If you don't have Sims tomorrow then we are in serious trouble.

[MetEdDawg]

So are we looking at resuming around midnight?

I think best case scenario is 12:30

[R2Dawg]

Made our guy pitch in the rain and when TX took the lead they stop play. That's bullshit.

Yeah that was BS.

[preachermatt83]

Wow. We have an incompetent head man

Lol. This is funny.

[maroonmania]

I would almost have rather stayed with Brandon Smith as to go to Stinnett. Stinnett is too wild. Even Cade Smith would have been better if we were determined to save Sims. He had to groove the fastballs because he had already walked the guy before and got behind the next hitter. Pitching from behind all the time spells trouble.

[HoopsDawg]

Why not? Let him go 2-3 and keep giving our offense a chance to win it.

And then he gets 2 days off before the finals AND it saves Bednar. Not pitching Sims cost us Bednar.

[Bothrops]

Always a bridesmaid, never a bride will be inscribed on MSU's tombstone.

[preachermatt83]

Because we should have a big advantage tomorrow with Bednar and Sims together. If we don't have Sims to follow Bednar then not so much.

Don’t you dare bring logic, reason, and common sense.

[MetEdDawg]

I would almost have rather stayed with Brandon Smith as to go to Stinnett. Stinnett is too wild. Even Cade Smith would have been better if we were determined to save Sims. He had to groove the fastballs because he had already walked the guy before and got behind the next hitter. Pitching from behind all the time spells trouble.

Lemonis took a calculated risk to try and waste time to get the rain in and get the game delayed. He missed it by about 3 minutes. And the unfortunate result was a 3 run dinger

[Rex54]

Sims would have been a risk, if it went extra innings he might pitch too many to be available for tomorrow. We didn't have a lead. If we have a lead then yeah Sims. The way our bats have been likely going extra innings. If you don't have Sims tomorrow then we are in serious trouble.
Sims doesn't lose you the game there. He wouldn't win it but he wouldn't lose it. I tell you what though.. Bednar/PJ/Sims wins that game with a 5 run support... See you tomorrow night. Someone else start the damn game thread.

[KOdawg1]

Maybe next year.

Goodnight fellas.

[CadaverDawg]

I just don't understand at least not going with Sims for an inning there.

You have all the momentum, you have Tanner Allen coming up bottom 9....at least go Sims for an inning to give us a chance to walk it off. If we don't, take him out so you have him tomorrow if needed. But when you finally claw back in it, and have a chance at a Title....you don't leave it up to Smith and Stinnett. Lemo overthought that move

[RougeDawg]

I think best case scenario is 12:30

Might be resuming in 2022 if Lemon keeps bringing in clueless pitchers. I?m not sure Jack Sparrow threw any strikes warming up. He needs a clipboard or pirate ship from now on.

[CadaverDawg]

Always a bridesmaid, never a bride will be inscribed on MSU's tombstone.

Yup

[maroonmania]

Don’t you dare bring logic, reason, and common sense.

I still would have had no problem to give Sims one inning just because of what we had coming up in the bottom of the 9th but no more than that.

[Activated Alpha]

Sims doesn't lose you the game there. He wouldn't win it but he wouldn't lose it. I tell you what though.. Bednar/PJ/Sims wins that game with a 5 run support... See you tomorrow night. Someone else start the damn game thread.

Yeah you are totallly banned from starting anymore game threads

[Cooterpoot]

I told y'all bout Foxhall. Jay Powell said the pitch calling was bad too.

[HoopsDawg]

Guys. Please think. You don't bring Sims in with that level rain coming in. You get him maybe for 1 inning and that's it.

Lemonis knew the rain was coming in. He tried to slow play it as much as he could to get the rain in there before Stinnett has to throw. But if you go 2 hour rain delay, which is what this will be, and you throw Mac or Sims, you aren't bringing them back out and you lose one of your best bullets in the 9th in a tie game.

Stinnett couldn't grip the ball and it completely affected him just now. The whole world knew that 3-2 to Melendez was going to be a FB because he couldn't grip the breaking ball in the rain.

Met,1 inning of Sims would have been fine. It was the 9th and we are the home team so there was never going to be a save opportunity. There is no defense for that decision with 2-3-4 hitters due up.

[TopDawg]

If we had brought Sims in at the start of the ninth we would have got 3 outs and been at bat when the rain came.

[maroonmania]

I just don't understand at least not going with Sims for an inning there.

You have all the momentum, you have Tanner Allen coming up bottom 9....at least go Sims for an inning to give us a chance to walk it off. If we don't, take him out so you have him tomorrow if needed. But when you finally claw back in it, and have a chance at a Title....you don't leave it up to Smith and Stinnett. Lemo overthought that move

Whatever we do never seems to work out for us. Our other relievers just don't have the stones to throw strikes. But yea, we should have given him 1 inning.

[maroonmania]

The fact that Kellum Clark and Rowdey don't even put the ball into play was a killer when we had the chance.

[MetEdDawg]

Met,1 inning of Sims would have been fine. It was the 9th and we are the home team so there was never going to be a save opportunity. There is no defense for that decision with 2-3-4 hitters due up.

You aren't guaranteed 1 inning of Sims there with the rain. You might get him for 1 before the rain comes in.

And my guess is Lemonis is concerned throwing Sims potentially back to back days. Hasn't done it all year. That had to be a consideration by Lemonis.

The plan very clearly seems to be protect a Bednar/Sims possibility for an elimination game.

[preachermatt83]

The emotional roller coaster will result in an absolute beat down tmr. Se will lose by 6+ tmr

[CadaverDawg]

You aren't guaranteed 1 inning of Sims there with the rain. You might get him for 1 before the rain comes in.

And my guess is Lemonis is concerned throwing Sims potentially back to back days. Hasn't done it all year. That had to be a consideration by Lemonis.

The plan very clearly seems to be protect a Bednar/Sims possibility for an elimination game.

That's understandable until you battle back and score 3 in the 8th and have them on the ropes with TA leading off. Then plans change. You can't manage everything before the game, sometimes you have to make tough calls on the fly

[HoopsDawg]

You aren't guaranteed 1 inning of Sims there with the rain. You might get him for 1 before the rain comes in.

And my guess is Lemonis is concerned throwing Sims potentially back to back days. Hasn't done it all year. That had to be a consideration by Lemonis.

The plan very clearly seems to be protect a Bednar/Sims possibility for an elimination game.

You don't make decisions based on rain. Again, we just needed 3 outs from him. And your info about back 2 back days is incorrect and may not have been an issue if we had won.

[BayouDawg]

Very disappointed in the bullpen. Hooty gave us about as good of a start as we could have reasonably expected. The bullpen did not compete tonight. It was more of a steerpen than a bullpen tonight

[RougeDawg]

I told y'all bout Foxhall. Jay Powell said the pitch calling was bad too.

Got to hit your spots to set it up, but yes our pitch calling is as predictable as the sun rising in the East in the morning. For some reason we have been successful with spin rate and power arms.

If we don?t have either of those, teams tee off.

[smootness]

Because we should have a big advantage tomorrow with Bednar and Sims together. If we don't have Sims to follow Bednar then not so much.

You had a great shot to win THIS one. You don't know what tomorrow will bring. Dumb to make it harder to win today because tomorrow may be even better.

[Irondawg]

Exactly that Clark and Rowdey did not have good AB there with the game on the line and then Lemonis had a really tough choice there.

I think he knew the rain was coming, Smith had been solid the inning before and decided to keep him out there and either he'd do fine or the rain would come. But then he did the one thing we didn't want and walked their leadoff guy. I do think I might have stuck with him there to face their 3 and 4 but he's not as big a strikeout guy and I think we chased the K's too much there.

Unless we get a miracle finish we're just going to have to regroup, hope the bats are better tomorrow and hope Bednar has his A game again.

[mparkerfd20]

The emotional roller coaster will result in an absolute beat down tmr. Se will lose by 6+ tmr

Agreed. Season is over. See yall next year

[Activated Alpha]

Have they said a start time?

[CadaverDawg]

Gonna be something when they jump out to a 5-0 lead tomorrow and we never get to pitch Sims because we're never in the game. Going to make Lemo wish he had done this different tonight if that happens

[MetEdDawg]

That's understandable until you battle back and score 3 in the 8th and have them on the ropes with TA leading off. Then plans change. You can't manage everything before the game, sometimes you have to make tough calls on the fly

Don't disagree. But you can't win with Sims in that situation and you get him max for 1 inning. If we score and make it 6-5, Sims is 100% in.

I think the play on the fly was for Smith/Stinnett to get through the 9th into the delay and let MacLeod come in after the delay for long relief. Once Smith shit the bed and walked Antico, it became try and get the delay to come before we have to pitch. And it backfired.

I get it. You have to make a plan for all contingencies here. Long and short term. It's not easy. And they made the decision Sims wasn't the play tied in the 9th. I'm not gonna say that's wrong. They know this team better than any of us. If that's what they set out to do, that's their call.

[calidawg]

You had a great shot to win THIS one. You don't know what tomorrow will bring. Dumb to make it harder to win today because tomorrow may be even better.

I agree with this, at first I was anti bringing sims in but the anti sims crowd has this assumption we will be winning late in the game tomorrow. Sims means very little if we are losing. We should have brought him in. But lemo had a very short time to make the decision, why he makes the big bucks.

[msstate7]

You had a great shot to win THIS one. You don't know what tomorrow will bring. Dumb to make it harder to win today because tomorrow may be even better.

Couldn't you use that same logic for starting bednar tonight

[Maroonthirteen]

You can NOT blame Lemonis tonight. Guys have to step up. Throw strikes. Challenge the hitters. Offensively get some hits, score some runs. But for whatever reasons .... it looks like the pressure got to us tonight. Our go to guys didn't get hits in the clutch. Bullpen issuing walks.

Hopefully the nerves are claimed if we take a L. Tomorrow is a new day. State has beat these guys twice. They can win a third game.

[maroonmania]

I know its a dead horse but I still can't get over Rowdey losing that fly ball. I knew that would continue to haunt us. Cost us 2 runs that inning. Without that we have the lead and Sims can finish it.

[calidawg]

Yes

[starkvegasdawg]

Earliest game will restart is 12:15 per Rosebowl.

[smootness]

Couldn't you use that same logic for starting bednar tonight

Bednar starts the game at 0-0 no matter what. Our chances largely ride on how well he pitches. Not the case with Sims, we have to get it to Sims.

And my main argument for holding Bednar was never that he didn't give us a better chance to win Friday, it was that I liked our chances with Harding and if you win Friday, you get to pitch Bednar completely rested in game 1 Monday.

And that's exactly where we still had a very good chance to be if we go Sims there.

[KOdawg1]

I know its a dead horse but I still can't get over Rowdey losing that fly ball. I knew that would continue to haunt us. Cost us 2 runs that inning. Without that we have the lead and Sims can finish it.

Not only that, but he choked with the bases loaded and left them off the hook.

Tough night for Rowdey. He needs to make up for it tomorrow

[maroonmania]

Not only that, but he choked with the bases loaded and left them off the hook.

Tough night for Rowdey. He needs to make up for it tomorrow

Even if Lemonis didn't start Sims in the 9th why not bring him in to try and get 2 outs when TX had the man at 2nd?

[BayouDawg]

Gonna be something when they jump out to a 5-0 lead tomorrow and we never get to pitch Sims because we're never in the game. Going to make Lemo wish he had done this different tonight if that happens

Ive said this all year. I have never seen a staff so reluctant to go to its best arm. Its baffling

[maroonmania]

OK, I'm going to bed. Give it another shot tomorrow night.

[msstate7]

Bednar starts the game at 0-0 no matter what. Our chances largely ride on how well he pitches. Not the case with Sims, we have to get it to Sims.

And my main argument for holding Bednar was never that he didn't give us a better chance to win Friday, it was that I liked our chances with Harding and if you win Friday, you get to pitch Bednar completely rested in game 1 Monday.

And that's exactly where we still had a very good chance to be if we go Sims there.

Could be. Maybe sims gets us thru the 9th and we see the rain delay, but don't score. Then we potentially have a deciding game tomorrow with no sims. I just don't think the decision was as clear cut as you

[Activated Alpha]

Well I am sending our boys all the juju still and hoping we can steal the win after the delay. Going to bed.

[BulldogBear]

I just caught up on DVR.

So I guess Sims quit and left the team sometime in the last hour. Or perhaps he had a sudden heart attack. God rest his soul. His poor mother.

[Irondawg]

Yeah, they are really protective of Sims arm this year for whatever reason. Maybe they know something we don't.

But we just haven't had anyone else step up in the pen lately. The problem was the leadoff walk, at least make him get a hit. That changed the whole dynamic right off the bat.

Granted, the only reason we're even discussing any of this is because they walked a bunch of guys in the 8th. We made them pay by at least tying it and but couldn't finish the job. Then we gifted it right back and they took advantage.

[CadaverDawg]

We've walked 9 guys tonight. 6 of the 8 have scored. The 9th is on first.

[Dawgology]

Lemonis approached this game prepared to play tomorrow. Which is why we will be playing tomorrow.

[BulldogBear]

Yeah, they are really protective of Sims arm this year for whatever reason. Maybe they know something we don't.

But we just haven't had anyone else step up in the pen lately. The problem was the leadoff walk, at least make him get a hit. That changed the whole dynamic right off the bat.

Granted, the only reason we're even discussing any of this is because they walked a bunch of guys in the 8th. We made them pay by at least tying it and but couldn't finish the job. Then we gifted it right back and they took advantage.

In a tie game...9th inning...you just cannot under any circumstances give the first 2 guys a free base. That's just bending over and saying "Give it to me Bevo."

[SilentSteel16]

I think Lem was banking on the wx delay. That was why he stalled when he did. Can’t blame him for not running Sims out in 9th, I believe if wx was not going to be an issue you would have seen him pitch. Still believe firmly along with the rest of all baseball managers and try to steal a win against TX ace. The horse was beat to death and I am not arguing with idiots about it. It was absolutely the right call to go Hootie who actually did a decent job, was left in too long though. Our hitters not showing up in middle innings will define this team. Hail State and finish the job tomorrow.

[CadaverDawg]

Lemonis approached this game prepared to play tomorrow. Which is why we will be playing tomorrow.

You're right

[Activated Alpha]

If we hit tomorrow like we hit tonight, we will go home. No questions about it

[HoopsDawg]

Even if Lemonis didn't start Sims in the 9th why not bring him in to try and get 2 outs when TX had the man at 2nd?

No freaking idea. Awful is all I can say. May have cost us a natty.

[SilentSteel16]

I am always for winning today but if you can set it up to be absolutely sitting pitching wise perfectly for a three game set and you have a game to play with, YOU DO IT. Any tournament ball coach,player or hell even umpire know this. You can Monday morning QB it all you want, it is the way it is. The story was too many walks and our hitters chasing crap. Simple as that. Also, not catching a pop up that turns into lead off double doesn’t help either.

[MetEdDawg]

Lemonis approached this game prepared to play tomorrow. Which is why we will be playing tomorrow.

I think the biggest thing that plays to this is him leaving Hootie in for the 3rd time through the lineup.

And I get it. It's tough to pull the kid. He's up there on the mound barking saying let's f***ing roll it coach let me f***ing roll it. You want to believe in the kid and give him a shot. He's done well this postseason.

But if it was a do or die game, Tullar comes in there 100% to face the two lefties. But he left Hootie in knowing if everything went to hell we still had tomorrow.

[Dawgology]

Once we saw that Vandy won it should have been Bednar gets the start and you close with Sims. Rocker was burnt today and Lieter will be burned tomorrow. It would be bullpen games for the first couple games in the NC for both teams. Instead we will burn Bed tomorrow and he won?t throw a pitch in the NC.

[chef dixon]

Fellas, keep enjoying this ride. I still think we are watching something special

[ImissCityBagel]

I don't know anything, but our vibe doesn't look like we are there to dominate.

[Rex54]

Once we saw that Vandy won it should have been Bednar gets the start and you close with Sims. Rocker was burnt today and Lieter will be burned tomorrow. It would be bullpen games for the first couple games in the NC for both teams. Instead we will burn Bed tomorrow and he won?t throw a pitch in the NC.
Ding ding ding

[Rex54]

You can NOT blame Lemonis tonight.

Wanna bet?

[BayouDawg]

Fellas, keep enjoying this ride. I still think we are watching something special

This ride is not fun at the moment. Hopefully it gets back to the fun part soon.

[Bothrops]

Lemonis approached this game prepared to play tomorrow. Which is why we will be playing tomorrow.

And invariably start packing our bags for home Sunday morning.

[SilentSteel16]

So Rex, you like hypotheticals. What if we threw Bendar tonight and lost? Now you get Bednar on a three day rest period IF you are able to win on Saturday. Bednar was lights out in his last start, but you are fooling yourself if you think that is his norm. So yes, you put him in the best position that you can to succeed. Along with not messing with his future, considering you get 1 more solid outing out of him regardless if he pitches tonight, Saturday or next week. By solid I am saying 100 percent, or on full body acclimated rest. Again it is professionally irresponsible of Lem to throw him outside of normal body rest when you do not have to. Win or go home situations are different, BUT we were not in that situation. Lem made assurances to the families of these players, to protect them. If he breaks that, it trickles down to the recruits. And if you don’t think those high velo guys and blue chippers don’t talk,you are delusional.

[SilentSteel16]

It is unreal how many fair weather fans we have..this team has done a phenomenal job this year, regardless of our outcome. Baseball is one of the hardest sports to play, anyone can beat anyone on any given day. If you can’t behind this team and support them then go back to Oxford. This team can beat anyone and have shown it. Also, they have shown they can give away game as well, but agin that is BASEBALL.

[Rex54]

So Rex, you like hypotheticals. What if we threw Bendar tonight and lost? .
Texas had to win both games to advance right? Right? So wouldn't you think they would have saved Madden once they knew Bednar wasn't starting?

I mean if they are going to face Bednar SURELY the best chance of beating him would be with Ty Madden.... they HAVE to win both games so it's not like they were forced to throw him today on 4 days rest. The same 4 days as Bednar. They could have saved him which according to you would mean he would be even better with the 5th rest day which greatly increases their chances of beating Bednar, which they MUST DO.

The reason they threw Madden tonight... and hear me out... is because....... they want to use him in the Finals to win a National Championship

[CadaverDawg]

It is unreal how many fair weather fans we have..this team has done a phenomenal job this year, regardless of our outcome. Baseball is one of the hardest sports to play, anyone can beat anyone on any given day. If you can’t behind this team and support them then go back to Oxford. This team can beat anyone and have shown it. Also, they have shown they can give away game as well, but agin that is BASEBALL.

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[ImissCityBagel]

Everything has lined up for us this year. If we don't take one home.....then it is time to seriously reevaluate our school as a whole.

[Dawgology]

And invariably start packing our bags for home Sunday morning.

No. But we will use Bednar tomorrow and probably win. But then Bednar will probably not be available for the NC.

[SilentSteel16]

Wow, all I can say. Madden pitched tonight because they had to have tonight to have a tomorrow. Your argument and point is moot. Not the same position at all. If you can’t see that then you have blinded yourself.

[SilentSteel16]

And yes Cadaver some of the comments on here about this team sucks and Lem sucks points directly to fair weather fans. Love them when they are on but hate on them when they are off.

[Bothrops]

Everything has lined up for us this year. If we don't take one home.....then it is time to seriously time to reevaluate our school as a whole.

I'd actually rather end it here than lose in the finals. I think that would have irreparable damage to my interest going forward if I had to endure that again and continue to act like I'm hopeful for the future.

[CadaverDawg]

And yes Cadaver some of the comments on here about this team sucks and Lem sucks points directly to fair weather fans. Love them when they are on but hate on them when they are off.

Telling our passionate fans "go back to Oxford" bc they are frustrated or angry during a game that could send us to the Title series? C'mon man. If you're that sensitive maybe game threads aren't for you. "Fair weather" fans don't post on a MSU message board as much as these posters do all year. No need for the polite police to show up when we just gave up a 3 run bomb to potentially kill our chances at a Natty.

[Irondawg]

I won't disagree with starting Harding and he honestly gave us a solid start. Our bullpen looking like a 9-year old team walking every other guys was the main problem tonight.

And the only reason we got back into it was the walks they gave up in the 8th. This entire game was determined on walks and one fluke fly ball to the OF

[Bothrops]

And yes Cadaver some of the comments on here about this team sucks and Lem sucks points directly to fair weather fans. Love them when they are on but hate on them when they are off.

MSU has been playing sports for 130+ years and have nothing to show for it. I don't know if I would call that hard to achieve, but for ****s sake, it took a long time for our fans to get sick of this shit.

[Schultzy]

Well we have Bednar and Sims tomorrow to get to the finals, I’dve taken that to start the season.

[Schultzy]

LFG!

[SilentSteel16]

Just love how some posters on here have traditionally always been negative. You can be butt hurt over a grooved fastball that got smoked all you want. Yes it sucks, even if we lose we are in a much batter position arms wise than TX. If we lose tonight we are not done. When people post “get bags ready for travel on Sunday” that kind of crap needs to change. We have to lose 2x and we have our best pitchers actually fully rested, Sims is hit or Miss because who really knows how much he warmed up? As yes the go back to Oxford is exactly meant for some people because that is exactly how Ole Miss fans respond. Or do like LSU fans, and blame someone else. They can never say they got beat, they always give the game away or were cheated. If you were offended by my BACK TO OXFORD comment then maybe it did hit a little to close to home.

[SilentSteel16]

I am a 4th generation alumni of MSU, I am well aware of our sports prowess

[Cloak]

Are we home or away tomorrow?

[CadaverDawg]

Just love how some posters on here have traditionally always been negative. You can be butt hurt over a grooved fastball that got smoked all you want. Yes it sucks, even if we lose we are in a much batter position arms wise than TX. If we lose tonight we are not done. When people post “get bags ready for travel on Sunday” that kind of crap needs to change. We have to lose 2x and we have our best pitchers actually fully rested, Sims is hit or Miss because who really knows how much he warmed up? As yes the go back to Oxford is exactly meant for some people because that is exactly how Ole Miss fans respond. Or do like LSU fans, and blame someone else. They can never say they got beat, they always give the game away or were cheated. If you were offended by my BACK TO OXFORD comment then maybe it did hit a little to close to home.

I repeat

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[BayouDawg]

Telling our passionate fans "go back to Oxford" bc they are frustrated or angry during a game that could send us to the Title series? C'mon man. If you're that sensitive maybe game threads aren't for you. "Fair weather" fans don't post on a MSU message board as much as these posters do all year. No need for the polite police to show up when we just gave up a 3 run bomb to potentially kill our chances at a Natty.

But dont you see as long as the players had fun thats all that matters lol

Fans airing out their frustration on a message board does not actually mean they want all the coaches fired. Smdh

[CadaverDawg]

Game to resume at 1:05 am

[ScoobaDawg]

It is unreal how many fair weather fans we have..this team has done a phenomenal job this year, regardless of our outcome. Baseball is one of the hardest sports to play, anyone can beat anyone on any given day. If you can?t behind this team and support them then go back to Oxford. This team can beat anyone and have shown it. Also, they have shown they can give away game as well, but agin that is BASEBALL.

Exactly. it's 12:50 and I bet half our fans have gone to bed saying doom and gloom this season is over.
A big fat F*ck you up the ass tonight. will we win tonight. I don't know. but our guys won't stop fighting.

good morning when you wake up you losers. We are gonna wine this. or tomorrow. and you can suck sh*t for bashing our couch and players if you did.

[CadaverDawg]

Exactly. it's 12:50 and I bet half our fans have gone to bed saying doom and gloom this season is over.
A big fat F*ck you up the ass tonight. will we win tonight. I don't know. but our guys won't stop fighting.

good morning when you wake up you losers. We are gonna wine this. or tomorrow. and you can suck sh*t for bashing our couch and players if you did.

It's late Scooba, but people are sleeping on their "couch", they were bashing the "coach".*

[ScoobaDawg]

Cade in to finish this. hold em

[Cowbell]

I question our pitching decisions tonight like everyone else, but I see know reason for us to bash anyone. We have done more with less so many times this year. I'm happy we have made it this far and I thank lemonis for that. Coaches do make mistakes at times - nobody is perfect - but truth is we have all questioned Lemonis at times this year and it turns out he was actually right.

[ScoobaDawg]

It's late Scooba, but people are sleeping on their "couch", they were bashing the "coach".*

I'm tired of this sh*t. Lemon is one of the best if not the best baseball coach we have ever had. We win today with bednar and will play for a nc.
anyone who can't behind that can screw off.

[CadaverDawg]

I'm tired of this sh*t. Lemon is one of the best if not the best baseball coach we have ever had. We win today with bednar and will play for a nc.
anyone who can't behind that can screw off.

Lighten up Francis, I agree with you.

[Activated Alpha]

Even after a rain delay we still cannot pitch strikes

[ScoobaDawg]

cade walks hid first guy. not good

[HaggardDawg]

I can not stand a f**king walk?

[CadaverDawg]

Another walk, Jesus

[ScoobaDawg]

Lighten up Francis, I agree with you.

You know I like ya bud... we good.

[HaggardDawg]

Can?t throw a 17n strike to save our lives

[Activated Alpha]

Can we seriously find a pitcher that can throw damn strikes??

[ScoobaDawg]

damnit. cade cant find the zone. 2 walks.

[CadaverDawg]

These walks, I just cant

[Activated Alpha]

Well bases loaded on two walks while only throwing two strikes. Yikes guys. Yikes

[ScoobaDawg]

holy shit. WTF the fuk. nc state is SCREWED. just out. vandy to finals,.

[ScoobaDawg]

biggest f*ck job ever

[HoopsDawg]

Wow. Vandy advances and saves Leiter.

[CadaverDawg]

NC State forfeits due to Covid...Vandy in the title with Leiter for game 1. Unbelievable