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Todd4State
05-26-2021, 04:09 PM
And I don't like that. Saw it against Mizzou and you saw it today.

If we play like we did today against Tennessee I hope MSU refunds any fans that bought SEC baseball Tournament tickets. Complete horseshit effort from everyone on the team and the coaches. Worst performance since USM 2018. And that was because our coach was chasing tail. What's Lemonis's excuse?

And then the player's throwing "That's baseball" at us? Bullshit. That's awful baseball. What a **** you to the fanbase.

Rayburn8
05-26-2021, 04:25 PM
that's baseball

Rex54
05-26-2021, 04:36 PM
Good grief.

Cooterpoot
05-26-2021, 05:19 PM
I don't think this is a great team and I think our staff chose to mail in that game today. If we don't show up tomorrow (I assume our starters go now) then I fully expect to fall short of Omaha. I don't like the fact Lemonis teams have gotten run ruled both tournaments he's coached. That's a bad look. It's one thing to lose. It's another to fail to compete or even look like you give a crap. We should've rested guys like Logan Tanner if we were going to mail it in.

basedog
05-26-2021, 05:25 PM
I don't think this is a great team and I think our staff chose to mail in that game today. If we don't show up tomorrow (I assume our starters go now) then I fully expect to fall short of Omaha. I don't like the fact Lemonis teams have gotten run ruled both tournaments he's coached. That's a bad look. It's one thing to lose. It's another to fail to compete or even look like you give a crap. We should've rested guys like Logan Tanner if we were going to mail it in.

I’m confused by your post. You are on record saying it doesn’t matter but yet u are complaining regardless how we lost?

So why do u care? I suppose tomorrow doesn’t matter either for you.

basedog
05-26-2021, 05:29 PM
Btw Todd, I think it’s just this team and they are what they are. We are young overall, especially pitchers. Hopefully they learn and we get some help going into next year.
Honestly I’m surprised we have won 40 games, we are iffy and up and down at times for sure. Today we were bad in all phases of the game.

Homedawg
05-26-2021, 05:31 PM
This thread is full of over the top and crazy. Go to bed the sun will come up. Good LOrd

The Federalist Engineer
05-26-2021, 05:33 PM
During the Mizzou series we learned something. At this point, it is what it is. My grief is over.

That said - Florida shelled two very competent pitchers. That's where they got the runs. With better defense, we play 9 innings but still lose, all other things being equal. Also the Barco kid is a big time prospect, 1st round pick type player. He was the #14 national prospect out of HS. We were not shut out by a Samford walkon.

I was one that was hyping B Smith as the secret weapon, so I was very wrong. RPI is #8. So we are hanging to a national seed by a small margin. We might be playing at the Notre Dame super regional with barking dogs and lawn mowers in the background. No worries, we win that series in a Sweep.

HoopsDawg
05-26-2021, 05:34 PM
Btw Todd, I think it’s just this team and they are what they are. We are young overall, especially pitchers. Hopefully they learn and we get some help going into next year.
Honestly I’m surprised we have won 40 games, we are iffy and up and down at times for sure. Today we were bad in all phases of the game.

It is kind of remarkable we've won 40.

HoopsDawg
05-26-2021, 05:35 PM
During the Mizzou series we learned something. At this point, it is what it is. My grief is over.

That said - Florida shelled two very competent pitchers. That's where they got the runs. With better defense, we play 9 innings but still lose, all other things being equal. Also the Barco kid is a big time prospect, 1st round pick type player. He was the #14 national prospect out of HS. We were not shut out by a Samford walkon.

I was one that was hyping B Smith as the secret weapon, so I was very wrong. RPI is #8. So we are hanging to a national seed by a small margin. We might be playing at the Notre Dame super regional with barking dogs and lawn mowers in the background. No worries, we win that series in a Sweep.

Brandon Smith had good stuff today. UF did a great job and we made coaching and fielding mistakes in the first 2 innings and things got out of hand. Then Brandon started leaving it over the plate in the 3rd.

Homedawg
05-26-2021, 05:36 PM
During the Mizzou series we learned something. At this point, it is what it is. My grief is over.

That said - Florida shelled two very competent pitchers. That's where they got the runs. With better defense, we play 9 innings but still lose, all other things being equal. Also the Barco kid is a big time prospect, 1st round pick type player. He was the #14 national prospect out of HS. We were not shut out by a Samford walkon.

I was one that was hyping B Smith as the secret weapon, so I was very wrong. RPI is #8. So we are hanging to a national seed by a small margin. We might be playing at the Notre Dame super regional with barking dogs and lawn mowers in the background. No worries, we win that series in a Sweep.

Our rpi is 7. Remove Fairfield. Tenn is 10. So make that of what ya will.

BrunswickDawg
05-26-2021, 05:38 PM
Meaningless game at 9:30 in damn morning. I'm sorry, I'm not going to judge anything with a ridiculous start time like that. There are 3 suitable stadiums in Birmingham - they could avoid crap like this with a little effort on the part of the SEC. Play 2 at Rickwood and 2 in the Met, and run a shuttle bus for the RV people who bitch about it. They are 18 miles apart - there is no reason to not do this.

Cooterpoot
05-26-2021, 05:51 PM
I’m confused by your post. You are on record saying it doesn’t matter but yet u are complaining regardless how we lost?

So why do u care? I suppose tomorrow doesn’t matter either for you.

The loss doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. The way we didn't give a shit does matter. Seen too much of that lately.

HoopsDawg
05-26-2021, 05:51 PM
Meaningless game at 9:30 in damn morning. I'm sorry, I'm not going to judge anything with a ridiculous start time like that. There are 3 suitable stadiums in Birmingham - they could avoid crap like this with a little effort on the part of the SEC. Play 2 at Rickwood and 2 in the Met, and run a shuttle bus for the RV people who bitch about it. They are 18 miles apart - there is no reason to not do this.

I hope it's meaningless. 0-2 could cost us a national seed.

basedog
05-26-2021, 06:00 PM
The loss doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. The way we didn't give a shit does matter. Seen too much of that lately.

It was a really bad showing today, hopefully they come out on top tomorrow. Btw don't think IF the guys weren't in B'Ham but in Vegas they would be in Church tonight. LOL!

The Federalist Engineer
05-26-2021, 06:05 PM
Our rpi is 7. Remove Fairfield. Tenn is 10. So make that of what ya will.

So that Tennessee game just potentially became a National Seed playoff. Especially if Notre Dame do well in their conference tournament.

Homedawg
05-26-2021, 06:16 PM
So that Tennessee game just potentially became a National Seed playoff. Especially if Notre Dame do well in their conference tournament.

Guess between that and the big 12 tourney would seemingly have a factor. All 3 Texas schools are ahead of us now. Rpi wise that is. That could swing tomorrow.

Barkman Turner Overdrive
05-26-2021, 06:17 PM
Worst performance since USM 2018. And that was because our coach was chasing tail. What's Lemonis's excuse?.

Birmingham has great restaurants?

TNDawg35
05-26-2021, 06:18 PM
I hope it's meaningless. 0-2 could cost us a national seed.

No it won’t. We are already locked in and so is Tenn...

TNDawg35
05-26-2021, 06:19 PM
I have never seen grown men freak out so bad. We were all saying no one gave a shit about the tourney and some even said let the starters sit and ply younger guys. Then we mail it in and everyone freaks out saying we don’t give a shit and Lemonis is back to sucking!! Good lord people. Chill out! Make up your damn mind!!

Homedawg
05-26-2021, 06:22 PM
I have never seen grown men freak out so bad. We were all saying no one gave a shit about the tourney and some even said let the starters sit and ply younger guys. Then we mail it in and everyone freaks out saying we don’t give a shit and Lemonis is back to sucking!! Good lord people. Chill out! Make up your damn mind!!

The thread title should be changed to our some of our fans are entitled all the time.

Captain Falcon
05-26-2021, 06:34 PM
May I ask how today was an example of us playing entitled? I absolutely think there was some of that in the Mizzou series, we were bad defensively and struggled badly with pitch command. I think we just assumed that all we had to do was throw it in the general direction of the plate and Mizzou would get themselves out. But I don't really know how today was an example of any kind of entitlement. We experimented with our starting pitching and it didn't work, they just simply hit him hard. Meanwhile Florida's best starter had a good day himself. Neither of those things had anything to do with us playing entitled or not caring enough.

I think fans have a tendency to assume that a blowout loss means we didn't even try. That's lazy logic sometimes and I don't really think it's the case here, I think we just took one on the chin as everybody does on occasion, even the elite teams.

They took it to us early and we were staring down a 9-1 deficit in game one of a double elimination tournament. Them jumping out to that lead didn't have anything to do with us playing entitled, they just beat around a struggling pitcher. At a certain point there's a little bit of self preservation required. It's why you throw Cerantola and Hunt today and not Harding or Sims.

FriarsPoint
05-26-2021, 07:12 PM
May I ask how today was an example of us playing entitled? I absolutely think there was some of that in the Mizzou series, we were bad defensively and struggled badly with pitch command. I think we just assumed that all we had to do was throw it in the general direction of the plate and Mizzou would get themselves out. But I don't really know how today was an example of any kind of entitlement. We experimented with our starting pitching and it didn't work, they just simply hit him hard. Meanwhile Florida's best starter had a good day himself. Neither of those things had anything to do with us playing entitled or not caring enough.

I think fans have a tendency to assume that a blowout loss means we didn't even try. That's lazy logic sometimes and I don't really think it's the case here, I think we just took one on the chin as everybody does on occasion, even the elite teams.

They took it to us early and we were staring down a 9-1 deficit in game one of a double elimination tournament. Them jumping out to that lead didn't have anything to do with us playing entitled, they just beat around a struggling pitcher. At a certain point there's a little bit of self preservation required. It's why you throw Cerantola and Hunt today and not Harding or Sims.

This is where I am. If you?re going to get your ass kicked, go all in.

My only concern is the selection committee looking for any excuse to knock us out of the top 8. They?ve been known to be unfriendly to the sec at times. Other than that, win the whole thing. We?ve got plenty of tournament titles.

SailingDawg
05-26-2021, 08:09 PM
A younger fan (younger than me) commented today that he's heard the players don't like Lemonis, that he is so hard on them he takes the fun out of the game.

Rex54
05-26-2021, 08:43 PM
A younger fan (younger than me) commented today that he's heard the players don't like Lemonis, that he is so hard on them he takes the fun out of the game.

That's retarded.

maroonmania
05-26-2021, 09:12 PM
Btw Todd, I think it?s just this team and they are what they are. We are young overall, especially pitchers. Hopefully they learn and we get some help going into next year.
Honestly I?m surprised we have won 40 games, we are iffy and up and down at times for sure. Today we were bad in all phases of the game.

I agree. This team is a roller coaster and get focused only when they feel like they have to. I really feel like we only swept Bama because the players probably heard it all week from fans and students about how embarrassing their performance was against Mizzou. THEN, after feeling good about themselves after the Bama sweep, they come out unmotivated again today. This team seems very immature to me. Probably just didn't realize how good we had it when Mangum was the leader of the team. He wouldn't have put up with this nonsense.

Homedawg
05-26-2021, 09:27 PM
A younger fan (younger than me) commented today that he's heard the players don't like Lemonis, that he is so hard on them he takes the fun out of the game.
Meh. Saban is a blast to play for. ... one day they will be glad he was tough on them. He allows the dugout to cut up. Whatever.

Captain Falcon
05-26-2021, 09:59 PM
I agree. This team is a roller coaster and get focused only when they feel like they have to. I really feel like we only swept Bama because the players probably heard it all week from fans and students about how embarrassing their performance was against Mizzou. THEN, after feeling good about themselves after the Bama sweep, they come out unmotivated again today. This team seems very immature to me. Probably just didn't realize how good we had it when Mangum was the leader of the team. He wouldn't have put up with this nonsense.

We got run ruled in Hoover twice when Mangum was on the roster.

basedog
05-26-2021, 10:07 PM
I agree. This team is a roller coaster and get focused only when they feel like they have to. I really feel like we only swept Bama because the players probably heard it all week from fans and students about how embarrassing their performance was against Mizzou. THEN, after feeling good about themselves after the Bama sweep, they come out unmotivated again today. This team seems very immature to me. Probably just didn't realize how good we had it when Mangum was the leader of the team. He wouldn't have put up with this nonsense.

Good take and yes seems like an immature team. Only TA and Rowdy been starters excluding a shorten season last year.

Commercecomet24
05-26-2021, 10:09 PM
This thread is full of over the top and crazy. Go to bed the sun will come up. Good LOrd

This.

Cooterpoot
05-26-2021, 10:11 PM
So that Tennessee game just potentially became a National Seed playoff. Especially if Notre Dame do well in their conference tournament.

Nope

maroonmania
05-26-2021, 10:51 PM
We got run ruled in Hoover twice when Mangum was on the roster.

By a lower seeded team? But this doesn't appear to be something relegated to just the SEC tourney anyway.

Rex54
05-26-2021, 10:55 PM
By a lower seeded team? But this doesn't appear to be something relegated to just the SEC tourney anyway.

We. Are. A. National. Seed.

Schultzy
05-26-2021, 11:01 PM
Nobody gives a shit about conference tournaments in any sport anymore.

The season begins in the regionals.

Bothrops
05-26-2021, 11:51 PM
We're probably the 6th or 7th best team in the SEC truth be known. Yeah...6th or 7th. We could still end up in Omaha because it's baseball, but won't need many uniforms.

Captain Falcon
05-27-2021, 12:01 AM
By a lower seeded team? But this doesn't appear to be something relegated to just the SEC tourney anyway.

Both times by a lower seeded team, including once when we were the 1 seed in the tournament.

FriarsPoint
05-27-2021, 12:02 AM
We're probably the 6th or 7th best team in the SEC truth be known. Yeah...6th or 7th. We could still end up in Omaha because it's baseball, but won't need many uniforms.

I?ve got to ask. Who are you putting in front of us? Being as non objective as I can, I only come up with 4.

Commercecomet24
05-27-2021, 12:05 AM
I?ve got to ask. Who are you putting in front of us? Being as non objective as I can, I only come up with 4.

This, we've proved over the course of a full sec season we're one of the top 3-4 teams .

Todd4State
05-27-2021, 12:43 AM
May I ask how today was an example of us playing entitled? I absolutely think there was some of that in the Mizzou series, we were bad defensively and struggled badly with pitch command. I think we just assumed that all we had to do was throw it in the general direction of the plate and Mizzou would get themselves out. But I don't really know how today was an example of any kind of entitlement. We experimented with our starting pitching and it didn't work, they just simply hit him hard. Meanwhile Florida's best starter had a good day himself. Neither of those things had anything to do with us playing entitled or not caring enough.

I think fans have a tendency to assume that a blowout loss means we didn't even try. That's lazy logic sometimes and I don't really think it's the case here, I think we just took one on the chin as everybody does on occasion, even the elite teams.

They took it to us early and we were staring down a 9-1 deficit in game one of a double elimination tournament. Them jumping out to that lead didn't have anything to do with us playing entitled, they just beat around a struggling pitcher. At a certain point there's a little bit of self preservation required. It's why you throw Cerantola and Hunt today and not Harding or Sims.

It just seemed like they didn't care and just didn't play the game with respect. Just acted like "Oh, well we're a National Seed so we're going to save everyone for the Regionals". We had guys not running out balls a couple of times, we didn't attack the strike zone, Leggett looked bad defensively, and then our team leader just goes with the "that's baseball" line. Which is code for "It's all about luck anyway so who gives a shit so we can feel better about ourselves."

It was bad enough that Lemonis addressed it in the postgame press conference about how "we really want to be here and want to win". And I don't doubt him. And I also wouldn't be surprised if he tore some of our players new assholes either after the game.

And you're right- same as Mizzou. I think some players on our team may have bought into the "well the SEC Tournament doesn't matter" line and "we don't want to burn up our pitching" because that "happened" when we won in 2012. And I don't like the SEC Tournament- but at the same time since they're keeping score we need to at least show up.

KentuckyDawg13
05-27-2021, 06:52 AM
https://youtu.be/fQaavQNGsMY

Bothrops
05-27-2021, 12:59 PM
I?ve got to ask. Who are you putting in front of us? Being as non objective as I can, I only come up with 4.

Arkansas, Vandy, OM, Tennessee, Florida. We'd lose a series against any of those right now.