PDA

View Full Version : Here is why we win the Egg Bowl



1998Dawg
11-12-2013, 01:41 PM
I have been thinking lately on how we win the egg bowl. Now first, let me first breakdown the games before:

We lose to Bama (I've changed my projection), I think we give them probably the toughest game they've had possibly all year but we run out of gas.

We then DESTROY Arkansas (I have a connection in vegas that says we'll be big favorites in that game) - and yes, the Bears will take notice.

Now for TSUN's side:

They do beat Troy rather handily IMO.

BUT, Mizzou will absolutely slap them around. Something like 56-28.

Enter StarkVegas Thanksgiving day, we'll have 5 wins and they'll have 7 wins. Now even up to this point, both teams schedules are about equal in strength. Throw out the LSU game and we have played all the other common opponents as well, or better than the Bears.

Sorry got a lot on my mind. Thoughts?

RState
11-12-2013, 01:53 PM
I wouldve told you last week that we wouldnt play Bama that close, but after we came just short of beating aTm I think we'll give em a good game but not win.

As for the Egg Bowl those cocky brother truckers think they already won the damn thing and their in for a rude awakining when they come into DWS (especially if we have that video of Henderson smoking dope on the video board like somebody suggested in the other thread!)

Sam&DeansDawg
11-12-2013, 02:33 PM
Here's my non-homer post.

Bama goes in and doesn't pull out and we crawl back to the sidelines.
OM beats Troy easily bc Troy is Troy.
Mizzou goes into Oxford and scores a TD before the game is over leaving the bears with no hope in a win.
OM kicked out butts last year and it was horrible leaving the game. I think this year we win by a field goal and knock their raybans off thier faces and thier colehans off thier feet.

stxdawg
11-12-2013, 06:32 PM
4-1. That is our record against the bears at home in the last 10 years. That is all I need to know. Throw in Dak, Perkins, Robinson, Chris, and a number of other key players and you should start to feel good about this year's Egg Bowl.

ShotgunDawg
11-12-2013, 06:53 PM
I posted this in another thread, but it got lost:

I just looked this up: Do you realize that OM hasn't won a game on grass since 2008 against LSU?

Go look it up. The only questionable game is that they beat Vanderbilt in Nashville in 2009, and I'm not sure if Vandy was playing on grass or turf at that point. Either way, it's mind boggling.

So in order to beat us, they will have to overcome a little history.

DawgsBite34
11-12-2013, 07:05 PM
We do what they cant stop stop very well. Weve got some weapons they don't match up well with, overall I think our defense will do a good job against them. They've got some good wideouts but if we can slow him down like we did Evans we'll be fine. Evans really didn't do much until that one big play that Cox gave up. Offensively if Dan will help us out RUN THE DAMN BALL!!!!!!!!!!!! I could see us winning, if we come out and not play to our strengths like Dan has done this year we'll lose. That's how Ive seen all our games this year, if we coach, we're in position to win. When we don't you get what you got at SC 4th quarter at Auburn and Ok State.

Coach 57
11-12-2013, 07:16 PM
For all the reasons stated above plus one caviot. In order for them to win that game they will have to put CDM in a position that cost our last coach his job. Which is losing this game in a blowout. I feel we either win OR they blow us out. It won't be us being close to them ala aTm. Mark it down, we either win or they blow us out. I know from a good source if they get up big late they are going to keep running up the score.

ShotgunDawg
11-12-2013, 07:24 PM
For all the reasons stated above plus one caviot. In order for them to win that game they will have to put CDM in a position that cost our last coach his job. Which is losing this game in a blowout. I feel we either win OR they blow us out. It won't be us being close to them ala aTm. Mark it down, we either win or they blow us out. I know from a good source if they get up big late they are going to keep running up the score.

Any chance we blow them out?

DesireeDawg
11-12-2013, 07:32 PM
Is it to far fetched to assume that after 3 ass beatings in a row, we didnt treat the Egg Bowl like we have in year's past? I fully expect to see the same passion we saw in '09 when that team had everything to prove. They havent beaten us in Starkville in a decade. They will come in over confident like they did in '09 and we will take back the egg and the momemtum. I dont feel I am being over confident in assuming this either.

Coach 57
11-12-2013, 08:10 PM
@Shotgun, the only reason I say we either win or they blow us out is the sheer abundance of on the field talent loss (injuries) we have suffered finally takes it's toll in a VERY emotional game. I feel this game we'll come out with a lot of fire & energy (and actually think we'll win, been saying all year) but after too many big shots if momentum flip it will catapult them into a state of shock we saw last year in the final two games. The look on their faced is the look of someone who has never been a fight and gets punched right in the face. I'm going out on a limb here but I feel Tyler was placed in a position by someone from high on the staff and you can't make chicken crap into chicken salad. And when we got down we had no leadership besides guys who were worrying more about draft statuses and less about winning the two most important games of the season. I don't feel that is going to happen because I can see guys gravitating towards Dak. He TRULY has leadership qualities. Not because he's the type of QB CDM needs for this system but because of the fact he is asked to do the little things. Like holder for the kicker, being fired up when others are down, holding up 4 fingers to represent the 4th qtr of a game he played horrible in when others (players & fans) don't see it. I feel very good about the leadership of this team in Dak Prescott. And couple this with the fact that he is handling something that none if these kids thought he'd have to handle, SEVERE loss. And how he handles it both in and off the field! But right now, he is ALL we have until we start tailoring to his strengths. But we aren't at a point in the season to do that right now. This isn't XBOX where you just slide over to practice mode & change your play book & game prep. We are 3 games left before the season is over. That's why we won't win in a blow out. But there are things we can do to help him. Run screens & draws Vs that hard charging defensive front. It worked in the first 3 Egg Bowls, it's ripe for the picking! Otherwise they are going to key off on Dak every play.

Radddawg
11-12-2013, 08:33 PM
Do you realize that OM hasn't won a game on grass since 2008 against LSU?



So in order to beat us, they will have to overcome a little history.


They beat Texas in Austin on grass this season I believe. I don't need any crazy stats to tell me why we're gonna beat the Black Bears on Thanksgiving. We are going to win the Egg Bowl because we have a better football team and it will be senior day in Starkville. We will also be playing for bowl eligibility after a blow out win in Little Rock. Plus we will have 50,000+ fans cheering and ringing their tails off and supporting our guys. That's why we will win.

ShotgunDawg
11-12-2013, 08:43 PM
They beat Texas in Austin on grass this season I believe. I don't need any crazy stats to tell me why we're gonna beat the Black Bears on Thanksgiving. We are going to win the Egg Bowl because we have a better football team and it will be senior day in Starkville. We will also be playing for bowl eligibility after a blow out win in Little Rock. Plus we will have 50,000+ fans cheering and ringing their tails off and supporting our guys. That's why we will win.

Texas plays of turf

drummerdawg
11-12-2013, 08:51 PM
What happens if we lose to Arkansas? How would that effect the players knowing we aren't playing for a bowl game?

cbrunt29
11-12-2013, 08:58 PM
What happens if we lose to Arkansas? How would that effect the players knowing we aren't playing for a bowl game?

It would effect out players big time and we would probably lose the egg bowl. Wouldn't have any desire to win

Coach34
11-12-2013, 10:11 PM
What happens if we lose to Arkansas?

There will be a shitstorm on this board- that's for sure

Madkinmecrazy
11-12-2013, 10:58 PM
Pretty sure the old Cotton Bowl was grass when they won it in 2008 (or I guess, technically early 2009)

Good point though, hadn't thought about that.

ShotgunDawg
11-12-2013, 11:35 PM
Pretty sure the old Cotton Bowl was grass when they won it in 2008 (or I guess, technically early 2009)

Good point though, hadn't thought about that.

You know what, your right. They went to back to back Cotton Bowls the first being against Texas Tech at the Cotton Bowl on grass, and the second being at Cowboys Stadium on turf.

So their last win on grass was against Texas Tech, in the Cotton Bowl, on January 2, 2009

4Dawgs4Life
11-13-2013, 01:00 AM
While we spitting out history leading to victories, you guys do realize we have never won in Little Rock...

History has nothing to do with with it. This year is this year. One way we win and that's if we can run the ball and keep the ball out of Bo's hands. That was the only reason we were somewhat close to aTm (two possessions is not within striking distance btw)

But if we can't make time consuming drives and have a three and out 2 times a quarter then we are in deep trouble. No way we can cover their receivers You guys can say dink and dunk all you want but look at every game they have played this year and you will see a BIG play there. They have several 50+ yard touchdown throws and runs. They average like over 6 yards per play. So say what you want but we have to keep them off the field. We won't be able to stop them if we don't keep them off the field.

Now that doesn't mean we can't keep them off the field. They don't stop the run very well so there is where our opportunity lies. Can Dak convert a few big 3rd down conversions with the pass or hit a big play in the passing game when they load up to stop the run. That's where this game will be decided.

Radddawg
11-13-2013, 08:44 AM
While we spitting out history leading to victories, you guys do realize we have never won in Little Rock.


A coworker and fellow bulldog told me earlier this week that we haven't won in the entire STATE of Arkansas against Pig U since they joined the SEC back in 92. I wasn't sure if that was true. I felt sure we stole one in Fayetteville one year since then but I guess I was wrong about that. Time to put that streak to bed.

Dudydawg2005
11-13-2013, 08:55 AM
Texas plays of turf

Does Vandy have Turf?
that is a fact I was not aware of... I think the biggest thing is what Om did against Auburn a Big running qb. We win if Dak is able to run and hold the ball for long slow drives. Hold OM to under 70 plays.

ShotgunDawg
11-13-2013, 09:03 AM
Does Vandy have Turf?
.

Yes

mjh94
11-13-2013, 09:08 AM
Michael Sam is liable to break Bo Sunshine Wallace's arm off as many times as hes gonna be sacked by Mizzou.

DawgInMemphis
11-13-2013, 09:13 AM
A coworker and fellow bulldog told me earlier this week that we haven't won in the entire STATE of Arkansas against Pig U since they joined the SEC back in 92. I wasn't sure if that was true. I felt sure we stole one in Fayetteville one year since then but I guess I was wrong about that. Time to put that streak to bed.

I don't think we've ever won a football game in the state of Arkansas, period. Maybe someone more knowledgeable than me can confirm/deny this?

Jack Lambert
11-13-2013, 09:19 AM
What happens if we lose to Arkansas? How would that effect the players knowing we aren't playing for a bowl game?

They play Old School Big 10 footbal,l big guy on big guy and they run it. I like our defensive interior against that type of offense. They are going to have to pass to win. I really like our chances on that game.

Dudydawg2005
11-13-2013, 09:25 AM
Yes
Never would have thought Vandy or Little Rock had field turf.... learn something every day!

BulldogBear
11-13-2013, 09:31 AM
I don't think we've ever won a football game in the state of Arkansas, period. Maybe someone more knowledgeable than me can confirm/deny this?

Confirmed

Vancleave
11-13-2013, 09:32 AM
I don't have time to list all the reasons we win this game but here is a few.

1. We run the ball inside the tackles. They will struggle stopping This.
2. We will want it more and we are playing at home.
3. Our Defense will pressure Wallace into making bad throws.
4. They will not be able to get to the edge on us. We have fast linebackers and great DE's that will keep them inside where they are BAD.

Guy's mark this post so you can come back and tell me how right I was after the game. We win this one, I would bet my last dollar on it.

wobblyh
11-13-2013, 11:19 AM
1. We run the ball inside the tackles. They will struggle stopping This.

Alabama is the only team that ran the ball up the middle on them. Auburn and A&M had success on the edge with QBs. Dak could be this threat but it wont come up the middle.


2. We will want it more and we are playing at home.

Home field matters. But I don't think you can say anyone will want to win more than OM. OM under Freeze hasn't had any issues with getting up for important games. I do think the passion/motivation will be equal though between the two teams.


3. Our Defense will pressure Wallace into making bad throws.

This might be the case. But Alabama has been the only team to really do this so far. I don't think MSU has a better pass rush than LSU, Bama or Auburn.


4. They will not be able to get to the edge on us. We have fast linebackers and great DE's that will keep them inside where they are BAD.

OM hasn't gotten to edge against anyone since the Texas game. They have depending heavily on Wallace of late. If MSU is to win, it'll be by taking away the pass on first down. When OM gets good results on 1st down, they are hard to stop.



Guy's mark this post so you can come back and tell me how right I was after the game. We win this one, I would bet my last dollar on it.

State might very well win, but I would be willing to bet it will not be for most of the reasons you described.

drummerdawg
11-13-2013, 11:31 AM
I just hope State isnt tied or ahead by less than 7 points with 3 minutes or less in the game with om having the ball. I can see them marching down the field and scoring pretty quickly and us not being able to get it passed the 50 without running out of time. We have no two minute offense

TheRef
11-13-2013, 11:33 AM
I just hope State isnt tied or ahead by less than 7 points with 3 minutes or less in the game with om having the ball. I can see them marching down the field and scoring pretty quickly and us not being able to get it passed the 50 without running out of time. We have no two minute offense

Two-minute offense? You mean that magical formation where a team goes faster than usual? I thought that was the spread option*********

HancockCountyDog
11-13-2013, 11:38 AM
Im convinced that it is this simple:

We beat Arkansas - we will beat the bears.

We lose to Arkansas - we will lose to the bears.

Coach34
11-13-2013, 11:48 AM
And I have to keep reminding people-

1. No 1st year UPig coach has ever beaten us
2. We've never played a UPig team in Arkansas that was winless in the SEC

There are trends both ways this season

It comes down to us stuffing their run game and putting some points on the board

TrapGame
11-13-2013, 12:03 PM
Im convinced that it is this simple:

We beat Arkansas - we will beat the bears.

We lose to Arkansas - we will lose to the bears.

Gotta agree with this.

I think we beat Arkansas. And I think we beat them handily. We'll score in the fourth quarter a couple of times to just put it way out of reach. This will fire up the team and Mullen can use it to pump them up for the EB. I have a feeling Dak and Josh will be the equivalent of Relf and Dixon in that 2009 EB.

FlabLoser
11-13-2013, 02:20 PM
The MSU and OM schedules aren't close.

Who wants to trade opening game with OSU for a Texas team who just had their DC fired and had a QB out?

thf24
11-13-2013, 02:53 PM
A coworker and fellow bulldog told me earlier this week that we haven't won in the entire STATE of Arkansas against Pig U since they joined the SEC back in 92. I wasn't sure if that was true. I felt sure we stole one in Fayetteville one year since then but I guess I was wrong about that. Time to put that streak to bed.

I agree, if for no other reason than to quiet the hysterical among us who thinks this fact has any impact whatsoever on the game. There is no "mental block" or supernatural power keeping us from winning in Arkansas. It's simply that the circumstances have been mostly in Arkansas' favor over the relatively short span we've been playing them regularly. If we'd only been playing LSU every year since 1992, we wouldn't have beat them in their state during that time span either.

Ragingclue
11-13-2013, 03:20 PM
Neither Osu nor Texas are looking good this year - I call that a wash except they won and we lost. I would not want to trade our Kentucky game for their vandy game. If we'd played an equally passionate game against vandy as we did against kentucky we would have lost by 2 TD's. the bears were lucky to get out of Nashville with that win.

Maroonthirteen
11-13-2013, 03:42 PM
Arkansas games.......I have been to most of them over there. Like other posters have said, most years, we have been the underdog. Only two years come to mind, 1993........so long ago but I was there. We should have beat them but we tied. We played like excrement. Jordan got hurt and we had to finish the game with freshman Derrick Taite. The 1999 game, again, we had a good team but so did they. Also, in 1999 they had their sights set on us. The players, coaches and fans were pissed about the 98 game. The 2001 game...I think 2001. We had a lead in the final minute in Fayetteville. Until Matt Jones, Johnnie Footballed us....the pocket breaks down and he runs 80 yards. Sickening. Anyway.....your brief history of MSU football in Arkansas. I understand most of our fans don't know it.......as we usually only have a few hundred there anyway. But I digress.....

Coach34
11-13-2013, 05:07 PM
Neither Osu nor Texas are looking good this year - .

Ok State is 8-1...define "not looking good"?

Radddawg
11-13-2013, 06:09 PM
Im convinced that it is this simple:

We beat Arkansas - we will beat the bears.

We lose to Arkansas - we will lose to the bears.


I dont care if we lose to Arkansas and Bama by a combined score of 120-6. Our guys arent losing to the Black Bears in Davis Wade on Senior Night. Aint. Gonna. Happen.

bluelightstar
11-13-2013, 06:55 PM
I only saw like 2 posts in this entire thread that were legitimate reasons (not "they haven't won in a decade" or "senior night") that we WILL win the Egg Bowl.

Madkinmecrazy
11-13-2013, 11:23 PM
Ok State is 8-1...define "not looking good"?

To be fair, they haven't played anybody this year... yet.

Texas Tech and KState are the only teams they've played with a winning record all year. Plus, they lost to a WVU team that is at 4-6 (but will finish 6-6, with KU and Iowa State left).

We'll know a lot more about this OSU team after they play the other best 3 teams in the BIG12 (Texas, Baylor, and Oklahoma) over the next 3 weeks. They could very well finish 8-4 (or just as likely, 11-1).

All I'm saying is that it's hard to judge OSU as being a "good" team until they play a ranked team. They certainly haven't looked bad yet though.

Radddawg
11-13-2013, 11:33 PM
If we'd played an equally passionate game against vandy as we did against kentucky we would have lost by 2 TD's.


If you're going to try and troll Bulldog message boards you're gonna have to learn how to use pronouns correctly. Idiot.

HunterDawg
11-14-2013, 08:54 AM
Actually, you don't "try and" do anything. You "try to" do it.

We are going to try to win the game. Not, we are going to try and win the game.

People who say "try and" don't know what an infinitive is.

What is wrong with the pronouns, anyway?

DawgsBite34
11-14-2013, 10:27 AM
Gotta agree with this.

I think we beat Arkansas. And I think we beat them handily. We'll score in the fourth quarter a couple of times to just put it way out of reach. This will fire up the team and Mullen can use it to pump them up for the EB. I have a feeling Dak and Josh will be the equivalent of Relf and Dixon in that 2009 EB.

Yeah they could've been all year but Danny Dumbass will still use Perk and not JRob