dogs vs cocks game 3

[99jc]

forsythe is a shit hitter

[bobtail bob]

That was a scared at bat

[CadaverDawg]

Don't worry guys, if we can get through this half and get Rowdey or TA on base we'll have Leggett and Hatcher in the 3 and 4 holes to drive em in.

What the hell was Lemonis thinking? I hate defensive subs...that usually comes back to bite you in the ass. Either roll with the ones that got you the lead, or don't. Don't change it in the 9th only to hamstring yourself in extras if it goes there.

[Activated Alpha]

In a few years we are going to remanence on how bad forsythe was with his bat. I know he is going to be a good player down the road but he has to stop looking at strikes go by

[CadaverDawg]

In a few years we are going to remanence on how bad forsythe was with his bat. I know he is going to be a good player down the road but he has to stop looking at strikes go by

He's not any better when he swings at em

[msstate7]

In a few years we are going to remanence on how bad forsythe was with his bat. I know he is going to be a good player down the road but he has to stop looking at strikes go by

I can live with garbage offense if he plays great defense

[Bdawg]

[QUOTE=CadaverDawg;1325207]Don't worry guys, if we can get through this half and get Rowdey or TA on base we'll have Leggett and Hatcher in the 3 and 4 holes to drive em in.

What the hell was Lemonis thinking? I hate defensive subs...that usually comes back to bite you in the ass. Either roll with the ones that got you the lead, or don't. Don't change it in the 9th only to hamstring yourself in extras if it goes there.[/QUOTE

Rowdy double and TA double will have to do it.

[CadaverDawg]

Wes Clarke up again in a walkoff spot

[magrooder]

Struck him out looking again

[BeardoMSU]

Top of the order needs to deliver.

[Bdawg]

Dang I believe ump finally gave us one just off the edge.

[VandelayIndustries]

I’ll take it but this ump is garbage

[CadaverDawg]

Smith has given us a chance we probably didn't deserve. Will we capitalize? Probably going to take a walk off bomb to do it, especially now that Lemonis has killed the rest of our order with defensive subs

[Saltydog]

Looks like they're changing pitchers. This guy has good numbers too. 15 hits in 33 innings with 58K's.

[Bdawg]

Crap. Robbed rowdy of a double

[magrooder]

Left fielder just robbed Rowdey with a great catch. Dammit

[BeardoMSU]

Rowdy also swung at ball 4

[CadaverDawg]

Shit

[BeardoMSU]

We could have 2 on no outs.

[magrooder]

Rowdy also swung at ball 4

Yes, but you can't depend on the ump to call it

[KOdawg1]

He actually might be out. May not be enough

[BeardoMSU]

Yes, but you can't depend on the ump to call it

True, but that ball was a very low off the plate, Rowdy just went down and got it.

[Saltydog]

Leggett, sigh. We have some guys in the lineup that are just automatic outs. That's why I'm concerned about the post season. We just can't hit up and down the lineup. Leggett and Hatcher couldn't hit a basketball.

[KOdawg1]

You could literally pelvic thrust a baseball across the middle of the plate to Forsythe and Legget, and they'd swing through it for strike 3

[CadaverDawg]

Leggett and Hatcher, the anti-clutch

[KOdawg1]

That exit velo tho

[Bdawg]

And there it is. Death, taxes, Hatcher grounder to second.

[Bulldog1]

Shocker our senior 1B grounds out.

Ground ball machine

[Cooterpoot]

Glad to see Hatcher hasn't lost his stroke. Best dribbler to 2nd hitter I've ever seen.

[BeardoMSU]

This is frustrating. Hatch with his patented grounder to 2nd. I guess it's a plus he didn't strike out. Baby steps.

[The Federalist Engineer]

If soft ground balls to the 2nd man were an Olympic sport... we would have the gold medal guy at MSU

[KOdawg1]

These substitutions are going to end up costing us this game.

[Bdawg]

Going to have to have a homer from Rowdy, TA, or Tanner to take a lead I guess. Too many holes in the line up now. Never mind. Walkoff hit.

[BeardoMSU]

Welp, glad we played it safe.

[KOdawg1]

LOL this one is on you Lemonis.

[Homedawg]

This game was lost yesterday. Period.

[Cooterpoot]

We won't even use our best to win a championship. We going to baby those arms til the end.

[Homedawg]

LOL this one is on you Lemonis.

Hmmm. How??

[Bdawg]

Pissed this one way. Hitting really cost us but if we take it to the ninth with a lead, our bullpen is supposed to bring it home.

[Activated Alpha]

At least we won the series, but this definitely leaves a sour taste in the mouth. Bad offense. Defense screwed us last night so we had to burn Sims.

[R2Dawg]

LOL this one is on you Lemonis.

I didn't get to see the first 8 innings. I know he blew the pitching, what was up with the lineup? 0-6 with RSP ain't going to get done. We sucked at plate today.

[The Federalist Engineer]

Welp, glad we played it safe.

Prevent Defense turned us toothless on Offense

But we left so many guys on base before the 9th.

[Bdawg]

I didn't get to see the first 8 innings. I know he blew the pitching, what was up with the lineup? 0-6 with RSP ain't going to get done. We sucked at plate today.

Thought it was 0-7? Doesn't matter. Sucked either way.

[R2Dawg]

Pissed this one way. Hitting really cost us but if we take it to the ninth with a lead, our bullpen is supposed to bring it home.

Yeah our bullpen is good but at times we just don't get it done.

[EdwardDrayton]

We were determined to give them every chance until they won it.

[Cooterpoot]

Bad defense and player management. Been the same all season long.

[The Federalist Engineer]

Hmmm. How??

I’m not saying he blew it, cause nobody was hitting with RISP

But you can’t put Hatcher in games other SWAC games, that’s giving up on a hitting position.

[mparkerfd20]

Lemonis lost the SEC today with his stupid decisions.

[parabrave]

OK sorry to pump sunshine up everyones 4th point of contact but win our last 2 series and we will finish 4th in seeding.

[Bulldog1]

Hmmm. How??

Our lack of hitting with risp cost us this game but do you agree w/ how Lemonis manages this pitching staff?

[99jc]

Lemonis needs to get off his 17ing fatass and recruit players better than hatcher--Forsythe---AND Debrule.....no excuse we have the whole damn world to recruit and he has these division 2 players .

[KOdawg1]

Hmmm. How??

Idk, I'm mad and I want someone to blame.

Tomorrow, I'll wake up and be satisfied with taking a series vs. a top 25 team on the road, but right now, I'm pissed we gave away a sweep. Could've been in the driver's seat for an SEC title. Can still get it, but we'll need some help now.

[Bulldog1]

And all the defensive subs-

[VandelayIndustries]

Our lack of hitting with risp cost us this game but do you agree w/ how Lemonis manages this pitching staff?

Yea this is my issue, is he saving Sims for postseason? Our we going to pitch Sims 3 days in a row in a regional? I don’t see it happening

[ZedFedder]

Lol.

[99jc]

Our lack of hitting with risp cost us this game but do you agree w/ how Lemonis manages this pitching staff?

not with Sims...if sims cant come in for one inning to win the series he is a puss

[The Federalist Engineer]

Yeah our bullpen is good but at times we just don't get it done.

Question to a former pitcher...

The ump affected our rhythm- nobody could come-in and settle. Kept SC alive by making us press.

Plus the brutal 3rd strike call on Rowdey

[Activated Alpha]

This game was lost because of the defense last night and the offense today. If we want to win a Natty we cannot go 0-fer with the bases loaded multiple times

[Bdawg]

not with Sims...if sims cant come in for one inning to win the series he is a puss

Yeah if he really wanted this game, I think we still had the lead with one out in the ninth. Sims could have come in for 2 outs if Lemonis wanted him too. I mean if Sims threw 30 pitches last night(think somebody said 30 earlier in the thread) and 15-20 more today, that probably less than 50 on the weekend. Surely that's not over taxing a reliever is it?

[Bdawg]

Question to a former pitcher...

The ump affected our rhythm- nobody could come-in and settle. Kept SC alive by making us press.

Plus the brutal 3rd strike call on Rowdey

What's your question?

[The Federalist Engineer]

Lemonis needs to get off his 17ing fatass and recruit players better than hatcher--Forsythe---AND Debrule.....no excuse we have the whole damn world to recruit and he has these division 2 players .

Out of bounds dude!

He did not recruit Hatcher. Forsyth is a freshman and will be better. The classes coming in, that Lemonis is architecting are quite strong.

I did wish he would go find a 6th to 10th round hitter for this year, but it’s not pro baseball you can’t just waive players and tender offers to roster players at USC and NC State

[Really Clark?]

Yeah if he really wanted this game, I think we still had the lead with one out in the ninth. Sims could have come in for 2 outs if Lemonis wanted him too. I mean if Sims threw 30 pitches last night(think somebody said 30 earlier in the thread) and 15-20 more today, that probably less than 50 on the weekend. Surely that's not over taxing a reliever is it?

He threw 34 pitches last night.

[mparkerfd20]

not with Sims...if sims cant come in for one inning to win the series he is a puss

You get it. I agree. Severely disappointed in our head coach.

[The Federalist Engineer]

What's your question?

The ump messed up the rhythm of Harding and Simmons. They were both bracketed to short stints due to strike zone fluctuations. Those two guys could have rolled up SC otherwise.

That’s why Foxhall got tossed

[msstate7]

He threw 34 pitches last night.

If we wanna win it all, we gonna have to get more innings from sims. I wanna see us start working him back-to-back days more

[Homedawg]

I?m not saying he blew it, cause nobody was hitting with RISP

But you can?t put Hatcher in games other SWAC games, that?s giving up on a hitting position.

So you'd have left Hancock in at first?? W a lead in the 9th?? No way

[Really Clark?]

If we wanna win it all, we gonna have to get more innings from sims. I wanna see us start working him back-to-back days more

Don’t disagree. I’m bringing him today, at least to get the last 2 outs.

[Really Clark?]

So you'd have left Hancock in at first?? W a lead in the 9th?? No way

I didn’t have a problem with that but with a 1 run lead I’m not pulling my 3 and 4 hole hitters in that situation. Too tight of a game

[R2Dawg]

The ump messed up the rhythm of Harding and Simmons. They were both bracketed to short stints due to strike zone fluctuations. Those two guys could have rolled up SC otherwise.

That?s why Foxhall got tossed

Foxhall got tossed? Sounds like home cookin umping? I missed most of game.

[Homedawg]

I didn’t have a problem with that but with a 1 run lead I’m not pulling my 3 and 4 hole hitters in that situation. Too tight of a game

You don't disagree yet Hancock was hitting forth. And most on here bitch about James playing third period. Yet our defensive replacement mad the throwing error.

[Homedawg]

If we wanna win it all, we gonna have to get more innings from sims. I wanna see us start working him back-to-back days more

If this were a regional I'd agree. But I wouldn't have thrown him today either.

[msstate7]

If this were a regional I'd agree. But I wouldn't have thrown him today either.

I'd like to see us limit him to inning a game these last 2 weekends, but use him in successive days or Friday-Sunday.

[Really Clark?]

You don't disagree yet Hancock was hitting forth. And most on here bitch about James playing third period. Yet our defensive replacement mad the throwing error.

I didn?t have a problem necessarily pulling Hancock for Hatcher or James for Leggett, one or the other but not both. Or leaving it as it is, which is what I mist likely would have done. Just not both 3 and 4 hole hitters

[maroonmania]

not with Sims...if sims cant come in for one inning to win the series he is a puss

Seriously, if Sims can't come in and pitch one inning with possibly the SEC title on the line after throwing 34 pitches the day before then we don't deserve an SEC title. He wouldn't have pitched again for a minimum of another 5 days after today anyway. In fact, we may not even need him at all in the Missouri series next weekend. If he is that fragile then Lemonis made a serious mistake yesterday pitching him 2 innings with a 3 run lead. We could have probably had somebody else pitch the 8th yesterday and still won.

[Really Clark?]

Seriously, if Sims can't come in and pitch one inning with possibly the SEC title on the line after throwing 34 pitches the day before then we don't deserve an SEC title. He wouldn't have pitched again for a minimum of another 5 days after today anyway. In fact, we may not even need him at all in the Missouri series next weekend. If he is that fragile then Lemonis made a serious mistake yesterday pitching him 2 innings with a 3 run lead. We could have probably had somebody else pitch the 8th yesterday and still won.

Missouri series starts Thursday, not Friday.

[KOdawg1]

Missouri series starts Thursday, not Friday.

That's good. I'm ready to get this taste out of my mouth.

[Homedawg]

Seriously, if Sims can't come in and pitch one inning with possibly the SEC title on the line after throwing 34 pitches the day before then we don't deserve an SEC title. He wouldn't have pitched again for a minimum of another 5 days after today anyway. In fact, we may not even need him at all in the Missouri series next weekend. If he is that fragile then Lemonis made a serious mistake yesterday pitching him 2 innings with a 3 run lead. We could have probably had somebody else pitch the 8th yesterday and still won.

Who said he's fragile? You're going off the deep end. If you want to blame someone, blame Hancock for us having to use him yesterday. That's where the game was lost when we blew a 9-3 lead Bc we can't catch.

[maroonmania]

Who said he's fragile? You're going off the deep end. If you want to blame someone, blame Hancock for us having to use him yesterday. That's where the game was lost when we blew a 9-3 lead Bc we can't catch.

Deep end? If he can't pitch one inning after throwing 34 pitches the day before knowing he won't pitch again for days and days then yes, he is pretty fragile. If winning the SEC is meaningless then whatever, guess it doesn't matter anyway. But Lemonis screwed up yesterday throwing him in the 8th if that's his situation. With a 3 run lead, he should have only come out in the 8th if SC got the tying run to the plate.

[Really Clark?]

Deep end? If he can't pitch one inning after throwing 34 pitches the day before knowing he won't pitch again for days and days then yes, he is pretty fragile. If winning the SEC is meaningless then whatever, guess it doesn't matter anyway. But Lemonis screwed up yesterday throwing him in the 8th if that's his situation. With a 3 run lead, he should have only come out in the 8th if SC got the tying run to the plate.

Well you are inferring a whole lot...he didn’t call down to the dugout to tell the coach he wasn’t pitching today. That decision came from the coach. I want to see him get some back to back games now and not wait until the tournament but Sims isn’t making that decision.

[maroonmania]

Well you are inferring a whole lot...he didn’t call down to the dugout to tell the coach he wasn’t pitching today. That decision came from the coach. I want to see him get some back to back games now and not wait until the tournament but Sims isn’t making that decision.

When did I say it was his decision? I understand the call is 100% on the coaches.

[Really Clark?]

When did I say it was his decision? I understand the call is 100% on the coaches.

Deep end? If he can't pitch one inning after throwing 34 pitches the day before knowing he won't pitch again for days and days then yes, he is pretty fragile. .

Then why are you calling out the player?!?

[maroonmania]

Deep end? If he can't pitch one inning after throwing 34 pitches the day before knowing he won't pitch again for days and days then yes, he is pretty fragile. .

Then why are you calling out the player?!?

Gracious, the coaches obviously believe he can't pitch again in that situation even though the coaches know he won't pitch again for days. Nowhere in that did I say that somehow Sims didn't want to pitch or refuse to go in the game. Pretty obvious our coaches are going the opposite extreme of what Bianco does in protecting arms and are willing to sacrifice regular season accomplishments in the process if need be. Heck, we don't know for sure our coaches will even push anyone in post-season. I mean I wish we had another truly dependable end game pitcher other than Sims, but at this point we don't.

[Bdawg]

He threw 34 pitches last night.

Yeah that's not enough to keep him out of the ninth or just get 2 outs. Heck he might have only had to throw 10 pitches.

[The Federalist Engineer]

So you'd have left Hancock in at first?? W a lead in the 9th?? No way

Yes leave Hancock. And we should not have messed with brilliant Infield of Friday and Saturday

In a home run park like Founders, a 1-run lead can fly over a wall regardless of replacements or shifts, so you don?t trade a competent bat for a zero threat hitter with only marginally better defense.

Polk explained on radio how K James bat is invigorated by not playing defense.