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MetEdDawg
05-08-2021, 06:39 PM
Is that our best is as good as anyone else in the country. We just went on the road and took the series from a conference team in consideration for a host spot and we did it pretty easily. And we go for the sweep tomorrow.

Team has grown a lot since the Arkansas series and we look as good as anyone else in the country right now. Do we have flaws and weaknesses? Sure. Doesn't mean we aren't capable. This team has the ability to win a title. Period. Anyone that says otherwise just wants to hedge their happiness because they expect us to come up short.

R2Dawg
05-08-2021, 07:42 PM
Is that our best is as good as anyone else in the country. We just went on the road and took the series from a conference team in consideration for a host spot and we did it pretty easily. And we go for the sweep tomorrow.

Team has grown a lot since the Arkansas series and we look as good as anyone else in the country right now. Do we have flaws and weaknesses? Sure. Doesn't mean we aren't capable. This team has the ability to win a title. Period. Anyone that says otherwise just wants to hedge their happiness because they expect us to come up short.

Even NC teams have flaws. We have NC ingredients and agree we are playing as good as anyone right now.

I'd like to see us pitch regular to start SECT then go heavy into the pen. If we win SECT it will be with our inexperienced arms. Save are studs for the run.

CadaverDawg
05-08-2021, 07:51 PM
I agree. The ingredients are there, now let's bake the damn cake.

https://y.yarn.co/766e58d0-8f67-4e4e-aa0a-64172c4bb36e_text.gif

BiscuitEater
05-08-2021, 07:54 PM
Remember when we ran into that hot 'Zona team; we were as good as them or better BUT they were 'hotter' and 'had more momentum!'

Tought me that we want to peak at the regionals, suppers and CWS!

MaroonFlounder
05-08-2021, 09:11 PM
I was ready to see geautreau geau.

But just like the few previous years, I see improvement in these hitters throughout the lineup. (Except for Hatcher, who has been pretty much benched now)

Hambone
05-08-2021, 10:31 PM
It’s amazing what happens when the coaches get time to do their job…..

Cooterpoot
05-08-2021, 10:42 PM
Defense is our weakness when our starters give us quality starts. Hitting has come around. Pen is deep.

Dawgcap
05-08-2021, 11:03 PM
There will always be a trade off. We are talented. Will have pain in 1 or the other. To me you err on the side of fewer walks and defense. But there is a choice at the end of the day. Are we better with the new lineup? Right now definitely. No team is perfect but I love the moves even though I hope Hatcher gets it together. But at this point what is the trade off? Today I say it was an even trade. Hancock homer, error vs Hatcher in lineup and not producing.

Dawgcap
05-08-2021, 11:09 PM
Forsythe has saved us in the field vs what we sometimes lose at plate. I’ll say this again outs are gonna be made. It’s imperative we have players step up win 1-3 in lineup have a tough day. Y’all can believe the top of the order can carry us but baseball odds say that shit ain’t gonna always happen. Also some will hate this but we will lose several times in the coming weeks. It’s just baseball. Just win when it’s important

Todd4State
05-08-2021, 11:29 PM
Remember when we ran into that hot 'Zona team; we were as good as them or better BUT they were 'hotter' and 'had more momentum!'

Tought me that we want to peak at the regionals, suppers and CWS!

Depends on the draw. If we draw what we're projected- I really like our odds of at least getting to Omaha. Last time we were absolutely screwed by the umpire. We have a deeper bullpen now than we did last time though.

BeardoMSU
05-08-2021, 11:33 PM
I agree. The ingredients are there, now let's bake the damn cake.

https://y.yarn.co/766e58d0-8f67-4e4e-aa0a-64172c4bb36e_text.gif

Cake? I want a beef Wellington.**

The Federalist Engineer
05-09-2021, 12:03 AM
TD Ameritrade dimensions could be a big asset for us. Keeps Arkansas and Vandy sluggers in the ball park.

Reducing the long ball makes us equal with those guys.

Todd4State
05-09-2021, 12:49 AM
TD Ameritrade dimensions could be a big asset for us. Keeps Arkansas and Vandy sluggers in the ball park.

Reducing the long ball makes us equal with those guys.

Probably Arkansas moreso than Vandy. The thing about Vandy to watch right now is to see if Rocker and Leiter are breaking down.

SaintDawg
05-09-2021, 01:48 AM
TD Ameritrade dimensions could be a big asset for us. Keeps Arkansas and Vandy sluggers in the ball park.

Reducing the long ball makes us equal with those guys.

When we played for the Natty Title in '13, we were the better team. We had more power but not the pitching the UCLA had. They beat us in hitting with fundamental small ball and their pitching made up for lack of power. We were crushing balls that would've been out of ballparks anywhere else. The balls and the bats were different. We all know that. Dudy Noble is actually more like TD Ameritrade is than I think we realize. It has more foul territory in the infield but not in the outfield, just like the Dude. I want to say our guys can lay those hits in those narrow spots better than others. TD Ameritrade is bigger on purpose for sure, but not by much. It favors the right handed batter and not he left. At TD, right field plays deeper allowing balls hit that way to drop in more. My point being is that the hitters we got will be more prone to putting balls into play to advance runners instead of trying to muscle it out. Just like UCLA in '13. BUT we have some of the power to go with it to now that the balls and bats are different. Maybe I'm rambling and I've had some bourbons. Am I making any sense? What say you? Tell me to shut up if I'm dumb.

TD Ameritrade:
Left Line ? 335 ft (102 m)
Left Center ? 375 ft (114 m)
Center Field ? 408 ft (124 m)
Right Center ? 375 ft (114 m)
Right Line ? 335 ft (102 m)[1]


Dudy Noble:
LF: 330 ft (100.6 m)
LC: 376 ft (114.6 m)
CF: 390 ft (118.9 m)
RC: 374 ft (114.0 m)
RF: 305 ft (93.0 m

The Federalist Engineer
05-09-2021, 02:16 AM
Saint Dawg, TDA plays huge during CWS in mid summer. Balls die in the outfield. It is not a home run derby park.

Rangers Stadium is basically the same size as TDA with 6 foot shallower corners, played huge. Even Arkansas only got a single HR in that park.

SaintDawg
05-09-2021, 02:29 AM
Saint Dawg, TDA plays huge during CWS in mid summer. Balls die in the outfield. It is not a home run derby park.

Rangers Stadium is basically the same size as TDA with 6 foot shallower corners, played huge. Even Arkansas only got a single HR in that park.

Yeah man.. I know it does. Like I said, I've been drinking and reading stats, etc. etc. Some numbers just popped out to me. That's all.

OLJWales
05-09-2021, 07:12 AM
Is that our best is as good as anyone else in the country. We just went on the road and took the series from a conference team in consideration for a host spot and we did it pretty easily. And we go for the sweep tomorrow.

Team has grown a lot since the Arkansas series and we look as good as anyone else in the country right now. Do we have flaws and weaknesses? Sure. Doesn't mean we aren't capable. This team has the ability to win a title. Period. Anyone that says otherwise just wants to hedge their happiness because they expect us to come up short.

Gonna try and rep

OLJWales
05-09-2021, 07:17 AM
I've always believed to design your park and croot based on Omaha

smootness
05-09-2021, 07:53 AM
There will always be a trade off. We are talented. Will have pain in 1 or the other. To me you err on the side of fewer walks and defense. But there is a choice at the end of the day. Are we better with the new lineup? Right now definitely. No team is perfect but I love the moves even though I hope Hatcher gets it together. But at this point what is the trade off? Today I say it was an even trade. Hancock homer, error vs Hatcher in lineup and not producing.

But having Hancock at 1B also allows us to DH James, which greatly improves the defense at 3B. So you don't ultimately lose anything on defense overall and you improve the lineup.

basedog
05-09-2021, 08:05 AM
But having Hancock at 1B also allows us to DH James, which greatly improves the defense at 3B. So you don't ultimately lose anything on defense overall and you improve the lineup.

+1

ArrowDawg
05-09-2021, 11:05 AM
Is that our best is as good as anyone else in the country. We just went on the road and took the series from a conference team in consideration for a host spot and we did it pretty easily. And we go for the sweep tomorrow.

Team has grown a lot since the Arkansas series and we look as good as anyone else in the country right now. Do we have flaws and weaknesses? Sure. Doesn't mean we aren't capable. This team has the ability to win a title. Period. Anyone that says otherwise just wants to hedge their happiness because they expect us to come up short.

They're definitely capable. We've had a lot of capable teams. We just don't ever do it. I'm at the point in my life where I think to win a title you either have to have a boatload of scholarships like Vandy, or you just have to get damn lucky. We've just never been too good in the luck department. It's a shame we didn't win a title about 25+ years ago, because there's way more parity now and you might as well just put a bunch of names in a bag every postseason and pick one out to win the CWS.

WinningIsRelentless
05-09-2021, 11:24 AM
+1

This isn?t necessarily true. Leggit isn?t hitting much better than Hatcher.

State82
05-09-2021, 11:37 AM
They're definitely capable. We've had a lot of capable teams. We just don't ever do it. I'm at the point in my life where I think to win a title you either have to have a boatload of scholarships like Vandy, or you just have to get damn lucky. We've just never been too good in the luck department. It's a shame we didn't win a title about 25+ years ago, because there's way more parity now and you might as well just put a bunch of names in a bag every postseason and pick one out to win the CWS.

Luck is a huge factor. Look no further than the two opposite ends of the luck spectrum......FSU and Coastal Carolina. Tells you all you need to know about how luck factors in to the CWS.

MetEdDawg
05-09-2021, 12:38 PM
They're definitely capable. We've had a lot of capable teams. We just don't ever do it. I'm at the point in my life where I think to win a title you either have to have a boatload of scholarships like Vandy, or you just have to get damn lucky. We've just never been too good in the luck department. It's a shame we didn't win a title about 25+ years ago, because there's way more parity now and you might as well just put a bunch of names in a bag every postseason and pick one out to win the CWS.

Well here's the thing about where we want to be. We want to be talented enough and well coached enough every year to be in the conversation. We have that.

We haven't been able to match that part with the luck part enough to win a title. We've gotten close, but you can't ever go into a year saying we should win a title because the best team rarely wins it all.

Lemonis has us where Omaha is a realistic possibility every year. And if you look at recruiting and our youth, I don't see that changing. There aren't but 5-7 programs that can say that every year. I think because of that Lemonis will get us there.

Really Clark?
05-09-2021, 12:38 PM
This isn?t necessarily true. Leggit isn?t hitting much better than Hatcher.

Yes it’s true, he’s not hitting much better but it’s still a little better (from a freshman no less) with no experience but makes our defense a good bit better.

WinningIsRelentless
05-09-2021, 12:39 PM
+1


Not much but still a little better (from a freshman no less) but makes our defense a good bit better.

At 3rd he makes it a little better but at first he makes it way worse.

Really Clark?
05-09-2021, 12:47 PM
At 3rd he makes it a little better but at first he makes it way worse.

A little?!? That’s a completely false statement, Cam was by far our worse defender. Whatever defensive runs save we lost from this move at 1st we have at least doubled from Leggett at 3rd. It’s not close.

smootness
05-09-2021, 02:25 PM
This isn?t necessarily true. Leggit isn?t hitting much better than Hatcher.

Yes he is. He's not great but still miles better Han Hatcher. His OBP is over 100 points better.

Joebob
05-09-2021, 03:33 PM
When we played for the Natty Title in '13, we were the better team. We had more power but not the pitching the UCLA had. They beat us in hitting with fundamental small ball and their pitching made up for lack of power. We were crushing balls that would've been out of ballparks anywhere else. The balls and the bats were different. We all know that. Dudy Noble is actually more like TD Ameritrade is than I think we realize. It has more foul territory in the infield but not in the outfield, just like the Dude. I want to say our guys can lay those hits in those narrow spots better than others. TD Ameritrade is bigger on purpose for sure, but not by much. It favors the right handed batter and not he left. At TD, right field plays deeper allowing balls hit that way to drop in more. My point being is that the hitters we got will be more prone to putting balls into play to advance runners instead of trying to muscle it out. Just like UCLA in '13. BUT we have some of the power to go with it to now that the balls and bats are different. Maybe I'm rambling and I've had some bourbons. Am I making any sense? What say you? Tell me to shut up if I'm dumb.

TD Ameritrade:
Left Line ? 335 ft (102 m)
Left Center ? 375 ft (114 m)
Center Field ? 408 ft (124 m)
Right Center ? 375 ft (114 m)
Right Line ? 335 ft (102 m)[1]


Dudy Noble:
LF: 330 ft (100.6 m)
LC: 376 ft (114.6 m)
CF: 390 ft (118.9 m)
RC: 374 ft (114.0 m)
RF: 305 ft (93.0 m

I did notice you were rambling but once you explained why, it made perfect sense! 🤣

Lord McBuckethead
05-11-2021, 02:50 PM
What is Forsythes fielding percentage?

Tbonewannabe
05-11-2021, 03:05 PM
What is Forsythes fielding percentage?

I don't know but I do know that he makes plays that no one else on our team would make at SS. Dude has a great glove and a MLB quickness type throw. He has the ball so quickly out of his glove and a short throwing motion. Probably the overall best defensive SS we have had in a while.

msstate7
05-11-2021, 03:10 PM
Yes he is. He's not great but still miles better Han Hatcher. His OBP is over 100 points better.

I think it can be debated.

Leggett's babip is .333 to Hatcher's .234 (career .356 in 336 AB). Leggett's k rate is highest among players with some action. Leggett's bb rate is much better than Hatcher's.

msstate7
05-11-2021, 03:11 PM
I think it can be debated.

Leggett's babip is .333 to Hatcher's .234 (career .356 in 336 AB). Leggett's k rate is highest among players with some action. Leggett's bb rate is much better than Hatcher's.

http://thebaseballcube.com/college/schools/stats.asp?Y=2021&T=20147

Tbonewannabe
05-12-2021, 09:28 AM
I think it can be debated.

Leggett's babip is .333 to Hatcher's .234 (career .356 in 336 AB). Leggett's k rate is highest among players with some action. Leggett's bb rate is much better than Hatcher's.

But hasn't Leggett pretty much just played SEC games for the most part? Hatcher is hitting like .120 or so in the SEC only games with only one extra base hit (can't quite remember but it was really bad). Leggett moving to 3rd allows us to DH Kam James. Overall defense increases by Leggett at 3rd and Hancock at 1st. Hatcher is a good defensive 1B but the difference isn't as big between him and Hancock as Leggett and James.

Big question is can Kellum Clark play 3rd or 1st. He looks like he is finally getting back to what we thought he might give us coming into the year before he got sick. Hopefully he can play 3rd and we can continue to DH James and let Hancock play 1st. That would give us our best hitting lineup.