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jdelta02
04-08-2021, 08:33 PM
3 Hayes sisters transferring to Miss. State. 2 from Middle Tennesse State, and 1 from Notredame.

Anastasia Hayes, former McDonald's All-American and Naismith Finalist, led the nation (NCAA D1 Women's Basketball) in scoring for a while last season. She finished 2nd in the nation....26.5 points per game....5.4 rebounds, 5.1 assists. Including 42 points against UAB. Started her college career as a freshma at Tennesse..Also, she scored 26 points in the 2021 NCAA Tourney against her former team Tennesse. She's definitely one of the top guards in the country. Her sisters Aislyn and Alasia are very talented as well...also the youngest sister Acacia Hayes (in high school).

Dawg-gone-dawgs
04-08-2021, 08:59 PM
3 Hayes sisters transferring to Miss. State. 2 from Middle Tennesse State, and 1 from Notredame.

Anastasia Hayes, former McDonald's All-American and Naismith Finalist, led the nation (NCAA D1 Women's Basketball) in scoring for a while last season. She finished 2nd in the nation....26.5 points per game....5.4 rebounds, 5.1 assists. Including 42 points against UAB. Started her college career as a freshma at Tennesse..Also, she scored 26 points in the 2021NCAA Tourney against her former team Tennesse. She's definitely one of the top guards in the country. Her sister Aislyn and Alasia are very talented as well...also the youngest sister Acacia Hayes (in high school).

Definitely some help

NCMSTFAN
04-08-2021, 09:34 PM
I must admit I wasn't happy with how this year turned out but I you have to give Nikki credit, she brought in some talent with these 3 and the Tulane transfer who was a 5 star recruit herself. I've heard from a few people that there was chemistry issues with last year's team. If that's the case, Nikki is getting her players in now so we may see a big change come next year. I'll be rooting for them

basedog
04-08-2021, 09:48 PM
I’m like whoa, very interesting read on the three Hayes sisters.

Dawgcap
04-08-2021, 10:17 PM
Great potential. But also a bit scary with potential with 3 sisters and 25% of your roster in 1 family of transfers. Dissension was a problem last year do the remaining players gel. Also it?s odd to add the dynamics of parents with this much discussion with staff. Are they laid back or do they get in the coaches ears if 1 or 2 of daughters don?t pan out? Also if we play all 3 consistently do others question if they should play.
I love the adds but the dynamics are interesting after seeing the dissension in our team last year. NMP is basing her career with us on this decision. I like it but to say it?s not risky is shortsighted

Cooterpoot
04-08-2021, 10:29 PM
Where all these guards going to play?

ZedFedder
04-08-2021, 10:38 PM
Well, I give her a lot of credit, she is doing all she can. I still don’t think she can coach, but I hope she proves me wrong.

Irondawg
04-08-2021, 10:46 PM
So at guard you know have: Taylor, Jones, Thompson, Godfrey, Moore, Shavers, Jordan and Hayes x 3. That?s 10 and you are gonna have a hard time playing more than 6.

Best guess is that Thompson, Moore and the other Hayes from MTSU don?t get much time. Then you?ll probably have Godfrey, Shavers, Jones and the Notre Dame Hayes battling for 3 spots.

I think we probably star Taylor, Jordan, Anastasia Hayes but I could see Taylor getting beat out and coming off the bench

Cooterpoot
04-08-2021, 10:56 PM
No bigs = sucks

KB21
04-08-2021, 11:13 PM
The parents of these girls don?t have the best reputation. Anastasia was dismissed from her first high school team, and the parents filed a lawsuit claiming racism. It was dismissed. He then was apparently dismissed from Tennessee for multiple rules violations. The parents apparently complained a lot about playing time.

I have a feeling that the two younger sisters were taken to get Anastasia.

Dawgcap
04-08-2021, 11:38 PM
The point I was trying to make. Great pick ups but at some point are we guaranteeing spots to 1 or 2 to get the others. Look let?s be real even in a family some are always more talented than the others. I hope they are all phenomenal but the thought has to be that 1-2 aren?t as talented. What are we willing to sacrifice to keep this family happy. Someone that remains has lost a spot. Are they ok and are their teammates that stuck around? I hope I?m wrong but there is potential for bad

jdelta02
04-09-2021, 12:12 AM
So at guard you know have: Taylor, Jones, Thompson, Godfrey, Moore, Shavers, Jordan and Hayes x 3. That?s 10 and you are gonna have a hard time playing more than 6.

Best guess is that Thompson, Moore and the other Hayes from MTSU don?t get much time. Then you?ll probably have Godfrey, Shavers, Jones and the Notre Dame Hayes battling for 3 spots.

I think we probably star Taylor, Jordan, Anastasia Hayes but I could see Taylor getting beat out and coming off the bench

Myah Taylor made a good bit of a scoring jump from the 2019-2020 season to this past season. Will need to continue to work hard, do her best...she's a very hard worker, and plays very hard. (Note) Coach McCray-Penson has mentioned in the past the importance of having good scoring/shooting point guards in her system, and Myah definitely improved her offense under this new coach, staff.

Reunion Dog
04-09-2021, 01:36 AM
Screw this idiot coach. She is a joke and has RUINED a once proud program.

And add john & Nelle in this group too...

Tbonewannabe
04-09-2021, 08:14 AM
Lack of bigs is concerning but at least she is bringing in talent. She has next year at least to show what she can actually do in games.

Matt3467
04-09-2021, 08:55 AM
Not sure if It's smart to have 3 sisters on the same team. Basketball fields a much smaller roster than the other 2 big sports so this could cause issues.

NCMSTFAN
04-09-2021, 09:49 AM
Will all 3 even be eligible to play next season? We may not have to worry about the logjam at guard if not. I'm sure we will get a big added to this team also. Nikki has shown she is a pretty good recruiter

NCMSTFAN
04-09-2021, 09:55 AM
One of the sisters was 2nd in the nation in scoring last year at over 26 ppg and they all 3 were highly recruited.. its hard to pass that up... and you win with Gaurd play. If we can add a transfer big onto this we will be a very good team on paper, Nikki will have to show whether she can coach or not, I personally hope she does good. She did turn ODU around... Im rooting for her

KB21
04-09-2021, 10:01 AM
One of the sisters was 2nd in the nation in scoring last year at over 26 ppg and they all 3 were highly recruited.. its hard to pass that up... and you win with Gaurd play. If we can add a transfer big onto this we will be a very good team on paper, Nikki will have to show whether she can coach or not, I personally hope she does good. She did turn ODU around... Im rooting for her

Did she really turn ODU around though. They were consistent 17 plus game winners under Karen Barefoot. Nikki comes in, and they immediately go from 17 wins to 8 wins and then back up to 22 wins.

basedog
04-09-2021, 11:32 AM
After further review, meh. If Coaches can't control the locker room, unless you are the NYY's back in the day, you can forget it.

NCMSTFAN
04-09-2021, 11:57 AM
Did she really turn ODU around though. They were consistent 17 plus game winners under Karen Barefoot. Nikki comes in, and they immediately go from 17 wins to 8 wins and then back up to 22 wins.

You may be right, who knows. Whatever the case we gave Mike Leach the benefit of the doubt because these weren't his players... other coaches have gotten it too. So I will give her a chance to win with her players before I write her off completely.. regardless bringing in these 3 girls along with Rickea, Carter and the Tulane transfer who was 5 star also, gives us a very talented team so Nikki will have an even shorter leash if she can't get things going next year

Prediction? Pain.
04-09-2021, 12:17 PM
Did she really turn ODU around though. They were consistent 17 plus game winners under Karen Barefoot. Nikki comes in, and they immediately go from 17 wins to 8 wins and then back up to 22 wins.

I haven't kept up with this at all but I keep on seeing posts about it so it's finally taken root. Barefoot coached at ODU for six seasons and finished with an overall record of 73-60 (.549) and conference record of 50-29 (.633). Her final two seasons there they finished 5th and 6th in their conference, which was about her average across her six seasons. (Their finishes range from 8th to 4th in their league.) So she was mediocre to ok, depending upon your perspective.

Problem was that Barefoot was replacing a legend named Wendy Larry. In her 24 years at ODU, Larry took them to 20 NCAA tournaments, seven sweet sixteens, two elite eights, and one national title game appearance. I mean, damn, she won her conference tournament for 17 years in a row. She won the regular season conference title in her last season at ODU, but she hadn't made the NCAA tournament for two straight years. That led ODU to refuse to extend her contract -- talk about a short leash, jeez -- so she retired.

Barefoot was an assistant under Larry at one point so I assume that they were hoping to continue the magic when they hired her. But they didn't, and then she randomly resigned and went somewhere else after six years.

McCray came and, as you said, took them to a new low in the 2017/2018 season. But then they bounced back bigtime in her next two seasons, finishing 5th in the league in year two and 2nd in year three, which was their best season since Larry's tenure a decade ago.

That's a pretty small sample size, but yeah, ODU was trending back in the right direction when McCray left to come to State. Not saying it'll work here, of course. I just felt like looking junk up.

Cowbell
04-09-2021, 12:36 PM
This will not end well. Anybody wanting to bet Vcash, I'm down.

ZedFedder
04-09-2021, 12:57 PM
You may be right, who knows. Whatever the case we gave Mike Leach the benefit of the doubt because these weren't his players... other coaches have gotten it too. So I will give her a chance to win with her players before I write her off completely.. regardless bringing in these 3 girls along with Rickea, Carter and the Tulane transfer who was 5 star also, gives us a very talented team so Nikki will have an even shorter leash if she can't get things going next year

Don't forget the Temple transfer who was also a very good pickup.

Dawg-gone-dawgs
04-09-2021, 01:03 PM
Lack of bigs is concerning but at least she is bringing in talent. She has next year at least to show what she can actually do in games.

I must have missed where it was said we were done with transfers?

NCMSTFAN
04-09-2021, 01:06 PM
Don't forget the Temple transfer who was also a very good pickup.
I must have missed her what was her name?

MadDawg
04-09-2021, 01:13 PM
This will not end well. Anybody wanting to bet Vcash, I'm down.

Agreed. Have a bad feeling about this.

KB21
04-09-2021, 01:20 PM
You may be right, who knows. Whatever the case we gave Mike Leach the benefit of the doubt because these weren't his players... other coaches have gotten it too. So I will give her a chance to win with her players before I write her off completely.. regardless bringing in these 3 girls along with Rickea, Carter and the Tulane transfer who was 5 star also, gives us a very talented team so Nikki will have an even shorter leash if she can't get things going next year

The difference is, Nikki inherited a very talented team. The fact that she couldn't win with what she inherited is a tremendous indictment on her coaching ability. I didn't see any strengths from her in her first season. Nothing that would make me believe she can be the coach here long term.

Dawg-gone-dawgs
04-09-2021, 01:34 PM
The difference is, Nikki inherited a very talented team. The fact that she couldn't win with what she inherited is a tremendous indictment on her coaching ability. I didn't see any strengths from her in her first season. Nothing that would make me believe she can be the coach here long term.

there were some serious attitude problems on the team, those problems are gone. We'll see if we are improved or not but NMP is not to blame...............yet

KB21
04-09-2021, 01:47 PM
there were some serious attitude problems on the team, those problems are gone. We'll see if we are improved or not but NMP is not to blame...............yet

That's the narrative people want to push, but one of those supposed attitude problems is going to Texas to play for Vic. Another is going to Alabama. One is going to West Virginia. If their attitude problems were that big, then why are they getting picked up by power 5 teams?

jdelta02
04-09-2021, 01:55 PM
I must have missed her what was her name?

Ashley Jones

NCMSTFAN
04-09-2021, 02:27 PM
The difference is, Nikki inherited a very talented team. The fact that she couldn't win with what she inherited is a tremendous indictment on her coaching ability. I didn't see any strengths from her in her first season. Nothing that would make me believe she can be the coach here long term.

She inherited a talented team that Vic himself also had some trouble getting to play the way he wanted, and he even admitted the struggles multiple times during his final year here. At the end of the day, they were his recruits, the slate was pretty much wiped clean and now Nikki is bringing in what she wants. If things don't look any better next season especially with the talent she has, there will be no more excuses

NCMSTFAN
04-09-2021, 02:29 PM
Ashley Jones

Thanks Jdelta.. I somehow missed this pickup. Just did some research and she averaged 16 ppg 4.5 rebs and 4.3 assist a game for Temple.. really good numbers. We definitely have alot of good gaurd play and Nikki can play fast with alot of bodies which she said is her style

KB21
04-09-2021, 02:36 PM
She inherited a talented team that Vic himself also had some trouble getting to play the way he wanted, and he even admitted the struggles multiple times during his final year here. At the end of the day, they were his recruits, the slate was pretty much wiped clean and now Nikki is bringing in what she wants. If things don't look any better next season especially with the talent she has, there will be no more excuses

This is my last point to make on this, but whatever trouble Vic had with getting them to play the way he wanted didn't effect the bottom line any. He won 27 games last season with this group being less experienced than they are now. Some want to attribute that to Jordan Danberry, but that team's best players were Rickea and Jessika.

maroonmania
04-09-2021, 02:41 PM
That's the narrative people want to push, but one of those supposed attitude problems is going to Texas to play for Vic. Another is going to Alabama. One is going to West Virginia. If their attitude problems were that big, then why are they getting picked up by power 5 teams?

I agree that it is hard to believe that, at least, AMatharu was a significant attitude problem if her former coach is willing to take her back. Vic certainly has other options but I guess there could have been something unique to NMP she didn't jive with. JMingo-Young I believe was a problem and was not that big of a contributor anyway. I do wish MHayes would have stayed. Appeared to be a good defender and energy player but limited offensively. So while we may be offloading some attitude problems it sort of sounds like we may be taking some on at the same time. Also, it is perplexing how NMP seems to be going after a ton of backcourt players with little to no regard for the frontcourt. Hope we shoot well because we won't have much rebounding outside of Carter. And I don't see this experiment ending well myself at the moment but I'm willing to give it one more year to see what happens. Might as well as NMP isn't going anywhere for the time being anyway.

Churchill
04-09-2021, 03:09 PM
Knew nothing about them but this doesn't surprise me at all. I will be pleasantly surprised if they turn out well for MSU.

Ari Gold
04-09-2021, 03:21 PM
This is my last point to make on this, but whatever trouble Vic had with getting them to play the way he wanted didn't effect the bottom line any. He won 27 games last season with this group being less experienced than they are now. Some want to attribute that to Jordan Danberry, but that team's best players were Rickea and Jessika.

Exactly... says a lot when you have trouble getting. A team to play the way you want and you still win damn near 30 games.
Maybe the correct narrative was these so called trouble makers wanted some to coach them and not dance with them..

NCMSTFAN
04-09-2021, 03:39 PM
This is my last point to make on this, but whatever trouble Vic had with getting them to play the way he wanted didn't effect the bottom line any. He won 27 games last season with this group being less experienced than they are now. Some want to attribute that to Jordan Danberry, but that team's best players were Rickea and Jessika.
We all know how great Coach Vic was, he has the resume to prove it and I miss him being our coach.. But he chose to go to Texas, and I am ok with that. Nikki came in and had a bad season with his recruits, just like JoMo did and Leach did. I still supported them both just like I will Nikki. She is definitely bringing in talented players so give her a FAIR shake. If she doesn't show any improvement anytime soon then get another coach! People got over Mike Leach's bad season really fast

NCMSTFAN
04-09-2021, 03:58 PM
Exactly... says a lot when you have trouble getting. A team to play the way you want and you still win damn near 30 games.
Maybe the correct narrative was these so called trouble makers wanted some to coach them and not dance with them..
You rarely see a coach come in and take over a very successful program and it picks off exactly where it was left. Yes it happens but not always right away. Again, give her a fair chance, if the results remain the same, she has to go. If any other program was bringing this talent in most fan bases would be pretty happy. Yes we lost alot with transfers, but she is bringing in an entire roster of ESPN top 100 girls who are all ranked 4 and 5 stars and some with proven NCAA experience to include a player who was 2nd in the nation in scoring at the collegiate level with 26.5 ppg.. regardless of how u feel, its something to have some excitement about. I'm rooting for her and the players.

jdelta02
04-09-2021, 04:19 PM
Not only can Coach McCray-Penson turn things around next season, but she can litterally make a national championship run with a rotation of ultra talented guards. Possibly completely flip the script on narrative. Though, the team could defintely use some additional help in the frontcourt.

KB21
04-09-2021, 04:22 PM
We all know how great Coach Vic was, he has the resume to prove it and I miss him being our coach.. But he chose to go to Texas, and I am ok with that. Nikki came in and had a bad season with his recruits, just like JoMo did and Leach did. I still supported them both just like I will Nikki. She is definitely bringing in talented players so give her a FAIR shake. If she doesn't show any improvement anytime soon then get another coach! People got over Mike Leach's bad season really fast

Mike Leach has 20 years of success as a head coach under his belt that buys him some benefit of the doubt. Plus, he took over a program whose culture had rotted after two years of Joe Moorhead's coaching. I see the exact same issues with the women's program that I saw with the football program under Joe Moorhead. There is a lack of discipline, preparation, and accountability that is clearly on the coach who wanted to be buddies with the players when she got here instead of being their coach. Her answer to the problems is to essentially give up control over the program to Arnett and Sherry Hayes. I mean, I still think Rickea is eventually going to leave via the portal, and she is the best, most talented player we have on the roster even with the addition of Anastasia and Jerkalia.

jdelta02
04-09-2021, 04:41 PM
Anastasia Hayes (ESPN #7 overall class 2017, McDonald's All-American)

Ari Gold
04-09-2021, 04:41 PM
You rarely see a coach come in and take over a very successful program and it picks off exactly where it was left. Yes it happens but not always right away. Again, give her a fair chance, if the results remain the same, she has to go. If any other program was bringing this talent in most fan bases would be pretty happy. Yes we lost alot with transfers, but she is bringing in an entire roster of ESPN top 100 girls who are all ranked 4 and 5 stars and some with proven NCAA experience to include a player who was 2nd in the nation in scoring at the collegiate level with 26.5 ppg.. regardless of how u feel, its something to have some excitement about. I'm rooting for her and the players.

Flip side you hardly ever if ever see a coach come in , with 3 or 4 returning starters , 2 of which were ALL SEC And be this bad and at times not even competitive. Also in women’s hoops it is damn near impossible for this to happen..

I won’t hold my breath either way becaus again it’s womens hoops , but it’s just embarrassing

Ari Gold
04-09-2021, 04:44 PM
Mike Leach has 20 years of success as a head coach under his belt that buys him some benefit of the doubt. Plus, he took over a program whose culture had rotted after two years of Joe Moorhead's coaching. I see the exact same issues with the women's program that I saw with the football program under Joe Moorhead. There is a lack of discipline, preparation, and accountability that is clearly on the coach who wanted to be buddies with the players when she got here instead of being their coach. Her answer to the problems is to essentially give up control over the program to Arnett and Sherry Hayes. I mean, I still think Rickea is eventually going to leave via the portal, and she is the best, most talented player we have on the roster even with the addition of Anastasia and Jerkalia.


You can’t even have college football and women’s hoops in the same sentence. The same category. Hell even on the same planet..
there is ZERO comparison of the 2.

NCMSTFAN
04-09-2021, 05:55 PM
Mike Leach has 20 years of success as a head coach under his belt that buys him some benefit of the doubt. Plus, he took over a program whose culture had rotted after two years of Joe Moorhead's coaching. I see the exact same issues with the women's program that I saw with the football program under Joe Moorhead. There is a lack of discipline, preparation, and accountability that is clearly on the coach who wanted to be buddies with the players when she got here instead of being their coach. Her answer to the problems is to essentially give up control over the program to Arnett and Sherry Hayes. I mean, I still think Rickea is eventually going to leave via the portal, and she is the best, most talented player we have on the roster even with the addition of Anastasia and Jerkalia.

20 years of coaching experience doesn't buy you anything in the SEC, we both know it is a what have you done for me lately league. There is no point continuing to go back and forth about this. Either you support her and the girls or you don't. I choose to support. If she has a similar year this coming season or beyond then she has to go. But she just brought in some firepower to run the way she wants so I will give her a chance before writing her off. I hope Rickea stays also and I haven't heard anything about her leaving but if she leaves we look pretty good right now with the 3 Hayes sisters, Jerkalia, Jones, Myah and our incoming Freshman. We do need another big to go along with Carter and Kohl

NCMSTFAN
04-09-2021, 06:01 PM
You can’t even have college football and women’s hoops in the same sentence. The same category. Hell even on the same planet..
there is ZERO comparison of the 2.
From a national point of view in terms of popularity, your correct. But from a competitive view it's all the same.. National powers run it yearly in both sports, good coaching and top recruits win championships. Women's basketball has Uconn, Baylor, Stanford, South Carolina and obviously more who are there in the thick of things yearly. College football has Bama, OSU, LSU, Oklahoma, Clemson etc. Obviously Women's basketball doesn't get National attention but the base is all the same. And it all starts with recruiting which Coach McCray is doing pretty good at right now.. the jury is still out on the coaching

Ari Gold
04-09-2021, 06:36 PM
From a national point of view in terms of popularity, your correct. But from a competitive view it's all the same.. National powers run it yearly in both sports, good coaching and top recruits win championships. Women's basketball has Uconn, Baylor, Stanford, South Carolina and obviously more who are there in the thick of things yearly. College football has Bama, OSU, LSU, Oklahoma, Clemson etc. Obviously Women's basketball doesn't get National attention but the base is all the same. And it all starts with recruiting which Coach McCray is doing pretty good at right now.. the jury is still out on the coaching

College football if different from every sport in college,, and it’s not close.. it’s just not even on the same planet as women’s hoops.

Cowbell
04-09-2021, 07:38 PM
Not only can Coach McCray-Penson turn things around next season, but she can litterally make a national championship run with a rotation of ultra talented guards. Possibly completely flip the script on narrative. Though, the team could defintely use some additional help in the frontcourt.

What are you drinking

NCMSTFAN
04-09-2021, 07:43 PM
College football if different from every sport in college,, and it’s not close.. it’s just not even on the same planet as women’s hoops.
You said that already but in what terms are you talking about?? We all know College football is leaps and bounds ahead of Women's basketball in terms of popularity and revenue. So what are you comparing? At the end of the day college sports come down to recruiting #1, and coaching #2. Coach McCray is doing pretty good in the recruiting department. We are waiting to see about her coaching...I'm not sure what the point is you are trying to make.