SEC only hitting stats

[Coach34]

Debrule 3/20...3 K's 1 BB
Rowdy 5/22...2 K's...4 BB's
Allen 7/24...3 K's...0 BB
James 6/24..4 K's 1 BB
Hancock 3/18...2 K's 5 BB's
Tanner 6/23..6 K's 3 BB's
Hatcher 4/23...4 K's 0 BB's
Cumbust 4/6...1 K 0 BB's
Forsythe 4/20...9 K's 1 BB
Skinner 4/14...2 K's 3 BB's
Leggett 2/6...3 K's 0 BB

39K's to 18 BB's- thats awful

[Rex54]

K/BB rates are very normal if you drop Forsythe.

[Bulldog1]

It's past time to shake up the lineup.
Let Hancock, Allen, James, and Tanner be top 4.
Drop Rowdey down, Cumbest needs to be starting in lf.

Is Forsythe our only option at ss?

[KOdawg1]

It's past time to shake up the lineup.
Let Hancock, Allen, James, and Tanner be top 4.
Drop Rowdey down, Cumbest needs to be starting in lf.

Is Forsythe our only option at ss?

I think Leggett could probably play SS, but Forsythe is a level up defensively. We're just going to have to swallow our lumps with him. It'll be worth it in a year or two I hope.

[maroonmania]

It's past time to shake up the lineup.
Let Hancock, Allen, James, and Tanner be top 4.
Drop Rowdey down, Cumbest needs to be starting in lf.

Is Forsythe our only option at ss?

We knew when we started playing him that we were trading offense for better defense.

[Coach34]

Yeah- got to take the lumps with Forsythe. He will be good in time- but short term he will struggle at the plate.

[Pinto]

Does Forsythe even have a baseball IQ? Somehow he got on base and was on 1st with 2 outs. Then someone smoked a liner to center and he checked up on it instead of being off at the bat and being on 3rd. Next batter hit a infield hit chopper and he moved to 3rd. If he had ran the bases correctly he would have scored. It would have been 1-0 us. He just looked like the moment was too big all game.

[Really Clark?]

Strikeouts are no where close to our problem. Tied with Vandy with the lowest in the league in SEC games. It?s weak contact that?s the problem. Period. We are below average in walks which makes us below average in OBP and we lead the league in GDP. Weak contact from hitting bad pitches or flat out missing a pitch we have to consistently drive better.

[Bulldog1]

No doubt he is very good at ss - we've got to find some offense somewhere. One thing is for sure, got to get Dubrule and Rowdey out of the 1/2 hole.

[Todd4State]

It's past time to shake up the lineup.
Let Hancock, Allen, James, and Tanner be top 4.
Drop Rowdey down, Cumbest needs to be starting in lf.

Is Forsythe our only option at ss?

Remember when Kam James played there? So yeah. He's our only option.

[Bulldog1]

With the team we have, we need to play some Cohen ball...

[Todd4State]

No doubt he is very good at ss - we've got to find some offense somewhere. One thing is for sure, got to get Dubrule and Rowdey out of the 1/2 hole.

No doubt. I cringed when I saw the lineup when it came out. At least we know Skinner will be leading off when he gets back. TA or Hancock need to be 2/3 in some order. James or Tanner after that.

[Todd4State]

With the team we have, we need to play some Cohen ball...

Absolutely.

[Coach34]

Strikeouts are no where close to our problem. Tied with Vandy with the lowest in the league in SEC games. It?s weak contact that?s the problem. Period. We are below average in walks which makes us below average in OBP and we lead the league in GDP. Weak contact from hitting bad pitches or flat out missing a pitch we have to consistently drive better.

Agree. We swing at the 1st pitch way too much. We are in the bottom of the SEC in BB's. We lead the SEC in weak contact. We need to work counts more

[Homedawg]

It's past time to shake up the lineup.
Let Hancock, Allen, James, and Tanner be top 4.
Drop Rowdey down, Cumbest needs to be starting in lf.

Is Forsythe our only option at ss?
Yes. They knew he would have a hard time hitting

[Really Clark?]

Agree. We swing at the 1st pitch way too much. We are in the bottom of the SEC in BB's. We lead the SEC in weak contact. We need to work counts more

We do, which is also keeping the opposing starter in the game longer by keeping their pitch count down.

[Coldsleeve Jr.]

Cumbust

[Commercecomet24]

I think Leggett could probably play SS, but Forsythe is a level up defensively. We're just going to have to swallow our lumps with him. It'll be worth it in a year or two I hope.

Yeah we have to leave Forsythe alone, he's a plus defender at a defensive position. If he can just hit .250 the glove is worth it. He does need to cutdown on the k's though.

[confucius say]

We offer at a bunch of offspeed crap down. That's where most of your weak ground balls are coming from.

[FISHDAWG]

I think Leggett could probably play SS, but Forsythe is a level up defensively. We're just going to have to swallow our lumps with him. It'll be worth it in a year or two I hope.

I've watched Legget play since little league (he's my cousin) ... he could play shortstop

[Bulldog1]

Hatcher is hitting .129 in sec play now, Dubrule is hitting .154

And Forsythe's fielding % is .909 - Still better than Kam James though: .867

[TNDawg35]

I've watched Legget play since little league (he's my cousin) ... he could play shortstop

Well then will you please tell him his and Tanners shorts look dumb as hell...

[basedog]

Yeah we have to leave Forsythe alone, he's a plus defender at a defensive position. If he can just hit .250 the glove is worth it. He does need to cutdown on the k's though.

Dude is improving, don't understand some thinking he should be replaced, he is going to be really good moving forward. he needs to get stronger and he will. Dubrule and Hatcher are big disappointments.

[Coach34]

Playing Hatcher is just comical at this point

[trob115]

Hatcher wouldn't start at Mizzo. This is beyond embarrassing.

[Mjoelner34]

Playing Hatcher is just comical at this point

He is improving. He hit a fly ball to the outfield last night.**

[Bulldog1]

Hatcher needs to sit, but I will be shocked if Lemonis pulls him.

Like I said the other night, I would put Allen back at 1st and Cumbest in RF...

[Cooterpoot]

Look, our talent level is very mediocre (other than pitching) by SEC and our standards. It is what it is. But Hatcher has to sit. Dubrule too probably. Give someone else a shot while letting them take a break. Lemonis is damn hard-headed.

[Cowbell]

Landon Jordan is starting to not look like the bad guy, I will say that...

[Saltydog]

I'd put Skinner in right, move TA to 1st (bench Hatcher) and start Cumbest in left. Oh yeah, I'd sit Dubrules ass and put in somebody, anybody

[Coach34]

Hatcher- 4/35 now in SEC play 8 K's and no walks. No walks in 9 games

[BeardoMSU]

Hatcher- 4/35 now in SEC play 8 K's and no walks. No walks in 9 games

Yikes.

[Ari Gold]

Landon Jordan is starting to not look like the bad guy, I will say that...

How so...??

If he had not QUIT , he is prob starting at 3rd and James moved to 2nd

[Rex54]

Everyone whining to bench Rowdey looks dumb now. Same will be the case with Hatcher. He's about to bust out, He's had a lot of hard hit balls finding gloves lately, I expect him to hit .300 over the next couple weeks

[HoopsDawg]

Everyone whining to bench Rowdey looks dumb now. Same will be the case with Hatcher. He's about to bust out, He's had a lot of hard hit balls finding gloves lately, I expect him to hit .300 over the next couple weeks

He did have the 2nd hardest hit ball of the game today. I wish he could slightly alter his path to hit more balls in the air.

The issue is we don't have anyone on the bench ready to play. It's not like Tommy Raffo is sitting on the pine. That's why I keep hoping that Kellum Clark is getting live AB's in the midweek.

[HoopsDawg]

Look, our talent level is very mediocre (other than pitching) by SEC and our standards. It is what it is. But Hatcher has to sit. Dubrule too probably. Give someone else a shot while letting them take a break. Lemonis is damn hard-headed.

Hard to call Lemonis hard headed when he has put Skinner in the lineup for McGowan and Cumbest. He's taken a first round talent in Cerantola out of the rotation, he's not using Price as a closer anymore, he benched Dubrule today, he moved Kam James to 3B and inserted a Freshman at SS, he moved Rowdey out of the 1 hole, and he's now letting Logan Tanner catch all 3 games on an SEC weekend. Not what I would call hard headed.

[basedog]

Hard to call Lemonis hard headed when he has put Skinner in the lineup for McGowan and Cumbest. He's taken a first round talent in Cerantola out of the rotation, he's not using Price as a closer anymore, he benched Dubrule today, he moved Kam James to 3B and inserted a Freshman at SS, he moved Rowdey out of the 1 hole, and he's now letting Logan Tanner catch all 3 games on an SEC weekend. Not what I would call hard headed.

I agree! He also explained why he didn’t pitch Sims today. Made since plus it was a good decision because it worked. LOL

[Rex54]

Lemonis is legit

[Coach34]

He did have the 2nd hardest hit ball of the game today. I wish he could slightly alter his path to hit more balls in the air.

The issue is we don't have anyone on the bench ready to play. It's not like Tommy Raffo is sitting on the pine. That's why I keep hoping that Kellum Clark is getting live AB's in the midweek.

Anybody on our bench can go 4/35 over 3 SEC weekends. Stop with the excuses.

[msstate7]

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[HoopsDawg]

Anybody on our bench can go 4/35 over 3 SEC weekends. Stop with the excuses.

LOL, didn't make excuses. Stated facts. Hatcher has been really bad. He knows it. Lemonis knows it. But if we are going to do anything in the postseason, Hatcher has to get going.

[Coach34]

Hatcher is an albatross and needs to be replaced 2 weeks ago.

[HoopsDawg]

Hatcher is an albatross and needs to be replaced 2 weeks ago.

Replaced by who?

[Rex54]

There will be a lot of crow to be eaten regarding Josh Hatcher. I've already served up the Rowdey Crow to some of you kneejerks.

[Coach34]

U didn’t serve anything to me on Rowdey. He’s a career .300 hitter and I’ve never said anything about replacing him. Hatcher is a completely story

[Coach34]

Replaced by who?

Anybody. Cerantola could play 1st and go 4/35 at the plate with no walks.

[Bulldog1]

Cumbest is 4/7 in SEC play by the way...

[Homedawg]

Cumbest is 4/7 in SEC play by the way...

With 2 swinging bunts and 2 big hop ground balls as hits.. Js

[Rex54]

With 2 swinging bunts and 2 big hop ground balls as hits.. Js

People don't watch the games, just look at the box score.

[Bulldog1]

Hatcher is now 1 for his last 19 abs...

[Cowbell]

With 2 swinging bunts and 2 big hop ground balls as hits.. Js
It doesn't matter. They are SEC hits.

[Cowbell]

People don't watch the games, just look at the box score.
You are like the master at excuses. I'm starting to think you are a woman.

[Commercecomet24]

With 2 swinging bunts and 2 big hop ground balls as hits.. Js

Hatcher average exit velo tonight 55 mph

[Cooterpoot]

I could go play 1B and be as effective as Hatcher. Put any damn body over there. Like I said, Lemonis is hard-headed and we don't have hitting talent. But for goodness sake, try anyone.

[Coach34]

Cumbust is hitting .396 right now. Just saying.

[Ari Gold]

I know Clark has been dealing with the health issue and it has taken its toll on him, I’m sure just as much mentally as physically.
But if the kid is healthy enough to play a midweek game , let’s run him out there.

He probably wouldn’t even be here If the draft hadn’t been but 5 rounds last year..

He can’t be any worse..

[MetEdDawg]

I know Clark has been dealing with the health issue and it has taken its toll on him, I’m sure just as much mentally as physically.
But if the kid is healthy enough to play a midweek game , let’s run him out there.

He probably wouldn’t even be here If the draft hadn’t been but 5 rounds last year..

He can’t be any worse..

If it were me, I would start Clark today at 1B and on Sunday let Tanner Allen play 1B and give either Kyte or Cumbest a shot in RF. I know Kyte's success has come against poor competition but I would run him or Cumbest out there.

Hatcher needs multiple days off. When you are doing this poorly, one day doesn't fix much. You need multiple days of focusing only on your swing to correct yourself. He doesn't need a message sent. He's past that right now with his .196 average. He needs help making better contact and seeing the ball better. That's not a one day fix. That's a much longer process. Kid needs a break from the game part of baseball.

[Tbonewannabe]

Hatcher average exit velo tonight 55 mph

Sounds like he just isn't seeing the ball and is just guessing.

[KOdawg1]

An update:

Hatcher: .114, 5 hits, 44 ABs, 10 Ks, 0 BBs

Hancock: .206, 7 hits, 34 ABs, 4 Ks, 7 BBs

Lo Tan: .179, 7 hits, 39 ABs, 12 Ks, 7 BBs

Skinner: .214, 6 hits, 28 ABs, 6 Ks, 4 BBs

Forsythe: .219, 7 hits, 32 ABs, 14 Ks, 1 BB

Over half of our lineup sux rn

[Really Clark?]

An update:

Hatcher: .114, 5 hits, 44 ABs, 10 Ks, 0 BBs

Hancock: .206, 7 hits, 34 ABs, 4 Ks, 7 BBs

Lo Tan: .179, 7 hits, 39 ABs, 12 Ks, 7 BBs

Skinner: .214, 6 hits, 28 ABs, 6 Ks, 4 BBs

Forsythe: .219, 7 hits, 32 ABs, 14 Ks, 1 BB

Over half of our lineup sux rn

Hancock is an odd stat right now though. His average is low but everything else is positive. Has the best QAB of anyone on the team, leads team in SAC Flies both all games and SEC play, tied for lead in RBI’s...all things considered the expectation is his average makes a turn upward.

[confucius say]

Rowdey is on a tear. His overall average is up to .294 now.

Facing a veteran lefty today in Owen. He started against us in Omaha in 2019. Good opportunity to get cumbest's right handed bat in the lineup today. Skinner does so many things well though, even if he is hitting only .250, so i doubt we play cumbest in left.

[R2Dawg]

R.Jordan is hot right now.

[Rex54]

Hancock is an odd stat right now though. His average is low but everything else is positive. Has the best QAB of anyone on the team, leads team in SAC Flies both all games and SEC play, tied for lead in RBI’s...all things considered the expectation is his average makes a turn upward.

I'm not worried about Hancock either.

[AlSwearengen]

What I am noticing is that Hatcher, for the most part is making pretty solid contact but is swinging at low pitches, resulting in ground balls which aren?t finding any holes. He needs to manage the low pitches better, either not swing at them if they are a ball or figure out how to lift them a little if they are a strike. Last year, early in the season, TA had a problem with swinging at high pitches and popping them up. Once he started laying off the high pitch, his average sky rocketed. Hatcher seems to have the opposite problem.

The team as a whole doesn?t really hit opposite field very much. I remember Hancock hitting opposite field constantly last year and the year before. He doesn?t seem to do that at all this year. That is why we see so many weak ass ground balls off the ends of bats. I?m ready for the hitting coach to get this straightened out ricky tick.

[confucius say]

Hatch will get going when he starts having an oppo approach. He's way too pull side with everything right now

[Commercecomet24]

Hatch will get going when he starts having an oppo approach. He's way too pull side with everything right now

Yeah he's rolling over everything. Tons of weak ground balls to pull side. We need him to get it figured out but this has been going on awhile.

[Bulldog1]

Hatcher now .197 on the year- and only 7 walks... Yet for some reason he's still out there every game.

[Really Clark?]

Hatcher now .197 on the year- and only 7 walks... Yet for some reason he's still out there every game.

.136 in SEC only games. Next to last in the league