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cheewgumm
03-23-2021, 01:47 PM
Wouldn?t it make sense for our women?s BB team to focus on recruiting transgender athletes?

Honestly, this is the answer to the women?s BB team issues.

MoreCowbell
03-23-2021, 03:03 PM
Wouldn?t it make sense for our women?s BB team to focus on recruiting transgender athletes?

Honestly, this is the answer to the women?s BB team issues.

Even if you aren?t meaning to be this is pretty funny

parabrave
03-23-2021, 03:15 PM
It isn't the players!!!

Rex54
03-23-2021, 03:33 PM
It's sad how obvious extreme mental illness is promoted and celebrated. So many people are motivated by status signaling though and will gladly parrot what their masters say is the "approved opinions".

The GOP is a useless party, I suggest all still putting any hope in it to stop immediately.

tireddawg
03-23-2021, 04:15 PM
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Maverick91
03-23-2021, 04:18 PM
There is way more than meets the eye with her situation. From my understanding she believes to protect woman's sports she has to get more states on board. If not, the NCAA will come down and crush her progress and keep all of South Dakoda out of the NCAA. She sent the legislation back with amendments, and she stated that what was being reported about the situation was straight lies.

I obviously don't know where you folks lean politically. But, it is a very interesting situation.

I just hate it for sports, the moment politics dipped its toes into sports was not a good day.

Rex54
03-23-2021, 04:25 PM
I just hate it for sports, the moment politics dipped its toes into sports was not a good day.

Everything is politics and always has been. Society is politics. The dummies on the right that think otherwise should now understand why they always lose on every issue.

thf24
03-23-2021, 04:32 PM
I can't say I'm fully on board with the precedent being set at the moment, but I highly doubt this invasion of transgender athletes in women's sports that some of you have been led to believe in actually comes to pass.

Also interesting how so many didn't give half a damn about women's sports until their political demagogues told them to.

State82
03-23-2021, 04:33 PM
There is way more than meets the eye with her situation.

If there is way more than meets the eye with her then I really need to see it! You know what I am sayin?

Ari Gold
03-23-2021, 05:22 PM
I can't say I'm fully on board with the precedent being set at the moment, but I highly doubt this invasion of transgender athletes in women's sports that some of you have been led to believe in actually comes to pass.

Also interesting how so many didn't give half a damn about women's sports until their political demagogues told them to.

If it’s just ONE it’s too many no matter What the sport.. it’s got nothing to do with Politics ..

BuckyIsAB****
03-23-2021, 05:34 PM
What happened?

R2Dawg
03-23-2021, 06:09 PM
What happened?

She opened the door in SD for men to compete in women's sports. They had a bill and she changed it in a political move. She caved to the pressure from the left that threatened to take NCAA sports and some business from SD. She changed the wording from "sex at birth" to sex on birth certificate so it is easy to just pay a fee and some paperwork and a male is in.

Disappointed in CN. I thought she was grounded but she is weak when the pressure comes. There are not many with a backbone in leadership, only a few. Leadership is not doing things that are easy but many times things that are hard. Things that are right and those that are easy are rarely the same thing.

We got too many left nuts (not CN) in control of our world. Bill Gates now wants to send chalk dust in the atmosphere to block the sun to save the earth from global warming. All he would do is create a nuclear winter and kill the world. Why do we let people operate out of their knowledge domain?

R2Dawg
03-23-2021, 06:11 PM
If it’s just ONE it’s too many no matter What the sport.. it’s got nothing to do with Politics ..

True. We now have a world where most don't understand absolute truth. Wrong is wrong no matter the number.

RocketDawg
03-23-2021, 06:24 PM
She opened the door in SD for men to compete in women's sports. They had a bill and she changed it in a political move. She caved to the pressure from the left that threatened to take NCAA sports and some business from SD. She changed the wording from "sex at birth" to sex on birth certificate so it is easy to just pay a fee and some paperwork and a male is in.

Disappointed in CN. I thought she was grounded but she is weak when the pressure comes. There are not many with a backbone in leadership, only a few. Leadership is not doing things that are easy but many times things that are hard. Things that are right and those that are easy are rarely the same thing.

We got too many left nuts (not CN) in control of our world. Bill Gates now wants to send chalk dust in the atmosphere to block the sun to save the earth from global warming. All he would do is create a nuclear winter and kill the world. Why do we let people operate out of their knowledge domain?

Back in the 1970s, a colder than normal period in the US and maybe worldwide, there was a move afoot to deposit black coal dust on the polar ice to speed up melting. Global cooling was the fear then: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_cooling

Jacksondevildog
03-23-2021, 06:26 PM
We went from ?Praise the LORD and Go Dawgs? to twerking and BLM. The program went downward. You can decide the rest.

Todd4State
03-23-2021, 06:26 PM
Wouldn?t it make sense for our women?s BB team to focus on recruiting transgender athletes?

Honestly, this is the answer to the women?s BB team issues.


Even if you aren?t meaning to be this is pretty funny

Yeah. That would be hilarious watching our mostly conservative women's fan base cheer them on.

Since it's kind of shady I'm about 99% sure Ole Miss will beat us to this.

R2Dawg
03-23-2021, 06:52 PM
We went from ?Praise the LORD and Go Dawgs? to twerking and BLM. The program went downward. You can decide the rest.

Yeah that pretty much sums up part of situation.

Quaoarsking
03-23-2021, 06:52 PM
We went from ?Praise the LORD and Go Dawgs? to twerking and BLM. The program went downward. You can decide the rest.

Are you saying our players didn't support Black Lives Matter during the Schaefer Era? How could you even possibly think that? Have you forgotten about all the meltdowns over Jordan Danberry's Twitter?

somebodyshotmypaw
03-23-2021, 06:56 PM
It isn't the players!!!

It might be. If we recruit some guys that would normally play men’s basketball in junior college, it would probably trump the coaching.

Percho
03-23-2021, 06:57 PM
Does Bruce Jenner have any elig_ Oh never mind.

Saltydog
03-23-2021, 07:01 PM
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cheewgumm
03-23-2021, 07:06 PM
Ok put your wacko politics to the side.

If this is a thing and it?s going r be celebrated, etc... why are we not taking advantage?

I?m serious.

Are there enough transgender athletes to make this work?

If there are, this should be done in all women?s sports.

You play by the rules as they are.

Saltydog
03-23-2021, 07:17 PM
Ah, no worries. NMcP could recruit the greatest she-man to ever step on a court and screw it up......

Coach34
03-23-2021, 07:17 PM
Ok put your wacko politics to the side.

If this is a thing and it?s going r be celebrated, etc... why are we not taking advantage?

I?m serious.

Are there enough transgender athletes to make this work?

If there are, this should be done in all women?s sports.

You play by the rules as they are.

Dano stirring the pot

Saltydog
03-23-2021, 07:22 PM
If we're going down this road we should just completely eliminate men's and women's sports and just have one team for each school. If you're good enough to make the team, so be it. If you're not, tough shit. Let's just eliminate gender all the way around.

R2Dawg
03-23-2021, 07:25 PM
Ok put your wacko politics to the side.

If this is a thing and it?s going r be celebrated, etc... why are we not taking advantage?

I?m serious.

Are there enough transgender athletes to make this work?

If there are, this should be done in all women?s sports.

You play by the rules as they are.

Has nothing to do with politics. About morality and right and wrong. Simple as that. Yes many on left have made a political football out of it. In it's most simple form, it is about denying the Creator His design and I'll do it Burger King style - have it your way.

Aside from the above and to your question, would you really feel proud winning a women's sport knowing you played with men? Seriously?

Here is the simple science for those that claim science but believe otherwise. If you are born with a Y chromosome, you are a male. Every cell in your body has it and you can't change it with surgery or drugs. End of science discussion. It was decided at birth.

As far as your rules, just because something is legal doesn't make it right. Laws change but absolute laws of nature do not change with man's opinion.

cheewgumm
03-23-2021, 07:29 PM
Our feelings on the matter are irrelevant.(obviously) I?d rather Ole Miss not cheat so bad as that is ?morally wrong?, I suppose.

You play the hand that is dealt. Let?s play it to WIN!

I know what Saban would do.

Quaoarsking
03-23-2021, 07:56 PM
Here is the simple science for those that claim science but believe otherwise. If you are born with a Y chromosome, you are a male. Every cell in your body has it and you can't change it with surgery or drugs. End of science discussion. It was decided at birth.

Except when that's not true:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XX_male_syndrome
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XY_gonadal_dysgenesis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Androgen_insensitivity_syndrome

Not to mention:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersex

Science and genetics are weird \_(ツ)_/

DownwardDawg
03-23-2021, 08:17 PM
She opened the door in SD for men to compete in women's sports. They had a bill and she changed it in a political move. She caved to the pressure from the left that threatened to take NCAA sports and some business from SD. She changed the wording from "sex at birth" to sex on birth certificate so it is easy to just pay a fee and some paperwork and a male is in.

Disappointed in CN. I thought she was grounded but she is weak when the pressure comes. There are not many with a backbone in leadership, only a few. Leadership is not doing things that are easy but many times things that are hard. Things that are right and those that are easy are rarely the same thing.

We got too many left nuts (not CN) in control of our world. Bill Gates now wants to send chalk dust in the atmosphere to block the sun to save the earth from global warming. All he would do is create a nuclear winter and kill the world. Why do we let people operate out of their knowledge domain?

I used to get a kick out of the daily updates in the media from Bill Gates about the virus and the vaccines. I mean....WTF???? Who gives 2 shits what Bill thinks about the pandemic and the vaccine? This is where we've gotten to but how did this happen???

cheewgumm
03-23-2021, 08:21 PM
Would we win if we did this?
Hell yes and how.

Is it legal?
Not only that it is encouraged.

Would we get blowback from the
Media?
Quite the opposite , we?d be celebrated.

I?m having a hard time finding the downside.

R2Dawg
03-23-2021, 08:34 PM
Our feelings on the matter are irrelevant.(obviously) I?d rather Ole Miss not cheat so bad as that is ?morally wrong?, I suppose.

You play the hand that is dealt. Let?s play it to WIN!

I know what Saban would do.

Morally wrong - not up for debate, the verdict has been on that since the beginning.

What Saban would do, that is not the standard for moral correctness. We can compare ourselves to any other person and find someone worse, doesn't make us moral or right. Wrong standard here. Oh, you talking about winning well maybe. Doing whatever it takes to win while being immoral and doing wrong. What is the point at that point?

R2Dawg
03-23-2021, 08:35 PM
I used to get a kick out of the daily updates in the media from Bill Gates about the virus and the vaccines. I mean....WTF???? Who gives 2 shits what Bill thinks about the pandemic and the vaccine? This is where we've gotten to but how did this happen???

I think Hollywood and social media has pushed us to this. The only people that know anything are those popular and seen which is totally not true.

R2Dawg
03-23-2021, 08:38 PM
Except when that's not true:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XX_male_syndrome
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XY_gonadal_dysgenesis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Androgen_insensitivity_syndrome

Not to mention:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersex

Science and genetics are weird \_(ツ)_/

Yes it is true. Those are called birth defects which are not the norm. What I stated is fact, science. I didn't create it, just what 1000s of years of study by man has revealed. Without male and female the human race ceases to exist. Fact and science again. Case closed. You can't beat the truth, sorry.

R2Dawg
03-23-2021, 08:39 PM
Would we win if we did this?
Hell yes and how.

Is it legal?
Not only that it is encouraged.

Would we get blowback from the
Media?
Quite the opposite , we?d be celebrated.

I?m having a hard time finding the downside.

If you have no moral compass then yes you do what pleases you no matter who you hurt or step on. Then yes do it. Again, hope I don't do any business deals or partnerships with you.

shoeless joe
03-23-2021, 08:40 PM
Except when that's not true:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XX_male_syndrome
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XY_gonadal_dysgenesis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Androgen_insensitivity_syndrome

Not to mention:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersex

Science and genetics are weird \_(ツ)_/

Science and genetics ARE weird for sure. But you linked 3 genetic disorders that a person is still born with. Those are not examples of people that are or become transgender. I would wager that a vast majority of people that claim to be trans do not fit into any of the 3 genetic disorders you linked.

R2Dawg
03-23-2021, 08:41 PM
If we're going down this road we should just completely eliminate men's and women's sports and just have one team for each school. If you're good enough to make the team, so be it. If you're not, tough shit. Let's just eliminate gender all the way around.

Interesting. I don't think it would be good but that would be fair I guess. Feminist will not have that though. They have all backed themselves into a corner with no way out. Kinda funny. That is what happens when you deny truth. The truth will be set free eventually.

Quaoarsking
03-23-2021, 08:50 PM
Science and genetics ARE weird for sure. But you linked 3 genetic disorders that a person is still born with. Those are not examples of people that are or become transgender. I would wager that a vast majority of people that claim to be trans do not fit into any of the 3 genetic disorders you linked.

I didn't say they did. I am just demonstrating how R2 Dawg's point that Y chromosome = male isn't strictly true.

Jack Lambert
03-23-2021, 08:50 PM
I am considering tucking my penis, duct taping it and winning me a Gold Medal in women's weight lifting. *******

Jack Lambert
03-23-2021, 08:51 PM
Back in the 1970s, a colder than normal period in the US and maybe worldwide, there was a move afoot to deposit black coal dust on the polar ice to speed up melting. Global cooling was the fear then: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_cooling

when the polar shift stops all the ice caps will come back.

R2Dawg
03-23-2021, 09:08 PM
I didn't say they did. I am just demonstrating how R2 Dawg's point that Y chromosome = male isn't strictly true.

Yes it actually is. They very rare events you describe are exceptions and birth defects. The 99.999% of humanity there is male and female. Y chromosome is male. It takes a male and female to reproduce another human being and humanity to continue to exists just like God designed. He said be fruitful and multiply to fill the earth. Anything outside that design will be flawed. Sin entered the world and defects into the perfect design were born. You can find many exceptions and defects in our world after years of degradation.

I don't understand many things but the fundamentals, God has given us to understand. That part is not too complicated. The complicated is reserved for God to understand.

R2Dawg
03-23-2021, 09:10 PM
when the polar shift stops all the ice caps will come back.

Gen 8:22 - As long as the earth endures, seedtime and harvest, cold and heat, summer and winter, day and night will never cease."

Nothing man can do will alter the earth's existence. It will end when it is time.

R2Dawg
03-23-2021, 09:13 PM
I am considering tucking my penis, duct taping it and winning me a Gold Medal in women's weight lifting. *******

Heard this the other day, there are 76 men in high school who can break the world record in womens 200m held by Florence Joiner Kersey.

Men and women are not the same. That is basic science too. Guess someone will find me a woman who beat a man in a sport. That is an exception not the norm on average.

Rex54
03-23-2021, 10:21 PM
I didn't say they did. I am just demonstrating how R2 Dawg's point that Y chromosome = male isn't strictly true.

You say this stuff as if your ideology doesn't condone puberty blockers and chopadickoffme surgeries for minors. For years you poo-poo slippery slopes and once those slopes are gone just continue to poo-poo the next slippery slope. Well the demons are here now and have power in this country. Congrats.

For anyone interested in the big money pushing this garbage upon us, read Scott Howard's book - Transgender Industrial Complex

https://m.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-transgender-industrial-complex-scott-howard/1138336926

Offshore Dawg
03-24-2021, 07:42 AM
Some of you miss the resulting problem. The male has a physical advantage over the female athlete. Example as jack posted earlier about weight lifting no woman would beat him. This gives an unfair advantage to the transgender.

MSUDAWGFAN
03-24-2021, 07:51 AM
Heard this the other day, there are 76 men in high school who can break the world record in womens 200m held by Florence Joiner Kersey.

Men and women are not the same. That is basic science too. Guess someone will find me a woman who beat a man in a sport. That is an exception not the norm on average.

There was noone named Florence Joiner Kersey. You seem to be getting two people's names mixed up. There was Florence Griffith Joyner and Jackie Joyner-Kersee.

I get your point though. Men have significant advantages over women in sports.

Johnson85
03-24-2021, 08:00 AM
I can't say I'm fully on board with the precedent being set at the moment, but I highly doubt this invasion of transgender athletes in women's sports that some of you have been led to believe in actually comes to pass.

Also interesting how so many didn't give half a damn about women's sports until their political demagogues told them to.

There is a big difference between not caring to watch women's sports and not thinking there should be women's sports. I don't really watch any women's sports, but I want girls to have access to them, especially in high school. What's the harm in letting them have their own sports so that they have a legitimate chance to compete for state and national titles?

Johnson85
03-24-2021, 08:08 AM
There is way more than meets the eye with her situation. From my understanding she believes to protect woman's sports she has to get more states on board. If not, the NCAA will come down and crush her progress and keep all of South Dakoda out of the NCAA. She sent the legislation back with amendments, and she stated that what was being reported about the situation was straight lies.

I obviously don't know where you folks lean politically. But, it is a very interesting situation.

I just hate it for sports, the moment politics dipped its toes into sports was not a good day.

There's really not way more than meets the eye. South Dakota is nominally the home of a lot of banks. If you look at your credit card agreements, you are probably agreeing to arbitrate in South Dakota and to be subject to South Dakota courts. There are also supposedly some significant Amazon facilities there although I don't know what they are.

So basically wokesters convinced her that the banks (and maybe Amazon) would decamp from South Dakota and they'd blow a big hole in the budget and her national ambitions would be dashed. I'm not sure banks really would have gone through the expense of relocating, even if there's not much physically to relocate. It's easy for a wokester executive to claim they're going to do that; but they might not want to explain to their board or shareholders that they are spending money to avoid south dakota because they want women sports to be for women. But NOem almost certainly killed her presidential chances here, so she was apparently convinced the people claiming to represent the banks weren't bluffing.

The NCAA stuff I think is barely relevant. South Dakota having to compete against men on other NCAA teams wouldn't usually be an issue. I think that was just another thing the wokester lobbyists demanded.